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Hi !
I have an Xperia S which is dead now :crying: and am looking for a new phone at the moment.
Originally, I was looking at the Moto G 16gb but its got a very bad camera and lack of upgradable storage. So, I'm wondering whether the SP have a good camera or not !
BTW, what about the 4.4 availability ?
Is there any stable 4.4 custom ROM for SP ?
Sp is a good phone. Has a great camera. And feels premium to hold. In fact when my friend got it, I liked it so much that I sold my Galaxy s4 and bought an xperia z. Hope this helps.
Plus Sony makes camera modules for a lot of other manufacturers like Apple iPhones. Samsung galaxy series. So u almost always get a. Good camera with a mid range and higher sony phones
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toksick said:
Sp is a good phone. Has a great camera. And feels premium to hold. In fact when my friend got it, I liked it so much that I sold my Galaxy s4 and bought an xperia z. Hope this helps.
Plus Sony makes camera modules for a lot of other manufacturers like Apple iPhones. Samsung galaxy series. So u almost always get a. Good camera with a mid range and higher sony phones
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Yeah but I read a review saying that the 8 mp camera of the Xperia SP is very poor compared to that of the Xperia L.
I work in a machine design company and I have to take a lot of photos and videos of our products for making quick demos and filing the records. That implies I need a decent camera phone.
The Xperia S and the Samsung Wave I had were good performers in that regard.
I would be checking out the Xperia SP and the Galaxy S4 Mini and may be some LG phones today at this new shopping mall that opened in my city. If I'm not happy, I'll be going for the Moto G.
Its gonna be a good night
For the price you'd be hard pushed to beat the Moto G -- at only £120 sim free for the 8GB model it's an absolute bargain, but it's also a solid performer and has already been updated to 4.4.
Honestly speaking, you'd have to be getting a very good deal to make buying an Xperia SP now a good choice as it's already a year old and even at best would only be officially supported for another six months, which means that bug fixes and other software updates will dry up soon.
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Yeah but I read a review saying that the 8 mp camera of the Xperia SP is very poor compared to that of the Xperia L.
I work in a machine design company and I have to take a lot of photos and videos of our products for making quick demos and filing the records. That implies I need a decent camera phone.
The Xperia S and the Samsung Wave I had were good performers in that regard.
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if you need a good camera, why not go for the Z1 or Z1 compact?
Xperia SP's camera is a huge disappointment, if that's a big thing for you, looks elsewhere. I read that GS4 mini's camera is pretty good (though, it's only 5mpx, if I recall). Where XSP shines is in it's processing power, since it has a decent processor and Adreno 320 GPU, which GS4 mini lacks. However, the lack of KitKat and 1GB of RAM make the Xperia SP hard to recommend.
You should also check Xperia ZR, where I live, it is just $10-$15dls more expensive than Xperia SP. xperia ZR is water-proof and has a 13MPX with a Quad-Core processor.
Xperia Sp camera its no so good. It you want a good camera phone buy a lumia 920/925 or a Galaxy s3 it you want android.
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x.marX said:
I would be checking out the Xperia SP and the Galaxy S4 Mini and may be some LG phones today at this new shopping mall that opened in my city. If I'm not happy, I'll be going for the Moto G.
Its gonna be a good night
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Didn't happen, they closed their shop early coz its the weekend
MagicMagicD said:
For the price you'd be hard pushed to beat the Moto G -- at only £120 sim free for the 8GB model it's an absolute bargain, but it's also a solid performer and has already been updated to 4.4.
Honestly speaking, you'd have to be getting a very good deal to make buying an Xperia SP now a good choice as it's already a year old and even at best would only be officially supported for another six months, which means that bug fixes and other software updates will dry up soon.
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I'm from India and I'm getting the Xperia SP for ~300 USD (18000 INR) and yeah the Moto G 16 GB is available here for ~233 USD.
As for updates, I don't care as long as there is custom ROMs available.
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if you need a good camera, why not go for the Z1 or Z1 compact?
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wiidbzxt said:
Xperia SP's camera is a huge disappointment, if that's a big thing for you, looks elsewhere. I read that GS4 mini's camera is pretty good (though, it's only 5mpx, if I recall). Where XSP shines is in it's processing power, since it has a decent processor and Adreno 320 GPU, which GS4 mini lacks. However, the lack of KitKat and 1GB of RAM make the Xperia SP hard to recommend.
You should also check Xperia ZR, where I live, it is just $10-$15dls more expensive than Xperia SP. xperia ZR is water-proof and has a 13MPX with a Quad-Core processor.
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S4 Mini have a 8 mp camera as well.
Xperia ZR was actually my first target but its expensive here (~430 USD).
Darth_Xardas said:
Xperia Sp camera its no so good. It you want a good camera phone buy a lumia 920/925 or a Galaxy s3 it you want android.
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After dropping the ZR from my list, I thought about getting the S3 but I hear its battery backup is not that great and yeah, I hate the rounded design Samsung uses. I think their Bada phones look much much better.
BTW, there are some rumers about the Xperia M2 and Xperia G being priced really low to compete with the Moto G. I wonder how low Sony would go in pricing them !
Xperia SP's camera is so pathetic that I am sure Moto G's pics will be much better than SP's. The reason I bought SP is its processing power and awesome design.
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Xperia SP's camera is so pathetic that I am sure Moto G's pics will be much better than SP's. The reason I bought SP is its processing power and awesome design.
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Is it that bad ?
BTW, if mediatek guys were a bit more "open", the Huawei Ascend g700 would have been a great buy for me....great camera, lots of RAM, good IPS Lcd display etc. But,AFAIK, there is no custom ROMs or any other development for that phone because there is minimal support from mediatek for custom android development projects
You are concerned about SP camera but not about moto G camera? Haha. My friend has moto G, ant trust me, if you need (seems like that's your main priority) decent camera dont eve think about moto G. I have chosen SP over moto G and they both are about the same price.
Yet if you have doubts about SP camera, you can look into S3/S4mini (I considered those as options for me, but SP in overall seemed a better choice) or lumia 920 (I also considered this, but I need option too record my calls and WPs cant offer this yet L920 camera is amazing and I would assume price would be similar if its still available in sale).
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You are concerned about SP camera but not about moto G camera? Haha. My friend has moto G, ant trust me, if you need (seems like that's your main priority) decent camera dont eve think about moto G. I have chosen SP over moto G and they both are about the same price.
Yet if you have doubts about SP camera, you can look into S3/S4mini (I considered those as options for me, but SP in overall seemed a better choice) or lumia 920 (I also considered this, but I need option too record my calls and WPs cant offer this yet L920 camera is amazing and I would assume price would be similar if its still available in sale).
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I thought Moto G's camera was betther than SP's
The problem with Samsung is that their designs look so awful to me. Sony and HTC are much much better.
I'm an Opera Mini/Mobile/Desktop addict, can't use any other browser (lots of bookmarks and notes in the Opera in my account) and sadly, that rules WP devices like 920.
My options currently:
1. Blackberry Z10. If it has an android ROM, I would be going for this one but there isn't any AFAIK.
2. Upcoming Xperia G
3. Xperia SP
4. Xperia ZR
5. Samsung GS4 Mini
6. Samsung GS3
trust me
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I thought Moto G's camera was betther than SP's
The problem with Samsung is that their designs look so awful to me. Sony and HTC are much much better.
I'm an Opera Mini/Mobile/Desktop addict, can't use any other browser (lots of bookmarks and notes in the Opera in my account) and sadly, that rules WP devices like 920.
My options currently:
1. Blackberry Z10. If it has an android ROM, I would be going for this one but there isn't any AFAIK.
2. Upcoming Xperia G
3. Xperia SP
4. Xperia ZR
5. Samsung GS4 Mini
6. Samsung GS3
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Good to know that we are on the same track about Samesong. I hate them.
Z10 was an option for me too, but it was too little hardware for the the price for me, so I left it out yet it seems to work flawlessly in youtube videos. Also it is very sexy device and since 10.2.1 OS update it supports .apk files so basically its an android with Blackberry stuff. Why would you need a ROM for Z10? Just for sake of flashing something or there is serious reason?
Xperia G seems ok. Is it known when it will be available? Are you ready to wait (and possibly wait to find out if you would afford it when its released)?
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Is it that bad ?
BTW, if mediatek guys were a bit more "open", the Huawei Ascend g700 would have been a great buy for me....great camera, lots of RAM, good IPS Lcd display etc. But,AFAIK, there is no custom ROMs or any other development for that phone because there is minimal support from mediatek for custom android development projects
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If your deciding factor is based the camera, I suggest you check this out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5831&idPhone2=5364
As you can see, the SP may have a bigger pixel count but the image is over processed and has a lot of chromatic noise. If you need to zoom into a picture to look at small text, it may not be an ideal phone for you.
However, as an overall package (build quality, performance, battery life) it's probably the best phone in its price range.
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Good to know that we are on the same track about Samesong. I hate them.
Z10 was an option for me too, but it was too little hardware for the the price for me, so I left it out yet it seems to work flawlessly in youtube videos. Also it is very sexy device and since 10.2.1 OS update it supports .apk files so basically its an android with Blackberry stuff. Why would you need a ROM for Z10? Just for sake of flashing something or there is serious reason?
Xperia G seems ok. Is it known when it will be available? Are you ready to wait (and possibly wait to find out if you would afford it when its released)?
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Samesong :laugh: apt name :good:
Yes, I love the launchers for the Android and the look and feel of different ROMS like MIUI, CM etc. Its so amazing. I don't think the BB10 would support that much of customization
I'm waiting for the Xperia G..hope that I can afford it.
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If your deciding factor is based the camera, I suggest you check this out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5831&idPhone2=5364
As you can see, the SP may have a bigger pixel count but the image is over processed and has a lot of chromatic noise. If you need to zoom into a picture to look at small text, it may not be an ideal phone for you.
However, as an overall package (build quality, performance, battery life) it's probably the best phone in its price range.
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The Moto G and the SP look so awful, doesn't it ? Samsung S4 mini's pic look really nice and detailed even matching the iPhone 5.
@x.marX
Go get Moto X.
Period.
I don't know where you reside , but if you have got access to Moto Maker , get a customized Moto X. The camera and the processioning power is alot better than Xperia SP. But Xperia SP's design is far better than its competitors.
But since Xperia SP is getting old, I think Moto X would be a better choice regarding the future updates , camera and performance.
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@x.marX
Go get Moto X.
Period.
I don't know where you reside , but if you have got access to Moto Maker , get a customized Moto X. The camera and the processioning power is alot better than Xperia SP. But Xperia SP's design is far better than its competitors.
But since Xperia SP is getting old, I think Moto X would be a better choice regarding the future updates , camera and performance.
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We have Moto X here but the full fledged Moto Maker won't be ready any time soon.
I'm not a big fan of Moto X btw.
1. "Rounded design" - not my cup of tea
2. Memory not expandable - I have a lot of FLAC audio files
3. Non-removable battery
Only advantage of SP over G is the memocard and LTE.
If you can live without them get MotoG/16GB and you'll be OK.
I changed from Moto G to SP, but regret it...
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We have Moto X here but the full fledged Moto Maker won't be ready any time soon.
I'm not a big fan of Moto X btw.
1. "Rounded design" - not my cup of tea
2. Memory not expandable - I have a lot of FLAC audio files
3. Non-removable battery
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If possible try to save enough money for Xperia ZR or LG Optimus G. Since both the product are getting pretty old, you may have huge discounts on them.
The thing are importent to me is:
1.faster and powerfull phone (for games,emails,whatsapp,internet,apps).
2.Amazing camera.
3.Good battery.
4.A phone that will not "stock" in the future (i can change roms and more).
5.A good screen.
You need to get booth of them
meizu 4 5.36 inch, camera 2.0MP 20.7MP ,1920x1152,3100mAh
oneplus 5.5 inch camera 5.0 MP 13.0MP 1920x1080 ,3100mAh
I prefer to the meizu 4
oneplus
Have had mine almost a month and its a really nice phone.. Have owned Samsung's.. Nexus devices... And the one plus is tops.
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meizu 4 5.36 inch, camera 2.0MP 20.7MP ,1920x1152,3100mAh
oneplus 5.5 inch camera 5.0 MP 13.0MP 1920x1080 ,3100mAh
I prefer to the meizu 4
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The battery of meizu mx 4 is not good. So I still prefer OPO.
i had the oneplus one and now i have the mx4
opo has a lot of problems ( search google ) touch screen wont work properly ,sometimes i had those ghost touches and a lot of touch issues ,microphone stopped working suddenly ...
the big problem is the support of this company ,in one word ,a big joke , just bought the mx4 with 2 years warrant in my local country, not as fast as the opo but perfect touch screen and a lot of nice features , im very pleased with it more then the opo
Hello maybe i can give some feedback, i actually used an Oneplus One for over 3 months and then switched to meizu, i didnt experience any issues with my oneplus one unit, now yellow band nothing stupid ~
i switched to the mx4 for the following reasons, for my hands the oneplus one wasnt as comfortable to hold due to how the phone is build up, the rouned design of the meizu is way better for me to hold in one hand and do something on the go ~
camera hands down i always thought the oneplus one takes descent shots untill i got my mx4..really compared to the mx4 pictures the oens of the oneplus just look washed out noisy and lack detail (they are still good but just way worse if you compare it to the mx4)
i also prefer the mx4 deisgn..performance wise they are equal..i dont see any difference even tho i score 51k in antutu while i had "only" 46k with my oneplus one, same antutu version
the only downside for me is the battery life, i get easily through the day with my mx4 but i would say i had around 20% more battery with the oneplus one
but as long i get through the day i'm fine, i would never switch my mx4 for a oneplus one.
Yeah I have an MX4 and the camera is probably the best I have ever experienced on a mobile phone and I'm just not saying that. Amazing detail in the pictures, good colors and many options to get the shot you want. Only thing I miss is image stabilization.
I consider buying the MX4. The only thing that bothers me is the software. Will there be the official CyanogenMod support? Or can we expect an upgrade of their OS to Lollipop?
What also bothers me is that there is no subforum here on XDA. Why is that? Is there really no custom software for this phone?
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I consider buying the MX4. The only thing that bothers me is the software. Will there be the official CyanogenMod support? Or can we expect an upgrade of their OS to Lollipop?
What also bothers me is that there is no subforum here on XDA. Why is that? Is there really no custom software for this phone?
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I don't know about Cyanogen but Lollipop is confirmed for the MX4 but I don't know when it will be released. Basically there is no development for the phone. But I like the stock software personally. One of the reasons I bought the phone.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z4-unveiled-in-japan/
So according to those news, the camera on z4 will be the same as z3's with some small software improvements.This could be something big, raw or more manual settings perhaps even better whitebalance.I don't think raw functionality could be ported but atleast we'd have a better camera app if the news aren't lying.
What's your opinion on this? How satisfied are you with the current camera app we've got?
Not worth the upgrade. The 810 SoC is really bad on battery and has tons of issue with overheating. Plus smaller battery? No thanks. I'll stick with my Z2. Still performs flawless so far and looks the same as the Z4.
My upgrade is due in August i have been hoping it would be about the right time for the Z4 ,
But i just was hoping for better after all i did not bother with the z3 because it the same as i already have,,,,,
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Not worth the upgrade. The 810 SoC is really bad on battery and has tons of issue with overheating. Plus smaller battery? No thanks. I'll stick with my Z2. Still performs flawless so far and looks the same as the Z4.
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Exactly, though if it does have the same camera but with improved software, it would benefit us z2 users.
@lodger
Z2 is a decent flagship, I don't think an upgrade is neccessary however if you do upgrade don't go for Z4, snapdragon 810 has overheating issues, it will have smaller battery plus more power consumption.
Go for S6 or S6 edge.I know samsung has quality issues but those two are premium phones.They don't have snapdragon afterall, rumor says samsung tried 810 but couldn't deal with the heat so they used their own chipset which has great battery/performance.
so the official words is this will be called the Z3+, not the Z4.
Source: http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/26/8659357/sony-xperia-z3-plus-specs-features-release-date
Time to switch to LG G4.
I'll be sticking with the Z2 thanks, until ara comes out at least
the Z3+ supports alot of manual settings like Manual Focus,shutter speed,ISO and white balance.So there is hope for us too. ( :
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This makes me happy, manual controls is what is needed on a phone with a good camera
manual control is introduced for the z3+ but still no raw support
check this video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9Cqcs2-CA
Thats disapointing
Raw support would make my college work so much easier.
Lets hope sony bring raw mode
Someone will mod and port those settings to Z2!
Still Z3+ isn't a worthy update. A true Z4 with 820 SOC when it comes.
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How do you all know if the Z4 have heating issues, do you have it ? No the device isn't out yet so you all cant complain, Sony fix that probarly till the release and if someone have the Z4 then we can talk about it and please dont say Samsung is a quality phone since they have the s6, Sony is a better quality phone and for sure a better design, let samsung stick on thier plastic devices !
every phone that has a S810 built in has been hot till now. And if not it's been throttling down like hell.
Even this Chinaphone (name forgotten sorry) which had 5 patent's pending on cooling technology and said they will get the dragon tamed failed.
and from a material point of view glass is not really a good material for heat transportation. I don't expect any kind of Magic from Sony in this case.
But yeah, we will see that with the first reviews
btw Camera.... we have a IMX220 sensor in our Z2 right? Same as Z3...
Z4 will also get this one or the 16MP IMX240 as in SGS6 and Note4, with native 16:9 resolution.
Though the IMX230 is said to ship in April 2015.... still 4:3 and some pretty neat features.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201411/14-112E/
http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-810-benchmark-no-overheating-587303/
You do realise that "MDP" stands for Mobile Development Platform and is especially made by Qualcomm?
sold my Z2 and upgraded to a LG G4 international unlocked model. Couldn't be happier. Best upgrade ever. Everything is better than the Z2 and the camera is way more advance than Sony's camera.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2015/06/09/snapdragon-810-v2-1
Verizon is introducing
http://m.gsmarena.com/a_verizonexclusive_xperia_z4v_is_coming_to_america-news-12672.php
@):- Being Practical ~o)
This year, few smartphones have been as talked about – or subject to as many leaks – as the Sony Xperia Z4, and along those lines we present to you the latest batch of photos to trickle onto the web via in2mobile and NWE. Click through on the links to see the slideshows in full.
What’s interesting is that the phone in these shots shows the model number E6553, the same number that appeared in leaked benchmark tests last week. Either it’s the same phone or someone’s very handy with a photo editor.
Another image shows the camera around the back of the supposed Xperia Z4. It looks a lot like the snapper fixed to last year’s Xperia Z3 – based on earlier rumours we are expecting the megapixel rating to be the same but with an upgrade for the internal sensor.
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for those who wanna upgrade their smartphone
Xperia Z4 is one of the best choice.
elegant body, stunning display, smooth UI (like wht we had experience with Z2, Z3), awesome performance & best camera
+ Stereo speaker it means all u want
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Sony Xperia Z4 is better than LG G4. Really it has good feature, smoothly use, nice camera and so on .
I think sony Xperia is very reliable and save to use,it is better than other mobile brands.
The Z3 camera is fantastic. I like Z3 more than Z4. I used Z4 but still Z3 is the best for me:good:
I like this !! jeje
Why you buy sony Xperia
Why you buy Xperia ,,, and there is Samsung Galaxy S6
Samsung hardware fails after a year or two.. Sony works for more than samsung...
Geeks Empire said:
for those who wanna upgrade their smartphone
Xperia Z4 is one of the best choice.
elegant body, stunning display, smooth UI (like wht we had experience with Z2, Z3), awesome performance & best camera
+ Stereo speaker it means all u want
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Disagree with my usage so far, camera is okay, same as Z3, no optical stabilisation and is now falling behind both the S6 and G4 for quality imo. Also have installed pocketcasts and there is noticeable lag while watching video podcasts, first phone I have had that has done this.
Also I am disappointed that Sony have once again resorted to applying a shatter resistant screen, this does not have oleophobic coating, gets easily smudged which really shows up in the sunlight.
Personally I think Sony have launched the Z3+ (Z4) just to get a phone out there rather than taking time to actually upgrade the phone properly, maybe this is due to all the unrest in the Sony mobile camp!
The question is, does the screen have the oleophobic coats on the screen itself, under the pre-installed screen protector..?
UPDATE: Found out, The answer is.. YES!
http://www.androidcentral.com/you-c...ble-factory-fitted-xperia-z3-screen-protector
Hello Everyone,
I bought a Moto G4 Plus a few months back but returned it as it was defective. Now I will be ordering another phone tomorrow, but now I am confused between two - Moto G4 Plus and Lenovo Z2 Plus( Zuk Z2), I feel that Z2 Plus is better in all aspects except the camera. Can someone please tell me how is the Camera of Moto G4 plus and if possible please compare it with the Z2 plus.
Also, if possible please suggest which phone should I buy.
Specs -
Z2 Plus - Snapdragon 820, 3500 Mah battery, 13MP camera(No OIS), 3GB RAM
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Sounds like you'd be trading more performance for a better camera if you went with the G4. It's kinda up to you with what's more important.
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Camera is a priority but performance stands higher.
But the Z2 also costs 50$ more so I can't decide.
aditya510 said:
Camera is a priority but performance stands higher.
But the Z2 also costs 50$ more so I can't decide.
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As your name suggest you are an indian.And the g4 plus that are sold on amazon.in have many issues i.e all the g4 phone which are manufactured in india are a bit defective.Like overheat and screen burn are the two main problem I have seen .Zuk z1 was good and i think zuk z2 would be great. 4k rs investing more will give you a big jump in the specs
Z2