Ouch! Why will there be a difference?
"China to Get High-End Version of Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM & 128GB ROM"
Could it be that the market has more competitive Phone choices?
I was looking for the 128Gb version because I kept seeing it would be released and the only version Tmobile is releasing is the 64Gb version. Seemed odd.
I think its retarded too, they should of just sold one model (6GB RAM/128GB) worldwide. When I had a Mate 9, I had to buy the CHN version for 6/128 compared to the normal 4/64. I might have to do it again if the CHN version supports all of TMO LTE bands. One thing I've experienced with CHN vs US phones is I get better reception with the US version even though the CHN supports all of TMO bands.
It's costs, it's probably cheaper over there, the price increase for 6gb/128gb in the UK would make the S8+ nearly 1000 quid!!!!!
Don't know what's going on... I'm in China and will hopefully grab one once they are up for sale... Worries me that there are no pre orders yet. Also... Needs to have an exact HK variant. If they aren't the same model as the HK variant, then I won't be able to exchange firmware, and then there is no way I will put myself through the torture of a phone without Google.NO WAY! I guess I'd wait until summer to pick up the 4gb version in my home country... Probably the metaphorical smoke will have cleared by then and things will have calmed down a bit to see what battery life is like. Worried I'll purchase another battery lemon like what happened to my 6p... Man, that battery died in a year and a bit.
Tangopro said:
Ouch! Why will there be a difference?
"China to Get High-End Version of Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM & 128GB ROM"
Could it be that the market has more competitive Phone choices?
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Chinese model = no warranty so thats a deal breaker for me
6GB vs 4GB RAM you probably wont notice the difference in real world use
You can buy a 128GB SD card for much less than the difference in RRP between world and chinese models
Finally will the chinese model support the LTE bands required for your region and carrier?
Too many unknowns for me
it my have a global modem that supports all bands (bar cdma in the sd 835). agree, you wont notice much of a difference between 4/6 gb...
Will 6gb affect battery life in a negative way? I still doubt this will happen, but nonetheless, don't mind investigating thoughts on this matter.
Things to remember if you get the CHN version is no warranty, stuck on CHN ROM unless you root and install a different ROM and possible no wifi calling if your US carrier supports it.
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it my have a global modem that supports all bands (bar cdma in the sd 835). agree, you wont notice much of a difference between 4/6 gb...
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Things to remember if you get the CHN version is no warranty, stuck on CHN ROM unless you root and install a different ROM and possible no wifi calling if your US carrier supports it.
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I agree that being stuck on CHN firmware is a horror show if you are not a Mandarin/Chinese language user.
From another perspective, so long as there is a HK firmware for SAME model number, you should be able to change firmware to HK firmware from CHN Firmware using ODIN. Pretty simple process. I have managed to do this on several Samsung phones no worries. Only with the C7 (2016) did I recently come across some weirdness that was solved by an XDA member who prescribed a relatively painless ordering of ODIN processes.
However, Samsung used to have weird China only models that did not have a HK firmware variant... which completely sucked - My Note 4, SN-9108v was a horrible experience due to this firmware and model isolation practice. Also, there are some phones that are only sold in China and only come again with Chinese Firmware (possibly the C9 pro (2017) is an example - can't remember). If Samsung have chosen the same isolationist Chinese model practice for s8, then avoid it like the plague... You'll be buying into a joyless and expensive sans google experience that will only be tolerable with decent Mandarin skills to enjoy the plethora of Chinese app store equivalents to google.
At this stage, I cannot find any reliable links to Chinese and HK model numbers. Perhaps a Chinese based Mandarin XDA user can clarify. I am very interested in preordering this mythical Chinese s8+, but I am not in the industry and am a little time poor in terms of being able to research this. There certainly seems to be very little reputable information (in English) or easily found reputable information (via translate) that details exactly when or how pre-orders in China or HK will operate. Just unsubstantiated re-reported links and news stories about the 6Gb variant and blah blah blah.
Would be really great to hear from someone legitimately more informed than me in this matter.
Cheers!
http://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-s8-plus-g955/SM-G955NZKESKO/
128gb available in Korea ... interesting. Fingers crossed this type of deal pops up in China (and importantly, HK).
SM-G955NZKESKO/
That is because China has many local brands provide adequate device with only one third price. If you can maximum your specks. You will fail there!
Nope. I'm off the Sammy train. Thinking Xperia xz premium
Read an article that says Samsung is mulling over bringing the 6Gb to the US and other markets besides China / Korea. If this happens I would like to know who made the original not to release in other markets so I can kick then in the nuts.
I don't care if it is 4GB or 6. Just so long as it is NOT Snapdragon. Speed tests seem to already be confirming that the typical $#!++y ram management is still present in the Snapdragon S8 and S8+ phones. Also; If I were to buy the Snapdragon model, I would not be able to activate mobile hot spot on Cricket. You can with International phones (Exynos).
I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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I have 6gb ram 955N and battery is fine ^^
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http://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-s8-plus-g955/SM-G955NZKESKO/
128gb available in Korea ... interesting. Fingers crossed this type of deal pops up in China (and importantly, HK).
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oh man reading the specs this has all global LTE bands activated including the infamous European BAND 20 that most Asian variants have traditionally not supported!
may get my korean mate to buy over there and bring over. the korean rom will have english as an option as well as play store
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I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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oh man reading the specs this has all global LTE bands activated including the infamous European BAND 20 that most Asian variants have traditionally not supported!
may get my korean mate to buy over there and bring over. the korean rom will have english as an option as well as play store
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Yes, if you know an app which can see band avaible, i could see you.
For the GPS : yes it do glonass/beido/ and galileo ^^
Fast phone.
androidrouen said:
Yes, if you know an app which can see band avaible, i could see you.
For the GPS : yes it do glonass/beido/ and galileo ^^
Fast phone.
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that link lists all the supported bands under spec. goggle translate teh page on chrome and go down to full specs
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I'm wonderin when the LTE version will be available? I'm here in Asia and this is the only tablet worth buying for me right now for college purposes. (and other stuff)
I imagine we will not get word about those till at least Oct 10th.
I would be interested to know the release date for the LTE model as well...no announcements out there at all.
According to this article, there's been no mention of support for US LTE bands. Engadget doesn't always have the most accurate Android info, though.
engadget.com/2013/09/04/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-hands-on/
(Sorry, going to have to copy and paste, can't post links yet)
Didn't notice the Asia bit in the OP, woops.
Will the LTE version also have wifi ?
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Will the LTE version also have wifi ?
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Yes, of course
shall i be concerned about UNLOCK feature with the 3G model of the new note 10.1
or it wont matter. since mostly i will get it from abroad
3G here was supporting older model of note 10.1 well
I saw the 32 GB Black at my local BestBuy but I'm not going to buy it until I know about the LTE one.
If the price is the same, and it should be if I buy it outright/unlocked, no contract, I get extra connectivity (LTE, just swap in the SIM from my phone whenever) and a SnapDragon processor which is more likely to get root and custom ROMS, why wouldn't I pick it up.
I also want to see if any custom ROM development happens on the WIFI Exynos version... but I don't see it.
Too many questions up in the air for me to pull the trigger... but I am certain I want the 10.1 2014.
Any comments? Am I batty to be concerned by these issues?
-Lox
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I saw the 32 GB Black at my local BestBuy but I'm not going to buy it until I know about the LTE one.
If the price is the same, and it should be if I buy it outright/unlocked, no contract, I get extra connectivity (LTE, just swap in the SIM from my phone whenever) and a SnapDragon processor which is more likely to get root and custom ROMS, why wouldn't I pick it up.
I also want to see if any custom ROM development happens on the WIFI Exynos version... but I don't see it.
Too many questions up in the air for me to pull the trigger... but I am certain I want the 10.1 2014.
Any comments? Am I batty to be concerned by these issues?
-Lox
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The price won't be the same.. be logic.. And samsung already released the codes for the exynos 5420 and this very encouraging you know.. Developpers now can create custom roms and stuff.. I think that a lot of people will have the wifi version (simply because we can tether connection from ou mobiles) and therefor there will be custom roms, root and more stuff created for the exynos version
Educate me on the reasons why the cellphone carriers will price unlocked LTE higher than the wifi version?
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The price won't be the same.. be logic.. And samsung already released the codes for the exynos 5420 and this very encouraging you know.. Developpers now can create custom roms and stuff.. I think that a lot of people will have the wifi version (simply because we can tether connection from ou mobiles) and therefor there will be custom roms, root and more stuff created for the exynos version
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Educate me on the reasons why the cellphone carriers will price unlocked LTE higher than the wifi version?
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you can simply go and compar with other tablets: you'll see that the 3G or 4G version costs always more than a wifi only version. This goes for samsung or apple..
And the prices for the 4g version have already been released in some countries in europe and the 16gb wifi only version costs 550 euros and the 4G+wifi 16gb version costs 670 euros.. So you can expect that there will be a price diference also in the US between both models
Just pre-ordered mine and got the answer it would be delivered November 15th...
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Just pre-ordered mine and got the answer it would be delivered November 15th...
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Where you pre-ordered ?
Iluhan said:
Where you pre-ordered ?
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A Danish site called proshop.
Sendt fra min GT-I9505 med Tapatalk
I wonder why there's no info on US LTE yet
@CalInTheZone:
What is the difference in price between the comparable WIFI and LTE tablets?
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I wonder why there's no info on US LTE yet
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I found LTE unlocked model With snapdragon for 800$ on popular electronics webpage based in Chicago Tax free and free shipping .
another one that has it is Overseas electronics company but they charge more than 900$
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@CalInTheZone:
What is the difference in price between the comparable WIFI and LTE tablets?
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WiFi: 4700,- DKR and 4G: 5500,- DKR
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WiFi: 4700,- DKR and 4G: 5500,- DKR
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So... ~15% more. That may be worth it for LTE and having a Snapdragon processor that dev's will write ROMs for.
Still no ROMs for the Exynos.
Note3 is Snap Dragon.
All the 10.1 2014 WIFI tablets are going to get left out in the cold... I'm afraid.
-Lox
I'm interested in the LTE model for the Snapdragon 800. Seems to have better GPU performance so that translates to a better user experience. Note 12.2 with Snapdragon 800 would be perfect.
Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
This has been answer in our Q&A thread. Please take a look at recent discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/wait-compatible-ascend-mate-7-buy-t2899404
Forum member from Switzerland has reported that the Chinese TL10 works flawlessly and we will hear more news from EU user next week.:fingers-crossed:
And we highly recommend 3 GB RAM, or the premium version. You will notice significant difference when opening multiple APPS.
We will post a root instruction for xda community early next week so that it will be a more fun machine to have.
getmobilephone said:
This has been answer in our Q&A thread. Please take a look at recent discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/wait-compatible-ascend-mate-7-buy-t2899404
Forum member from Switzerland has reported that the Chinese TL10 works flawlessly and we will hear more news from EU user next week.:fingers-crossed:
And we highly recommend 3 GB RAM, or the premium version. You will notice significant difference when opening multiple APPS.
We will post a root instruction for xda community early next week so that it will be a more fun machine to have.
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Thanks for the answer but I already read theses threads.
But I can't find on these that the Chinese version got all band, not just one or two
Thanks for the help
It may work...
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Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
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Hello!
I just came back from a trip to China. Bought my Mate 7 in Shanghai. Its the MT7-UL00 Version.
At the shop they told me it should work in Switzerland. They even installed the Play Store for me (good service).
At the Stop Over in Dubai I had no LTE. So I was a little worried. Now in Switzerland it looks like I have same LTE coverage like I had bevor with my LG G3.
Hope this helps you.
The Kitano
MT7-TL10 Chinese -> European
I just got af Gold Mate 7 (3 bg/32 rom) from China - MT7-TL10.
Its a Chinese version, with Chines text i a few palces (even i chosed Denmark for language) but its also without google or anything - and im living in Europe.
So my question is, how do I get the international version af the software on this phone so I can use it like a normal phone here in Europe?
I would be really thankfull for any help and guidance regarding this issue.
Thank you!
Yep i dreaming of my futur AM7 but for no problem at all like the guaranty, i prefer wait till the european version launch officially. i'm so disappointed the gold version will not sold in europe, oh well the grey/black model will be fine too ^^
the official launch in france will be soon around 12 of november.
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Yep i dreaming of my futur AM7 but for no problem at all like the guaranty, i prefer wait till the european version launch officially. i'm so disappointed the gold version will not sold in europe, oh well the grey/black model will be fine too ^^
the official launch in france will be soon around 12 of november.
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You can already buy at amazon.fr, can't you?
they've been selling it since last week. and they already discounted by 20euro in white version yesterday. (looks like it's back to normal price though)
You can buy it EUR 455.70 at amazon.fr now. price dropping so fast. nobody's buying it?
I bought mine on amazon.fr but I have not yet received
n1ck0 said:
Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
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I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
I want to unlock the 4g lte though like the TL09 versions so i cud see how fast the cat6 realli is. Regardless though, this phone is pretty fast to even be in 3g mode.
Can you buy the 3gb ram version from amazon fr?
Also how does warranty work on amazon fr? I live in the uk.
Thanks
riz157 said:
Can you buy the 3gb ram version from amazon fr?
Also how does warranty work on amazon fr? I live in the uk.
Thanks
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It's amazon so warranty usually good if you buy from them. 3gb ram 2gb of ram wont matter much with the Chipset they are using. Feel confident that 2gb will be enough after all the video tests I have seen on YouTube. The 3gb is only the Chinese model which I would not purchase. Get the European model much safer bet.
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It's amazon so warranty usually good if you buy from them. 3gb ram 2gb of ram wont matter much with the Chipset they are using. Feel confident that 2gb will be enough after all the video tests I have seen on YouTube. The 3gb is only the Chinese model which I would not purchase. Get the European model much safer bet.
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Thanks will keep that in mind.
I had lg g3 which fustrated the hell out of him, even though it had 3gb ram the thing was awful.
AndroiderTL10 said:
I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
Hey, I have my MT7 brought over from China. I am using it in the Czech Republic on Vodafone network. I can only get 2G connectivity. No 3G or LTE. in the Settings/Roaming Settings, it identifies my SIM card as "2G" only, and I cannot switch on 4G. I have a brand new nano SIM that should work with our local LTE.
My MT7 model MT7-CL00, build number MT7-CL00V100R001C92B120SP07
Any ideas?
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radecek1977 said:
AndroiderTL10 said:
I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
Hey, I have my MT7 brought over from China. I am using it in the Czech Republic on Vodafone network. I can only get 2G connectivity. No 3G or LTE. in the Settings/Roaming Settings, it identifies my SIM card as "2G" only, and I cannot switch on 4G. I have a brand new nano SIM that should work with our local LTE.
My MT7 model MT7-CL00, build number MT7-CL00V100R001C92B120SP07
Any ideas?
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You should inquiry before purchasing. The CL00 version, aka China TeleCom version, only recognizes their specific SIM, otherwise, locked at GSM only. Choose a reputable seller in the future.
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radecek1977 said:
You should inquiry before purchasing. The CL00 version, aka China TeleCom version, only recognizes their specific SIM, otherwise, locked at GSM only. Choose a reputable seller in the future.
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Yeah I got this as a little gimmick to play with., but it certainly is a disappointment.
Do you think the CL00 version can be loaded with TL10 firmware? I can see CL00 and TL10 differ dramatically in the network and data connectivity support, and TL10 is what I need.
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radecek1977 said:
getmobilephone said:
Yeah I got this as a little gimmick to play with., but it certainly is a disappointment.
Do you think the CL00 version can be loaded with TL10 firmware? I can see CL00 and TL10 differ dramatically in the network and data connectivity support, and TL10 is what I need.
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No. There is no way to unlock the SIM and flashing TL10 ROM will not work either. In addition, CL00 uses an additional chip for CDMA2000, which consumes more batteries (only 2/3 of battery life vs. other versions, stated by HUAWEI's website). If you consider TL10, we have Gold color version in stock.
We cannot help you on this version any more.
Good luck!
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have smae issue indeed ... nothing works with me i don,t thin you can,t convert it
We know for sure that there is two different version of the Axon 7, the one sold in North America and the one sold in Europe (and china ?), respectively named A2017U & A2017G.
It would be great to compare the hardware of both these version to see if there is any differences (besides network bands and software) or if they are the same except in name.
Can two persons with the two variants be kind enough to provide AIDA64 screenshots of the importants category listed in AIDA64 ?
Thanks !
The hardware of USA and EU are exactly the same, its just the software which is different.
rikin93 said:
The hardware of USA and EU are exactly the same, its just the software which is different.
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Or so they say... A quick comparison doesn't cost much more than a few minutes .
rikin93 said:
The hardware of USA and EU are exactly the same, its just the software which is different.
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I thought I read that there was a least a difference in the modem regarding band support. I could be wrong.
rikin93 said:
The hardware of USA and EU are exactly the same, its just the software which is different.
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Different LTE Bands.
A2017 (Chinese Model): LTE 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
A2017G (European Model): LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/19/20/28/38/40/41
A2017U (North America): LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/29/30/25/26/41
The US Homepage say Bluetooth 4.2 on the Germany Page Stand only 4.1. Could it be? Two different Version of Bluetooth?
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Southerncrosser said:
The US Homepage say Bluetooth 4.2 on the Germany Page Stand only 4.1. Could it be? Two different Version of Bluetooth?
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using XDA Free mobile app
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We don't know for sure, that's why i asked for some Aida64 screen .
You can not see The Bluetooth Version on Aida. I have tried.
Aida say 3100mah accu in EUVersion. On US Version is the Accu 3250mah
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My US version in aida64 shows 3140 mah
Is it not A 3250 mah battery in the axon 7?
My A2017 (Chinese) 4gb 128gb version has a 3100mAh battery capacity reported by Android but a 3140mAh battery capacity by database...
CPU - Qualcomm msm8996
RAM - 4gb LPDDR4
Internal Storage - 110.11Gb
Android - 6.0.1
Build ID - ZTE/A2017V1.0.0B07
Kernel Architecture - armv8I
Not sure how this may help or be useful but its out there for someones use if needed....
China gets 2 more versions while the rest of the world gets one. Why brag about it being designed in the US and keep all the good **** in China?
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China gets 2 more versions while the rest of the world gets one. Why brag about it being designed in the US and keep all the good **** in China?
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Two more versions? Did they announce another model? I thought there was only the 64/4 (which is available worldwide) and 128/6 (which ZTE says they will eventually bring to the USA).
xtermmin said:
Two more versions? Did they announce another model? I thought there was only the 64/4 (which is available worldwide) and 128/6 (which ZTE says they will eventually bring to the USA).
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The ZTE Axon 7 Mini.
OmniversalSoundstage said:
The ZTE Axon 7 Mini.
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No. That was leaked on Mediamarkt germany website.
xtermmin said:
Two more versions? Did they announce another model? I thought there was only the 64/4 (which is available worldwide) and 128/6 (which ZTE says they will eventually bring to the USA).
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He meant the 4/128gb version.
xtermmin said:
Different LTE Bands.
A2017 (Chinese Model): LTE 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
A2017G (European Model): LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/19/20/28/38/40/41
A2017U (North America): LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/29/30/25/26/41
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Depending on how they did the antenna and power amplifier design, they could still be the same exact HW. The 820 SoC supports all those bands, so at some level, it's just programming the chipset and ROM on which to allow.
Yaya444 said:
My US version in aida64 shows 3140 mah
Is it not A 3250 mah battery in the axon 7?
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This was talked about a little in the webinar. They had been marketing 3140, but when they talked to the battery manufacturer, they had actually done 3250 mAh so they changed the marketing material to match. Since the Chinese phones were already released at that point, I'd be willing to bet there is some piece of code somewhere in there reporting the old values rather than the new values. Or ZTE or the battery manufacturer got something wrong.
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Depending on how they did the antenna and power amplifier design, they could still be the same exact HW. The 820 SoC supports all those bands, so at some level, it's just programming the chipset and ROM on which to allow.
This was talked about a little in the webinar. They had been marketing 3140, but when they talked to the battery manufacturer, they had actually done 3250 mAh so they changed the marketing material to match. Since the Chinese phones were already released at that point, I'd be willing to bet there is some piece of code somewhere in there reporting the old values rather than the new values. Or ZTE or the battery manufacturer got something wrong.
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Thanks for the information.
I'm just trying to figure out when the 6GB 128GB model gone hit the US
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Two more versions? Did they announce another model? I thought there was only the 64/4 (which is available worldwide) and 128/6 (which ZTE says they will eventually bring to the USA).
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They also have a 128GB/4GB version.
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They also have a 128GB/4GB version.
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I have the 4gb RAM, 128gb ROM version. It is Chinese but seems to work fine here in Australia...
Funnily enough, some of the problems complained about by the US owners aren't present on the Chinese version with no problems on English translations ( I have language set to English).
Camera has NEVER had a problem and build quality is fantastic with no problems.
It has slight differences in appearance, the major being the gold US version I've seen seems to have white antenna bars on back and headphone jack has a white collar, mine has slightly lighter gold bars for the antenna and goes gold to black interior for the headphone jack.
Other than a few apps that I can't seem to get from the playstore (starts to download and the playstore up and closes) there doesn't seem to be much other difference...
Firmware version is B07 and model is A2017...
Oh, and on Antutu Benchmark I get around 142000 just edging out One Plus 3 for top position, if benchmarks mean anything to you...
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I have the 4gb RAM, 128gb ROM version. It is Chinese but seems to work fine here in Australia...
Funnily enough, some of the problems complained about by the US owners aren't present on the Chinese version with no problems on English translations ( I have language set to English).
Camera has NEVER had a problem and build quality is fantastic with no problems.
It has slight differences in appearance, the major being the gold US version I've seen seems to have white antenna bars on back and headphone jack has a white collar, mine has slightly lighter gold bars for the antenna and goes gold to black interior for the headphone jack.
Other than a few apps that I can't seem to get from the playstore (starts to download and the playstore up and closes) there doesn't seem to be much other difference...
Firmware version is B07 and model is A2017...
Oh, and on Antutu Benchmark I get around 142000 just edging out One Plus 3 for top position, if benchmarks mean anything to you...
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It doesn't say "Designed in the USA" does it?
Like the title says, what's the best place to buy unlocked international phones in US.
I also might have an option to buy while traveling to UK and looking for suggestions.
Will be using it on AT&T.
thanks!
The US has Snapdragon, the UK has Exynos
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The US has Snapdragon, the UK has Exynos
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thanks for the eye opener, now back to my question "Best place to buy Exynos version in US"
In the past, I've had the best success with well rated ebay resellers. Having ebay back your purchase is important because they are so buyer centric. If there are any issues at all, they will force paypal to refund your money. The only downside to this, is that you'll likely pay a little more - especially if you purchase right at release time.
Wonda Mobile and Expansys are also great/reputable online resellers that will surely sell the S8 and S8+. You'll pay closer to the retail price of the device (no ebay fees, price gouging, etc) and their return policies are good. That said, YOU will pay return fees back to Korea if there are issues and you're 100% at their discretion for returns/replacements/restocking fees, etc.
Hope this helps.
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thanks for the eye opener, now back to my question "Best place to buy Exynos version in US"
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I got my Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) on Amazon and was going to get the NOTE 7 EXYNOS from https://www.bhphotovideo.com/
They are a good retailer - I am hoping we can get preorder from them - (they did offer a preorder for the NOTE but it never happened because batteries started exploding before the NOTE 7 Was released.
Silly question - but why would one prefer the Exynos version over the Snapdragon? Is there a noticeable difference in performance, or some other factor?
From what I hear, the performance on the Exynos variant is better than the Snapdragon variant. Also, the SnapDragon variant has been bootloader locked as of lately (Note 7, S7, and S7 Edge) while the Exynos variants have been unlocked.
So I pre-ordered a sim unlocked s8+ through samsung's UK site. not sure if they will ship to US though
Greetings from Canada,
Would anyone know which "soc" goes in the Canadian variant?
Thank you.
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Silly question - but why would one prefer the Exynos version over the Snapdragon? Is there a noticeable difference in performance, or some other factor?
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thats so naive from you..see the galaxy s7 exynos variant was unlock the past year where the s7 820 was not, what that means ?
basically means that you was not able to root any western device , but only exynos variant can... and root a device is crucial to open a lot of possibilitys like overclock
and responding to the question of this guy, basically in every latin country on america you can find the exynos variant, which is kind a weird cosidering that allways all america used the qualcomm variant in the past , and because a lot of mexicans carriers dont have the culture of wait until the oficial release of the smartphone i will expect some people to buyit long before
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Greetings from Canada,
Would anyone know which "soc" goes in the Canadian variant?
Thank you.
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Canada is getting the snapdragon like the USA unfortunately.
Handtech and Clove are both reputable UK shops that many on this forum have used and recommend. Be aware if you're a first time buyer at either you may have to jump extra hoops to clear your credit card. This is normal and due to the high degree of fraud in international cell phone sales.
mocsab said:
I got my Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) on Amazon and was going to get the NOTE 7 EXYNOS from https://www.bhphotovideo.com/
They are a good retailer - I am hoping we can get preorder from them - (they did offer a preorder for the NOTE but it never happened because batteries started exploding before the NOTE 7 Was released.
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BH has it listed now, but just to notify when available. It has it listed as SM-G955. It doesn't say whether or not it is SD or exynos though.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._sm_g955_64gb_gry_galaxy_s8_sm_g955_64gb.html
I know with the international S7, Samsung Pay would not work in the US. Not too worried about that, but are there any other drawbacks? Will it work on all the LTE bands for AT&T?
I think for those that really want the international version, you'll have to find overseas sites that ship to the US or get them from a reputable seller on eBay such as never-msrp. The downside, as always, to importing is a higher price and generally, no warranty. I generally get quarterly trade where if anything happens and no one fixes the phone, they'll just give a full refund of the phone price. Anyways, just make sure it says SM 950F or SM 955F. The F are the true international unlocked models. Samsung pay may now work in the US. Check out the S7 threads to see how they got pay to work in the US
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BH has it listed now, but just to notify when available. It has it listed as SM-G955. It doesn't say whether or not it is SD or exynos though.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._sm_g955_64gb_gry_galaxy_s8_sm_g955_64gb.html
I know with the international S7, Samsung Pay would not work in the US. Not too worried about that, but are there any other drawbacks? Will it work on all the LTE bands for AT&T?
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The s7 had all AT&T and tmobile bands. Volte didn't work and wifi calling also didn't work on tmobile tho even though the s7 had band 12. It just would not connect. I now have att so that's no longer a concern with me
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Ordered from SamsungUK, they didnt reject my US address, so we will see what happens.
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So I pre-ordered a sim unlocked s8+ through samsung's UK site. not sure if they will ship to US though
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I contacted the UK samsung web page and the sim free version still need to make a 5 minut call in the uk first to be truly unlocked, as it has region locked.
Check out clove UK. They have the cheapest pricing for the S8 and the s8+ and you get the international model. Picking mine up Soon
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So I pre-ordered a sim unlocked s8+ through samsung's UK site. not sure if they will ship to US though
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You don't want them to ship it. The EU phones have region lock. To use a SIM from a country different from the phone's selling country you have to make a 5 minute call on a SIM native to the selling country on a network native to the selling country. That's why all the grey market phones on eBay are mostly from Asia.
Here's an article on it.
http://www.androidcentral.com/your-...8e43&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
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BH has it listed now, but just to notify when available. It has it listed as SM-G955. It doesn't say whether or not it is SD or exynos though.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._sm_g955_64gb_gry_galaxy_s8_sm_g955_64gb.html
I know with the international S7, Samsung Pay would not work in the US. Not too worried about that, but are there any other drawbacks? Will it work on all the LTE bands for AT&T?
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LTE on ATT works fine on the International Varients - the only thing missing is WIFI Calling and VOLTE - if those are big deals for you, yoiu need to stick with an ATT Phone. I haven't missed them - LTE speeds for me have always been great - I don't need WIFI Calling - and HD VOICE, well, I am not so sure it is everythign it is cracked up to be - call quality for me has been very good - so I personally am not missing anything.
I have wondered for a while if the snapdragon model in the US isn't something paid for by the NSA to be a the only US variant offered. Like more backdoors, etc built in to the Snapdragon variant. Unless there is some other obvious reason why the US gets only the Snapdragon variant.
It really doesn't matter for daily usable or noticeable performance however. Bet you'd never be able to tell which variant you were using if they were set up the same and you didn't check in the settings to cheat to see which variant it was.
You can ask your questions about your ZenFone AR here.
Any questions about:software,hardware,system updates and etc.
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So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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You must buy ww or Europe rom Version.
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Will any of the unlocked version work on Verizon?
I've been looking for complete specs... will any of the unlocked versions of this phone work on Verizon?
Make 8 GB Zenfone AR work on Verizon?
Hyacin said:
So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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I am also super interested in the ability get an 8 GB version working on Verizon. If someone knows for sure a flash would get the correct bands and it's not a hardware issue, that would be terrific.
Buying the 8/256GB RAM/storage version in Europe.
At the moment I am only able to find this phone available for purchase in Sweden with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of internal storage. Does anyone know if a version with the highest specs will be available in the future? Why aren't the phone available with all options in every country? Where can I go to get a version with better specs?
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I am also super interested in the ability get an 8 GB version working on Verizon. If someone knows for sure a flash would get the correct bands and it's not a hardware issue, that would be terrific.
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Bought my Verizon one yesterday. Based on the unlocked one I briefly got to fondle it does look to be a hardware limit.
The unlocked ones will not work on Verizon Sprint says in specs on Amazon website
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The Verizon one seems good so far just hope we can get some development for it.
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Because Amazon website has misinformation.
Well, I bit the bullet and just picked mine up. Haven't done anything to it yet but plug it in. Battery was at 15% so I need to let it charge first. Hate saying goodbye to root though....
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The Amazon or global one is GSM network Verizon and Sprint use CDMA networks . So the info on their site is correct.
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I've been looking for complete specs... will any of the unlocked versions of this phone work on Verizon?
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From my testing, the unlocked version will pick up Verizon LTE bands but calls fail since there is no VoLTE option on the phone. Did not pick up any of their 3G signals, and their system would not accept my IMEI as a compatible device. So it may work if you can convince Verizon to add the phone to their system, which is unlikely since they already have their own version.
FWIW I also tried it with a Sprint SIM, but got no service whatsoever and their system would not accept the IMEI. Thew in a Cricket/AT&T SIM and the phone worked as expected.
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Well, I bit the bullet and just picked mine up. Haven't done anything to it yet but plug it in. Battery was at 15% so I need to let it charge first. Hate saying goodbye to root though....
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I doubt you will miss it. The phone is beast enough. Enjoy it!
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I doubt you will miss it. The phone is beast enough. Enjoy it!
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I miss the high score I've built up in Klondike for the last 7 years and I miss all the notes I had in my Memo app and I definitely miss having Kernel options, because I'm not impressed with battery life at this point, but yeah, it's a beast. The screen is amazing. Like nothing I've ever seen before. The camera lives up to advertised and it's super fast.
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From my testing, the unlocked version will pick up Verizon LTE bands but calls fail since there is no VoLTE option on the phone. Did not pick up any of their 3G signals, and their system would not accept my IMEI as a compatible device. So it may work if you can convince Verizon to add the phone to their system, which is unlikely since they already have their own version.
FWIW I also tried it with a Sprint SIM, but got no service whatsoever and their system would not accept the IMEI. Thew in a Cricket/AT&T SIM and the phone worked as expected.
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Which LTE Bands are you getting?
I'm on T-Mobile,seems we only have Band 2 support on the WW unlocked 8GB/128 GB Model.
I've already initiated a return w/the e-Bay seller,more than likely,it's going back tomorrow.
I'd been OK with Bands 2 & 4,which are listed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73425969&postcount=2
The fact that they let this .pdf out & it's not even accurate speaks volumes for North American support:Tone-Deaf would be a compliment...............
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Which LTE Bands are you getting?
I'm on T-Mobile,seems we only have Band 2 support on the WW unlocked 8GB/128 GB Model.
I've already initiated a return w/the e-Bay seller,more than likely,it's going back tomorrow.
I'd been OK with Bands 2 & 4,which are listed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73425969&postcount=2
The fact that they let this .pdf out & it's not even accurate speaks volumes for North American support:Tone-Deaf would be a compliment...............
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I was able to get service on 4 and 13 for Verizon, and 2 and 12 for Cricket/AT&T. It may support more, but I'm not aware of any apps that will let me scan for service on all bands. LTE Discovery mentioned a "Potential eCSFB issue" with the Verizon SIM which is likely because there was no CDMA support.
Fun fact... apparently the phone supports XLTE with Verizon, which led to a rather depressing speed test compared to my service with Cricket.
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I was able to get service on 4 and 13 for Verizon, and 2 and 12 for Cricket/AT&T. It may support more, but I'm not aware of any apps that will let me scan for service on all bands. LTE Discovery mentioned a "Potential eCSFB issue" with the Verizon SIM which is likely because there was no CDMA support.
Fun fact... apparently the phone supports XLTE with Verizon, which led to a rather depressing speed test compared to my service with Cricket.
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Are your results with the VZW model,or,the unlocked model?
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Are your results with the VZW model,or,the unlocked model?
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These are from the Unlocked 8GB/128GB model from Amazon running the WW firmware.
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These are from the Unlocked 8GB/128GB model from Amazon running the WW firmware.
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THX!,just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same model phone.
I'm gonna give it one more day,get around town & see if the connectivity is OK.
If spotty (w/Band 2 only) ,I'm sending it back,or,selling it on Swappa.
Outside of sparse LTE Band support,it's a nice phone,I really don't wanna part w/it so soon after getting it.
Haven't tried out the AR/VR Capabilities yet,but,I do like the display & the speaker quality/loudness.
TBH,I'm covered in WI-FI Most of the time,but,I did expect better LTE Band support nevertheless,especially for a DualSIM/Unlocked phone.
The fact that it's being sold on Amazon as-is seems to be Asus shooting themselves in the foot,certainly there'll be quite a few returns,once people find out connectivity is less than ideal for an unlocked phone,one that is marketed to the US/North America.
Update on mine, battery life is getting better now as the phone settles in. NOT impressed with Data though. I was in the country yesterday, my ASUS Zenpad had 2 bars of 4G and the Zenfone was in roam. Everything else is great, and living without root is bearable, I guess. Fortunately, my 7 year high score on Klondike is an X-Box Live/Google Play game and the score were carried over from the X Box cloud. I know that sounds silly but 7 years over multiple devices is a long time to build up a high score and was a major stress point going to a locked down device