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so after doing exhaustive research on the subject I was not able to find a definitive thread or answer on the subject of using international sim cards on an unlocked g2. I'm hoping someone here at xda has experience with this and is able to give me advice.
I'm going to be backpacking europe for 5 weeks and want to bring my g2 to use as a computer (while connected to wifi) and making rare calls (just to check in with people at home), htc's website says this phone is quad band and umts http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2#tech-specs but I've never traveled so I'm not sure what to make of it.
any help would be very appreciated!!
edit: called tmobile and they were no help at all, the rep was reading off a script that didnt have much info. looking for personal experience please!
Hi,
G2/Desire Z as you rightly point out will be able to deal with mobile networks in Europe.
The problem you face is that a Sim from county 1 will work Ok in that country but will attract data roaming charges in all other european countries.
That's unless you negotiate something with the operator prior to your purchase regarding both mobile data and call roaming charges.
Chances are you will get a better deal from maybe Germany or perhaps france. Check them both on the web and also check the uk operators and see where you get..
Des. . .
Essential: WHEN will you be going? Because TMO Germany is about to bring up an Europe-wide (or at least Western Europe) roaming-charges-free card. I'll look it up and answer asap. Hold on.
EDIT: TMO Travel & Surf does not include (or not even feature? Not clear from the Article I read) calls. Sorry. PLUS the Prices seem not really good to me. I haven't found anything you're looking for in Germany yet. Could do with it as well. Greez, mwrsa
I will be travelling march-april. I guess what my question is, once they send me my unlock code and I unlock my phone to use the international sim, I will not be tied at all to tmobile or their roaming charges unless I put my original sim card back in the phone is that correct?
does anyone have any recommendations what carriers are the best? I'll be going to UK, France, Netherlands, Germany, Czech, and Spain
well I can't speak for europe I'm currently out of my home country with my DZ, I unlocked it with gfree, which I would reccomend. also its definetly cheaper to use a local simcard from where every you are travelling, there's no getting around roaming charges and insane rates if your going international. I personally picked up a free ATT card here where I am and paid 20 bucks for 100mb of data, since calling and texting is still expensive I communicate through "whatsapp" with my wife and family . it worrks on data or wifi, let's u send and receive pics and videos and uses a surprisingly tiny amount of data to do so. id honestly reccomend this route so long as your family has a whatsapp compatible device, currently its available for blackberry,droid,and iphone.
sorry I can't be more help but with "real life" experience I found this to be the best route. if u need voice, its still cheaper to pickup a 20dollar long distance calling card and use the hotel phones. or skype app when your on wifi.
hope it helps a bit! and have a safe trip!
ptesmoke
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Problem is, that at least with German SIM-Cards, you need an adress here in germany ti register the card to your name. Austria and GB have "3" as a network operator. AFAIK they have a sim-card with no roaming fees where "3" is available as a network.
Hi,
I'll be going through europe this summer. The suggestion of getting a local PAYG sim is good, on the face of it. Unless you are going to be in that country for just a few days (as I will be) then, perhaps, it is more aggravation to get the sims than pay roaming.
A sim from Germany - if it was to include some country roaming - from either O2 or T-Mobile or even Voda - may be an answer.
Very much depends on how long you will be in each country I guess.
A week+ stay in each country, and a sim from each country when you get there could week prove to be your way forward.
Des. . .
HI,
This is worth a read. Gives you some idea as to prices and amounts:
Roaming Data Charges - UK Accounts...
Des. . .
As far as band compatibility, the important thing is that your phone is compatible with the bands used in Europe. Looks like Europe uses the 900 and 1800 MHz GSM bands just about everywhere for voice, and UMTS 2100 for 3G. The G2 has GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900; and UMTS 1700/2100, 2100. So you're good to go as far as the hardware compatibility.
International sim card
Hello!
Have you ever heard about international sim cards? In my opinion is the best solution to save on roaming charges!
Personally I use WorldSIm, they have both a UK and US number in the same sim card and have free incoming calls in over 90 countries.
There are more like this in the market but I can only speak about what I already now and I'm very happy with.
Hope it helps!
I'm about to buy a xoom in the US without any contract. I would go for the 3G one (Verizon but without contract). Do you guys think I will be able to use it after unlocking? Do I need to unlock anyway, since it's without contract? Like the ones in Best Buy?
Tks for your inputs.
Cheers
Andrew
i think there should be no problem. I have us wifi xoom.... but one year ago i bought us nexus-one and there was no problem in using the 3g in europe (same freq).
or..maybe you are asking about 'provider sim-lock ' then i dont have an answer... but i believe its doable
Hi,
You can not use 3G from USA in Europe other frequencies and modulation methods, Wifi is okay
I also bought a US 3G (Verizon) model without contract and am using it in South Africa, but wifi only. The Verizion 3G works on the CDMA network whereas AFAIK Europe (as is South Africa) works on the GSM network so 3G is not going to work. The CDMA network works sim free so I'm not even sure if the sim slot is currently active and will probably only be activated for the 4G rollout.
If you buy it without contract there is however no need to unlock it or register it on the Verizon network to use wifi.
Thanks guys. I was thinking the same way as the mobiles are working here very well with EU GSM 3G, but the tab is not for the GSM as there is no phone function. Since I have my nice HTC HD2 with android and 3G, I will be able to share internet to the tab where wifi is not available. And of course the wifi version is much cheaper. Thanks again.
Snapdragon 801 has support for dual sim dual active connection
If Samsung will bring us a version with dual sim and ip67 my money will go to Sammy!!!
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It might exist but only on China or India markets. The rest of the world doesn't care to have two sims.
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I haven't seen any S% which is dual sim yet.
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But Htc one dual sim exist. There is a big possibility that Samsung will follow the trend...(just rember that Samsung has S4 active experience so S5 is waterproof, and there is S4mini dual sim.
I don't live in so called mature market (us,UK,de,etc) but I live in European Union contry and I have a problem: I need to carry 2 phones all the time becaouse I have a phone from my employer and one personal. My employer does not give me internet acces. In that situation all my problems will be gone with a flagship dual sim...
P.S. I owned all the flagships from Samsung original S to S4, all the note series, xperia Z1 and xperia Z ultra and Galaxy gear. ATM I use S4mini dual for work+second sim for Internet and Z Ultra for everything else.
P.P.S. If Samsung will go out with S5 dual sim I will be the first to preorder.
Since Dual SIM is mostly popular in not rich countries that use prepaid those phones are usually low cost and therefore have low specifications that is why flagship phones like S5 will not have Dual SIM. Do you need full Dual SIM or you just want to swith between them. I am using dual SIM adapter.
I will not be a fan of S5 dual SIM. The S5 is perfect as it is. And having dual SIM will just lower its specs.
I disagree with your opinion. Tje chinese version of S5 dual sim is exactly like the international version. Too bad they don't release a international version...
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Yeah! I saw it, it's only available in china Telecom
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dual-SIM-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Goes-Official-in-China-436041.shtml
I'm also waiting for this phone to come out. I'm currently using HTC one dual sim. No complain about it except the camera. Hope Samsung S5 camera is better.
The specs are the same as the none dual sim. One thing we're not sure is the built in memory, it does not say on gsmarena.
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Adapter?
anubius said:
Since Dual SIM is mostly popular in not rich countries that use prepaid those phones are usually low cost and therefore have low specifications that is why flagship phones like S5 will not have Dual SIM. Do you need full Dual SIM or you just want to swith between them. I am using dual SIM adapter.
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Hello,
You mentioned a DS adapter. I take it that means you needs at least one SIM card spot available or is there an alternative. Such as a schematic for a HW setup that interfaces to the device without a slot available. I'm American with opportunities to work and live in Brazil. Sprint 's CDMA is ok for the US, but my SGSIII was not able to write GSM PRLs ( and function) and my phone was worthless there.
I was hoping that some commonality between HW revisions (every single business model supports this concept, why not here??) where Samsung could atleast use the same PCB footprints and populate components as needed for regional readiness.
Any ideas for my situation are welcomed... Or, should I say a univrsal situations.
In most countries the 9009 is useless as the 2nd sim is for CDMA only, we'll have to wait and see if china will release a 9002 version with both sim socket to support GSM and 3G.
The S3 (i9302), S4 (i9502), Note 2 (N7102) and Note 3 (N9002) all have the dual sim version, so I expect the S5 to have it soon.
Second Internal Cell Support
kms108 said:
In most countries the 9009 is useless as the 2nd sim is for CDMA only, we'll have to wait and see if china will release a 9002 version with both sim socket to support GSM and 3G.
The S3 (i9302), S4 (i9502), Note 2 (N7102) and Note 3 (N9002) all have the dual sim version, so I expect the S5 to have it soon.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems most/all varients will have GSMx on 1 and CDMAx (in my case) as 2 on standy by. I see SIM as the easiest way to switch between, but if carriers such as Oi (Brasil) has PRLs that can be first unhidden and then wrote as the radio it would solve some issues. I just believe SIM technology is simlplier and less work involved (to obtain the PRLs).
Since we can put our phones on other carriers Sprint to Verision for example, that should apply on supported GSM network also? I was just stuck on my Sprint SGSIII having no ability to deviate from the BS CDMA networks...
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titawgo said:
I'm also waiting for this phone to come out. I'm currently using HTC one dual sim. No complain about it except the camera. Hope Samsung S5 camera is better.
The specs are the same as the none dual sim. One thing we're not sure is the built in memory, it does not say on gsmarena.
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Sure the camera HW is better with stills and video (boo on the 1X zoom though). SW optimization (including Build Prop changes )and better applications will drive overall pix quality and reference. The question will be how much, my SGSIII is far better for both than any iPiece around, IMO......
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems most/all varients will have GSMx on 1 and CDMAx (in my case) as 2 on standy by. I see SIM as the easiest way to switch between, but if carriers such as Oi (Brasil) has PRLs that can be first unhidden and then wrote as the radio it would solve some issues. I just believe SIM technology is simlplier and less work involved (to obtain the PRLs).
Since we can put our phones on other carriers Sprint to Verision for example, that should apply on supported GSM network also? I was just stuck on my Sprint SGSIII having no ability to deviate from the BS CDMA networks...
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Sure the camera HW is better with stills and video (boo on the 1X zoom though). SW optimization (including Build Prop changes )and better applications will drive overall pix quality and reference. The question will be how much, my SGSIII is far better for both than any iPiece around, IMO......
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From my understanding
model number ending with 2
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA
sim 2 GSM
model number ending with 9
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA (roaming only)/CDMA
sim 2 GSM
Sprint Specific #'s or all Variants
kms108 said:
From my understanding
model number ending with 2
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA
sim 2 GSM
model number ending with 9
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA (roaming only)/CDMA
sim 2 GSM[/QUOTE
And the rest have no SIM access? Such as the SM-G900P (suspected Sprint ) variant not having SIM access correct?
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Fly-n-High said:
kms108 said:
From my understanding
model number ending with 2
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA
sim 2 GSM
model number ending with 9
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA (roaming only)/CDMA
sim 2 GSM[/QUOTE
And the rest have no SIM access? Such as the SM-G900P (suspected Sprint ) variant not having SIM acess correct?
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if you want one to access the sprint network, I think you will have to get the phone from sprint, if they have one, the G9009 only support cdma 800 from the chinese provider, I think it's locked to the network.
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Sprint + GSM
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Fly-n-High said:
if you want one to access the sprint network, I think you will have to get the phone from sprint, if they have one, the G9009 only support cdma 800 from the chinese provider, I think it's locked to the network.
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Essentially I see that I’m forced under that scenario (which is fine), but just interested in knowing if it will internally support GSM on its secondary antenna and how versatile (will it support in PRL (or equal) development on most or all GSM supported networks, specifically Brazil and Italy) it will be. Also the difficulty to change between 1 &2, if there is any. Thanks
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kms108 said:
Essentially I see that I’m forced under that scenario (which is fine), but just interested in knowing if it will internally support GSM on its secondary antenna and how versatile (will it support in PRL (or equal) development on most or all GSM supported networks, specifically Brazil and Italy) it will be. Also the difficulty to change between 1 &2, if there is any. Thanks
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These are the actual bands for the g9009 on the china telecom network.
sim 1
CDMA 800MHz
WCDMA 850/1900/2100MHz will only pickup signal whiles roaming
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
sim 2
GSM 900/1800/1900MHz
if you have used dual sim phones before, you will have no problem with this, when receiving call, it will indicate which sim with the icon 1 or 2.
when making a call through the dialing pad, there is a icon sim 1 or sim 2 to send.
when making a call through the phone book, as soon as you press the telephone number, there is a pop up to select which sim you want to make the call from.
There are other alternative with the slide down menu or through a widget.
all these are from my i9192, but should be the same.
hopefully they will bring out a g9002 version and not have gsm only for sim 2, but if this is for china market it seems to be the case, at present it seems like the i9192 (S4 mini dual sim) is the only samsung phone that support WCDMA and GSM in both sim 1 and 2 if i'm guessing correctly.
Here is that phone we dream of:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5_dualsim_version_hits_china-news-8222.php
However this phone will not see the light of the day in other countries besides China. Sad. I actually have some strong arguments against S5 due to dual sim adapter which I like to use. Probably using this adapter might affect the water resistance capabiluty. Since everything is so tightly packed under the cover when adding dual sim adapter there is a risk of leaking the water in since it might cause the cover not to close very tight. This is what I currently have in S4. So it is water resistance or ability to switch between sim cards. Choice is yours.
Questions about s5 dual SIM
Hi folks I have many questions....
Where as possible buy the S5 dual SIM?
The model is G9009D?
What the frequency for 4G/LTE? Here in Brazil the frequency is 2600.
Can I use both SIM card for GSM?
Has Google Play?
Has english language?
emersonvier said:
Hi folks I have many questions....
Where as possible buy the S5 dual SIM?
The model is G9009D?
What the frequency for 4G/LTE? Here in Brazil the frequency is 2600.
Can I use both SIM card for GSM?
Has Google Play?
Has english language?
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read through the thread, the info has been posted.
hi,
lets talk about the "D" (G9009D) I think its means Dual-Sim no more "2"(G9002) and it will be conflict with N9002 note 3 if thy use "2"
from my understanding this phone will work in china as CDMA 800MHz(using china telecom sim) and will work as WCDMA 850/1900/2100 MHz out side china if using any els provider sim.
please correct me if i am wrong,and if some can confirm
Hi all,
I live in Morocco and I got the OnePlus 2 A2001 with dual sims, but I just read something in the OnePlus 2 forums about the A2001 version saying that you can't use dual sim cards on this version outside of China. What does this mean? That I can't use 2 sim cards at the same time? Or I can put in the phone 2 sim cards but only choose one in the options that I want to work with.
Thank you!
Silvers91 said:
Hi all,
I live in Morocco and I got the OnePlus 2 A2001 with dual sims, but I just read something in the OnePlus 2 forums about the A2001 version saying that you can't use dual sim cards on this version outside of China. What does this mean? That I can't use 2 sim cards at the same time? Or I can put in the phone 2 sim cards but only choose one in the options that I want to work with.
Thank you!
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Dual sim works as it should but you are bound to chinese networks...
All works perfectly
Yash98 said:
Dual sim works as it should but you are bound to chinese networks...
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I live in Ukraine and I have two sims of local operators (Kyivstar and MTS).
All works perfectly, both calls and data (3G).
Cant tell about LTE - there's no LTE in Ukraine yet
Mine works fine with 2 sim cards and I don't live in China.
I'm using o2 3g hspa+ and EE 2g on the A2001. Vodafone 4g works too apparently.
you can use both sim cards with A2001, you're not bound to "chinese" networks, but rather to asian networks. i live in oman and able to use 2 sim cards. i've heard people from europe that can use both sim cards with A2001 model. It is just what LTE frequency your country operates.
use this website to verify http://www.willmyphonework.net/
Just hope you're not using IAM MOROCCO network as it doesnt support LTE with the ONEPLUS Two
Hi all.
Does any one know if there is a plan to release Dual Sim variant ?
Thank you.
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Yes the H990ds V20 Dual SIM TD-LTE
For anyone At&t, frequencycheck.com says it misses half the LTE bands
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EMSpilot said:
Yes the H990ds V20 Dual SIM TD-LTE
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That's great but who can actually sell me one. This phone seems to be like rocking horse droppings, talked about but non existent :crying:
I dropped my V10 from one foot last week and something internal has gone making a section of the screen dark. No cracks dents or otherwise - so much for the mil-spec six foot drop test rating....
Desperately need a replacement and the timing seemed prescient until it has become apparent that LG doesn't want to make hay whilst the sun shines over Samsung's nightmare !
If anyone knows where a dual sim lurks, please let me know
Philippines v20 is dual SIM. And if the sales person is right, doesnt share w sdcard like the note 7
Hong Kong and Taiwan version of LG V20 will probably be a dual sim version and both of them will be announced in 20/10, perhaps you can get one in the near future via parallel import.
jan george said:
it seems that the slot of microSD is also used as second sim slot like G5..
Any ideas??
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Did you really have to spam every other post here with this question?
And the answer is no, different hardware, pins, whatever you want to call it.
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Philippines v20 is dual SIM. And if the sales person is right, doesnt share w sdcard like the note 7
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I can also confirm that the V20 in Philippines is dual sim. LG concept store called me yesterday to inform me that the LG V20 is dual sim (they called because the initial specs says only single sim and wanted to confirm if I still wanted to pre-order). and yes I was also told that the micro sd slot doesn't share the sim2 slot (they say they already have the demo units and they have checked)
In the specs here
http://www.lg.com/ph/mobile-phones/lg-V20-titan
It calls it True Dual SIM which to me is a nudge at those who share with the SD card - in my opinion one of the dumbest things designers ever came up with. Hmm I'll make a Dual sim for the heavy duty users and remove their storage expansion....
So I've been seriously considering this phone. It seems that the Taiwan version (H990DS) is the one to get as it supports more North American bands, unlike the Hong Kong version (H990N). I've been scouring the web trying to find a user manual for either of them, but LG hasn't posted it yet, only the US versions. One of the things I've come across is that it appears as if the 2nd sim slot only supports 3G, not LTE. Does anybody have one of these yet to confirm or deny it? FYI, I'm in Canada, but travel to the US quite a bit where I use the T-Mobile $3/day plan. It sucks having to pop the back off and swap cards every time I cross the border, but if it's true that the 2nd slot only supports 3G, then I might as well get the single sim version.
may i know does anyone have any info regarding the dual sim version configuration ?
which is it below ?
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 2G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 3G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- SIM 1 always on/have 4G/3G/2G the SIM 2 always only 2G (non switchable !!)
I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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sorry to ask but can you add in the specifics ... what you are saying are when on standby time and that we all know (which clears out my option 3) but what i want to know is the moment you surf on 4G or call (either sim) what does the other sim becomes ?
drops to 3G or 2G ?
this is important to me as 2G will phase out end this year in my country so if this phone will drop to 2G means its useless to me and show no signal.
side note i saw a posting on the Philippines version it stated that the second sim is only on 2G
source ---> http://www.phonemore.com/phone/lg-v20-h990ds-dual/2847
when one sim is in use the other sim is disabled, but since i only have 2 3G sim, the othere sim still stays on 3G but is not usable.
I think only a handful of phones can do 2 sim active, they are all chinese brand.
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I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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Hey, could you list the LTE bands? Thinking of importing this version for ATT.
Gsm 850/900/1800/1900
wcdma 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
td-scdma 1900/2000
lte b1/b2/b3/b4/b5/b7/b8/b12/b17/b20/b26/b28/b38/b39/b40/b41
It is always the case that one sim can run at 4g while another at 3g, i got 990N
At least there is improvement, it was the mi 5 that was the first phone, if you are talking about a none chinese brand, sony xperia XP the first note 7, then V20.
I got the Taiwan 990ds for 2 days and love it!
It supports 4G+3G (switchable between SIM1 or SIM2), meaning both sims will function in countries with 3G and above only. It also has separate TF card slot unlike the Samsung Note 7/S7 Edge which sacrifices SIM2 when using TF.
Fingerprint sensor is much faster than V10 and battery life is amazing compared to V10 (used for 16 hrs with a few hours of browsing and 2+ hours call, messaging, etc still with 10% battery left.... Forgot to check SOT though).
It is definitely a few notches better than the V10 and the S7 Edge (which I somehow didn't like the grip), and possibly on par with the Note 7 (iris scanner is way way better the finger prints!).
Now, if only we can get root it will be perfect!
zylem said:
may i know does anyone have any info regarding the dual sim version configuration ?
which is it below ?
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 2G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- when one sim on 4G (browsing or VoLTE) the other Sim drops to 3G (both sim switchable with in phone sim management)
or
- SIM 1 always on/have 4G/3G/2G the SIM 2 always only 2G (non switchable !!)
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kms108 said:
I have the hong kong version H990N, both sim supports 4G+3G, 3G+3G or 2G simultaneous on either sim 1 or sim 2, if anyone needs the specs of supporting bands on this model, please let me know.
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Could I get you to check if the 990N has allot of languages avalible or only a few? Is Dansk/Danish avalible?
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