Lemfo Y3 issues - Other SmartWatches

Notifications sometimes don't work, especially for calls. It stays connected fine with Nougat, though I can't figure out how to track sleep. The specs state that it can.
Until today. I added the watch as one of my "trusted devices" so the phone stays unlocked when they're in range of each other, and it disconnected. Now when I try to reconnect in WiiWear, it crashes and disconnects again. I've forgotten the watch, removed it from "trusted devices," wiped cache, reinstalled WiiWear, etc, and it still crashes. HELP!

The Bluetooth stack in all these MTK 6580 watches are very unreliable
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pablo11 said:
The Bluetooth stack in all these MTK 6580 watches are very unreliable
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Seems that way. Hopefully an update comes soon that helps.

I've had it. Constantly disconnecting, having to reset the watch to get it to connect again, and crashing assistant "SinWear" app. Pissing me off. I'm returning this.

GuyInDogSuit said:
I've had it. Constantly disconnecting, having to reset the watch to get it to connect again, and crashing assistant "SinWear" app. Pissing me off. I'm returning this.
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Sorry to hear about your issues. I'm considering buying one myself. Do you think this is mostly a problem with the watch (i.e. hardware) or something with the connection between the phone app and the watch software?
Also, if you don't mind taking a minute to tell me, what did you think of the build quality and general usability of the Y3?

Techngro said:
Sorry to hear about your issues. I'm considering buying one myself. Do you think this is mostly a problem with the watch (i.e. hardware) or something with the connection between the phone app and the watch software?
Also, if you don't mind taking a minute to tell me, what did you think of the build quality and general usability of the Y3?
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I have the Y3, and the connection problem is very real. Until yesterday, I could not maintain any reliable connection between the watch and my phone. The Bluetooth would continually connect and disconnect, and the m2d manager and receiver were very quickly being killed after the the screen turned off. Then I stumbled on the cause. I was checking the app notification log using Google gesture and noticed an app called Battery Master posting silent notifications. This app does not show in the app list and is not accessible in any other settings screen. However, when I tapped on one of the notifications in the notification log, it took me to the info screen for Battery Master and gave me the option to disable the app, which I did. Bluetooth, m2d, and notifications have worked perfectly ever since. So far I have not noticed any significant difference in battery drain but it will probably take a few days to know for sure.
Build quality of the watch is excellent. I love the watch now that the connection issue is fixed. The display is awesome since there is no black band around the outside and no flat tire. I've installed the ClockSkin launcher which provides a better looking interface and allows installation of all the excellent LEM5 watch faces available from the G+ user group. Battery life for me (after disabling Battery Master) seems to be about 10 hours.

GuyInDogSuit said:
I've had it. Constantly disconnecting, having to reset the watch to get it to connect again, and crashing assistant "SinWear" app. Pissing me off. I'm returning this.
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mattbren said:
I have the Y3, and the connection problem is very real. Until yesterday, I could not maintain any reliable connection between the watch and my phone. The Bluetooth would continually connect and disconnect, and the m2d manager and receiver were very quickly being killed after the the screen turned off. Then I stumbled on the cause. I was checking the app notification log using Google gesture and noticed an app called Battery Master posting silent notifications. This app does not show in the app list and is not accessible in any other settings screen. However, when I tapped on one of the notifications in the notification log, it took me to the info screen for Battery Master and gave me the option to disable the app, which I did. Bluetooth, m2d, and notifications have worked perfectly ever since. So far I have not noticed any significant difference in battery drain but it will probably take a few days to know for sure.
Build quality of the watch is excellent. I love the watch now that the connection issue is fixed. The display is awesome since there is no black band around the outside and no flat tire. I've installed the ClockSkin launcher which provides a better looking interface and allows installation of all the excellent LEM5 watch faces available from the G+ user group. Battery life for me (after disabling Battery Master) seems to be about 10 hours.
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That's good to hear. You should definitely make a quick Youtube video about the fix, or even just a thread here on XDA. I bet a lot of people never discovered what was the cause of their connection issues and just returned the watch. One question though, does that fix persist through a reboot, or do you have to disable the Battery Master app each time you start the watch?
Please update us if your connection issues continue to be resolved with that fix (or not).

Techngro said:
Sorry to hear about your issues. I'm considering buying one myself. Do you think this is mostly a problem with the watch (i.e. hardware) or something with the connection between the phone app and the watch software?
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Definitely the phone app. The phone app crashes when trying to connect.
Techngro said:
Also, if you don't mind taking a minute to tell me, what did you think of the build quality and general usability of the Y3?
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It's actually really good. It's a solid watch, and it has a lot of good uses. I wish it did work with apps like Google Fit and Sleep as Android though, but it's not really necessary as those work fine with just the phone as is. It is supposedly IP67-rated water proof, but I don't recommend testing that by completely submerging it, or showering with it on. It likely is OK with washing hands, though. Or sweat. Never had a problem even with my original Moto 360 in that regard.

One thing these will never do is make or receive calls over Bluetooth. None of them will.
They are a stand alone watch phone. Never made to call through Bluetooth.
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Techngro said:
That's good to hear. You should definitely make a quick Youtube video about the fix, or even just a thread here on XDA. I bet a lot of people never discovered what was the cause of their connection issues and just returned the watch. One question though, does that fix persist through a reboot, or do you have to disable the Battery Master app each time you start the watch?
Please update us if your connection issues continue to be resolved with that fix (or not).
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The fix is still working, and yes, it does survive a reboot.

mattbren said:
I have the Y3, and the connection problem is very real. Until yesterday, I could not maintain any reliable connection between the watch and my phone. The Bluetooth would continually connect and disconnect, and the m2d manager and receiver were very quickly being killed after the the screen turned off. Then I stumbled on the cause. I was checking the app notification log using Google gesture and noticed an app called Battery Master posting silent notifications. This app does not show in the app list and is not accessible in any other settings screen. However, when I tapped on one of the notifications in the notification log, it took me to the info screen for Battery Master and gave me the option to disable the app, which I did. Bluetooth, m2d, and notifications have worked perfectly ever since. So far I have not noticed any significant difference in battery drain but it will probably take a few days to know for sure.
Build quality of the watch is excellent. I love the watch now that the connection issue is fixed. The display is awesome since there is no black band around the outside and no flat tire. I've installed the ClockSkin launcher which provides a better looking interface and allows installation of all the excellent LEM5 watch faces available from the G+ user group. Battery life for me (after disabling Battery Master) seems to be about 10 hours.
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How exactly did you access those settings? What if you walked too far from the phone, does it reconnect?

GuyInDogSuit said:
How exactly did you access those settings? What if you walked too far from the phone, does it reconnect?
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Download the app Google Gesture Search from the play store onto your watch. This will allow you to easily search for settings options that are not accessible through the watch's launcher. Search for Notification Log. In the log, tap on any line that says Battery Master. This will take you to the app info page for Battery Master. You can't uninstall the app but you can disable it. This will allow Bluetooth to stay connected and will allow the m2d manager and receiver to stay running.
Using m2d, the phone will reconnect with the watch automatically if you come back into Bluetooth range.
Be aware that once you disable Battery Master, there is no way to re-enable it because it won't show up in the logs. I'm guessing that a firmware update or a factory reset would re-enable it.

mattbren said:
Download the app Google Gesture Search from the play store onto your watch. This will allow you to easily search for settings options that are not accessible through the watch's launcher. Search for Notification Log. In the log, tap on any line that says Battery Master. This will take you to the app info page for Battery Master. You can't uninstall the app but you can disable it. This will allow Bluetooth to stay connected and will allow the m2d manager and receiver to stay running.
Using m2d, the phone will reconnect with the watch automatically if you come back into Bluetooth range.
Be aware that once you disable Battery Master, there is no way to re-enable it because it won't show up in the logs. I'm guessing that a firmware update or a factory reset would re-enable it.
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Sweet!

GuyInDogSuit said:
Definitely the phone app. The phone app crashes when trying to connect.
It's actually really good. It's a solid watch, and it has a lot of good uses. I wish it did work with apps like Google Fit and Sleep as Android though, but it's not really necessary as those work fine with just the phone as is. It is supposedly IP67-rated water proof, but I don't recommend testing that by completely submerging it, or showering with it on. It likely is OK with washing hands, though. Or sweat. Never had a problem even with my original Moto 360 in that regard.
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The IP67 rating is a misprint, on the official LEMFO store at AliExpress, the listing for the Y3 states that it is IP65 rated. I took a screenshot because I know a lot of people were confused about that.

pablo11 said:
One thing these will never do is make or receive calls over Bluetooth. None of them will.
They are a stand alone watch phone. Never made to call through Bluetooth.
Cheers
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That's really too bad. I really would like a watch like my Gear S (which also allows you to use a SIM card) that can simply pass the call through the watch. For driving it is great to keep your hands on the wheel. I wonder why the feature isn't on more watches. It seems like a no-brainer.

Yeah, these are literally a phone watch. A miniature android phone on your wrist....
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mattbren said:
Download the app Google Gesture Search from the play store onto your watch. This will allow you to easily search for settings options that are not accessible through the watch's launcher. Search for Notification Log. In the log, tap on any line that says Battery Master. This will take you to the app info page for Battery Master. You can't uninstall the app but you can disable it. This will allow Bluetooth to stay connected and will allow the m2d manager and receiver to stay running.
Using m2d, the phone will reconnect with the watch automatically if you come back into Bluetooth range.
Be aware that once you disable Battery Master, there is no way to re-enable it because it won't show up in the logs. I'm guessing that a firmware update or a factory reset would re-enable it.
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Are you sure it's called "Google Gesture Search"? I can't seem to find it.

pablo11 said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.gesturesearch&hl=en Settings search is also good
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Not available in my country. I got it from APKMirror though.

I still have issues connecting after doing this. It worked fine and stayed connected the first time but once I rebooted both devices, wiiwear now force closes. I'm on Nexus 6p dirty unicorns 7.1 and the firmware on the watch is from Dec 16 any ideas
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Ultraman666 said:
I still have issues connecting after doing this. It worked fine and stayed connected the first time but once I rebooted both devices, wiiwear now force closes. I'm on Nexus 6p dirty unicorns 7.1 and the firmware on the watch is from Dec 16 any ideas
Sent from this Nexus "Pure" 6P!!!
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Neither Wiiwear or Sinwear will run on my Nexus 5x. I think it's an incompatibility with Android 7+. You can sync notifications to the Y3 using m2d once you fix the Bluetooth problem by disabling Battery Master.

Related

Shift Slows down and starts vibrating.

I seem to be having a weird behaviour with my phone lately. Once in a while, it just slows down to a crawl, and intermittently vibrates (not the quick haptic vibrations, but maybe 1 to 1.5 second long vibrations). although the phone still responds, it's really slow, and i had to do a battery pull in order to get it property working again. I didn't actually have that problem, so i can't be sure, but the symptoms may match those of a bad temp root. (phone slows down, etc). I never waited long enough to see if the phone reverts to normal after a while, and i've always just pulled the battery.
it seems to be correlated to blutooth connections. it happened once when i was turning on an app (torque) ...and today, happened again while i was exiting from torque. i've been using torque for maybe 2 months now, and everything was fine.
the symptoms also doesn't happen all the time.
anyone know what the problem is?
i have a rooted shift, stock rom, and bc's 1.8 kernel running @ 368-1401 on-demand.
it's also possible that the OBD2 blutooth adapter i'm using with torque is a cheap knock off elm327.
This is a bug with Torque and Pandora. If you uninstall Pandora or turn off the car Bluetooth in the Pandora settings it will fix it.
I use both Torque paid and a cheap knockoff adapter also.
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thanks for the response. are you able to elaborate on the bug? is it the combination of torque and pandora that triggers it? i do have pandora installed, but don't really use it.
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thanks for the response. are you able to elaborate on the bug? is it the combination of torque and pandora that triggers it? i do have pandora installed, but don't really use it.
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This is from the Torque forum:
There is a good chance that you have another app or bluetooth pairing that is conflicting somehow – with quite a few EVO users (though it wasn’t limited to just the EVO), the ‘Pandora’ app was the culprit, but any app that stays active monitoring bluetooth could be the culprit.
Torque’s bluetooth code is rock solid, and it works on the Tab, so you’ll have some 3rd party app somewhere which is going crazy consuming all the available CPU power.
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If you go into Pandora and go to Preferences then at the bottom is "Bluetooth for Automotive" turn that off and it fixes the issue. I rarely use Pandora myself and was bummed that I couldn't use both apps, until I found this workaround on the Torque forum.
Interesting. I also have my phone paired to my car...could that be an issue?
Is the fact that I've only experienced this recently inspite of 2+ mos of use, consistent with that thesis?
edit: nm. i went to the torque forums, and learned myself a thing or two. yup, definitely experiencing those symptoms. the dev was saying the newest version should have some workaround, so we'll see tommorow if it takes.
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MotoACTV as a sleep tracker

I am a bit put off by the fact that motorola hasn't implemented a sleep tracker into the motoACTV. Given that they are pretty much all the rage nowadays with fitness trackers (ie. Fitbit zip and one, Jawbone UP, etc).
Im wondering if anyone has tried to use their rooted motoactv to run a sleep tracking app from the market place and how it worked for you? I just downloaded SleepBot (unless you have another recommendation) and am planning to try it tonight. However that app is meant to be ran on a phone, while plugged in and set near your pillow. It uses the phone's accelerometer to monitor your tossing and turning in bed, the phone's microphone to monitor your noises/snoring/sleeptalking and also requires the phone screen to be on during the whole time. That last part is what has me worried. I don't think that the motoactv has the ability to keep a screen lit, albeit the app dims the screen for you, for 8+hrs.
It would be nice to have software built into the MotoACTV like the jawbone UP does. Anyone have some input?
Tried sleepbot app. Didn't work. The screen size doesn't allow the whole app to display once in sleep mode tracking motion. The wake up button gets hidden and the app gets stuck in the tracking mode rendering pretty much useless. Tonight um trying sleep as android. This time I tested it during tracking and confirmed the app fits the screen or can be scrollable.
I was surprised to wake up and have 60% battery left.
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I am a bit put off by the fact that motorola hasn't implemented a sleep tracker into the motoACTV. Given that they are pretty much all the rage nowadays with fitness trackers (ie. Fitbit zip and one, Jawbone UP, etc).
Im wondering if anyone has tried to use their rooted motoactv to run a sleep tracking app from the market place and how it worked for you? I just downloaded SleepBot (unless you have another recommendation) and am planning to try it tonight. However that app is meant to be ran on a phone, while plugged in and set near your pillow. It uses the phone's accelerometer to monitor your tossing and turning in bed, the phone's microphone to monitor your noises/snoring/sleeptalking and also requires the phone screen to be on during the whole time. That last part is what has me worried. I don't think that the motoactv has the ability to keep a screen lit, albeit the app dims the screen for you, for 8+hrs.
It would be nice to have software built into the MotoACTV like the jawbone UP does. Anyone have some input?
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The actv has a built in sleep tracker. DPRom has it enabled. The software is in all roms that contain the stock firmware, but the app may be disabled for some as it doesn't come with an icon to launch it. In those cases, you may be able to manually launch it using a file explorer or something. It is called "SleepAnalysis.apk".
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The actv has a built in sleep tracker. DPRom has it enabled. The software is in all roms that contain the stock firmware, but the app may be disabled for some as it doesn't come with an icon to launch it. In those cases, you may be able to manually launch it using a file explorer or something. It is called "SleepAnalysis.apk".
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Thanks for this! I had no idea. So if its enabled I should see an icon for it? In the android app list or within the listing of activities? I can't wait to test it. Thanks again!
Edit: I couldn't find the apk by searching so I found your post on another thread tht offered it as a downloadable with adb commands to install it. Works perfect! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36528460&postcount=399
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adamjamess said:
Thanks for this! I had no idea. So if its enabled I should see an icon for it? In the android app list or within the listing of activities? I can't wait to test it. Thanks again!
Edit: I couldn't find the apk by searching so I found your post on another thread tht offered it as a downloadable with adb commands to install it. Works perfect! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36528460&postcount=399
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That's the one! Well done. I forgot where his post was. Lol
adamjamess said:
I am a bit put off by the fact that motorola hasn't implemented a sleep tracker into the motoACTV. Given that they are pretty much all the rage nowadays with fitness trackers (ie. Fitbit zip and one, Jawbone UP, etc).
Im wondering if anyone has tried to use their rooted motoactv to run a sleep tracking app from the market place and how it worked for you? I just downloaded SleepBot (unless you have another recommendation) and am planning to try it tonight. However that app is meant to be ran on a phone, while plugged in and set near your pillow. It uses the phone's accelerometer to monitor your tossing and turning in bed, the phone's microphone to monitor your noises/snoring/sleeptalking and also requires the phone screen to be on during the whole time. That last part is what has me worried. I don't think that the motoactv has the ability to keep a screen lit, albeit the app dims the screen for you, for 8+hrs.
It would be nice to have software built into the MotoACTV like the jawbone UP does. Anyone have some input?
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Motorola was going to put sleep tracking into motoactv, it was actually in development, before that the project stopped
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Motorola was going to put sleep tracking into motoactv, it was actually in development, before that the project stopped
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That sucks. Hopefully they haven't completely abandoned it. I've used it the past 2 nights. It works well. Maybe they're planning to release a new smart watch and launch the finished product of the sleep analysis then. And then xda peeps will port it to motoactv!
A couple of issues I've run into with the current state of the sleep analysis is that you must be at least 80% charge before starting because over the course of your sleep it discharges by about 75%(this might be because of root and rom). The tracker works when screen is off unlike a lot of sleep tracking apps on the market for smartphones. Also it usually states that I'm awake for 1hr and been awaken 7-8 times during my sleep. I don't know how true that is. The graph is hard to read due to screen size as well. I'm sure there was going to be a syncing deal with it. To export to phone or pc.
A few things I want to learn is how exactly the motoactv knows when I'm in deep sleep/ light sleep, and what sets it off to say I'm awake. Also want to know what's the optimum way to wear it. With wrist strap or clip on hip.
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Funny, I turned on marathon mode to save battery and tracked my sleep last night (which I only got 4 hrs). Turns out that the 3 second refresh caused me to be in "deep sleep" for all four hours which is bogus.
On the up side it finished the night with 80% battery which is a drastic savings over being on normal battery saver.
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Well after a week of using the native sleep tracker, I've gotta say it isn't very good. I was hoping it'll give me me info sheet the initial 7 nights. But nothing. You can't view previous cycles, only the overall score. But this was to be expected because it's largely unfinished. It's a shame though. And the android Market is lacking beyond sleep as andros or sleep bot.
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Are they on the market for another android device? If so, download it to that device, titanium backup, then copy the backed up apk to your computer and sideload it to the actv via adb.
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Yes they are. They work but they're heavy on the battery.
As of late, the native sleep analysis application has begun to force close every time.
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Hey. What are your impressions on Sleep as android on MotoACTV? Does it work after all?
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Hey. What are your impressions on Sleep as android on MotoACTV? Does it work after all?
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It does not work very well at all, it tends to drain the battery of the motoactv during the night. The app recommends you plug your phone in during use, so it is pretty power hungry.
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Features and disadvantages

So, this is my first day with this phone, but I have already discovered a lot of things. I will keep this thread updated, though, as I discover more of it on my journey to enlightenment.
Also bear in mind that just before this, I was the owner of an LG G2, so some of the things will be more of a comparison on the user friendliness LG offers.
Key features
Size: At least for me, this is the sweet spot. “Once you go Compact, you’ll never go back.” :laugh:
Glass: Feeling. It’s a smooth surface. You’ll want to be able to embrace it all you can all day.
Border: Grip usefulness. If you hold your smart phone from its borders, it’ll be a sure bet it’d never let go of you.
Microphone: The other end of the call hears what it’s said so clearly, it’s scary. Once it sounded as if the person was on the ring.
Camera: Have yet to try under low-light conditions, but at noon, this camera shined. I was complimented at wok for its effective resolution.
Middle ground
Buttons layout: Hardware and software buttons. I don’t know you, but I think this phone was made for left handed. Whenever I use my right hand, I don’t know, I feel my thump is all cramped in there trying to change volume, while if I use my left hand, oh, boy, it all feels natural, and no more cramping. The good side of this is I’ve learned to use my left hand more. Definitely the best uni-hand setup is that of the LG G2. With buttons behind the phone, both hands are equally free to work with them.
Front speakers: Sound is loud, but I found it to be muffled. I can only guess it’s due to its water/dust proof nature. To be honest, I never use the phone’s own speakers that much. Almost never on any phone I’ve owned so far.
Applications: I totally hate it they have bundled some of the worst widgets/applications I’ve seen, ever. “What’s New”... really? Yet, there are some useful or nice one, at least to me: Album, Walkman, PlayStation, and others.
Disadvantages
Glass: Coating is awful. I once a long time ago thought the my HTC Desire was the King of smudges and fingerprints. Guess what? We got a new champion...! Seriously, I’m thankful I bought the White version,which makes the back of the phone appear as clear as it could be, while only the front suffers totally from it. In just five minutes of constant usage (like in a game, or scrolling and archiving Tweets), the front glass was kinda “oily”, and you could see smudges everywhere. Also you know what? It’s slippery has hell. Never, ever, before, have I encountered a surface as slipper as these glasses. Words cannot describe how much that is.
LED Flash: It’s the worst. As for hardware, the darn thing “bleeds” light before it even leaves the case of the phone. I mean, Sony, seriously? This is totally unacceptable. I’m even thinking on returning it if only because of this. I tried the Flashlight notification widget, and the Torch application itself: total disaster. They are so dim, it looks as if they didn’t want us to use the “phone” as a flashlight. Yet, I discovered, the LED Flash can go even brighter. I noticed it while taking a picture in low-light conditions.
System navigation bar: No way to change it, even with some default presets. The LG G2 had this. For example I don’t use the Recents button much, but I do A LOT “switch back to previous application” option back on my HTC Desire with an application that would let me set such things up, like behavior when long pressing such buttons as well.
Permanent notifications: For some reason, some applications like Lifelog and My Data Manager create a kind of immortal notification on the Notifications Bar.
I’m pretty tired at the moment. I’ll try to update tomorrow morning with what’s missing or to try to answer other questions. Feel free to comment your own while I do so.
We're in the same boat bud.... Coming from a lg g2 to a white z3 compact. Feeling about the same too. I really would like to know your take on the battery life as this is one of the main reasons for me to switch. But it's still early so take your time and let us know.
Well, the LG G2 was a battery power house on its own. I made it to 72 hours once, but using only LTE and stock AT&T ROM. Wi-Fi disabled.
I’ll report back this weekend when I reach 1%.
Wow! Mine never reached 50 hours.
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I got my compact about a month ago, I love it
The only annoyance I see is the location of the buttons on the right side, when holding the phone during a call my fingers struggle to find a spot to hold the phone.
I think they should move the power and volume buttons further up
Falconzar said:
I got my compact about a month ago, I love it
The only annoyance I see is the location of the buttons on the right side, when holding the phone during a call my fingers struggle to find a spot to hold the phone.
I think they should move the power and volume buttons further up
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I never had such a problem. In the end it will never be okay for everyone, since we're all different.
mab71 said:
We're in the same boat bud.... Coming from a lg g2 to a white z3 compact. Feeling about the same too. I really would like to know your take on the battery life as this is one of the main reasons for me to switch. But it's still early so take your time and let us know.
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Alright, just reached 1% this morning. Check the attached images for details.
So, details of my analysis:
I didn’t use STAMINA mode. I will do so on my next testing session.
Most connectivity services were enabled all the time: NFC, mobile data and Wi-Fi. Also my preferred data option was LTE first, so take that into account as well. Bluetooth was disabled. I had the Location-based Wi-Fi option, so Wi-Fi would turn off if I wasn’t near any of my saved Wi-Fi locations. I think this is one of those smart options. I like it.
Looks like Facebook applications, it seems no matter which one, don’t do smart push notifications. It is ALWAYS using background data checking. I’ll be sure to disable Facebook on STAMINA mode next time. I use WhatsApp, but WhatsApp looks like it knows how to properly work with Push Notifications. That is, it’s not a battery drainer.
Kind of the same thing for the Swarm application.
Some applications consume data and hence battery only because of some “active” widgets I got on my home screens, like Walkman. I will profile and optimize them accordingly. I pretty much left all the widgets there from stock start up. Only deleted What’s New widget.
You see that the screen is what took most of the battery, yet I find it strange it doesn’t really indicate the applications I was using precisely. I mean, of course the screen was needed so I could see the applications, but I find it weird that, for example, I navigated through the Facebook application for like an hour, yet neither the video watching nor scrolling seemed to have taken a battery hit according to the Battery usage diagnostics. I need to dig deeper.
I did some gaming, but it was a lightweight game, Bubble Blast 2. I will try some more serious gaming later on. I’m setting up my old MyBoy! GBA emulator like I had it on my previous phone. It’s just that I live in another city from before, and now the commuting time is shorter, which was mostly the time when I used it.
Alright, that’s it for battery report.
I will sit down this weekend and try to truly optimize my work flow this time, so next tests are, as much as they can be, more accurate.
I’d wish more people commented. I’m truly offended no reviewers ANYWHERE I’ve read (outside these forums, I mean) have commented on things like the bleeding LED flash, the REAL slippery status of the glass (where they have mentioned it, they make it sound as a minor thing, and that it is NOT) and stuff like that.
Thanks!
No, THANK YOU! A very good and detailed review on battery life. I will keep checking in here to follow your findings. Thanks again.
Hello back.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t quite finish my whole homework. It’s been 2 days, 7 hours of battery running (29% left), I’ll admit most of it the device has been idle, so:
I didn’t fully optimize my workflow.
Haven’t reached 1% yet.
Still, I wanted to report some things I’ve noticed:
Wi-Fi drains your battery like hell. Even with the location-based settings, forget it. It’s better to enable it only for application updates or when you need to download something big. Leave even the weather updates to your mobile network.
Can’t tell for real if 4G (HSPA+)consumes less battery than LTE, to be honest. I’m always on LTE, and it is awesome.
Enable Ultra-STAMINA mode when you go to sleep. It’s a huge saver, and seriously, if you want to sleep, disable interruptions. Probably its activation can be automated with something like IFTTT or Tasker to be enabled at midnight.
Not exactly sure if the Extended standby option of the normal STAMINA mode actually works. Supposedly it disables Mobile and Wi-Fi networks when the screen is off, but whenever I turn it on, the network icons are there immediately, like they’ve never been disabled. At least Wi-Fi icon should take a second or two to appear, instead of being immediately there.
Disabled Lifelog, which was taking a lot of battery after the Screen.
Alright, that’s it for now. Let’s keep walking the path.
On my Z3c the WiFi doesn't drain the battery.. Odd. For the disabling / enabling it's super fast because of the integration of the chip
For example my SBH-80 connects in one second top or even less when my s4 needs 4 or 5 seconds to do the same. Even on the Z Ultra it takes up to 2 seconds.
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Greg2Lu said:
On my Z3c the WiFi doesn't drain the battery.. Odd. For the disabling / enabling it's super fast because of the integration of the chip
For example my SBH-80 connects in one second top or even less when my s4 needs 4 or 5 seconds to do the same. Even on the Z Ultra it takes up to 2 seconds.
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Hmm... well, to me, compared to having Mobile data enabled, Wi-Fi drains the battery more.
Nice to know about the instant connection. My package also came with an SBH20. Gotta try what you said.
Thanks.
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Hmm... well, to me, compared to having Mobile data enabled, Wi-Fi drains the battery more.
Nice to know about the instant connection. My package also came with an SBH20. Gotta try what you said.
Thanks.
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What's an SBH20?
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Hmm... well, to me, compared to having Mobile data enabled, Wi-Fi drains the battery more.
Nice to know about the instant connection. My package also came with an SBH20. Gotta try what you said.
Thanks.
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What, you got a SBH-20 (FYI mab71 it's a Bluetooth Handset ) IN your package ? In the french package the isn't even a pair of Sony MH-750 for the headset, it's just a old pair of headphone that came from '90
It's odd about the WiFi / LTE Because the LTE is known to drain more battery than WiFi in most situation. Do you have a good WiFi signal ? Maybe you could try to change the canal on your modem to optimize your signal, if it become stronger it would be better for the phone and then not pumping too much. But 2-3% a night is not so much anyway
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What, you got a SBH-20 (FYI mab71 it's a Bluetooth Handset ) IN your package ? In the french package the isn't even a pair of Sony MH-750 for the headset, it's just a old pair of headphone that came from '90
It's odd about the WiFi / LTE Because the LTE is known to drain more battery than WiFi in most situation. Do you have a good WiFi signal ? Maybe you could try to change the canal on your modem to optimize your signal, if it become stronger it would be better for the phone and then not pumping too much. But 2-3% a night is not so much anyway
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****! Mine is the old 90s one
I've also come from the g2.had the z3c for over a month now and I do miss a few things. The g2 screen was simply awesome and the led flash light was blinding. The battery is better for me on the z3c, I always have stamina turned on. Unplug at 7 am and by midnight I can still be at 85%. That's with just a bit of usage though. It's also better when I really hammer the battery too (ingress)
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For instance, in the Italian Package, there is a MH-750 headset AND a and OTG cable. I'm not jocking at all, I was astonished when i saw this, especially when the price is lower than for the French people !
I've received today the MDR-NC31EM, it's worth the money, really (30-35 bucks)
Yeah, it might be the signal is bad (although it appears full), but in all instances I’ve witnessed, Wi-Fi drains more battery than my LTE.
Going back to STAMINA, I find its behavior unreliable. I enabled the Extended standby, and I made sure to exclude Facebook from the White listed applications to use background data connection, yet I still keep getting notifications from it. Also on the Developer options, in Process Stats, Facebook keeps getting a 100% runtime, mostly from its MqttPushService service.
I think I will still keep STAMINA on all the time, but I find it weird. I will search these forums for other people’s experience with it, otherwise it’d be wise to create a new Thread just to research into this.
By the way, Greg2Lu, no, the SBH-20 didn’t come IN the package. I bought my phone from my country’s online Sony Store. I paid more than USA price for it, but I thought it was normal imports system ripping me off, which isn’t unusual in my country, but I wanted the phone anyways (and the warranty, should I need it and receive it). What happened was that I received three packages with my purchase: Sony Xperia Z3 Compact (White), an SBH-20 headset, and a 5000 mAh CycleEnergy portable charger. The attached invoice mentioned the correct prices for each item. I would have preferred if they had simply sold me the phone for what it was, instead of bundling me with stuff I didn’t need and making me pay for it. The phone box DID come with a set of MH410c, though, but I bet they are crap, and I already got a good headset anyways.
KaOSoFt said:
Yeah, it might be the signal is bad (although it appears full), but in all instances I’ve witnessed, Wi-Fi drains more battery than my LTE.
Going back to STAMINA, I find its behavior unreliable. I enabled the Extended standby, and I made sure to exclude Facebook from the White listed applications to use background data connection, yet I still keep getting notifications from it. Also on the Developer options, in Process Stats, Facebook keeps getting a 100% runtime, mostly from its MqttPushService service.
I think I will still keep STAMINA on all the time, but I find it weird. I will search these forums for other people’s experience with it, otherwise it’d be wise to create a new Thread just to research into this.
By the way, Greg2Lu, no, the SBH-20 didn’t come IN the package. I bought my phone from my country’s online Sony Store. I paid more than USA price for it, but I thought it was normal imports system ripping me off, which isn’t unusual in my country, but I wanted the phone anyways (and the warranty, should I need it and receive it). What happened was that I received three packages with my purchase: Sony Xperia Z3 Compact (White), an SBH-20 headset, and a 5000 mAh CycleEnergy portable charger. The attached invoice mentioned the correct prices for each item. I would have preferred if they had simply sold me the phone for what it was, instead of bundling me with stuff I didn’t need and making me pay for it. The phone box DID come with a set of MH410c, though, but I bet they are crap, and I already got a good headset anyways.
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Go to settings, data usage, scroll down until you find both facebook and Facebook messenger and untick allow background data. This will stop facebook from updating.
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[*]Permanent notifications: For some reason, some applications like Lifelog and My Data Manager create a kind of immortal notification on the Notifications Bar.
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dude, just deactivate it for these apps, its a checkbox in the app details. Confirmed working for Life Log, thanks for this tip anyway
IMHO, its not an upgrade from G2.
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Go to settings, data usage, scroll down until you find both facebook and Facebook messenger and untick allow background data. This will stop facebook from updating.
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No, I don’t want to disable background data checking forever, that’s why I set specific rules for STAMINA (only when screen is off), problem is somehow Facebook applications seem to skip that.
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dude, just deactivate it for these apps, its a checkbox in the app details. Confirmed working for Life Log, thanks for this tip anyway
IMHO, its not an upgrade from G2.
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I see what you mean. I found another way to disable it through Settings -> Personalization -> Manage notifications.
And yes, it is definitely not an upgrade. I traded screen resolution for more battery (or at least a longer lasting phone), but boy, I couldn’t be happier. A day of full usage, chatting and video and stuff, 18 hours. That’s awesome.
I’m gonna be keeping this baby for a long time.

2017 bluetooth battery drain after update(s)

Ok, I am running a Verizon galaxy s5 sg-m900v with no root (tried but hasn't worked) android 6.0.1.
The last 2 "security updates" have caused my Bluetooth to start destroying the battery. The January update caused the bluetooth to be the highest usage (about double of the next closest thing ). The Feb update seems to have doubled down and now bluetooth is 3x.
I have nothing connected to it, no fitbit, no speakers, no headphones, nothing. For about 20-30 min it does connect to my car, but I don't stream music or anything, just only if I get a call.
When I turn bluetooth off, my battery life is normal, but having to turn it off all day and remember to activate it in the car seems like a ridiculous work around. I have deleted my cache a couple of times but I have not done a factory reset.
In 2016, I had the same problem, that was tracked down to the gas buddy app constantly accessing the bluetooth ( the internet figured that out not me, I just read it). When I disabled the Bluetooth access Gasbuddy then broke so I ended up uninstalling the app altogether.
Unfortunately the search terms "bluetooth battery drain" are so generic that all I get is the threads from last year, and anything current. I already have app that tell me what apps have permission to access Bluetooth but nothing to see which app is actually using it and how much..
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Ok, I am running a Verizon galaxy s5 sg-m900v with no root (tried but hasn't worked) android 6.0.1.
The last 2 "security updates" have caused my Bluetooth to start destroying the battery. The January update caused the bluetooth to be the highest usage (about double of the next closest thing ). The Feb update seems to have doubled down and now bluetooth is 3x.
I have nothing connected to it, no fitbit, no speakers, no headphones, nothing. For about 20-30 min it does connect to my car, but I don't stream music or anything, just only if I get a call.
When I turn bluetooth off, my battery life is normal, but having to turn it off all day and remember to activate it in the car seems like a ridiculous work around. I have deleted my cache a couple of times but I have not done a factory reset.
In 2016, I had the same problem, that was tracked down to the gas buddy app constantly accessing the bluetooth ( the internet figured that out not me, I just read it). When I disabled the Bluetooth access Gasbuddy then broke so I ended up uninstalling the app altogether.
Unfortunately the search terms "bluetooth battery drain" are so generic that all I get is the threads from last year, and anything current. I already have app that tell me what apps have permission to access Bluetooth but nothing to see which app is actually using it and how much..
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I'm seeing something similar on my Galaxy Note 4.
Ok, I have tracked it down, by process of elimination to either 1weather or accuweather. I used advanced permission manager to see all of the apps that hat bluetooth permission, and started uninstalling them.. the reason I can't narrow it down was because I went to uninstall one of them and accidentally click to the other one first. Since they both were on the list I figured no big deal then decided not to reinstall it and went ahead and uninstalled the right one....
Small update, at this moment I am down to 49% today after some fairly heavy use, and my Bluetooth does not even show up as having used any energy. So at this point I'm pretty much going to take this as a win.
Interesting - I've got Accuweather installed too. I'll uninstall it, and see if that makes any difference.
Just for anybody else that stumbles across this thread, I can confirm that Accuweather (Platinum, in my case) was the cause of the excessive Bluetooth battery consumption, so well done @barrysuperhawk on finding that!
I've been in touch with Accuweather, and as of 06 Mar 2017 and they "are aware of the problem", and "are actively working on a solution".
Cheers,
Steve.
Wow.... Months of having this problems, blaming every other app, and now I find this. Yup. Still not fixed. Boo.
Well the way I look at it most of these apps that keep going crazy with Bluetooth don't really have any reason to have access to Bluetooth. The fact that their app is broken and they haven't fixed it indicates to me that they don't really care if I use their app or not so I am happy to oblige by not using their app. I mean it's not like there's not competitive apps that do actually work.

Multiple Wear watches with one phone problems!

Hello everyone.
Is there anyone here with multiple Wear watches (preferably with different Wear versions) paired to a single phone?
I am wondering it it is just me, or anyone else too, that have such problems with watches.
I suspect that since the Wear app v. 2.0 started rolling out, having multiple watches (with different OSs) paired to my phone just started an armageddon.
Before official 2.0, I had devprev on huawei and 1.5 on zw3 and Gwatch. I had ZERO issues, ever. Then, Wear app v. 2.0 update came and it slowly began:
Wear app is going haywire almost every week. I shot few videos, hopefully I will be able to throw them on youtube tonight to showcase what is happening. But basically: I choose a watch and connect it in wear app. App shows connected. I leave for work. At work I notice I dont get notifications. I check the app, and it shows one of few possible screens: trying to connect.. or "Have a watch? set it up" (that is the most hilarious for me ) Or shows a page that would normally show your chosen watch, but it is blank. Everytime I close and open Wear app, it can show something different. It can also be showing "Connected" for a long time, but nothing works. You cant see battery stats, change watchface, nothing...
The last time, I even lost all my paired watches in BT settings. Wear app says "reconnect", ok, it reconnects, but actually isnt connected. Well, I am not sure about that to be honest.. Smart lock works Sometimes, watch says connected too (in Settings-About) The most faulty watches are those with 2.0. But it happened to 1.4 and 1.5 too.
As of right now, only zenwatch3 on 1.5 is working, but, I did a FR yesterday because it wasnt working
I am really f**king fed up with resetting every god damn watch every god damn week so that it can work for a week and then god damn break again!
I am so glad I still keep my Sony SW2 as a backup, this watch works just AWESOME! Wear watches are still nowhere near the ease of usability and reliability of SW2.
EDIT: I uploaded videos of said behaving:
NOone with issues with multiple watches??
Yes, only 1.5 watches still, but I get best results with only one watch powered on at a time, and only one manually chosen to be connected via BT in the phone app. Otherwise, there are frequent connect/disconnect notifications, mysterious quick battery drain, and often conflict between what the phone app says is connected, and what the icons on the watch say about the connection. I occasionally get the "set up your watch" on the phone app as well. I just back out of it, and it's ok.
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Yes, only 1.5 watches still, but I get best results with only one watch powered on at a time, and only one manually chosen to be connected via BT in the phone app. Otherwise, there are frequent connect/disconnect notifications, mysterious quick battery drain, and often conflict between what the phone app says is connected, and what the icons on the watch say about the connection. I occasionally get the "set up your watch" on the phone app as well. I just back out of it, and it's ok.
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Thanks, the symptoms are the same. But it is happening to me even when I have only one watch powered on and only one watch connected to phone. But, 7 watches total are paired. I am starting to think if it is something with BT 4.0 hardware limitations.

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