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Looking for straight forward answer.can verizon htc 10 be debranded?

Since theres no straight forward answer and the guides seem to be all over the place i was looking for a straight forward answer.can this be unbranded to like the dev edition or something else?

gillim74 said:
Since theres no straight forward answer and the guides seem to be all over the place i was looking for a straight forward answer.can this be unbranded to like the dev edition or something else?
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Here is about all I can find from someone reliable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68150390&postcount=866
--To me this says - it should be fine to flash the full US Unlocked RUU/firmware, which is x.xx.617.x, I think the latest is 1.91.617.1
I personally have flashed the pmic-8996-1.img from multiple firmwares including, International, US Unlocked, and Tmobile testing out WiFi drain. So, some bits are ok, but the aboot.img (bootloader) contains the partition, so anything other than VZW or the US Unlocked could result in a brick.
Until someone takes the plunge and reports back, or unless their are people out there whom have done this but not seen the posts asking the question. So hopefully if they are out there they will see this thread and comment.

andybones said:
Here is about all I can find from someone reliable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68150390&postcount=866
--To me this says - it should be fine to flash the full US Unlocked RUU/firmware, which is x.xx.617.x, I think the latest is 1.91.617.1
I personally have flashed the pmic-8996-1.img from multiple firmwares including, International, US Unlocked, and Tmobile testing out WiFi drain. So, some bits are ok, but the aboot.img (bootloader) contains the partition, so anything other than VZW or the US Unlocked could result in a brick.
Until someone takes the plunge and reports back, or unless their are people out there whom have done this but not seen the posts asking the question. So hopefully if they are out there they will see this thread and comment.
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Ive read this but theres no straight answer in theory it seems possible http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593

gillim74 said:
Ive read this but theres no straight answer in theory it seems possible http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
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Yea. I guess just gotta wait to see if anyone has tried it, or pull the trigger yourself.

Mods can you please delete this thread as i got my answer and it wont help me in what i was trying to do please

andybones said:
Here is about all I can find from someone reliable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68150390&postcount=866
--To me this says - it should be fine to flash the full US Unlocked RUU/firmware, which is x.xx.617.x, I think the latest is 1.91.617.1
I personally have flashed the pmic-8996-1.img from multiple firmwares including, International, US Unlocked, and Tmobile testing out WiFi drain. So, some bits are ok, but the aboot.img (bootloader) contains the partition, so anything other than VZW or the US Unlocked could result in a brick.
Until someone takes the plunge and reports back, or unless their are people out there whom have done this but not seen the posts asking the question. So hopefully if they are out there they will see this thread and comment.
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I had asked you about this very same thing a couple days back in the Root thread. Glad you were able to find a reliable post, thanks.

Tarima said:
I had asked you about this very same thing a couple days back in the Root thread. Glad you were able to find a reliable post, thanks.
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Very welcome, my friend. :good:

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Very welcome, my friend. :good:
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Reviving this to ask a related question:
Can I safely flash the latest U.S Unlocked radio to my VZW 10 which has the latest VZW firmware?

If you flash the unlocked radio you will most likely lose all your verizon features such as volte and so on I would not if you use verizon services. For what purpose would you want to may I ask ? If you want to run your Verizon version on At&t or Tmobile there are threads on both I believe, but you should have support for other carriers already I believe as I think you will just get a non Verizon sim message is all but AndyBones can direct you on how to remove that nag.

M9guy said:
If you flash the unlocked radio you will most likely lose all your verizon features such as volte and so on I would not if you use verizon services. For what purpose would you want to may I ask ? If you want to run your Verizon version on At&t or Tmobile there are threads on both I believe, but you should have support for other carriers already I believe as I think you will just get a non Verizon sim message is all but AndyBones can direct you on how to remove that nag.
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I'm not actually using the phone on Verizon network, I bought it second hand and using it on Rogers network in Canada. Everything runs fine including LTE, but reception is weaker than on my M7 (purchased from Rogers) hence my wanting to try the U.S Unlocked radios to see if things improve. Similarly voice call quality is not that great though it has improved with the 1.82 firmware upgrade.
I don't mind testing out the radio myself, just need some assurance about being able to without bricking the device due to firmware mismatch or other incompatibilities. As pointed out in this thread very little information exists out there from people who have unbranded their VZW 10s or flashed non-VZW radios.

Have you tried running the latest RUU for the Verizon HTC 10 ? This may fix your issue if you have not already. Also I think on another thread Dottat posted a method to reset your bands of some some if you look on his thread for being able to use the unlocked 10 on Verizon he has it posted on there I believe. Resetting the bands or modem has worked for some people with issues with signal.

M9guy said:
Have you tried running the latest RUU for the Verizon HTC 10 ? This may fix your issue if you have not already. Also I think on another thread Dottat posted a method to reset your bands of some some if you look on his thread for being able to use the unlocked 10 on Verizon he has it posted on there I believe. Resetting the bands or modem has worked for some people with issues with signal.
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I'm not having an "issue" per se, I just want to see if I can get improved reception with a new radio, so I don't think an RUU flash would change much (I have already reset my modem for a separate issue).
Thanks for your help, I'm hoping that andybones or another dev can answer my question about being able to flash a non-vzw radio safely.

Tarima said:
I'm not having an "issue" per se, I just want to see if I can get improved reception with a new radio, so I don't think an RUU flash would change much (I have already reset my modem for a separate issue).
Thanks for your help, I'm hoping that andybones or another dev can answer my question about being able to flash a non-vzw radio safely.
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Is Rogers a CDMA based carrier (I legit don't know). You may need to do an entire us unlocked swap, not sure if anybody has tried that yet with a vzw phone.

No Rogers is a GSM network but my VZW 10 works fine on it.

If by debranding you mean to convert it to US Unlocked version, then Straightforward answer: Yes. You don't need to read further if all you needed was a yes or no, but I felt I should post what I did to convert it to US unlocked from Verizon for others who might need help.
Verizon 4G LTE devices are already unlocked. So, just to be sure, I S-OFFed my device first via sunshine. While S-OFFing, I chose the option of S-OFF with locked bootloader. Then I changed the CID to BS_US001. Didn't have to change the MID as it was the same as US unlocked version, i.e. 2PS650000. Flashed latest TWRP (for nand backup just in case). Flashed US unlocked RUU 1.8X.617.X. Successfully updated to 1.96.617.2 via OTA.
One thing that I immediately noted after converting to US Unlocked version was that the option of OEM Unlocking which was previously not present in the Verizon version became available in the Developer Options. Hope it helped.

GrimJoke said:
If by debranding you mean to convert it to US Unlocked version, then Straightforward answer: Yes. You don't need to read further if all you needed was a yes or no, but I felt I should post what I did to convert it to US unlocked from Verizon for others who might need help.
Verizon 4G LTE devices are already unlocked. So, just to be sure, I S-OFFed my device first via sunshine. While S-OFFing, I chose the option of S-OFF with locked bootloader. Then I changed the CID to BS_US001. Didn't have to change the MID as it was the same as US unlocked version, i.e. 2PS650000. Flashed latest TWRP (for nand backup just in case). Flashed US unlocked RUU 1.8X.617.X. Successfully updated to 1.96.617.2 via OTA.
One thing that I immediately noted after converting to US Unlocked version was that the option of OEM Unlocking which was previously not present in the Verizon version became available in the Developer Options. Hope it helped.
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Hi GrimJoke,
Thanks your post! Since I last posted here I've managed to do exactly as you described and ran the Unlocked RUU, updated to 1.96. Now running stock ROM and everything works great, and in fact the phone runs better than it did on vzw software.
I've noticed the same regarding OEM Unlocking. I read from Captain Throwback here that we should now be able to unlock the bootloader with htcdev and with superCID 22222222. I won't try since it's pointless for me.

Tarima said:
Hi GrimJoke,
Thanks your post! Since I last posted here I've managed to do exactly as you described and ran the Unlocked RUU, updated to 1.96. Now running stock ROM and everything works great, and in fact the phone runs better than it did on vzw software.
I've noticed the same regarding OEM Unlocking. I read from Captain Throwback here that we should now be able to unlock the bootloader with htcdev and with superCID 22222222. I won't try since it's pointless for me.
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Thanks a lot about the bootloader unlocking part. That was the only question I had. Now my life's complete.

GrimJoke said:
If by debranding you mean to convert it to US Unlocked version, then Straightforward answer: Yes. You don't need to read further if all you needed was a yes or no, but I felt I should post what I did to convert it to US unlocked from Verizon for others who might need help.
Verizon 4G LTE devices are already unlocked. So, just to be sure, I S-OFFed my device first via sunshine. While S-OFFing, I chose the option of S-OFF with locked bootloader. Then I changed the CID to BS_US001. Didn't have to change the MID as it was the same as US unlocked version, i.e. 2PS650000. Flashed latest TWRP (for nand backup just in case). Flashed US unlocked RUU 1.8X.617.X. Successfully updated to 1.96.617.2 via OTA.
One thing that I immediately noted after converting to US Unlocked version was that the option of OEM Unlocking which was previously not present in the Verizon version became available in the Developer Options. Hope it helped.
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how about from Verizon to complete wwe using wwe radios for international gsm network?

does volte work with tmo, att etc after gsm?

Which G930U firmware for Sprint phone on Verizon network?

Hi all.
I have a G930P just unlocked (USB/hardware method via GSMZambia). Currently has older OTA-restricted ROM to allow the unlock.
I'd like to update to the newest G930U firmware to get rid of all the Sprint stuff.
We are Verizon (USA) customers, and will uset he phone on the VZW network. I have already confirmed this works after the unlock (using the SIM from my own VZW S7).
Question is:
Which G930U firmware do I use? on the download pages they are specified for Sprint, Veriozn, AT&T etc.
Do I use the G930U for VZW because that will be the carrier? What is teh difference between these, I assume it is the splash screen and which radios are set as the default?
Thanks

Wanted to follow up on this.
After some careful comparison I realized that ALL the "u" firmware files listed - for each of the different carriers - are in fact all the same file. Which make sense b/c it's intended for a phone that starts off life w/ possibility to go to any network.
So after putting the "u" firmware on my formerly Sprint phone, it works flawlessly on Verizon. As far as I can tell all the relative radio bands are working equally well as my other G930V (native Verizon) phone.
Hopefully this will be helpful to somebody else in the future....

who did you get lte and voice to work. for some reason i can only get one or the other to work. not both

DHG4DRAGON8 said:
who did you get lte and voice to work. for some reason i can only get one or the other to work. not both
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I didn't do anything special at all.
I literally installed the reference ROM, and it worked. It has since auto-updated itself several times, and works flawlessly.
It's my wife's phone, I have a G930V w/ Verizon firmware etc (never done anything special w/ it) and the function the same. Just a few skin differences where Verizon has added extra stuff to mine AFAIK.

Installing AT&T firmware on unlocked Verizon S7 Edge SM-G935V

I've purchased an unlocked Verizon S7 Edge, model SM-G935V, but haven't received it yet. I'm an AT&T customer. The phone should work on AT&T's network since it's unlocked, but I just realized it'll probably still have Verizon-ified firmware, and might not work with certain AT&T-specific features like HD voice, video calling, or voicemail. How will the Verizon firmware behave when it's on the AT&T network? Can I install the latest AT&T firmware on this phone instead, using a similar method to what people are doing for the 935U firmware? I prefer a stock AT&T firmware rather than a beta or rooting. Thanks in advance!

There's another thread in this forum "Stock Firmware for SM-935A (AT&T)". Should I just flash that to my unlocked SM-935V, and essentially turn it into a 935A? I believe the hardware of all S7 Edge models is identical, so I'm hoping that will work.

I did this and applied the 7.0 update - and now I can't seem to revert to any other software. If I were you, I'd flash the U update and forget about carrier-specific garbage.

raduque said:
I did this and applied the 7.0 update - and now I can't seem to revert to any other software. If I were you, I'd flash the U update and forget about carrier-specific garbage.
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Thanks. Did you have any problems getting LTE data to work with your 935V once it was on the AT&T network? I saw a few mentions from people saying they could only get slower data connections, until they called AT&T to "provision LTE for their SIM" or something. I get the impression it's not enough just to have an AT&T SIM card - like the AT&T network has a registry of phone IDs, and non-AT&T branded phones won't be in it, and so won't get LTE data.
From browsing the 935U thread, it sounds like that firmware is receiving updates much more slowly than the carrier-specific firmwares. The U firmware also wouldn't provide the missing AT&T-specific features I was looking for, like HD voice or WiFi calling, so I'm not convinced it would really be an improvement over just keeping the Verizon fw. But maybe I'll feel differently once I actually get my hands on the phone and play with it - all I'm doing now is reading forum threads and checking my mailbox.

Honestly couldn't tell you. I'm on Verizon with my main device (S7e on U FW). I only flashed the AT&T FW (PK1) so I could flash the unreleased Nougat files.
Now, I can't seem to flash anything but an AT&T rom.
Also FWIW, the U firmware is getting updates slower than carrier roms, but it's still the better rom - untouched by the carrier's bumbling idiot of a dev team, no pre-loaded carrier junk you can't get rid of (only disable), better battery life and better performance.
More FWIW, I don't care about HD Voice or Wifi calling - both those are irrelevant to me.

At&t release today on 2/17/17 official update to Nougat 7.0 build BQA6 with February security.
Clicking from Edge of Galaxy.

I want to do the opposite - flash G935V onto G935A, with the intention of eventually being able to flash back G935A. Not sure if I could do this, though.
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I've got my phone working now. The short answer is yes, as far as I've found, you can flash any carrier's firmware to your S7 Edge. There may be some limitations if the bootloader version on your phone is different from the new firmware's bootloader version, but fortunately I didn't run into that. I went from the Verizon firmware to the AT&T firmware and then to the unbranded 935U firmware.
But for best results, a branded S7 Edge should be used with the same branded firmware, and on the same network. Otherwise you may run into some problems, or certain carrier-specific features won't work. In my case, my Verizon-branded S7 Edge is unable to get Wifi calling and HD Voice (aka VoLTE) on the AT&T network with an AT&T SIM card, no matter what firmware version I use.

s.chamberlin said:
I've got my phone working now. The short answer is yes, as far as I've found, you can flash any carrier's firmware to your S7 Edge. There may be some limitations if the bootloader version on your phone is different from the new firmware's bootloader version, but fortunately I didn't run into that. I went from the Verizon firmware to the AT&T firmware and then to the unbranded 935U firmware.
But for best results, a branded S7 Edge should be used with the same branded firmware, and on the same network. Otherwise you may run into some problems, or certain carrier-specific features won't work. In my case, my Verizon-branded S7 Edge is unable to get Wifi calling and HD Voice (aka VoLTE) on the AT&T network with an AT&T SIM card, no matter what firmware version I use.
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Really? That's strange. I successfully flashed V firmware on my A and HD voice & WiFi Capping are active
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So you did the opposite direction of what I did? I've read that AT&T is more restrictive about these features than some other carriers, which is maybe why it didn't work for me. I can't find it now, but there was an AT&T community forums thread in which a rep straight-out said that those features won't work on a non-AT&T-branded phone or other unlocked "bring your own device" phone.
To be fair, I'm not certain HD Voice isn't working, since there doesn't seem be a definitive way to test for it. With the AT&T firmware, attempting to turn on wifi calling would give me an error saying it couldn't be activated on my device. With the unbranded 935U firmware and an AT&T SIM card installed, I don't even see an option for turning on wifi calling.

Sprint HTC 10 on T-Mobile?

Does the Sprint variant work with Ting GSM (essentially T-Mobile towers) if you SIM unlock it following the SIM unlock tutorials? Or would it require more than that? I looked on HTC's site and its shows the phone has all the same bands for the Sprint version and T-Mobile version. Does anyone have a Sprint version working with Ting or T-Mobile?

yadnom said:
Does the Sprint variant work with Ting GSM (essentially T-Mobile towers) if you SIM unlock it following the SIM unlock tutorials? Or would it require more than that? I looked on HTC's site and its shows the phone has all the same bands for the Sprint version and T-Mobile version. Does anyone have a Sprint version working with Ting or T-Mobile?
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I believe it does if you change your cid and flash it to the unlocked firmware. There are threads everywhere on how to do this, make sure to check the un-carrier branded HTC 10 xda site.

yadnom said:
Does the Sprint variant work with Ting GSM (essentially T-Mobile towers) if you SIM unlock it following the SIM unlock tutorials? Or would it require more than that? I looked on HTC's site and its shows the phone has all the same bands for the Sprint version and T-Mobile version. Does anyone have a Sprint version working with Ting or T-Mobile?
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I run a Sprint device on T-Mobile. Works perfect with the exception of WiFI Calling which I am currently trying to get working.
Simple way is to unlock SIM NV method, load custom recovery, load latest Viper ROM, on AROMA pick the proper base install MM or N and Choose T-Mobile for carrier and that's really it man. the LTE bands are already all there, reason why I say Viper after the unlock is because other people including me had trouble getting data to work on stock Sprint MM. Flashing Viper solved that beautifully.

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I run a Sprint device on T-Mobile. Works perfect with the exception of WiFI Calling which I am currently trying to get working.
Simple way is to unlock SIM NV method, load custom recovery, load latest Viper ROM, on AROMA pick the proper base install MM or N and Choose T-Mobile for carrier and that's really it man. the LTE bands are already all there, reason why I say Viper after the unlock is because other people including me had trouble getting data to work on stock Sprint MM. Flashing Viper solved that beautifully.
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Thanks!

yadnom said:
Thanks!
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The only thing that sucks is you will be missing WiFi Calling which to me was a little annoying. I have tried everything, I went as far as S-OFF (kinda of a waste of $25) installed multiple firmwares (T-Mobile stock with Sprint radio, etc), different rom's, so far nothing, it seems tied to the actual us unlocked/t-mobile radio which as we know isn't compatible with the Sprint variant. On the plus everything else works including VoLTE.

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The only thing that sucks is you will be missing WiFi Calling which to me was a little annoying. I have tried everything, I went as far as S-OFF (kinda of a waste of $25) installed multiple firmwares (T-Mobile stock with Sprint radio, etc), different rom's, so far nothing, it seems tied to the actual us unlocked/t-mobile radio which as we know isn't compatible with the Sprint variant. On the plus everything else works including VoLTE.
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If you ever figured out Wi-Fi calling on the Sprint HTC 10 for T-Mobile, do you remember how and can you tell me?

Doubts before buying it on the Software and its unlocking

Hello, I want to buy this phone since I have seen it in amazon for 360 dollars, my question is that it is AT & T software but unlocked for any operator, is this really the case?
I am reading reviews in Amazon that say it is not really Unlocked and can not be used with other operators.
I want to use it in Argentina with the Personal operator.

If it's carrier unlocked, you can use with any operator.

xela19115 said:
If it's carrier unlocked, you can use with any operator.
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Thanks, for what I see I got confused with that of GSM or CDMA.
Check the only cheap and unlocked version that I see is the one with the AT & T software, is it easy to change the ROM to the Stock to receive updates?
Or is it better to leave it like this and update over time?

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If it's carrier unlocked, you can use with any operator.
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But you can't update firmware with any operator, even when carrier unlocked.

Think again... https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-lmv350ulm-firmwares/#tab=firmwares

MasterThiefGarrett said:
Think again... https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-lmv350ulm-firmwares/#tab=firmwares
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Think again what? You still can't update with AT&T firmware. You're talking about flashing to non-AT&T firmware. But that's a workaround.
Carrier unlocking and using on non-ATT network lets you use the phone, but you won't get updates.
UNLESS YOU FLASH TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FIRMWARE, which is another topic.

I'm using the att version of the LGv35 using straight talk on att towers and I receive updates periodically on time no issues. So I would think any US carrier that uses att towers should receive updates.

Optimusman said:
I'm using the att version of the LGv35 using straight talk on att towers and I receive updates periodically on time no issues. So I would think any US carrier that uses att towers should receive updates.
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But the op is asking about non-ATT. That's why he wants "carrier unlocked". Specifically he lives in Argentina, so he will NEVER use AT&T... But there's even people in U.S. who don't use AT&T nor AT&T MVNOs.
Carrier unlocked lets you use it in any carrier which has compatible bands, but you won't get updates. For that, you have to manually flash to other variant firmware KDZ

Just for the record, flashing to another firmware variant(at least on this phone) won't get you updates either. You'll need to manually download and flash each new update. I flashed my Amazon variant to the Google Fi kdz and never received another update, no matter how many came out. Had to start doing it manually, got annoyed, and flashed back to the Amazon kdz in anticipation of the Pie update coming out (eventually... Please LG, for the love of...)
As a side note, going from the Amazon software and using lgup to flash the gFi software as an upgrade worked fine, and I kept all of my data. Flashing back to the Amazon software as an upgrade soft-bricked my device and I had to do a full wipe and flash, and so lost all of my data. Reinstalling and reconfiguring all of your stuff is a pain in the ass when you don't have access to twrp for a proper backup.