Features Lost With Nougat? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey I just had a few questions when it came to flashing a custom Nougat ROM at the moment. If anyone could answer them that would be great I am on stock Marshmallow right now and not rooted or anything. But I am thinking about flashing a custom ROM if there are benefits.
What features do we lose when we are coming from stock? (Moto Display/Gestures mainly)
How's the battery life compared to stock?
Any issues calls/texts/signal/wifi/bluetooth?
Is there an audio problem with most of the ROMs?
How is the camera on Nougat?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance to those that respond

Jyjieng11 said:
Hey I just had a few questions when it came to flashing a custom Nougat ROM at the moment. If anyone could answer them that would be great I am on stock Marshmallow right now and not rooted or anything. But I am thinking about flashing a custom ROM if there are benefits.
What features do we lose when we are coming from stock? (Moto Display/Gestures mainly)
How's the battery life compared to stock?
Any issues calls/texts/signal/wifi/bluetooth?
Is there an audio problem with most of the ROMs?
How is the camera on Nougat?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance to those that respond
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Whether or not you will benefit from a custom ROM will depend on you and your expectations.
Ambient display is the alternative/replacement to Moto display and some ROMs and add-ons allow for gestures.
As far as your other questions, these vary from ROM to ROM and user to user and the set ups they have (apps, kernel, customization, etc.) The best thing to do is read through the threads for the various nougat Roms and determine for yourself if they will meet your specific requirements...then test them for yourself.

aybarrap1 said:
Whether or not you will benefit from a custom ROM will depend on you and your expectations.
Ambient display is the alternative/replacement to Moto display and some ROMs and add-ons allow for gestures.
As far as your other questions, these vary from ROM to ROM and user to user and the set ups they have (apps, kernel, customization, etc.) The best thing to do is read through the threads for the various nougat Roms and determine for yourself if they will meet your specific requirements...then test them for yourself.
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Thanks for the reply. I know I made a really big generalization here I was just wondering with other people's mileage whether Nougat helped there battery life or not, etc. But thank you

Here's the lowdown:
As far as features, you would probably gain a few that you don't really need (like the ability to use themes, and control the audio levels) and battery will be roughly the same, if not a little worse usually (stock ROM is more optimized). A few features will be slightly different (like ambient display instead of moto display) and you'll also gain access to the hidden LED inside the top speaker of this phone. That's right, the MXPE has a notification LED! Can you even imagine? But it's there!
LineageOS is a good choice if you want to test out nougat, it's very stable at this point and is easily the cleanest ROM in my opinion (no bloat, feels like stock android). Battery life is pretty good but it drains a lot more on standby than stock does. Remember when you flash a non-stock rom you will also have to flash google apps. I like the stock or "super" options because they also give you the pixel launcher.
Root adds a whole new world of possibilities, with the ability to modify or add functionality you wouldn't normally be able to access. Like changing CPU governors (for better battery or better performance). LineageOS comes unrooted, and personally I keep it that way for maximum app compatibility (Pokémon Go, many streaming video services, and some banking apps don't work with rooted devices). If you wanted to play with root you could flash the root .zip file or just flash supersu like I think most people on XDA do.
As far as issues, every ROM has different quirks. I can tell you that often times the hardware drivers for custom ROMs can be hit-or-miss. Right now LineageOS (and anything based on LOS) is very stable and doesn't have many bugs, but that can change anytime. Any time your ROM updates it could potentially add a new quirk/bug. As of the latest nightly (2/21/17) I have not seen any significant bugs. No issues with Bluetooth or cell service (AT&T) and all gestures work (twist for camera, chop for flashlight, wave hand over screen to silence ring, ambient display, etc) GPS also works well. The only quirks I've noticed on this build is the camera takes a little longer to start up (sometimes up to 7 seconds) and occasionally my cell signal will say I have zero bars for a few seconds even though I still have service (no dropped calls/dropped web pages/etc).

Sean89us said:
Here's the lowdown:
As far as features, you would probably gain a few that you don't really need (like the ability to use themes, and control the audio levels) and battery will be roughly the same, if not a little worse usually (stock ROM is more optimized). A few features will be slightly different (like ambient display instead of moto display) and you'll also gain access to the hidden LED inside the top speaker of this phone. That's right, the MXPE has a notification LED! Can you even imagine? But it's there!
LineageOS is a good choice if you want to test out nougat, it's very stable at this point and is easily the cleanest ROM in my opinion (no bloat, feels like stock android). Battery life is pretty good but it drains a lot more on standby than stock does. Remember when you flash a non-stock rom you will also have to flash google apps. I like the stock or "super" options because they also give you the pixel launcher.
Root adds a whole new world of possibilities, with the ability to modify or add functionality you wouldn't normally be able to access. Like changing CPU governors (for better battery or better performance). LineageOS comes unrooted, and personally I keep it that way for maximum app compatibility (Pokémon Go, many streaming video services, and some banking apps don't work with rooted devices). If you wanted to play with root you could flash the root .zip file or just flash supersu like I think most people on XDA do.
As far as issues, every ROM has different quirks. I can tell you that often times the hardware drivers for custom ROMs can be hit-or-miss. Right now LineageOS (and anything based on LOS) is very stable and doesn't have many bugs, but that can change anytime. Any time your ROM updates it could potentially add a new quirk/bug. As of the latest nightly (2/21/17) I have not seen any significant bugs. No issues with Bluetooth or cell service (AT&T) and all gestures work (twist for camera, chop for flashlight, wave hand over screen to silence ring, ambient display, etc) GPS also works well. The only quirks I've noticed on this build is the camera takes a little longer to start up (sometimes up to 7 seconds) and occasionally my cell signal will say I have zero bars for a few seconds even though I still have service (no dropped calls/dropped web pages/etc).
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Thanks for all the information that really helped me out. I will most likely stay stock due to the fact that battery life is important to me. It's hard to get good battery when the phone is in your pocket and doze doesn't work during movement.

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[Q] Best setup for basic phone functions

I've searched around these forums and read up a bit about the different ROMs and kernels. I'm no power user. I won't be playing games or downloading tons of apps. What apps/roms/kernels should I get to optimize these features in this order?
Calling
battery life
texting
speed/responsiveness
sound quality
connectivity
Thanks.
jamus28 said:
I've searched around these forums and read up a bit about the different ROMs and kernels. I'm no power user. I won't be playing games or downloading tons of apps. What apps/roms/kernels should I get to optimize these features in this order?
Calling
battery life
texting
speed/responsiveness
sound quality
connectivity
Thanks.
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Calling: I recommend Dialer One. Its free on the market.
Battery Life: I would turn off auto sync and would only leave wifi on when using it. Adjusting screen brightness down will also help with battery life. Also, any widgets that use an update service will use battery as well. Turning off notifications and automatic update services in apps helps too.
Speed/Responsiveness: If you're comfortable flashing custom roms than the CM6/7 roms cant be beat for speed. Also an alternate home launcher can help out here too, I prefer LauncherPro (free on market), but Go Launcher EX (free) is also an excellent launcher and is a little more up to date.
Sound Quality: The CM roms come with a built equalizer.
Connectivity: While I dont have any connectivity issues using the custom roms for this phone, there are people that do...
BUT...at the end of the day, the stock rom is whats suitable for 99% of the population and if you're not wanting to ever have any issues ever, than I'd recommend staying stock.

How stable/reliable is the S5 running CM12.1/13?

Hi all,
Currently looking for an upgrade from my Moto G and have a specific list of requirements (long-ish battery life, cheap-ish, ideally fast charging, ideally ANT+, ideally waterproof, accurate GPS for tracking runs) which the S5 seems to meet well. Only thing I dont think I could live with is TouchWiz (and the assosciated lag I would expect it would bring with it).
My question: how is CM running on these devices with regards stability and force closes etc. Can live with a small dip in camera quality and having never had a fingerprint scanner I wont miss it but really need a rock solid, stable device. Is there a better alternative out there (am also closely considering the Zuk - but not waterproof and possibly patchy GPS - and the Moto X Play - slightly more expensive and reports of lag)?
I'm currently running CM13 on my KLTE, and it honestly seems fine.
Battery life is just under 4hrs SOT.
It charges pretty fast IMO (About an hour and a little bit with a constant 1800mA @ 4.5V)
Though was I've read in a quick Google search is that CM doesn't support ANT+ ever since the s4 branch.
Never had issues when the phone's been blessed with water, Its a pretty tight seal all around.
GPS is accurate. I usually get a fix within the first ten seconds. Mind you I use GPS Status to download AGPS info to help.
I rarely get force closes but there are the occasional soft reboots with the phone, which seems to put it in a boot-loop when it does. But that could be my configuration of Xposed and other modifications that do that.
i dont like the in-use battery life at all, deep sleep life is insanely improved on CM13 i assume due to doze, you can buy third party extra large batteries that are also a replacement for the back cover
cm-12.1-20151226-NIGHTLY-klte = quite stable, think i had only a couple minor bugs, no crashes, my baseband is a little old, i tried some gps app from fdroid during a walk & it was as if the calibration kept changing... i passed the same spot more than once, it would be too far north one time then too far southeast another time & so on, but maybe it was storing literal data points (some other apps, especially map apps i would assume they might auto align themselves to roads), crashed the camera when using opencamera too fast or switching between it & stock camera, opencamera couldnt do 60 or 120fps videos even though the option was set
cm-13.0-20160116-NIGHTLY-klte = turning flashlight off kills camera (& the flashlight tile) until reboot, i was going through menus fast or something, the status bar crashed & then soft reboot was frozen on the loading face icon, i was hoping snapdragoncamera was enabled cuz i see it in changelogs, but i still see stock camera unfortunately...
charging is quite fast, from 0 to ~80% at least (this is normal for about every device anyway)
i havent tried any other versions yet, i dont have gapps, only been web browsing in lightning browser (from fdroid), trying kernel adiutor, notepad, little bit of camera, i dont have a SIM card yet, hope it works fine...
i believe i saw a modified TW rom that keeps the TW framework, but visually tries to be AOSP, the purpose of course is to be able to use the samsung camera & some of the other proprietary apps/features
My build is a KLTEusc smg900r4, with cm13, on first boot I had issues with the access points to the mobile network, but after I input one access point it found the rest on its own, only other issue is when sending long text messages it doesn't go through from some reason, overall very proud of it, much better than touchwiz

Which Rom, Kernel, etc combo = Best Smooth / Battery Life / Cold Temperature Device ?

I tried to make a decision reading this forum but everyone had a different idea. Below you can see what I need. I beg of you. Please do suggest the best software combo I could use to achieve the following multitasking (at least those 4): Listening to Spotify, Internet Browsing, Whatsapp messaging and VOIP/sip (a service that must run all the time), BUT! without having my hands burned from the cpu/battery's temperature, or at most just 2 hours of a battery lifetime while doing that.
1) I do not care if my phone graphics turn into pacman or Android version 0.1beta.
2) I do not care if I lose the entire Cam's functionality.
3) I do not care about unlocking with double knock
4) I do not care about IR control
5) I do not care about LED functionality
6) I do not care about speakers sound quality (I could even get used to 8 bit sound or low volume sound. I can hear very well xD)
7) I do not care if my phone self restarts randomly 2-3 times a day.
but
1) I do care if phone shutdowns, or totally stops responding, or services hang without auto-restarting.
2) I do care if 3g/4g/data stop functioning
3) I do care about flash functionality
4) I do care about 3.5 jack headphones sound
Thank youuu!
I would suggest using the stock euro 30f Rom combine with dorimanxs 11.1 kernel in battery mode.
I use my phone similarly with this combination and I can assure you, it is the best.
On cm13 stock kernel my phone is always cool and the SOT is 5.5h+
IceAndroid_g2 said:
On cm13 stock kernel my phone is always cool and the SOT is 5.5h+
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Have you tried Bliss ROM to compare to CM13?
Install the latest lollipop version stock rom for your variant, debloat, install dorimanx kernel, install amplify and greenify. And you are all set.
Or you can use any custom rom with dorimanx , amplify and greenify.
With these, you will get at most 5 hour SoT.
LMK if you need further assistance.

The Last Rom for my beloved OP2

Hi folks,
Since my OP5 will arrive today, i want to prepare my OP2 for giveaway.
Actually i am on Ressurection Remix android 6 and looking for the last rom to flash.
I would like to see a Nougat rom( Not necessary, Marshmallow i also ok, but not below) with a simple UI and more important, a great battery life. Since i am giving the phone to my dad(no Power user^^, he even doesnt use cellular data just WIFI) I am also looking for kernel settings saving energy with downvolting or other settings. Basically the phone just should be able to handle Line and other messaging services, calling, camera and a little bit of surfing.
If Somebody has suggestion what to flash, setup in Kernel settings and/or other "hacks" improving battery setting to the max(while still smooth) i am Thankful
Best regards
screamor said:
Hi folks,
Since my OP5 will arrive today, i want to prepare my OP2 for giveaway.
Actually i am on Ressurection Remix android 6 and looking for the last rom to flash.
I would like to see a Nougat rom( Not necessary, Marshmallow i also ok, but not below) with a simple UI and more important, a great battery life. Since i am giving the phone to my dad(no Power user^^, he even doesnt use cellular data just WIFI) I am also looking for kernel settings saving energy with downvolting or other settings. Basically the phone just should be able to handle Line and other messaging services, calling, camera and a little bit of surfing.
If Somebody has suggestion what to flash, setup in Kernel settings and/or other "hacks" improving battery setting to the max(while still smooth) i am Thankful
Best regards
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Cosmic OS is good currently i am on that one.....but if you are looking for lil better battery go for Flyme 6 official one IN version.
Personally the easiest way to keep him up to date would be with lineage and using a lineage updater from the play store. That way he will always have the security updates.
If you're giving it to someone who doesn't know about custom roms and stuff, I think it's best to leave it stock, as it is reliable and mostly stable.
With that kind of usage, I would say unofficial lineage by seraph08 with franco kernel with all the battery life labs option turned on and naptime.
For the purposes you listed, here's the setup I'd recommend:
Stock OOS 3.6.0
Boeffla Kernel w/ The Peterle's Impulse tuned v 3.1 profile
Naptime
Network set to 2G (or 3G, whatever's the lowest available on his network)
I've set up an OP2 with a similar set up and have got an easy 5-6 hr SOT.
screamor said:
Hi folks,
Since my OP5 will arrive today, i want to prepare my OP2 for giveaway.
Actually i am on Ressurection Remix android 6 and looking for the last rom to flash.
I would like to see a Nougat rom( Not necessary, Marshmallow i also ok, but not below) with a simple UI and more important, a great battery life. Since i am giving the phone to my dad(no Power user^^, he even doesnt use cellular data just WIFI) I am also looking for kernel settings saving energy with downvolting or other settings. Basically the phone just should be able to handle Line and other messaging services, calling, camera and a little bit of surfing.
If Somebody has suggestion what to flash, setup in Kernel settings and/or other "hacks" improving battery setting to the max(while still smooth) i am Thankful
Best regards
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XENON XD is all you need

Personal comparison, let me know which one you like best and which one you recommend

I have been switching between different ROMs in the past four months, I'm now a long time redmi 3 user since I have mine since it came out in 2015, even though is smashed a lot I have no plans for a new phone at this time LOL
Let's go to the point
Resurrection Remix 5.8.5
A nice ROM, everything works right after installing and is pretty smooth, in terms of customization this one has everything you can imagine and you can't too
what did I like
The posibilities of tweaking the status bar, plus it gives your phone a longer life span in terms of software, as it will get longer support.
Doze mode
What I did not like
UI Lagging/stuttering eventually, when using chrome and typing something in a webpage is such a nightmare (this happens always), as the text takes up to 5 seconds to appear
CPU Sleeping bugs sometimes, soemtimes it takes a longer time to wake the processor, causing an unbearable lag, is eventually fixed by locking and unlocking the screen again. and sometimes i have to force reboot
Bluetooth battery barely shows on random devices, and is not accurate
Lockscreen (I like AOSP a lot, but the lockscreen replacing your wallpaper when music is playing is just ridiculous)
Camera lacks some image quality
MIUI 8.1.1.0 by Xiaomi.eu
The ROM I probably will keep using for a really long time, has no rival in terms of smoothness, and offers longer battery time no matter what you use it for, and what is better, without letting you down on performance. Even is on Lollipop, this one keeps pleasing me
What I Like
Performance, the UI is smooth and launcher never lags
Battery life, I'm a heavy user and this by far lasts longer than any other, is obvious at this was specially designed for the chip it runs on
Integrated Clean Master/CM Security/Whatever it is
Themes, endless personalization out-of-the-box
specific Xposed Framework for MIUI (by @SolarWarez) newer versions have always conflicted with themes and modules
XMIUI by the same developer, no words needed, is the GravityBox for MIUI plus extra functionality
Lockscreen, I like the album art over the screen, not as background and the player as notification
Hidden CPU power mode selection (Use QuiclShortcutMaker to access it, removed on newer versions above 8.1.1.0)
What I did not like
I'm using a non OEM replacement display and very often I have to force-reboot (in RR it bugs but at least I can get to the reboot option and reboot safely)
Could be Marshmallow at least
Some weird bugs when using Magisk (I use system root as I don't give a damn about SafetyNet)
After dalvik cleaning some apps have a "rough start"
I remember having the best battery life (with the screen off) with RR-UNTEST, but eventually I gave up and budged myself back over to MIUI 9. There's honestly not much reason to use MIUI 8 outside of being able to use xMIUI, but if you're fine without what it brings then honestly the xiaomi.eu rom is pretty much the best one to go for. This phone is essentially good as dead now, unfortunately. If I remember correctly, Xiaomi have announced that it's not going to be receiving a major version upgrade (i.e. no MIUI 10) and because of it running on Lollipop, it's stuck on the January 2017 security patches. Custom ROM development has largely stopped completely, save for the build bots that are still chugging away (see: LineageOS 14, AOKP and Mokee) and a stable version of LOS 15 that doesn't haemorrhage battery extremely quickly hasn't come despite the long wait. There's no reason to not stick with standard MIUI 9 now and to be honest, soon as I've saved up enough, I'm going to be jumping ship to a different phone.
In my case, best for R3 is MIUI 9.5 from MIUI.eu. Great, great battery life and all work like a charm. There is no any single lag/bug on my phone.
Tried many custom roms, but always back to MIUI.eu.
I got little worm in my ass and want to try RR 5.8.5 with chtholly kernel and AOKP with same kernel and GovTuner...but I know that will be back to MIUI.eu

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