I haven't seen anything officially confirm did Samsung ever say whether this supported Qualcomm quick charge 3.0 or 4.0, or USB Power Delivery via USB-C?
Here's a screen shot of the charger for the S8 from the PhoneArena unboxing. Looks like 2.0 again. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58e2baf65e2a4/S8%20fast%20charger.JPG
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That would be VERY disappointing seeing as this is the worlds first phone with both Snapdragon 835 and USB-C. Only supporting 2.0 is such a step backwards. At least give us Power Delivery!
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That would be VERY disappointing seeing as this is the worlds first phone with both Snapdragon 835 and USB-C. Only supporting 2.0 is such a step backwards. At least give us Power Delivery!
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Exynos does not support Qualcoms quick charge features... as such they out their own adaptive fast charging which does not seem to be changing any time soon.
Dash charge on the OnePlus 3 and the VOOC charge on OPPO phones which dash charge is based on is really awesome i was hoping after the battery thing that Samsung would have gone with that as it does keep my one plus Cool mostly if it get warm thats plenty.
What I need to find out is what is required for this exynos adaptive fast charging to work (and how much faster is it than using any standard 2.4a charger). the qualcomm quickcharge afaik requires specific chargers to make it work, I assume the samsung one also requires specific chargers to make it work but all i ever see are qualcomm ones advertised (and this is in europe where we only get exynos samsungs and they conveniently never mention in all this adverising that the quickcharge wont work on european samsungs!). Obviously i can probably buy some samsung charger but I'd rather not pay silly prices for their accessories after paying a silly price for the phone already
Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charging is essentially QC2.0 ... as i have an official quick charge 2.0 charger that works with the S6 and s7 etc ....
what Samsung needs to do is update AFC to support QC 3.0 or 4.0 voltages or come up with another solution all together
i would rather they go the route if Dash charge or Motorola's solution but in wake of the battery incident (note 7) i would see why they would have held back on advancing quick charge.
since qualcomm 835 supports quick charge 4.0 which let you charge 5 minutes to get 5 hours of talk time.
maybe someone can hack it and enable qc4.0 with custom rom
It's definitely QC2.0. I asked the guy working in the Samsung Experience area and he said QC2.0. I'm surprised that it's QC2.0, as I would think the newer SoCs are at least QC3.0 compatible.
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It's definitely QC2.0. I asked the guy working in the Samsung Experience area and he said QC2.0. I'm surprised that it's QC2.0, as I would think the newer SoCs are at least QC3.0 compatible.
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Qualcomm 835 is the first chip that supports the new Quick Charge 4.0 standards, its shocking that samsung isn't utilizing that being that they are the first phone with the 835 chip. Maybe they are just playing it conservative when it comes to batteries and chargers until quick charge 4.0 is verified as safe, they can't take another charger/battery disaster.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-new-3/
Can I use my existing Samsung S7 edge Official standing wireless quick charger pad since its still 2.0??
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It's definitely QC2.0. I asked the guy working in the Samsung Experience area and he said QC2.0. I'm surprised that it's QC2.0, as I would think the newer SoCs are at least QC3.0 compatible.
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Can I use my existing Samsung S7 edge Official standing wireless quick charger pad since its still 2.0??
If the QC 2 revision is maintained, then there go the battery lifespan improvements, among other features, that QC 4 offers.
Genuinely hoping this is not the case.
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Qualcomm 835 is the first chip that supports the new Quick Charge 4.0 standards, its shocking that samsung isn't utilizing that being that they are the first phone with the 835 chip. Maybe they are just playing it conservative when it comes to batteries and chargers until quick charge 4.0 is verified as safe, they can't take another charger/battery disaster.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-new-3/
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Ah, okay. I wasn't aware about the new chipset having QC4.0, so thanks for the info. I was only aware of QC3.0 since I remember seeing chargers being sold that were QC3.0 compatible. It would honestly make sense for them to be a lil more conservative with the battery this year, since it's like you said, they can't afford another major debacle.
On the bright side, because of what happened, maybe this will help push other manufacturers to do more rigorous testing on their own batteries for future devices as well, since something like this could happen to ANY company. Samsung survived this ordeal as they're a juggernaut in the Android space and in general. If this happened to a smaller company, it would be much harder to recover.
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Can I use my existing Samsung S7 edge Official standing wireless quick charger pad since its still 2.0??
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Yep. And even if it was QC3.0, unless I'm mistaken (someone PLEASE correct me, if this isn't the case), it's backwards compatible with 2.0. Like, the phone would only change to the maximum amps that it was designed for.
If the chip supports it, then a future firmware update could enable it after them testing and then retesting
YEs but their charging wall worts they shipped to everyone wouldnt work for QC 4.0 so everyone would need to get a new wall wort to take advantage of it. I dont see it happening. The Snapdragon 820 chip in the Galaxy S7 supports QC 3.0 but they never enabled it, it still only charges at QC 2.0 speeds.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/09/15/snapdragon-820-quick-charge-3-0/
http://www.androidcentral.com/galax...-quick-charge-20-coming-short-latest-standard
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Can I use my existing Samsung S7 edge Official standing wireless quick charger pad since its still 2.0??
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Yep. Even if was QC3.0 or QC4.0, unless I'm mistaken, it's backwards compatible. Whatever device you plop on top, even if it can't support the faster charging speeds that 3.0 and 4.0 have, it'll just simple max out to whatever the maximum input it can take.
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Here's a screen shot of the charger for the S8 from the PhoneArena unboxing. Looks like 2.0 again. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58e2baf65e2a4/S8%20fast%20charger.JPG
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Would you happen to know if this was the US Snapdragon version or the international Exynos variant?
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I got the brochure for the Galaxy S8/S8+ from a Samsung store here in Singapore.
It says here that it supports "Ultra Fast Charging". I'm not sure what that means since I have no access to the actual charger itself or if it supports a charging with higher wattage.
I don't expect it to though, especially after what happened with the Note 7. Faster charging is probably not one of Samsung's priorities
I'll post a picture later today.
Sorry I'm a little late. This is a brochure from Singapore. Shows there "Ultra Fast Charging". First time I've seen it from Samsung.
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Interesting, and in singapore do you expect to get the Exynos version or the Snapdragon version? that is different wording then their standard "adaptive fast charging" term they have been using, maybe it means something different than the regular QC 2.0 they have been using?
Singapore definitely gets the Exynos version.
What got my curiosity is "Ultra Fast Charging". Previous phones only had "Fast Charging" or "Adaptive Fast Charging".
maybe they're talking about USB power delivery.
"USB Power Delivery is a charging technology. It uses USB-C cables and connectors to deliver higher levels of power to your devices."
http://www.belkin.com/us/Resource-Center/power-delivery/
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I'm really curious why people are saying their Note 3 charges so much faster than the Note II. I'm experiencing identical charging speed for my Korean Galaxy Note 3.
With an external changing case with the included 2A charger that came with the Note 3, I can go to 5% to 100% in exactly 2.5 hours consistently.
Through the USB port 3.0 on my computer, and since the USB 3.0 mode doesn't stay on for more than 10 minutes while idle, the charging is painfully slow through the USB 3.0 port. It'll probably have to go 8 hours.
I haven't tried it but, I'm guessing charging from the AC while the phone is on is going to similar to what I was getting on the Note 2, which is around 3.5 hours.
Are any of you getting different/same results? I'd love to know how many amps is your charger. The Korean Galaxy Note 3 came with a charger that had the 5 pin micro USB cable hardwired into it and it says 2.0A
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I'm really curious why people are saying their Note 3 charges so much faster than the Note II. I'm experiencing identical charging speed for my Korean Galaxy Note 3.
With an external changing case with the included 2A charger that came with the Note 3, I can go to 5% to 100% in exactly 2.5 hours consistently.
Through the USB port 3.0 on my computer, and since the USB 3.0 mode doesn't stay on for more than 10 minutes while idle, the charging is painfully slow through the USB 3.0 port. It'll probably have to go 8 hours.
I haven't tried it but, I'm guessing charging from the AC while the phone is on is going to similar to what I was getting on the Note 2, which is around 3.5 hours.
Are any of you getting different/same results? I'd love to know how many amps is your charger. The Korean Galaxy Note 3 came with a charger that had the 5 pin micro USB cable hardwired into it and it says 2.0A
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My Charger is 2.0A. It's a travel adapter with a USB port on it. It definitely charges a lot faster than when connected to the PC but my PC isn't USB3 so it's not quite a fair comparison. I'm actually wondering about the travel adapter as its USB port isn't blue so I wonder if it's USB3 or not, or if that makes a difference.
I'm curious, what do you mean by "USB 3.0 mode doesn't stay on for more than 10 minutes"?
Note3 charges more or less same speed as note2 for me.
The charger that it comes with is slightly higher than the standard 5 volts.
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A person at one of those phone kiosks actually told me the Note 3 comes with a 3AMP charger because it has 3GB of RAM!
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A person at one of those phone kiosks actually told me the Note 3 comes with a 3AMP charger because it has 3GB of RAM!
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If I facepalm any harder, my hand will pierce through my skull.
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If I facepalm any harder, my hand will pierce through my skull.
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That could start a war...
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Scary to think how many people not knowing better get told such bad info...
My charger is 2.0 amps also as for usb3 charge I got a latest Asus motherboard that in a specific usb3 port gives 2amps so usb charging is same for me in there.
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My ATT version GN3 came with 5.3V 2.0A charger that looks exactly like my wife's S4 5.0V 2.0A charger. Her cable is standard mirco-usb and the GN3 is 3.0 micro-usb.
My charger that came with the phone is 2.0A & 5.0V.
It charges (draws current) at 1,200 mah
When it reaches 100% charge, it draws 1,800 mah.
He doesn't know what he is saying...! Note 3 comes with 3Amp charger because its NOTE --》3《-- !!! Note 2 had 2 Amp charger and next year note 4 will have 4! Amp charger....
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Now seriously..... Did you punch him in his face when he said that...?? Please say yees.. :banghead:
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Yup
2.0A, 5.3V
Viptr said:
He doesn't know what he is saying...! Note 3 comes with 3Amp charger because its NOTE --》3《-- !!! Note 2 had 2 Amp charger and next year note 4 will have 4! Amp charger....
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I second this ridiculous statement!
my note 3 also charges at 1.2A with either usb3 or usb2 cable (from my note 2). My note 2 charged at 1.8A...I'm not seeing any faster-charging benefits...I used the galaxy charging current app to measure.
really? current draw increases after 100% charge
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My charger that came with the phone is 2.0A & 5.0V.
It charges (draws current) at 1,200 mah
When it reaches 100% charge, it draws 1,800 mah.
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Did you reverse these numbers or does the current draw actually INCREASE
after the device reaches 100% charge?
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Did you reverse these numbers or does the current draw actually INCREASE
after the device reaches 100% charge?
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What do you mean reverse?
Im using a usb voltage/ampere tester adapter which sits in between charger and usb cable.
I can safely say that my original charger with cable charges at 1.8amp. And yes, the voltage is noticably higher than other usb chargers for some reason.
Please do note than delivering 2amp power requires good quality cable. I have tested 3 different cables (original, flat & retractable) with same original charger and the ampere difference is huge. (1.8a, 0.8a, 0.6a).
I noticed that when using the "Galaxy Charging Current Lite", if I refresh while it has been on for awhile I get 1200 if the screen is off and then quickly turn on and refresh I get 1800. I assume the 600 drop is due to the screen being on?
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Im using a usb voltage/ampere tester adapter which sits in between charger and usb cable.
I can safely say that my original charger with cable charges at 1.8amp. And yes, the voltage is noticably higher than other usb chargers for some reason.
Please do note than delivering 2amp power requires good quality cable. I have tested 3 different cables (original, flat & retractable) with same original charger and the ampere difference is huge. (1.8a, 0.8a, 0.6a).
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Thanks for this detailed response.
Would you kindly try this app:
Galaxy Charging Current Lite
I am constantly getting 1,200.
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I noticed that when using the "Galaxy Charging Current Lite", if I refresh while it has been on for awhile I get 1200 if the screen is off and then quickly turn on and refresh I get 1800. I assume the 600 drop is due to the screen being on?
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seems fair.. maybe its needed to not force the battery when its charging and using charge...
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived
Technically since our chipset is Snapdragon 800, G2 should support Quick Charge 2.0 but its missing in the compatible list. Does anyone know if it supports and if so any models for G2?
It's pretty simple if it's not on the list then it's probably not supported. Seems a bit odd that the LG G3 isn't there either but, perhaps it's just how things are: LG may have simply chosen not to use the necessary charging circuit hardware that could support such fast charging technology, sadly. I see it does specifically mention the Snapdragon 800 series which does include the original 800 but I'm guessing they're leaning towards the 805 and leaving the 800 and 801 out. Again, if it was compatible - because it's not just the chipset that's required but the charging circuit hardware too - it would most likely be on the list (meaning the G2 or the G3).
Sad but, that's how it goes. I use a 2.1A Apple charger I got at a thrift for for $3 and I don't have any complaints about the speed it charges at, but I've only had the G2 a few days. I'd like to get a brand new battery installed in it at some point as I have no idea how much wear is on the current one; I got it used in a trade for a Moto X which was about the same age roughly.
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https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2014/06/04/quick-charge-20-has-arrived
Technically since our chipset is Snapdragon 800, G2 should support Quick Charge 2.0 but its missing in the compatible list. Does anyone know if it supports and if so any models for G2?
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It should, but it might be something that has to be enabled on a kernel level, and might not be enabled by default. That doesn't mean it can't be enabled, just that it probably needs a custom kernel.
I doubt the long term benefits, however. Charging your phone faster than what the OEM has advised can potentially reduce the battery longevity.
G2 supports quick charge. I have the charger from my Optimus G and it takes 3+hrs to charge my G2 compared to quick charger I use now (blackberry). Now it charges between 45min - 1.5hrs.
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It's pretty simple if it's not on the list then it's probably not supported. Seems a bit odd that the LG G3 isn't there either but, perhaps it's just how things are: LG may have simply chosen not to use the necessary charging circuit hardware that could support such fast charging technology, sadly. I see it does specifically mention the Snapdragon 800 series which does include the original 800 but I'm guessing they're leaning towards the 805 and leaving the 800 and 801 out. Again, if it was compatible - because it's not just the chipset that's required but the charging circuit hardware too - it would most likely be on the list (meaning the G2 or the G3).
Sad but, that's how it goes. I use a 2.1A Apple charger I got at a thrift for for $3 and I don't have any complaints about the speed it charges at, but I've only had the G2 a few days. I'd like to get a brand new battery installed in it at some point as I have no idea how much wear is on the current one; I got it used in a trade for a Moto X which was about the same age roughly.
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Be careful of the cheap/fakes they may not have proper grounding and have cross connection etc issues. Some people have been killed and some hospatilized after their phones blew. Its been in the news enough times now so be careful.
Yah, I know about the fakes, this is a real actual Apple one (confirmed the serial number with Apple) so I should be good to go. I have STweaks set to 1800 mAh for the fast charge rate, did a test yesterday: G2 was at 38% so I plugged it in and 35 minutes later it was at 76% so, with this particular setup I'm getting roughly 1% per minute and I'm fine with it. Still want to get a brand new battery at some point and start fresh since I intend to keep this phone for some time, it's been fantastic since I got it.
Now I wish I had a G3...
quickcharger work
I and my bob just tested the quickcharge2.0 in G2 also Nexus5.Full charge from 2% just an hour 23 min.Much quick than the default one 5V 1.8A.charger and phone not heat,maybe little bit hot than usual.It is good.
Hailang can you post a link from where u bought it?
Hi. On my original LG charger/1,8 A/ it takes 75 min from 25% to 100%. Fast Charger ON with Dorimanx kernel.
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I preordered the Motorola quick charge2.0 wall charger. Will test for sure
@goldlocke any change to test your new Motorola charger?
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Yah, I know about the fakes, this is a real actual Apple one (confirmed the serial number with Apple) so I should be good to go. I have STweaks set to 1800 mAh for the fast charge rate, did a test yesterday: G2 was at 38% so I plugged it in and 35 minutes later it was at 76% so, with this particular setup I'm getting roughly 1% per minute and I'm fine with it. Still want to get a brand new battery at some point and start fresh since I intend to keep this phone for some time, it's been fantastic since I got it.
Now I wish I had a G3...
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What do you mean apple charger? The apple lightning cable? Or the powerbrick? I thought the cable didn't fit into the microusb port.
I mean one of these (Apple A1357 10 watt USB charger):
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I am using a G2 again nowadays with CloudyG3 and the latest Dorimanx kernel which is limited to 1600mAh for the Fast Charge, still works just fine for me. I do have an LG 1.8A charger as well with this "new" G2 of mine so, either one charges the device without issues.
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@goldlocke any change to test your new Motorola charger?
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I am still waiting for it. Amazon could not deliver yet. :/
Ace42 said:
G2 supports quick charge. I have the charger from my Optimus G and it takes 3+hrs to charge my G2 compared to quick charger I use now (blackberry). Now it charges between 45min - 1.5hrs.
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I agree with him. G2 supports quick charge, G2 charge time takes 1.5h with original charger adaptor.
I have used the Moto Quick charger and it does work. I think it provides 1.5 A @ 12 Volts, which is faster than my other charger of 2 A @ 5 Volts.
Snorbro said:
I have used the Moto Quick charger and it does work. I think it provides 1.5 A @ 12 Volts, which is faster than my other charger of 2 A @ 5 Volts.
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I hope it is not 12V, or your phone may explode....
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I hope it is not 12V, or your phone may explode....
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Actually, that is how quick charge 2.0 works. The phones have to be compatible (which ours is) and it can take higher voltage that's auto negotiated.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
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Actually, that is how quick charge 2.0 works. The phones have to be compatible (which ours is) and it can take higher voltage that's auto negotiated.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
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Quick charge might work but I don't think the lipo cells lg phone has can support it 100%
Be careful when a lipo cell goes bad it goes bad in a very dangerous way. It ether will leak and Turning your phone to a blowtorch with a flame that would melt metal.
Or it explodes. It don't just stop to work that's the downside of lipo battery's
Hi guys,
I have an D6543 (Brazilian Model), there is no difference between D6503.
I checked the Qualcomm website a lot of times, and Z2 is in compatibility list: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0
So, I purchase the Tenergy Quick Charger 2.0 at Amazon, and for my surprise, it's not working at all. Only normal charging.
I tested at 1%, and in 30 minutes only 11% was charged, VERY, VERY slow.
The light indication at charger is saying that is on normal charging.
I'm really frustrated.
Fastcharging is disabled on xperias for safety
Charging should be between 1-5 hours even without fastcharge
My z2 only take around 2 hours to fully charge from 1%. Just using the stock plug charger.
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yuskhayru said:
My z2 only take around 2 hours to fully charge from 1%. Just using the stock plug charger.
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I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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i dont know about it, but ive charged my z2 several times from 1% to 100% only take 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minute. And yes, i've heard people charged thier z2 atleast 4hours to completly fully charged from 1%. My phone is still standard, under warranty(havent mod anything yet and still unrooted).
Envious_Data said:
I dont think fastcharge is at all posible with the Z2
It charges at 1500mAh using the factory provided charger and trying to go beyond that isnt safe at all.
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I don't know why. Z2 has the Snapdragon 801, which is compatible with Quick Charger 2.0, as Z1 was compatible with QC 1.0.
LG G3 also has the 801, but LG does not enable the QC, that's why it is not at Qualcomm's website. It's weird, because Z2 was recently added to the list, and the main product page says it's compatible.
In the end, I just lost money because their poor support and information.
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i dont know about it, but ive charged my z2 several times from 1% to 100% only take 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minute. And yes, i've heard people charged thier z2 atleast 4hours to completly fully charged from 1%. My phone is still standard, under warranty(havent mod anything yet and still unrooted).
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As said its pointless trying to increase the charging rate
I learned when pushing it past 1500mAh it starts to damage the device usb port and
battery
victormartins said:
I don't know why. Z2 has the Snapdragon 801, which is compatible with Quick Charger 2.0, as Z1 was compatible with QC 1.0.
LG G3 also has the 801, but LG does not enable the QC, that's why it is not at Qualcomm's website. It's weird, because Z2 was recently added to the list, and the main product page says it's compatible.
In the end, I just lost money because their poor support and information.
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Not exactly poor support, if its safe to use and certified safe to use sony would have put it in the features list on their website but it wasnt there when i bought the phone nor when i last checked.
As said check my reply
The device charges at as fast as it safely can with the factory provided charger
I'm using envi rom.
I have a normal 2,2A usb charger.
When I use the usb port to charge i have really slow (6h from 0 to full charge) to reasonable charge time (3h from 0 to 100) depending on the used cable.
But when I use the magnetic aftermarket cable than I get insane charge time, only the last 10% from 90 to 100 is not fast but it certainly uses 2A as it is from 0 to 90% in about 90 minutes.
The phone gets slightly warm but far from the temperature it gets with intensive usage and the magnetic connection gets warm too, but nothing alarming imo.
The full metal and glass design makes heat diffuse very fast.
That sucks I'm coming from a one plus one and the charger was very fast.
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Not exactly poor support, if its safe to use and certified safe to use sony would have put it in the features list on their website but it wasnt there when i bought the phone nor when i last checked.
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Qualcomm states it does!
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
I'm using some chineese quick charger 2.1A and it charges 27% in 38min.
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Xperia Z2 and Z3 supports Quick Charge 2.0.
You need charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0, though.
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/223/223383/
This site is in Japanese, but it says you'll get 13W when you charge with charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and with normal charger you'll get 10W.
Normal charging is already fast enough, so you won't notice big difference.
AndroPlus said:
http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/223/223383/
This site is in Japanese, but it says you'll get 13W when you charge with charger which supports Quick Charge 2.0 and with normal charger you'll get 10W.
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Either they know nothing about electronics or they cannot calculate ^^
1. it should show 9W..... 1.8A x 5V so their meassurement device is not exact (hell, these Wallplug meassurement things are made for 220V ! so you measure 0.045A you can't expect them to be realistic, they're for up to 2000W not so low values.)
2. 9V x 1.8A = 16.2W but this is wrong again as the Quick CHarge 2.0 speccs are up to 4.5A for 9V
So if it really is charching with 9V it only uses 1.44A
Oh... and btw the Stock Sony Wall charger EP880 only has 5V 1.5A
Let's hope some people who know what they're doing are gonna test the Z2 or other phones with Quick Charge 2.0
mr.loverlover said:
I'm using some chineese quick charger 2.1A and it charges 27% in 38min.
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Doesn't seem like it's working ^^ if you compair to stock charger.
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As said its pointless trying to increase the charging rate
I learned when pushing it past 1500mAh it starts to damage the device usb port and
battery
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I'm unsure about the battery but this is why QC 2.0 utilizes a higher charge voltage. Also why in computers, all high current devices now run on the 12v rail instead of 3.3v or 5v, because high amperage at low voltage would damage cables and connectors. If we had expensive graphics cards pulling 400w at 3.3v there would be a huge problem with heat and necessary wire size. There is more resistance in metals with high current / low voltage vs. high voltage / low current and this is what can damage the USB port.
This is also why at 120v AC we have issues running high current draw appliances vs 220-240v circuits.
Also why high voltage is more fatal, because it travels more easily through our skin, and etc.
I contacted Qualcomm by email, and they replied to me after a few days.
Xperia Z2 officialy does not support Quick Charger 2.0, only in JAPANESE models.
They updated their website, and removed the information, that's sad.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
FYI guys, Sony Brazil sells Z2 and Z3 with Smartband, so, our OEM charger has only 0.8A :crying::crying::crying:
Just purchase some charger with 5V 2A output and you will be fine..
I have tried using the standard charger 5V 1.5A if i am correct and it took around 3 hours..
And i tried using OnePlus charger 5V 2A and it is noticeably faster
Haldi4803 said:
Either they know nothing about electronics or they cannot calculate ^^
1. it should show 9W..... 1.8A x 5V so their meassurement device is not exact (hell, these Wallplug meassurement things are made for 220V ! so you measure 0.045A you can't expect them to be realistic, they're for up to 2000W not so low values.)
2. 9V x 1.8A = 16.2W but this is wrong again as the Quick CHarge 2.0 speccs are up to 4.5A for 9V
So if it really is charching with 9V it only uses 1.44A
Oh... and btw the Stock Sony Wall charger EP880 only has 5V 1.5A
Let's hope some people who know what they're doing are gonna test the Z2 or other phones with Quick Charge 2.0
Doesn't seem like it's working ^^ if you compair to stock charger.
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I've already compared it with a normal 1.5A and it;s charging faster and the device also gets warmer.
I have a lot of apps running in the background, so my results may be other than yours.
Hello,
quick question: is it safe to charge our Z2's by S5 charger - 5,3V and 2,1A?
i dont get this. If the stock charger is 1500mA and the batery is 3200mA it should take only 2h10 to fully charge(more or less). But mine takes like 3h (brand new phone, charger and cable, all stock)
cedropol said:
Hello,
quick question: is it safe to charge our Z2's by S5 charger - 5,3V and 2,1A?
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quickcharging is disabled by sony for safety reasons.
migueldbr said:
i dont get this. If the stock charger is 1500mA and the batery is 3200mA it should take only 2h10 to fully charge(more or less). But mine takes like 3h (brand new phone, charger and cable, all stock)
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yes its 1500ma with a 3200ma battery but concider the cpu. your phone is awake for 25% of the screen being off so it should take a over 2hrs10m to charge unless you have xposed amplify installed.
I did search through the forums and didn't find anything that applied to the issue I'm having. I bought a 6P off Ebay for a good price, but it didn't come with any accessories. I don't have a C-C wall charger, but I did buy what I thought was a decent one with a C-C cable for my car. The charger is made by Satechi, and the cable is made by Belkin. They both specifically say on the box that they support fast charging, the cable up to 60W, the charger up to 36W. When I tried multiple amp monitors on my phone it only said that it was hooked up to a 1500mA charger. Plugged it into my USB battery pack which has a 2.4A port, same thing. Now, in my experience with computer hardware most of my hardware problems are generally software problems, and I'm wondering if installing Lineage on this thing has eliminated my ability for fast charging. I've done lots of searching (my Google-Fu is terrible) and there's no real mention on if fast charging is up to the hardware or software. Does anyone else have some experience with this and can maybe guide me through some things I can look at?
I know that ampère (app) says Max 1500mah too when I'm connected to my stock charger, but the charge rate goes well over 1500 mah (around 2500-2800 or something). After hitting 60% or something it slows down. I also know that lineage os on the nexus 5 says "charging slowly" on the lock screen, while the charge rate is normal.
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I know that ampère (app) says Max 1500mah too when I'm connected to my stock charger, but the charge rate goes well over 1500 mah (around 2500-2800 or something). After hitting 60% or something it slows down. I also know that lineage os on the nexus 5 says "charging slowly" on the lock screen, while the charge rate is normal.
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I had a similar thought so I drained it to about 25% and then charged it back up. Fastest charging rate I saw was 1250mA.
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I did search through the forums and didn't find anything that applied to the issue I'm having. I bought a 6P off Ebay for a good price, but it didn't come with any accessories. I don't have a C-C wall charger, but I did buy what I thought was a decent one with a C-C cable for my car. The charger is made by Satechi, and the cable is made by Belkin. They both specifically say on the box that they support fast charging, the cable up to 60W, the charger up to 36W. When I tried multiple amp monitors on my phone it only said that it was hooked up to a 1500mA charger. Plugged it into my USB battery pack which has a 2.4A port, same thing. Now, in my experience with computer hardware most of my hardware problems are generally software problems, and I'm wondering if installing Lineage on this thing has eliminated my ability for fast charging. I've done lots of searching (my Google-Fu is terrible) and there's no real mention on if fast charging is up to the hardware or software. Does anyone else have some experience with this and can maybe guide me through some things I can look at?
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It's hard to say whether the app, charger or cable is letting you down here. The 6P charging cycle has many steps and it will only pull maximum current from empty to about 30%. Next time you discharge the phone, pull it down to the single digits and then check current again. My stock charger will put out 2.7+ amps when the phone is fully discharged. (I used Accubattery). What you should also know is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes or longer even when the phone says 100%. If you are interested, you can read more in an early Anandtech article. Scroll down to the "Charge Time" paragraph/graph. There is a lot of misinformation around the USB-C standard, and ton of crappy chargers and cables that do not meet the USB-C standard or make claims that independent testing does not back up. A Google engineer named Bensen Leung has been lab testing cables and chargers to try and provide some clarity. For car chargers, he currently favors the Nekteck 5.4A . Lastly, there is much more discussion on chargers and cables in the Accessories sub-forum.
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It's hard to say whether the app, charger or cable is letting you down here. The 6P charging cycle has many steps and it will only pull maximum current from empty to about 30%. Next time you discharge the phone, pull it down to the single digits and then check current again. My stock charger will put out 2.7+ amps when the phone is fully discharged. (I used Accubattery). What you should also know is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes or longer even when the phone says 100%. If you are interested, you can read more in an early Anandtech article. Scroll down to the "Charge Time" paragraph/graph. There is a lot of misinformation around the USB-C standard, and ton of crappy chargers and cables that do not meet the USB-C standard or make claims that independent testing does not back up. A Google engineer named Bensen Leung has been lab testing cables and chargers to try and provide some clarity. For car chargers, he currently favors the Nekteck 5.4A . Lastly, there is much more discussion on chargers and cables in the Accessories sub-forum.
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Well, I tried it with the app you mentioned and it said (at 9%) at I averaged a 1350 mA charging current. I almost need to find a charger belonging to someone else that works on their own Nexus and then try it on this one.
@Caboose27
Good you tried a different app to rule out a particular app. My guess is that one of your components is not living up to it's claims. Look for Benson Leung approved cables/chargers and you won't be disappointed. Have a look through the Accessories sub-forum to find good stuff tested and endorsed by other folks. Good luck to you, and welcome to the exceptional Community of the N6P. You chose a good device.
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@Caboose27
Good you tried a different app to rule out a particular app. My guess is that one of your components is not living up to it's claims. Look for Benson Leung approved cables/chargers and you won't be disappointed. Have a look through the Accessories sub-forum to find good stuff tested and endorsed by other folks. Good luck to you, and welcome to the exceptional Community of the N6P. You chose a good device.
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I did look through the Accessories forum, and I found a post about a USB charger that's basically exactly what I'm looking for. But it was a year old and he never wrote if it worked or not, hence me starting this post. I appreciate your input though. Most of the stuff on the sub-forum is about wall chargers, and I'm specifically looking for a fast charging car charger.
See https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf (the only not so funny thing is that it doesn't mention Nexus 6p)
Will receive my car charger tomorrow and I only discovered this document today.
Lucky me, the charger is mentionned So is your Satechi.
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See https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf (the only not so funny thing is that it doesn't mention Nexus 6p)
Will receive my car charger tomorrow and I only discovered this document today.
Lucky me, the charger is mentionned So is your Satechi.
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It doesn't mention it because the Nexus 6P does not support Qualcomm's QC3 or QC2 at all. Hopefully the car charger you bought (you didn't specify) has a native USB-C port or a permanently attached USB-C cable that outputs 5V/3A. Otherwise your QC3 charger will only output a maximum of USB-A which limits you to either 2.1 or 2.4A. A review and test results of many USB-C compliant accessories can be found here.
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It does have a USB c cable and outputs at 3A.
Good spot on 6P not supporting QC while chip is a Qualcomm
Haven't seen many reviews. Will give feedback if it exploded.
edit: I finally have had time to test it. Works great.
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It does have a USB c cable and outputs at 3A.
Good spot on 6P not supporting QC while chip is a Qualcomm
Haven't seen many reviews. Will give feedback if it exploded.
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No worries mate. I have two of those same Tronsmart units. :good:
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It's hard to say whether the app, charger or cable is letting you down here. The 6P charging cycle has many steps and it will only pull maximum current from empty to about 30%. Next time you discharge the phone, pull it down to the single digits and then check current again. My stock charger will put out 2.7+ amps when the phone is fully discharged. (I used Accubattery). What you should also know is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes or longer even when the phone says 100%. If you are interested, you can read more in an early Anandtech article. Scroll down to the "Charge Time" paragraph/graph. There is a lot of misinformation around the USB-C standard, and ton of crappy chargers and cables that do not meet the USB-C standard or make claims that independent testing does not back up. A Google engineer named Bensen Leung has been lab testing cables and chargers to try and provide some clarity. For car chargers, he currently favors the Nekteck 5.4A . Lastly, there is much more discussion on chargers and cables in the Accessories sub-forum.
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I bought one and it arrived over the weekend. It works great, and it actually seems to run a tad cooler than my standard two amp charger.
Good to hear
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Realme 3 Pro can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Very good
One of the very few things that are good out of the box about this phone. Charges from 10 to 100% in 75 minutes even with screen usage while doing so.
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One of the very few things that are good out of the box about this phone. Charges from 10 to 100% in 75 minutes even with screen usage while doing so.
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What 's about battery life for 1 day?
Cyl3el2Cleal2 said:
What 's about battery life for 1 day?
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I never bring charger since use this phone?, mine is about 14-18 hours.
eugenebl27 said:
I never bring charger since use this phone, mine is about 14-18 hours.
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Same here. If I want to go out and the battery is around 40%, I just plug the charger for a while. By the time I'm ready to go 15-20 minutes later, it's already around 70%. Thats more than enough juice for 9to5 office hours.
Cyl3el2Cleal2 said:
What 's about battery life for 1 day?
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you can play any avg game for full day with out break
Realme 3 pro uses it's own VOOC 3.0 fast charger right? And it use snapdragon 710 that support Qualcomm quick charge 4.0
But Can realme 3 pro use qc 4.0 or even 3.0 atleast, like qc 3.0 powerbank or car charger maybe? They don't really have vooc accessories don't they? Just usual vooc charger?
Edit: I've found 6000mah vooc powerbank made by oppo itself, but the price is like 3 or 5 times more expensive than usual 10.000mah qc 3.0 powerbank price in here, insane ? i don't wanna pay that much for powerbank, so please still looking forward to see the compatibility between realme 3 pro and quick charge 4.0 or 3.0
Thanks
Charging time for me :
30 min - 0 to 44%
1 hr 25 min - 0 to 100%
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
Chayan0071 said:
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
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Wrong... it'll be 5V 2A instead of 5V 4A
wow suspect said:
Wrong... it'll be 5V 2A instead of 5V 4A
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No way, on the adapter it's clearly written 5v 4 amp
Use AccuBattery
I have taken measurements using the AccuBattery application, and this is the result
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I have taken measurements using the AccuBattery application, and this is the result
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that's pretty interesting results. mine is consistent with 90 min for full charge
Chayan0071 said:
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
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The original cable is available at oppo online website.
Chayan0071 said:
I lost the original cable. I can't find a authentic vooc 3 cable anywhere. Please help. Without that particular 7 pin cable, it's 5 v 1 amp instead of 5 v 5 amp.
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Search on gearbest for vooc!
Battery life is Amazing
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What 's about battery life for 1 day?
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For me, it's 36 hours. I use it all day, then it stays at standby at night while I'm asleep. Then I use it another day before charging. Works perfectly.
The compatibility
Ramdan2478 said:
Realme 3 pro uses it's own VOOC 3.0 fast charger right? And it use snapdragon 710 that support Qualcomm quick charge 4.0
But Can realme 3 pro use qc 4.0 or even 3.0 atleast, like qc 3.0 powerbank or car charger maybe? They don't really have vooc accessories don't they? Just usual vooc charger?
Edit: I've found 6000mah vooc powerbank made by oppo itself, but the price is like 3 or 5 times more expensive than usual 10.000mah qc 3.0 powerbank price in here, insane i don't wanna pay that much for powerbank, so please still looking forward to see the compatibility between realme 3 pro and quick charge 4.0 or 3.0
Thanks
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I also looking for the same thing. It's quiet difficult to find one. I also looking forward the compatibility. Peace
Edit: i've try to search any info/video about the compatibility, and it's looks like realme 3 pro does not compatible with quick charge 3.0 (it will only be a normal charging if using qc 3.0). Still looking for qc 4.0 compatibility, but still not found one. About vooc powerbank, i came across with 2 other powerbank (both 10.000mah btw), not made by oppo, that support vooc charge for realme 3 pro. Unfortunately, it appears that it only available in my country. I've try to search it in banggood or amazon, but it didn't available. In theory, if the chip support qc 4.0 it should be compatible. But then again, what do i know. Peace
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I also looking for the same thing. It's quiet difficult to find one. I also looking forward the compatibility. Peace
Edit: i've try to search any info/video about the compatibility, and it's looks like realme 3 pro does not compatible with quick charge 3.0 (it will only be a normal charging if using qc 3.0). Still looking for qc 4.0 compatibility, but still not found one. About vooc powerbank, i came across with 2 other powerbank (both 10.000mah btw), not made by oppo, that support vooc charge for realme 3 pro. Unfortunately, it appears that it only available in my country. I've try to search it in banggood or amazon, but it didn't available. In theory, if the chip support qc 4.0 it should be compatible. But then again, what do i know. Peace
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VOOC is a Proprietary technology of Oppo, Other brands won't have it even if they advertise as one. Beware.