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Brand new Mate 9 not even switched on...what tips/things to do first and then rooting

Just purchased a brand new Mate 9 from Best Buy in the USA. First Huawei device.
Held the Mate 9, Galaxy 8 and Galaxy 8+ in my hands and didn't like the feel of the Galaxy 8 handsets.
Before I even switch it on, I wanted to ask the regulars here what they suggest are the first things to do beforehand as I want to root it and install TWRP and Magisk.
After reading in the Mate 9 forum there are different posts about rooting, patching and other things (e.g. people bricking their device) in regards to tweaking this device, so I wanted to know for sure what the correct procedure is to root, install TWRP and Magisk.
I have watched the two videos shown here for tips so anything else that is helpful would be appreciated.

I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Governa said:
I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Gotta agree with this. I've had mine for almost two months and it's so good I've never felt the need to root. But I'd say do lots of reading around first and get a feel for the stock is in the mean time.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I don't want to set up the phone and then find I have to do a factory-reset when I can get it all done in one go.
I really hate all the ads (using AdAway on current Nexus 6) and like the ability to restrict apps usage e.g. stop location or mobile identification, so use LBE, thus the reason wanting to root and install TWRP. Having image backups has been amazingly helpful over the years.
and now that Magisk is doing an amazing job, I can have all the rooted tweaks and still have Android Pay working.

Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no

5[Strogino] said:
Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no
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Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.

IconBoy said:
Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.
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No.
I told that if you want to customize system (Some functions in TB and Adaway do it), so you must have root and additionally turn dm-verity off.
Just root = simple functional.
P.s. One of Adaway can work without root

I have an ad blocker and I'm not rooted.
Search xda for netpatch firewall. Working for me here.
Only ads it doesn't block for me is YouTube but I can live with that

Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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I don't think Magisk works on the Mate 9.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/install-magisk-huawei-mate-9-t3540310

With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.

IconBoy said:
With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.
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Systemless root works fine but you have to flash the stock recovery each time you want to OTA.
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Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).

IconBoy said:
Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).
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Yeah, if you root you won't be able to use Android Pay or anything that calls SafetyNet. Actually, it won't work either if you unlock bootloader.

I'll chime in here too
I've rooted and modded every phone I have had in my life, (more than 20 years) and this is the first phone I have had NO DESIRE at all to root..
Like the others here have said, this phone is fantastic stock, and I cant see ever wanting to root it

Another one to add. This is the first android phone i have no desire to root. Love it as it is. Really great.

are we all getting old that's why we don't wanna root anymore for cheats/sixaxis, etc...? this is also my first android phone (mate 9 pro) that i didn't root.

well, yeah, we are all getting old, but I dont think thats why we dont want to root this thing; I think that it already does most of the things as stock that we usually root a phone to get..
Mate 9 pro here too, and its truly an awesum phone...too bad its not "officially" sold in the USA, as it would be super popular..

Tuffcheez said:
Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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Same here and Happy....
+ root M9 is really challenging depending on your firmware

Hide root to app on Pure Nexus (Nougat 7.1.2)

I have an app on my phone (Airwatch), that is required in order to receive my "work email." Well, in order for that to work, i need to basically hide my root access to that app. Doing so will make the app thinks the device is not compromised, and allow the authorization to complete.
I've researched quite of view sites and videos, but all seem be for older android versions or not for SuperSU.
Anyone had any luck hiding root to an app on Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 ?
Thank you!

Try this when naugat was fresh I couldn't get it to work for Android pay but I'm seeing more success on the forum now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ts/5llqrc/root_help_magisk_and_phh_superuser/
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gjkrisa said:
Try this when naugat was fresh I couldn't get it to work for Android pay but I'm seeing more success on the forum now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ts/5llqrc/root_help_magisk_and_phh_superuser/
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That's a doozy of a thread. Looks like i have a lot of reading to do.
I sure hope something works. I sold my old phone and bought this Nexus 6P in order to root (for free tethering) and add a custom rom. I absolutely need my work email, so i hope i can figure something out without going to back to a stock phone.

You can use Google's tether for free without root
Oops guess not that was a long time ago when I needed that guess you did need root
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Guess it depends on the carrier for tethering. I have the pain of AT&T.

JTOUPS1214 said:
I have an app on my phone (Airwatch), that is required in order to receive my "work email." Well, in order for that to work, i need to basically hide my root access to that app. Doing so will make the app thinks the device is not compromised, and allow the authorization to complete.
I've researched quite of view sites and videos, but all seem be for older android versions or not for SuperSU.
Anyone had any luck hiding root to an app on Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 ?
Thank you!
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I use Nine and use the software base security when setting up my work email. No issue with root.
As for hiding root, I use Magisk but I can't get safetynet to pass. Oh well.

therock3181 said:
I use Nine and use the software base security when setting up my work email. No issue with root.
As for hiding root, I use Magisk but I can't get safetynet to pass. Oh well.
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I know Magisk has the "hide root" feature. But is it worth changing from SuperSU to Magisk? It sounds like I still won't pass safety net since I'm running a custom Rom.

Well, i figured a work-around to avoid installing Airwatch. I just added a shortcut to my office360 email, right on my homescreen. It doesn't notify me of new work emails, but at least i can go check them.
But i still would like to add my Snapchat. Is there anything floating around which allows you to use snapchat with Pure Nexus?

Magisk is the way to root and hide it. -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk
it's supported and on the stock ROM, Android Pay and SafetyNet passes with an unlocked bootloader and root.

SuperSU 2.8.x issues

I didn't see this posted here so FYI: As announced here, there are currently some issues with SuperSU 2.80 and 2.81 that are being worked on and Chainfire has recommended staying with SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-SR3-20170114223742.zip for now while he works the issues out.
If you have already flashed 2.80 or 2.81 and lost root it is safe to flash back to SR3-SuperSU-v2.79 using TWRP (according to the thread and it worked fine for me). Hopefully this prevents some from flashing a few different versions trying to get root working again.

You should switch to Magisk, more features and less issues

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You should switch to Magisk, more features and less issues
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Interesting, I'll look through the treads. Thanks for the infos!

Switching from SuperSU to Magisk is pretty easy. I've done it on my N5, N6 & N10.
BACK UP FIRST. Did I need to say that...?
Unroot with Osmosis' Unsu.zip, make sure that you have the original boot image, which in case of doubt you can extract from your ROM and flash (or your preferred kernel - see edit below), then flash Magisk and install the Magisk Manager apk. Note: you must flash Magisk after the boot/kernel, as it does a similar unpack/tweak/repack/install to SuperSU's processing. If you flash the boot/kernel after, you'll lose root.
Just to add to the fun, there are two versions - the stable v12/Manager 4 and a project v13/Manager 5. My N5 & N6 work fine on v12. I couldn't get v12 to work on my N10, but v13 runs perfectly and all three devices pass Safetynet.
I guess you're here because you like tinkering. Magisk is well worth the fun...
Edit: All three devices are on Pure Nexus. The N10 has the stock kernel, and the others have ElementalX. You should be able to use your preferred kernel.
If you do decide to install Magisk, at first sight you may think you haven't achieved root - until you realise (as I did, duh) that you need to check Settings/Magisk Hide.
Once it's up and running, it works as well as SuperSU.
And why did I switch? Only possibly groundless worries about the change of ownership from Chainfire to a company.

I switched to Magisk because of the analytics fiasco, brought about because of inadequate communication from CCMT. As I noted in a now-deleted post, while the analytics may seem a trivial reason to switch, I believe the gatekeeper to the system root must be incorruptible to remain trustworthy. Had CCMT been honest about the analytics in the first place, I might not have switched.

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You should switch to Magisk, more features and less issues
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I agree. That's what I did. I switched from SuperSu to Magisk and it's working fine on Stock 7.1.1.
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dahawthorne said:
Switching from SuperSU to Magisk is pretty easy.
Once it's up and running, it works as well as SuperSU.
And why did I switch? Only possibly groundless worries about the change of ownership from Chainfire to a company.
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You are so on point.
I switched from SuperSu to Magisk. Was a little hesitant to do so at first because I've been used to using SuperSu and Magisk was unchartered territory for me. But I decided to make the change and I'm glad I did. Magisk is working very well on my Shamu running Stock 7.1.1. I've installed a few modules, including Viper4Android and wow, what a big difference in sound quality (although those front firing speakers are very good in and of themselves, Viper4Android does indeed make a difference).
All in all, I'm happy to have Magisk installed on my Nexus 6.
Btw, I wasn't too thrilled the way the whole thing went down with SuperSu and CCMT. Not really trusting of that app anymore. To each his own, but I'll stick with Magisk.

For some reason Magisk is gone from play store.

mal13 said:
For some reason Magisk is gone from play store.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72508849&postcount=21

I moved to magisk, too, thanks for recommendation. I would not even know about magisk that I have not read about it the last days. It seems a much better alternative, I doubt that I will not go back to SuperSU at this situation with CCMT etc. I'm upset with the last supersu's updates, I see, they do not want to do anything that would solve problem as soon as possible. What's the phh's superuser (I guess it's better to stay on magisk for now.)? I have never tried it. [emoji106] [emoji482] [emoji122]
Forgot, use PureNexus, all stock. [emoji122]
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nemanja066 said:
What's the phh's superuser?
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It's another open source root solution. MagiskSU is based on phh's superuser which in turn is based on koush's superuser.

Guide to root and rom

Hi. is there any basic step by step guides for getting f the latest also extended ROM on my stock oneplus 3t.
Use to do it may y years ago and have lost / forgot everything lol. Also wondered if possible is it able to be rooted and still have access to banking apps using that ROM.
Cheers and apologies in advance

Best guide I've found
https://www.xda-developers.com/unlock-twrp-and-root-the-oneplus-3/
Used this earlier this evening. Simplest guide I've found and works fine for op3t, even though it's written for op3. Also replaced supersu with magisk zip with no difficulties.

Thanks for that. I will look at it tomorrow and attempt it. Did you replace SuperSU during the rooting or after? Read a few ways to do it so just wondered. Is it true that magisk is the way to get android pay and back king aps to still function with root?
Cheers

luke.douthwaite said:
Thanks for that. I will look at it tomorrow and attempt it. Did you replace SuperSU during the rooting or after? Read a few ways to do it so just wondered. Is it true that magisk is the way to get android pay and back king aps to still function with root?
Cheers
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Didn't flash SuperSU at all. Tried installing magisk at the same time as new rom (vertex - recommended!), but ended up having to uninstall then reinstall later. Magisk v12 wasn't passing safetynet for me, but the Beta v13 magisk seems to be doing the trick for now.

Rooting Safetynet and Banking apps

Hi,
Phone: Moto G4 Plus(32GB)
TWRP + Magisk + Xposed + Elementalx : Is this a gud idea?
Is Magisk Hide effective enough to use Banking apps in rooted phones?
Whats safetynet exactly. What does it mean that its pass?
Its expected that Moto G4 Plus will get Oreo Update.
Will the Update be available if device is rooted with Magisk?
Is there a blog that any body has used to do this on their Moto G4 plus and has successfully worked with everything working without any issues?
can you give me the link to that step by step blog/forum which you used?
There were too many blogs/forums about this and there is a reply in each one them saying that their phone is bricked now. Dont want to take that risk.
Does anybody have a perfect/absolutely amazing blog with step by step guide.
This is my primary phone.
Your help will be much appreciated.

eighty9sid said:
TWRP + Magisk + Xposed + Elementalx : Is this a gud idea?
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Not good idea,
Correct order,
TWRP > Custom kernel > Magisk . (Done.)
Don't flash Xposed if you want to use banking apps, it will break safetynet.
Is Magisk Hide effective enough to use Banking apps in rooted phones?
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Personally, i don't use banking apps, but Magisk Hide works fine on other similar apps. So, it will be fine there..
Whats safetynet exactly. What does it mean that its pass?
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Safetynet is term that is related to safety,
If your device passes safetynet then it's secure, banking apps and others will work fine,
But if safetynet fails, then your device is unsecured, banking and related apps may not work..
Its expected that Moto G4 Plus will get Oreo Update.
Will the Update be available if device is rooted with Magisk?
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Even Lenovo/Motorola don't know when OREO will be there for Moto G4 Plus. No other comments
EDIT: If update available in future, you will have to be on stock unmodified ROM, that meams it will fail if magisk or any mod installed..
can you give me the link to that step by step blog/forum which you used?
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Check Guides section for Unlocking and flashing TWRP,
And follow LATEST guide for rooting (older thread/information for rooting can brick your device)
And if you are finding XPOSED + Safetynet Pass + Banking apps, then not possible..

Hello there,
I too am using Moto G4 32GB Dual SIM (XT1643) as a daily driver and I am using a Custom ROM i.e. HAVOC which is an Android 8.1.0 Oreo based ROM. I am using Magisk and TWRP and banking apps like SBI anywhere, Kotak App are working flawlessly. I have not tested Google Tez though.
Even when I had the stock ROM, I rooted it using Magisk and Installed ElementalX Kernel via TWRP. I followed steps from XDA itself, used this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/g4-g4-plus-how-to-install-magisk-pass-t3551896
And as per your question on SafetyNet, it is basically a security check for android developers so that they can verify that the phone is not rigged or rooted or modified. In order for every developer to write their own code to go through various checks to check the integrity of the phone, google provided SafetyNet an easy to implement feature for developers. For more on SafetyNet, visit this website.:
https://www.nowsecure.com/blog/2017/08/03/android-apps-google-safetynet-attestation-api/
And as far as Magisk is concerned, I personally prefer Magisk over any other rooting solution, there are more than one reasons for that. Mainly I that I play Pokemon Go, so Magisk does it's job very well hiding my device status from Pokemon Go.
For difference between Magisk and SuperSu, here is the link:
https://www.xda-developers.com/magisk-vs-supersu/
You can install OTA updates with MAGISK easily, just need to install STOCK kernel and Uninstall Magisk.
I've never used XPOSED on my device, so I cannot help you with that.
And you may know this already, but I will tell you just in case you don't, In order to root your phone or install custom recovery, you need to unlock bootloader and then install custom recovery like TWRP.
To unlock your bootloader, visit:
Motorola - Unlock Bootloader
And Finally, I hope you know what you're doing. Follow the steps carefully and always read comments and user reviews before doing anything at all.
Happy Rooting

Maybe Wait till OREO OTA comes
I asked this because these two links kind of suggested that it was possible.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/5wdb27/does_elementalx_kernel_break_safety_net/
https://www.xda-developers.com/systemless-xposed-android-oreo-available-pass-safetynet/
I may be wrong.
Maybe i should wait for Oreo OTA to come and then decide.

Magisk Xposed is not working, I tried both the version of Xposed but phone doesn't boot at all. So in short, Root with Magisk + banking apps is possible, but root with Magisk+Xposed (even Magisk xposed)+banking apps is not possible as of now.
I tried Sandhook and Yahfa, both are not working.