[HELP] Software Update Warning; Unable to downgrade? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys I need some help, I recently flashed a stock lollipop rom for my rooted note 3 N9005, and after the setting up the phone, I had a notification about Software Update and in the details it says in the end that "After updating, you will not be able to downgrade to old software because of updates to the security policy". I want to apply this update but I am a bit worried that I may not able to downgrade to kitkat and jellybean, can I apply this update? I'm sorry for the noob questions.
And by the way, how do I downgrade from stock lollipop 5.0 rom to jellybean 4.3? I tried flashing a rom that came from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461929 it passed the Odin but It won't even boot to recovery, it keeps rebooting and is stuck at the Galaxy Note 3 logo with Recovery Booting... and it still has the "powered by Android" text on the bottom.

Llamas_are_Good said:
Guys I need some help, I recently flashed a stock lollipop rom for my rooted note 3 N9005, and after the setting up the phone, I had a notification about Software Update and in the details it says in the end that "After updating, you will not be able to downgrade to old software because of updates to the security policy". I want to apply this update but I am a bit worried that I may not able to downgrade to kitkat and jellybean, can I apply this update? I'm sorry for the noob questions.
And by the way, how do I downgrade from stock lollipop 5.0 rom to jellybean 4.3? I tried flashing a rom that came from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461929 it passed the Odin but It won't even boot to recovery, it keeps rebooting and is stuck at the Galaxy Note 3 logo with Recovery Booting... and it still has the "powered by Android" text on the bottom.
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Once you update to stock Lollipop, there is not going back. It has something to do with the bootloader. You are stuck with Lollipop, I suggest you get used to it and embrace it
I really don't see any advantages that Kit Kat could have over Lollipop on this phone.
Wait nvm, It's Jellybean you can't downgrade to. You CAN downgrade to Kit Kat, but make sure you wipe data in recovery to avoid bootloops.

ShaDisNX255 said:
Once you update to stock Lollipop, there is not going back. It has something to do with the bootloader. You are stuck with Lollipop, I suggest you get used to it and embrace it
I really don't see any advantages that Kit Kat could have over Lollipop on this phone.
Wait nvm, It's Jellybean you can't downgrade to. You CAN downgrade to Kit Kat, but make sure you wipe data in recovery to avoid bootloops.
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Aww well that's a shame, I guess I'll try downgrading to kitkat, anyways thank you for your reply

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Went back to stock 4.2.2, how do I update to 4.3 stock? (won't let me update)

So basically I went back to stock by "TAR files to flash MF3 via ODIN" and now I am on 4.2.2 stock. I don't really need root and just want to go 4.3
What I want to do is go 4.3 but it won't let me, it says I am up to date even though I am on 4.2.2.
It also won't let me update via kies...how do I fix this?
btort1 said:
Ok so I have a rooted 4.2.2 mf3 S4 and I want to factory reset it because it's pretty laggy if I compare it to my gf's s4 which is also rooted.
I didn’t do the odin root, I used this method to root my s4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_lu4ibJQtg
Is there any easy way to factory reset without losing the root?
I got a few more questions
Is there a way I can go to 4.3 root from 4.2.2? What would happen if I update to stock 4.3 or 4.4 (when it officially comes out) using the AT&T software update, will it brick my phone or will I be ok?
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ODIN root method is for the I337m only anyways, so it wouldn't have worked. If you do a factory reset in the stock recovery, it doesn't touch the system files at all so you should still keep root. I'd make SuperSU a system app first though. You can get the 4.3 OTA through the software update menu and as long as you activate survival mode in SuperSU and you haven't made any changes whatsoever to the system files (besides root), it will run just fine.
Nvm got it! thanks
Bump! updated OP

[Q] 4.3 TO 5.0 ... what about recovery...

Hey simple question (obviously not for me) Im trying to update my note from 4.3 (MI7) to 5.0 (dompop)
I had to install custom recovery for 4.3 bootloader but when I install 5.0 do I have to update recovery also right away or later or before restart or when...
Im not sure about that. Installing rom should be easy but not sure what to do with recovery or to do anything at all?!
Recovery? No need to worry about that. Just flash.
When I install it first time I needed right version recovery for my bootloader job kitkat etc and now when I change to lollipop it does not matter. Good to know just a little confusing

[Q] Att S4 Flashing Issue

I was able to downgrade the phone to NB1 and root it with Towelroot, and used Safestrap in order to get recovery on the device.
After that, I booted into recovery and installed the GPE 5.0.1 ROM.: http://galaxys4root.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s4-roms/gpe-android-5-0-1-lollipop-rom-for-galaxy-s4/
Now the phone will not go past the S4 splash page, reboots and then goes into the stock recovery. Ive tried factory reset, clearing cache and removing the battery.
Any help is appreciated. I bought this phone for my fiance and am wanting to give it to her soon as a present.
Thank you so much in advance.
I think the problem is that you downgraded.
GDReaper said:
I think the problem is that you downgraded.
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I couldnt install towelroot on the 4.4.4 version it came with since it said device wasnt supported.
I was following these instructions: http://www.droidviews.com/root-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-android-4-4-4-kitkat-firmware-i337ucufnj4/
It states to downgrade, then root, then go back to the 4.4.4. I thought after the steps I took, I could go straight to a custom ROM.
Thanks
I used CF-Auto-Root to root my device. Since towelroot didn't work for me either.
Maybe the rom did not flash right. Try flashing again.
problem in installing lollipop rom india to samsung i9500
I have installed the newly released lollipop rom to my samsung i9500 through odin. it was successfully flashed but the phone cant restart, it stuck with samsung written on the screen and blue light on...what i should do???

Odin can't install any firmware/rom

I really need help on this one... I had my device rooted and then I installed lollipop.. Now for some reason I cannot install any rom into my phone.. Odin always gives me errors.. I've tried 4.2 4.4 5.0 nothing..
They all fail by saying sometime auth..
Any help?
lollipop update locks the bootloader tight, you're stuck with stock now. Sorry...

I337UCUGOC3 bootloader locked, want to update to I337UCUGOK2 to unlock bootloader

I hit on UPDATE on the phone for an OTA update but it only says UNABLE TO CONNECT AT&T SERVER. When I bought it, it had 5.0.1 (I337UCUGOC3) out of the box. Searching on internet says that is bootloader locked (so I cant do anything).
- Can I Update to I337UCUGOK2 and bootloader will be unlocked (I mean, will I be able to do it)?
- Does anyone know where can I grab I337UCUGOK2 for offline install and is it ODIN safe to update it (remember I have I337UCUGOC3 bootloader locked)?
please help
Once the bootloader is locked, it will always be locked until someone finds a way to unlock it. Updating the bootloader will not allow it to be unlocked.
cybercuate said:
I hit on UPDATE on the phone for an OTA update but it only says UNABLE TO CONNECT AT&T SERVER. When I bought it, it had 5.0.1 (I337UCUGOC3) out of the box. Searching on internet says that is bootloader locked (so I cant do anything).
- Can I Update to I337UCUGOK2 and bootloader will be unlocked (I mean, will I be able to do it)?
- Does anyone know where can I grab I337UCUGOK2 for offline install and is it ODIN safe to update it (remember I have I337UCUGOC3 bootloader locked)?
please help
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Unlocking/exploiting the bootloader for the AT&T is still in process, I think.
Bootloader locked means you can not install custom recovery like TWRP, CWM or custom kernel. You can still root, you can still use odin and you can still install custom rom using either safestrp or flashfire.
Here is the thread explaining how to upgrade stock or rooted stock roms.
The explanation starts from installation of NB1 firmware so that you can easily root the phone by using twolroot.
If you do not care for the root you can start reading from the step 2 "Flash update in stock recovery"
Since you are on OC3, you need OC3 to OC4 and OC4 to OK2 files to get OK2.
help... I want to RMA it
sway8966 said:
Unlocking/exploiting the bootloader for the AT&T is still in process, I think.
Bootloader locked means you can not install custom recovery like TWRP, CWM or custom kernel. You can still root, you can still use odin and you can still install custom rom using either safestrp or flashfire.
Here is the thread explaining how to upgrade stock or rooted stock roms.
The explanation starts from installation of NB1 firmware so that you can easily root the phone by using twolroot.
If you do not care for the root you can start reading from the step 2 "Flash update in stock recovery"
Since you are on OC3, you need OC3 to OC4 and OC4 to OK2 files to get OK2.
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Everywhere says I need a kitkat rom as base.
My s4 came with 5.0.1 with OC3 and bootloader locked out of the box. I tried some post where says I can flash TWRP and CWM but my phone stucked on bootloops. Then I managed to get back to stock rom and now when I want to turn it on it says " SAMSUNG (and lower on the screen) Custom"
Camera began to fail and I want to return it as RMA but I was looking to reset the flash counter but every post I read is that OC3 bootloader locked users are just doomed.
Do you know a method that I can do for reset that counter?
Camera dont focus anymore and I tried all the posts about safemode, etc.
cybercuate said:
Everywhere says I need a kitkat rom as base.
My s4 came with 5.0.1 with OC3 and bootloader locked out of the box. I tried some post where says I can flash TWRP and CWM but my phone stucked on bootloops. Then I managed to get back to stock rom and now when I want to turn it on it says " SAMSUNG (and lower on the screen) Custom"
Camera began to fail and I want to return it as RMA but I was looking to reset the flash counter but every post I read is that OC3 bootloader locked users are just doomed.
Do you know a method that I can do for reset that counter?
Camera dont focus anymore and I tried all the posts about safemode, etc.
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Flashing TWRP and CWM is for the AT&T S4 with older bootloader (MDL, MDB). After that two firmware versions the bootloader is locked.
For AT&T S4 the last full firmware released is NB1. After that they released incremental updates via OTA. That is why you need kitkat (NB1) as base.
For NB1, Muniz uploaded two firmwares. One is the stock and the other is rootable stock. Try the stock one and see you still have the custom symbol.
To reset the counter, there is an app calls Triangle away by Chainfire. However, it does not work on AT&T S4 with locked bootloader.
Trying Odin-Stock NB1
sway8966 said:
Unlocking/exploiting the bootloader for the AT&T is still in process, I think.
Bootloader locked means you can not install custom recovery like TWRP, CWM or custom kernel. You can still root, you can still use odin and you can still install custom rom using either safestrp or flashfire.
Here is the thread explaining how to upgrade stock or rooted stock roms.
The explanation starts from installation of NB1 firmware so that you can easily root the phone by using twolroot.
If you do not care for the root you can start reading from the step 2 "Flash update in stock recovery"
Since you are on OC3, you need OC3 to OC4 and OC4 to OK2 files to get OK2.
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sway8966 said:
Flashing TWRP and CWM is for the AT&T S4 with older bootloader (MDL, MDB). After that two firmware versions the bootloader is locked.
For AT&T S4 the last full firmware released is NB1. After that they released incremental updates via OTA. That is why you need kitkat (NB1) as base.
For NB1, Muniz uploaded two firmwares. One is the stock and the other is rootable stock. Try the stock one and see you still have the custom symbol.
To reset the counter, there is an app calls Triangle away by Chainfire. However, it does not work on AT&T S4 with locked bootloader.
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Thanks. I'll try Odin it with the stock rom from your link. I'll post news here when it finish flashing
1st part - Success
I'm on 4.4.2 NB1, flash counter back to normal but still bootloader locked
Now I have to go back to OC3 to RMA it.
OTA does nothing, smartswitch shows no updates neither kies.
I'll have to Odin it back to OC3
Can I have some help?
And Success. I'm back on stock OC3 no root.
time to RMA
- camera still doesn't focus
- boot screen is back to normal but when in odin mode the counter shows 0x1
- sometimes shows "sim card could not be detected" or similar messages and force me to restart the phone (just happend 2 times until now, never happend before)
I followed this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
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Thanks to sway8966

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