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Hi, first time android owner here. I recently switched to the CM nightly builds, which I am loving, however I have noticed the audio quality has dropped of dramatically since switching from the standard oppo fw. Now I am streaming my music from google play which AFAIK was unaffected by the dolby sound and the dirac audio features of the oppo ROM. Is this something that should be expected? Its bad enough that Id rather not listen to music at all. Also is there a possibility of porting the audio features of the standard Oppo ROM to the current CM builds?
At this point I think id rather use a buggy, less functional oppo rom with great sound quality and that just sucks:crying:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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I haven't noticed much of a drop in quality, but I didn't stay on stock for long. Maybe I'll switch back to stock on the next beta and see what the audio and camera are like. I have no camera on my current ROM.
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I should mention I'm also streaming over blue tooth when making this comparison.
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osmosizzz said:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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Well didi you try to listen music with different earphones ? Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
I tryed to use Oppo earphones on HTC and they sounds poor. Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
If you find some conclusion pls let me know, because I'm not willing to use custom rom ..... for now. :victory:
THX
Grimmy91 said:
And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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I have had both HTC One X, and the Droid DNA and I think Oppo sounds better. I don't know about the New HTC One with Boom-Sound though?
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And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
whynotbgd said:
Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
No No No
Entropy512 said:
Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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All marketing mumbojumbo for "cheesy postprocessing and/or lame EQ preset"
The fact that it only works to "fix" Oppo's cheap earbuds is a clear sign that it is just an EQ preset designed to compensate for the deficiencies of cheap earbuds.
All of the research I've read indicates that DIRAC serves to do only one thing: Compensate for cheapo earbuds to make them sound better. It will make good earbuds/earphones sound like crap, and is unncessary with them.
When you can get Monoprice 9927s for <$10:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10823&cs_id=1082303&p_id=9927&seq=1&format=2
http://lifehacker.com/5991079/monoprice-improves-on-the-best-7-headphones-youll-ever-buy
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-30/
And Comply foam replacement tips for $15:
http://www.complyfoam.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-T-400-Isolation-Earphone-Medium/dp/B002NUJ2RM/ (for the non-waxguard version, waxguard is $20 for three pairs)
It's pointless to waste time working around crappy cheap OEM buds.
Edit: In general, Comply foam tips are one of the best "bang for your buck" upgrades for any earbud (except ones that already have foam tips)
Yeah, honestly, this crap is like the same BS they pull with Pixel count in cell cameras.
I have some very nice Westone buds that sound amazing on any phone I've had. Turn off all the garbage and you get yourself a hell of an audio experience. These guys feel like they have to provide some audio gem in name because these bloody devices are phones, not good quality audio gear. If you want to bump your audio experience, go get a portable amp and melt your brain.
The Oppo and CM sound great. Only need I have for the DSP is to tweak the sound of the speaker for voice calls.
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I have had no issues with Bluetooth with my Sony bluetooth headset.
Google completely replaced the entire Bluetooth stack with 4.2
crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
osmosizzz said:
I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
I feel like the audio quality improved on the external speaker with cm10.1
osmosizzz said:
speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great.
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Entropy512 said:
I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
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I'm having big battery issues with my Galaxy S2 and was considering the switch to the Find5, the good sound quality being one of the strongest argument for me so the fact that Dirac is only an EQ to compensate crappy earbuds is kinda bumping me out
A long long time ago I used to listen to music on a iAudio X5 / Shure E4g combo, with great quality (the integrated EQ helped, but still wow, great sound). Now I'm on the GS2, and it's fine with a pair of Ultimate Ears 400vi but I'm not coming back to crappy earbuds, so if the only plus of the Find5 in the audio corner besides the speaker is an EQ then I guess I'll have to wait until the next big cheap thing
What do you think? Considering Oppo opened its sources from the start is it possible that the sound capabilities of the stock rom get ported to other roms like CM?
osmosizzz said:
With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much?
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How does it work on CM? Gotta test that right away on my S2
You definitely have to play with v4a until you get the right sound for you. And sound settings varies from headphone to headphone
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May be an eq thing but stock ROM produces better sound and louder volume. Bass is also stronger on stock ROM.
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whynotbgd said:
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
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took your statement and did a test myself on stock rom and on firefly (international) , found some good music and hooked up the stock headset in the find 5, sounds great with DIRAC , as you said, then switched headset after have playing music in a periode, then tested with DIRAC enabled on my beats audio headset (stock from htc sensation xl), and sound was still really good, not much diffrent, only beats had more bass , but that headset is also a inear headset, which usually gives more bass.
Then just today, after flashing a codefireXperimental rom, as name say, not released at all, and then tested both headsets again, this time, ofc without DIRAC, but nothing else, no audio mods at all. and stock headset is a little bit more bad in cfxp than in stock with DIRAC, but not at all as in other custom roms ive tried. then switched to beats headset, very little diffrent here, from stock rom with DIRAC and now in custom rom.
After all, i think that audio quality ,cant only be blamed at DIRAC , if you look in this link , its pretty impressive who uses DIRAC, so im sure its not crap only
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Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
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Thats not true, it works fine without DIRAC enabled, and after testing my own beats headset with dirac and without in custom roms, i dont hear at all that the sound is more bad with Dirac than it is without, infact i like the audio more with my find 5 and beats audio, even in cfxp, than i do with beats audio on my htc sensation xl.
I am one of those guys who actually uses the phones's loudspeakers to listen to music, watch videos and stuff. I previously had HTC One M7, and coming from that phone, I noticed even better how bad LG G3's loudspeaker actually sounds. But that's why we use equalizer,eh?
Let me remind you though, this will not make it as good as HTC One's Boomsound speakers, but it is a step to right direction (atleast I think so). Here is a equalizer setting for stock music app, tell me what you think!
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I am one of those guys who actually uses the phones's loudspeakers to listen to music, watch videos and stuff. I previously had HTC One M7, and coming from that phone, I noticed even better how bad LG G3's loudspeaker actually sounds. But that's why we use equalizer,eh?
Let me remind you though, this will not make it as good as HTC One's Boomsound speakers, but it is a step to right direction (atleast I think so). Here is a equalizer setting for stock music app, tell me what you think!
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Thank you for this, it sounds much richer! Is there any way to make this the default eq setting for all of the phones audio output? It's far too harsh without!
techbananas said:
Thank you for this, it sounds much richer! Is there any way to make this the default eq setting for all of the phones audio output? It's far too harsh without!
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You can search with term "equalizer" on Google Play Store. There's some pretty good ones, but they all have the same problem: they don't have preamp. Without this feature the equalizer's output is really quiet. I am still looking for the best one...
Interesting.
It's too bad that it sounds like butt when you switch to headphones though.
00dahc said:
Interesting.
It's too bad that it sounds like butt when you switch to headphones though.
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Yeah, too much boosted bass and reduced mids. The speaker is designed for mid and high sounds so to get it more bassy, this is the only way.
Viper4Android works well on the G3 but you need to be rooted. It controls each output separately and can change the sound quality quite radically.
ChrisM75 said:
Viper4Android works well on the G3 but you need to be rooted. It controls each output separately and can change the sound quality quite radically.
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Can u pls share your settings of v4android? If not too difficult with pictures is the best. Thanks in advance.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
I am one of those guys who actually uses the phones's loudspeakers to listen to music, watch videos and stuff. I previously had HTC One M7, and coming from that phone, I noticed even better how bad LG G3's loudspeaker actually sounds. But that's why we use equalizer,eh?
Let me remind you though, this will not make it as good as HTC One's Boomsound speakers, but it is a step to right direction (atleast I think so). Here is a equalizer setting for stock music app, tell me what you think!
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A big reason I got this phone was the audio experience.
Now, I'm using LineageOS (as it seems most are) and I'm wondering about how its audio quality compares to that of stock.
From what I can tell, it's not using Dolby Atmos as stock does, and I'd like to have that. But, I'm not really sure of anything beyond that. Any chance we can add that in custom, non-stock ROMs?
What else is there we can do? It just doesn't sound the same.
MelloZ said:
A big reason I got this phone was the audio experience.
Now, I'm using LineageOS (as it seems most are) and I'm wondering about how its audio quality compares to that of stock.
From what I can tell, it's not using Dolby Atmos as stock does, and I'd like to have that. But, I'm not really sure of anything beyond that. Any chance we can add that in custom, non-stock ROMs?
What else is there we can do? It just doesn't sound the same.
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The stock audio is the BEST, loudest, and clearest sounding phone experiences I've ever heard. Blows away any of the earlier HTC M7-M9, as well as the Moto X Pure/Play.
LoS has issues with the audio... It's not stereo, it's distorted unless turned down fairly low, but I think it's ok using headphones/ear buds?
About the only solution to cure the distortion is to turn the gain down using Viper4Android, or ARISE (which has V4a). It also has a great EQ, some like better than Dolby Atomos, but I prefer the Dolby Atmos. ARISE has a Dolby add-on, but not sure it works?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709
I tried this with AOKP, but I use the speakers too much and they still distorted or were really low with no distortion. So, back to Stock-ROOTed Nougat for me.
Why on the latest 7.1.1 b02 is the external speaker quality when using Atmos so bad now?
It sounds like a tin can compared to what it was, there is no tone or warmth.
Its not like you can do much with the EQ to change things as it's pretty useless.
Mike
Ditch dolby. Get viper.
That's cool, but why has it been wrecked like this, it used to be fine. Does viper make use of the audio chipset in this phone, or just use the Qualcomm.
Mike
A quick comeback, viper super audio quality requires root. Its bloody annoying ZTE have trashed Dolby, this phone lives on the reputation of its audio quality, we shouldn't need to use a third party app to get it, it's really poor on ZTE's part.
In the USA version (2017U) 7.1.1.. Dolby Atmos sounded better and louder to my ears?
I made the jump to LoS two days ago....While the sound issue is "fixed", it's still not at good as stock with Dolby Atomos. I even have Viper installed... While it helps significantly, it's not as good as Dolby. I even found a Dolby Digital that works with LoS...It appears very similar to Dolby Atmos, but not the same.
That's my opinion, of course.
It just seems to lack the depth of sound it once had, it was a really full sound at one point, now its loud but no better than any other phone at all. When I got it first it was mind blowing through external speakers for a smart phone.
Not noticed any difference on A2017
rolfey83 said:
It just seems to lack the depth of sound it once had, it was a really full sound at one point, now its loud but no better than any other phone at all. When I got it first it was mind blowing through external speakers for a smart phone.
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Atmos is meant for concerts and movies. It's not really meant for audio. V4A is better for audio.
Then why would they have used it, and why did it used to sound great?
I don't get it...
Hi everyone,
Just bought an Axon 7 yesterday and it's the best phone I have ever used till now. Have one question regarding the Dobly audio. Is it only applied on the external speaker or on the earphone/headphone jack as well ? Since I mostly listen to music through my earphone so I am thinking about disabling Dobly to save some battery.
ortolan said:
Hi everyone,
Just bought an Axon 7 yesterday and it's the best phone I have ever used till now. Have one question regarding the Dobly audio. Is it only applied on the external speaker or on the earphone/headphone jack as well ? Since I mostly listen to music through my earphone so I am thinking about disabling Dobly to save some battery.
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Both. Many people will tell you that the effect when on headphones is hideous and stuff like that, but in reality it's very subjective and everyone has a different opinion... try for yourself. For example I prefer it off for music, but it's awesome when you're seeing a movie or Youtube videos (better with Rich EQ on my headphones)
Also don't wanna bother too much, but it's Dolby
Dolby all the way, it enhances headphones so much
Choose an username... said:
Both. Many people will tell you that the effect when on headphones is hideous and stuff like that, but in reality it's very subjective and everyone has a different opinion... try for yourself. For example I prefer it off for music, but it's awesome when you're seeing a movie or Youtube videos (better with Rich EQ on my headphones)
Also don't wanna bother too much, but it's Dolby
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Well may be I am among those people. The only difference when I use Dobly for my earphone is the slightly decrease in the volume, nothing more. The music quality sounds exactly the same. Also, when I plug in my earphone, Dobly is automatically turned off, I read somewhere mentioning that this is the default feature of Axon 7, because Dobly is meant for the external speakers. Anyway, I guess I will stick with non-Dobly option for earphone for the moment, thank you for your help.
ortolan said:
Hi everyone,
Just bought an Axon 7 yesterday and it's the best phone I have ever used till now. Have one question regarding the Dobly audio. Is it only applied on the external speaker or on the earphone/headphone jack as well ? Since I mostly listen to music through my earphone so I am thinking about disabling Dobly to save some battery.
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Choose an username... said:
Both. Many people will tell you that the effect when on headphones is hideous and stuff like that, but in reality it's very subjective and everyone has a different opinion... try for yourself. For example I prefer it off for music, but it's awesome when you're seeing a movie or Youtube videos (better with Rich EQ on my headphones)
Also don't wanna bother too much, but it's Dolby
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front firing speakers said:
Dolby all the way, it enhances headphones so much
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ortolan said:
Well may be I am among those people. The only difference when I use Dobly for my earphone is the slightly decrease in the volume, nothing more. The music quality sounds exactly the same. Also, when I plug in my earphone, Dobly is automatically turned off, I read somewhere mentioning that this is the default feature of Axon 7, because Dobly is meant for the external speakers. Anyway, I guess I will stick with non-Dobly option for earphone for the moment, thank you for your help.
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Actually, is a little more complicated than what you guys are saying:
Axon 7 comes with 2 DAC's, the AKM one and the Snapdragon integrated. DAC is only used while using the audio jack, the DAC will never be used with the front facing speakers.
Dolby Atmos is the default for speakers, but if you plug the jack, 2 things will happen:
1) Dolby Atmos will be disabled
2) The AKM DAC will be used.
This is in the case that you have selected Hi-Fi in Sound Settings, because we have to remember that we also have Super. But what happens if I manually enable Atmos while on headphones?, 2 things will happen again:
1) Dolby is activated
2) Axon 7 will change the AKM DAC to the Snapdragon one, which would be the same effect that changing from Hi-Fi to Super in Sound settings.
Right now there is no way to use Dolby with the AKM DAC, at least on stock ROM.
I have read a lot about this, and I also made some tests myself trying all the possible combinations, but this is the cruel reality, which is kind of a bummer if we take in mind that we don't have a proper equalization while we use the AKM DAC, and if we want to use Dolby, Axon 7 changes automatically to the lower quality Snapdragon DAC.
Galaxo60 said:
Actually, is a little more complicated than what you guys are saying:
Axon 7 comes with 2 DAC's, the AKM one and the Snapdragon integrated. DAC is only used while using the audio jack, the DAC will never be used with the front facing speakers.
Dolby Atmos is the default for speakers, but if you plug the jack, 2 things will happen:
1) Dolby Atmos will be disabled
2) The AKM DAC will be used.
This is in the case that you have selected Hi-Fi in Sound Settings, because we have to remember that we also have Super. But what happens if I manually enable Atmos while on headphones?, 2 things will happen again:
1) Dolby is activated
2) Axon 7 will change the AKM DAC to the Snapdragon one, which would be the same effect that changing from Hi-Fi to Super in Sound settings.
Right now there is no way to use Dolby with the AKM DAC, at least on stock ROM.
I have read a lot about this, and I also made some tests myself trying all the possible combinations, but this is the cruel reality, which is kind of a bummer if we take in mind that we don't have a proper equalization while we use the AKM DAC, and if we want to use Dolby, Axon 7 changes automatically to the lower quality Snapdragon DAC.
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Hm, so in the sound setting for Hi-Fi I found two options: Standard HiFi and Super sound quality. I suppose the Super option produces better sound ?
ortolan said:
Hm, so in the sound setting for Hi-Fi I found two options: Standard HiFi and Super sound quality. I suppose the Super option produces better sound ?
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No, Hi-Fi is the one that will get better results.
Super -> Snapdragon DAC
Hi-Fi -> AKM DAC
I also think that menu comes with a legend when they say that Hi-Fi is better, but I don't remember the correct words.
Galaxo60 said:
No, Hi-Fi is the one that will get better results.
Super -> Snapdragon DAC
Hi-Fi -> AKM DAC
I also think that menu comes with a legend when they say that Hi-Fi is better, but I don't remember the correct words.
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Standard: Insert earpiece to enjoy standard Hi-Fi sound quality
Super: Insert earpiece to enjoy superior sound quality with enhanced audio performance
From what I see, Super is the better option . Really confused with the way the put those words.
Galaxo60 said:
No, Hi-Fi is the one that will get better results.
Super -> Snapdragon DAC
Hi-Fi -> AKM DAC
I also think that menu comes with a legend when they say that Hi-Fi is better, but I don't remember the correct words.
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In the settings it says that Super is better so you are contradicting yourself.
On the other hand, I saw some people saying Super uses AK 4490, some say it uses Snapdragon. I dont know who to believe, it's all speculation.
I guess use what you think sounds better.
EDIT: Some say Super uses AK4490 (only with headphones and dolby off), everything else uses AK4961.
ortolan said:
Standard: Insert earpiece to enjoy standard Hi-Fi sound quality
Super: Insert earpiece to enjoy superior sound quality with enhanced audio performance
From what I see, Super is the better option . Really confused with the way the put those words.
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Chris2810 said:
In the settings it says that Super is better so you are contradicting yourself.
On the other hand, I saw some people saying Super uses AK 4490, some say it uses Snapdragon. I dont know who to believe, it's all speculation.
I guess use what you think sounds better.
EDIT: Some say Super uses AK4490 (only with headphones and dolby off), everything else uses AK4961.
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Both of you are right, my mistake.
Super should be the one that you should use, I got confused because currently I don't have the Axon 7 with me, I couldn't remember well the options and I think that at some time they changed the name of them as well.
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In the settings it says that Super is better so you are contradicting yourself.
On the other hand, I saw some people saying Super uses AK 4490, some say it uses Snapdragon. I dont know who to believe, it's all speculation.
I guess use what you think sounds better.
EDIT: Some say Super uses AK4490 (only with headphones and dolby off), everything else uses AK4961.
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No, there is a recording ADC (the AK4961 I think) and a DAC (4490). Standard uses the Snapdragon DAC while Super uses the AKM DAC. There's no reason to believe otherwise since ZTE advertises the AKM DAC as a better output device, so why would they say that it delivers "standard performance"?
He just messed up, it happens. I also thought that it said Super and HiFi but they might have changed that to Standard and Super later.
But again, DON'T RELY ON MARKETING! Many people prefer the Snapdragon DAC despite the slightly higher noise level since it is more bassy than the AKM DAC. Just because some people say that the AKM is better doesn't mean that you can't prefer the other one, ESPECIALLY when different music sounds obviously different. Depending on what you listen to you might want to use Standard if you prefer the different sound it gives. If you use Spotify (even Premium) or MP3 files there won't be more quality on the DAC, just less noise and maybe slightly different soundstage and stuff like that. Or install Viper4Android and tweak the crap out of it
The Dolby app says it works on speakers and headphones. Sure it is confusing.
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The Dolby app says it works on speakers and headphones. Sure it is confusing.
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Why confusing? We said the exact same thing here already
Ivanvm said:
The Dolby app says it works on speakers and headphones. Sure it is confusing.View attachment 4201418
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Is not confusing at all, it works with headphones, but it will change to standard DAC, that's the tricky difference.
Galaxo60 said:
Actually, is a little more complicated than what you guys are saying:
Axon 7 comes with 2 DAC's, the AKM one and the Snapdragon integrated. DAC is only used while using the audio jack, the DAC will never be used with the front facing speakers.
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A DAC is always required for speakers as they are analog devices. So the front facing speaker uses a DAC, probably the Snapdragon one. That's why phones that come sans auxiliary port need headphones with a built-in DAC or a dongle.
jgates86 said:
A DAC is always required for speakers as they are analog devices. So the front facing speaker uses a DAC, probably the Snapdragon one. That's why phones that come sans auxiliary port need headphones with a built-in DAC or a dongle.
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Yeah, that's what he meant, he was just talking about THE dac