Anyone rooted get the update? It's working on my wife's non-rooted mxpe, but my rooted phone didn't get anything yet.
I just got it on rooted stock mxp.
Not happy that it doesn't integrate with Moto Voice at all....And GA with screen off doesn't work despite setting in Google app saying it does.
Do you have moto voice on? I also don't have the option for ok google from any screen under the voice settings in the Google app and my wife's phone does. Weird.
How did you get the update? I for a security update this morning which is weird but I didn't think that was related.
irtrueno said:
How did you get the update? I for a security update this morning which is weird but I didn't think that was related.
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It's all server side... You will know you have it by long-pressing the home button, if it pops up with Google Assistant you have it, if it doesn't then Google hasn't turned it on for you yet.
acejavelin said:
It's all server side... You will know you have it by long-pressing the home button, if it pops up with Google Assistant you have it, if it doesn't then Google hasn't turned it on for you yet.
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Does Assistant pop up running the Google now launcher for you? I have feeds on and currently a long press just goes to the left Google now screen.
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Does Assistant pop up running the Google now launcher for you? I have feeds on and currently a long press just goes to the left Google now screen.
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Yes it does... In both Google Now and Nova Prime.
It does appear that the only way to wake the pure is to have moto voice enabled. When activating moto voice it only starts the classic google now interface, not google assistant. I've tried disabling moto voice -- if you do, you can't wake the device from sleep with just your voice. I'm going to follow this thread, maybe someone will find a way?
Using Tasker (and being rooted with Magisk), I was able to get "OK Google" (my custom phrase) waking Moto Voice, then immediately launching Google Assistant. However, it only seems to work right when the screen is already on. If I turn the screen off and say "OK Google", Moto Voice launches, but Tasker never launches the shell command to launch Google Assistant. Not sure what the problem is.
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Event - App (Moto Voice)
Task - Run Shell (/sbin/su -c "input keyevent 219") - if you use SuperSU or something you can just check the Root box, and can just put "input keyevent 219)
I've tried adding delays to the profile, etc... but it almost seems like the Moto Voice screen that comes up when the screen is on is "Moto Voice", but when the screen is off it's not.
Seems like we'll need an update from Motorola to truly solve this.
Running LineageOS 02/13 build. Got Google Assistant working. But OK Google detection works only when on home screen (Nova Launcher). Also I have set the Home button long press action to 'Search Assistant'.
OK Google detection setting is actually greyed out in Google App. But it's somehow working.
P.S: I have opted for Google Beta in playstore.
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Would it be possible? Including the voice wake functionality "Okay, Google Now" instead of "Hi Galaxy"?
How many would be interested in something like this?
Should not be too hard to do, what do you think?
Probably will need root to achieve it
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SOLVED: using a very simple tasker profile/action (see here)
UPDATE: Install this tiny free app from the Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.viczian.deathtosvoice (created using Tasker App Factory)
Works on galaxy advancement
vgergo said:
Would it be possible? Including the voice wake functionality "Okay, Google Now" instead of "Hi Galaxy"?
How many would be interested in something like this?
Should not be too hard to do, what do you think?
Probably will need root to achieve it
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Works on galaxy advancement? thank you
Leonardosilvaa said:
Works on galaxy advancement? thank you
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For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
Presjar said:
For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
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Any idea how to replicate this?
Presjar said:
For some reason, I can now double tap home button and I get the option for S-voice or Google voice. I think I cleared the defaults in app settings.
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Yeah I got this too. It happened after I installed SoundHound.
Now I have the options of
Google
S Voice
SoundHound
Interesting but without the option to activate gvoice with screen off its not a huge benefit. I tested open mic+ but it lacks admin rights to bypass the lockscreen etc.
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Yeah I got this too. It happened after I installed SoundHound.
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The free version? I've tried that but I don't see a menu after double clicking home.
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Interesting but without the option to activate gvoice with screen off its not a huge benefit. I tested open mic+ but it lacks admin rights to bypass the lockscreen etc.
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You mean root permissions?
Sorry, I was wrong. I thought S-Voice is able to bypass a pin lockscreen but it isn't. It is only admin (not root) to allow the screen off command.
The problem of open mic+ is, that it is buggy. It seems to freeze after a short time. Sometimes Google Now freezes as well so I think it is because of Open Mic+ but I didn't tested it enough to verify it. S-Voice seems to be more stable, but is not present if you are in other apps like Maps.
But both systems are too weak in rights. e.g. I'm not able to stop apps (ok root would be needed), not able to say my lockscreen pin, stop a phone call, etc.
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I just had an idea: it should be possible to create a very simple tasker action, which would be triggered by opening s-voice. It would exit s-voice and switch immediatelly to Google Voice Search. This should work even without rooting.
If this would work, all the convenient ways to start S-Voice would become actually useful to start Google Voice search, including voice-wake, home-double-click, headset-long-press.
I will try this as soon as I get my N3
How do you want to exit S-Voice without root
There's the point! Okay, without root we can just switch away (would mic input focus stay? that would be a problem), with root it should be possible to kick s-voice too.
If one app opens the mic the other will display an error.
Tasker solution works well on unrooted phone
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If one app opens the mic the other will display an error.
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I am happy to report, that the solution I came up with before I had access to the Note 3 works without a hitch.
1. Enable wake-up hotword detection in S-Voice (keep double click Home if you like that too)
2. Create "S Voice" app-triggered tasker profile
3. The activated task should load "Voice Search"
4. Optional step: after starting voice search, my task also kills S-Voice to save memory
(and killing s-voice every time makes you me good)
There is no concurrency problem with the mic (as we were anticipating)
Say "Hi galaxy" while having the screen turned off
(I actually like to "say Die galaxy")
phone wakes up,
home screen unlocks,
s-voice flashes on screen for half a sec (beeps too)
then google voice search appears immediately
it too beeps and listens for the search term or command
Next project: it would be nice to be able to change the "hi galaxy" wake up command
The changeable wake up command is part of the Galaxy S4 S-Voice so I think it will be part in the Note 3 in one of the next updates (hopefully).
Of course I tested your idea, too. But it seems that it works better with Llama than with Tasker as Google Voice starts immediately. As I'm not rooted its not as perfect as yours (I need to tap backwards fast to bypass restarting Google Voice), but the goal is reached
Look:
http://www.maxrev.de/google-sprachsuche-statt-s-voice-mp4-v377253.htm
Update:
Ok I found a better solution. Know I'm using three rules instead of one and this is how it works:
Final Demo Video
The first rule starts Google Voice, but checks if the variable "googleSearch" is not 1 (this is important as it fails, too if the variable does not exist after rebooting the device). The second rules sets the var to "1" if Google Voice is open. The last rule resets the var to "0" with a delay of 3 seconds after Google Voice has been closed. So I'm having 3 seconds to close S Voice before Google Voice would start again.
If you don't want to here the "ping" sound of S Voice after closing Google Voice it would be possible to mute the device for 3 seconds as well, but I don't think this is really important
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The changeable wake up command is part of the Galaxy S4 S-Voice so I think it will be part in the Note 3 in one of the next updates (hopefully).
Of course I tested your idea, too. But it seems that it works better with Llama than with Tasker as Google Voice starts immediately. As I'm not rooted its not as perfect as yours (I need to tap backwards fast to bypass restarting Google Voice), but the goal is reached
Look:
http://www.maxrev.de/google-sprachsuche-statt-s-voice-mp4-v377253.htm
Update:
Ok I found a better solution. Know I'm using three rules instead of one and this is how it works:
Final Demo Video
The first rule starts Google Voice, but checks if the variable "googleSearch" is not 1 (this is important as it fails, too if the variable does not exist after rebooting the device). The second rules sets the var to "1" if Google Voice is open. The last rule resets the var to "0" with a delay of 3 seconds after Google Voice has been closed. So I'm having 3 seconds to close S Voice before Google Voice would start again.
If you don't want to here the "ping" sound of S Voice after closing Google Voice it would be possible to mute the device for 3 seconds as well, but I don't think this is really important
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thats excellent Mgutt
the note does the transition across to google now/voice commands very quickly.. you have put the note back on the table as an option for my next phone.. im just holding out to see if the LG G2 will use the S800 for always on listening when it gets kitkat..
Im a bit spooked by AMOLED now that my galaxy S2 is marred by burn in
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thats excellent Mgutt
the note does the transition across to google now/voice commands very quickly.. you have put the note back on the table as an option for my next phone.. im just holding out to see if the LG G2 will use the S800 for always on listening when it gets kitkat..
Im a bit spooked by AMOLED now that my galaxy S2 is marred by burn in
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I'm having one problem left. But I think its because of Llamas limited amount of triggers. The problem is: Google Voice is not able to receive the next command while its open. Instead S Voice waits for the next "Hello Galaxy". To bypass this problem I tried to switch off the display automatically. This works, but only with a fixed delay as I'm not able to trigger "last touch/last talk + 10 seconds" with Llama.
Would this work with Tasker (and without Root)?
The next option would be to activate "Open Mic+" as long Google Voice is open. But I did not tested if this would work.
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Would this work with Tasker (and without Root)?
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Well we can set the display timeout to 15sec, then restore the default (it's 30 sec for me because of smart stay) when google voice search disappears.
Because of the 30 sec display timeout it hasn't been much of a problem for me, but I was also wondering how to get it to prompt for a next question.
Curious: why doesn't the "ok, google" hotword work in google now? I've just tested the google experience launcher and hot word detection doesn't work in there either.
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Well we can set the display timeout to 15sec, then restore the default (it's 30 sec for me because of smart stay) when google voice search disappears.
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I'm using this setup (after 20 seconds display is turned off) and this is not good if you press the microphone button. Then the display switches off, too. So we need an additional "on touch" condition to avoid that.
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I'm using this setup (after 20 seconds display is turned off) and this is not good if you press the microphone button. Then the display switches off, too. So we need an additional "on touch" condition to avoid that.
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Okay, then set the display timeout to 15sec, wait 15sec then set it back to whatever it used to be. Then if the screen was touched (and the display timeout extended) then it will stay on...
I hope to be able to test these with tasker in the afternoon
I used to be able to double tap home to open Google Now. Now it opens S Voice. How can I make it open Google Now.
Also... Does anyone actually prefer S Voice?
Thanks!
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You need root for that, use Wanam xposed to configure double tap on hope run Google Now.
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You need root for that, use Wanam xposed to configure double tap on hope run Google Now.
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I am rooted, however, I cannot run Xposed because it borks games by SquareEnix, and I play FFIV lol. Thanks though!
Any other ideas?
very simple; Install home2 shortcut, assign double-click button to Google now. I have mine set to voice search, so I don't even have to hit my mic when I open google now.
Very convenient when driving
BTW, NO root required!
Even better for driving is to enable the "Hi Galaxy" wake command. Then use tasker to switch over to Google Voice Search each time S - voice runs. There's a 1 sec or so delay but it works and no hands required.
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Even better for driving is to enable the "Hi Galaxy" wake command. Then use tasker to switch over to Google Voice Search each time S - voice runs. There's a 1 sec or so delay but it works and no hands required.
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I now realize after switching to Nova launcher this disables the ability to return to your main home screen from another home screen. Is there any xposed or other solution I can use to avoid this issue? I already tried xbutton actions with no option to use double click home button to launch anything!
S for switch voice app in playstore. No root needed.
So I've seen that the Moto x has the Touch less Control that allows the user to have the option to use their phone without even touching it. Little did I know that the same could be done with my Nexus 5. Just head to the Settings on the Google Now page at the bottom, then tap on "voice". From there, tap "OK Google detection". Afterwards you just have to train your voice 3 times and can now have the ability to activate Google now fro. Anywhere, including while the phone is sleeping, if you check the lock screen activation box. From there, you should now be able to use Google now from the lock screen without having to press the power button or from any application throughout your Nexus 5 or device that is running the Google Now Launcher. :good:
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So I've seen that the Moto x has the Touch less Control that allows the user to have the option to use their phone without even touching it. Little did I know that the same could be done with my Nexus 5. Just head to the Settings on the Google Now page at the bottom, then tap on "voice". From there, tap "OK Google detection". Afterwards you just have to train your voice 3 times and can now have the ability to activate Google now fro. Anywhere, including while the phone is sleeping, if you check the lock screen activation box. From there, you should now be able to use Google now from the lock screen without having to press the power button or from any application throughout your Nexus 5 or device that is running the Google Now Launcher. :good:
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Only works in US English at present, and I'm sure this is common knowledge by now...
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Only works in US English at present, and I'm sure this is common knowledge by now...
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also to use the "while sleeping" feature the device must be plug into a power source
Theres already a thread for this, and its hardly useful unless you enjoy battery drain.
im coming from the nexus 6 (ive already installed google launcher---- ok google would turn on the phone--awesome while driving because i can start a song on spotify. ive dug through the settings any im not seeing it--i read the s6 didnt have it at first?? this really sucks if i cant get it to turn on! help!
What what I can tell with my S6, the only time it listens for "Ok Google" is when the screen is on or when the power is connected.
My Galaxy Alpha too.
I couldn't wake up my phone with "OK Google"
It's not the same thing as Google but you can use S Voice. Some like it, some don't. Just sayin'
That feature is not available on samsung. you need to use S voice, which doesn't really compare... it's unfortunate with all samsung phones =(
my note 4 will will start and listen, but it always says I have to unlock the device first. for security reasons I understand. I wonder if there is a voice recolonization app.. hummm..
could be a million dollar app.. someone want to help me make it?
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my note 4 will will start and listen, but it always says I have to unlock the device first. for security reasons I understand. I wonder if there is a voice recolonization app.. hummm..
could be a million dollar app.. someone want to help me make it?
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A few have tried. Open mic is one. You need access to the low power part of the soc to make it worth while which non of us have. Other wise battery life gets destroyed. Samsung just needs to give us the option to use s voice or Google.
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What what I can tell with my S6, the only time it listens for "Ok Google" is when the screen is on or when the power is connected.
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Dang...it won't turn on even if the phone is plugged in
Yeah, that's my only grip with this phone. Previously using a xiaomi Mi Note Pro amd it worked also on my mercedes w205. Pressing the voice button on the steering wheel no longer launch ok google.
well there is the option to take off screen lock.. haha
Not available on this phone. An alternative is to create a Google Voice shortcut on the lock screen like stock Android.
You can use tasker to reroute s voice to Google search. But its slow and unreliable.
Settings --> System (tab) --> Language and Input --> Google voice typing --> "OK Google" detection
This will allow you to simply say "OK Google" from any screen - including the lock screen.
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Settings --> System (tab) --> Language and Input --> Google voice typing --> "OK Google" detection
This will allow you to simply say "OK Google" from any screen - including the lock screen.
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doesn't work for me. I am using nova launcher.
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That feature is not available on samsung. you need to use S voice, which doesn't really compare... it's unfortunate with all samsung phones =(
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of course it's available, i've always used it via the Google app or Nova launcher... Works fine on my S7 Edge with both (Google or Nova launcher). It turns the screen ON and I can even unlock the phone just by saying "Ok Google" (option has to be enabled in the Google app)
If you turn keep screen on and go to Google settings and tick OK Google from any screen including the lock screen it works
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If you turn keep screen on and go to Google settings and tick OK Google from any screen including the lock screen it works
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ok I think I got it. I need to go to "OK google" detection
Will try if I can launch it from my car now.
Edit: also work from my car command button.
Press and hold home button.
Tap the "G"
Tap settings menu in top left corner
Tap settings
Tap voice
Set up voice recognition
Done.
It does work from all screens.
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Just thought you might all like to know my Galaxy S7 Edge wakes up ONLY by saying "Hey Galaxy" or even just saying "Galaxy". It won't wake up by saying "OK Google"
Noticed it works only when screen is on or... If it's off and on a wireless charger or plugged in....
ok i just switched to the V20 from moto X play edition. I loved the moto voice assistant, mostly because i could change the hotword. Is there something similar i can use on the V20
Google Now.
doesnt allow for hotword change
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doesnt allow for hotword change
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Go to the Google app.
In upper left corner tap three bar.
Menu opens
Then select voice option.
In the you can find the hot word.
yes i know of to do the "train my voice" but it doesnt allow to change the hotword. with moto i could instead of saying ok google i could say something else