how to root him the boot loader cannot be unlocked
badreddine noble said:
my phone is Droid Turbo 2 xt 1585 android 6.0.1
how to root him the boot loader cannot be unlocked
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You are out of luck. Bootloader has to be unlocked on this Motorola phone to get permanent root. You should have gotten a Moto X Force, the Kinzie with the free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Instead you bought the crappy Verizon version with the locked down bootloader.
I assume you are not a Verizon customer and therefore do not actually need a Verizon phone?
ChazzMatt said:
You are out of luck. Bootloader has to be unlocked on this Motorola phone to get permanent root. You should have gotten a Moto X Force, the Kinzie with the free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Instead you bought the crappy Verizon version with the locked down bootloader.
I assume you are not a Verizon customer and therefore do not actually need a Verizon phone?
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Ah, but what if it's a Verizon phone that has been subsequently carrier unlocked? (Allowed to work with other carriers) Will the bootloader be able to be unlocked then? I wonder if anyone has tried this.
wjphillips said:
Ah, but what if it's a[b[ Verizon phone that has been subsequently carrier unlocked?[/b] (Allowed to work with other carriers) Will the bootloader be able to be unlocked then? I wonder if anyone has tried this.
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You question has a false premise. That Verizon phones are carrier locked...
All Verizon postpaid phones since 2012 - especially the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 and the 2014 Droid Turbo -- are already carrier unlocked. By order of the FCC, for Verizon to acquire more LTE bandwidth they had to agree to that.
No, using a Verizon phone on another carrier doesn't let you unlock the bootloader.
This year Verizon said they were going to start temporarily carrier locking their phones for 90 days, to prevent theft. But that's being appealed since it violates the 2012 FCC agreement. I haven't kept up with the outcome of this 2018 development because I'll never buy a Verizon branded phone for myself. But the DROID TURBO 2 was carrier unlocked from day 1.
ChazzMatt said:
You question has a false premise. That Verizon phones are carrier locked...
All Verizon postpaid phones since 2012 - especially the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 and the 2014 Droid Turbo -- are already carrier unlocked. By order of the FCC, for Verizon to acquire more LTE bandwidth they had to agree to that.
No, using a Verizon phone on another carrier doesn't let you unlock the bootloader.
This year Verizon said they were going to start temporarily carrier locking their phones for 90 days, to prevent theft. But that's being appealed since it violates the 2012 FCC agreement. I haven't kept up with the outcome of this 2018 development because I'll never buy a Verizon branded phone for myself. But the DROID TURBO 2 was carrier unlocked from day 1.
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I was not asking about *ALL* Verizon phones just the Droid Turbo 2. So no false premise.
I'm not your typical XDA user. However, I was under the impression that if I could carrier unlock the phone that that could allow me to also unlock the bootloader (on some phones). You are saying this is not the case with the Droid Turbo 2?
wjphillips said:
I was not asking about *ALL* Verizon phones just the Droid Turbo 2. So no false premise.
I'm not your typical XDA user. However, I was under the impression that if I could carrier unlock the phone that that could allow me to also unlock the bootloader (on some phones). You are saying this is not the case with the Droid Turbo 2?
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That is not the case, ever, for Verizon Motorola phones.
The false premise was assuming Verizon postpaid phones are carrier locked. They are not, have not been for 6 years.
Verizon postpaid phones (since 2012) are already carrier unlocked.
Verizon demands the bootloader be locked down on all their phones, even Google Pixel phones. You can't unlock any Verizon bootloaders except through some exploit. For the 2014 Droid Turbo (Quark), Sunshine team found an exploit. For the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) no exploit was ever found.
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UPDATED: MODs could you please move this to the Q/A section if it is in the wrong section? Sorry for the confusion.
What are the major differences between the Razr M: Developer Edition vs Regular besides the bootloader being officially unlocked?
Is it possible to take the phone and activate it on a non-Verizon CDMA/LTE network? Anyone care to try and bring it to a non-Verizon network and see what the non-Verizon customer service reps do or say?
There are three ways to purchase the RAZR M (at least in the US) - Links will take you to the order pages:
1) Subsidized on contract for $99 from Verizon
2) Off contract from Verizon for $549
3) Developer edition from Motorola direct for $549
Options 1 and 2 are the RETAIL version of the RAZR M. This means that unless the dev community finds a way to "break" the boot loader and/or root the device, it will remain as-is and will only get updates from Motorola.
The Dev Edition's (option 3) boot loader can be unlocked.
The Moto page to unlock the boot loader is here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
There is no time limit as to when you can get the unlock code, but I would imagine Motorola reserves the right to change that policy at any time... meaning at some point it is possible they could shut down the site, but I do not see that happening any time soon.
You could generate the unlock code so you have it, but that does not mean you have to unlock your bootloader immediately. The unlock code is keyed to your device ID so it will not change even if Motorola upgrades the SW in the future. So, just to be safe you could generate the unlock code then use it in 6 months or 6 years from now.
That being said, as soon as you go through with the steps to obtain an unlock code, your device effectively goes on a "black list" with Motorola. You warranty is void EVEN IF YOU HAVE NOT APPLIED THE UNLOCK CODE. If you have issues with your device it would be Motorola's discretion whether to offer free service, fee-based service, or no service at all if you have a problem.
I have verified with Motorola that even if you have unlocked your boot loader, you will still get Motorola's OTA SW updates, but there is no guarantee they will work, especially if you have rooted and/or modified the core operating system in any way.
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I also verified with Verizon that all the RAZR M phones (regardless of retail, subsidized, or dev edition) are unlocked for all International GSM carriers out of the gate. While they will not work with US GSM carriers (AT&T and T-Mobile) anywhere else in the world should be ok. Please note though, LTE will not work outside of Verizon's reach.
I hope that helps.
What phone that is (unlocked) comes closest to the Droid turbo 2?
Moto X Force, it's the unlocked version of the Turbo 2, not sure if it works on Verizon though.
It does not, if it did id already have it i was under the impression at a verizon store that i would be able to bl unlock this phone. but that was clearly a "white lie" verizon stores.. they say anything.. now im stuck with this awesome yet annoying phone. I'm trying to find an android device comparable that is able to be bl unlocked and rooted.
I am going to have to try to sell this DT2
Moto X Force works on Verizon, just or "just" without CDMA and LTE band 13 support.
Zeljko1234 said:
Moto X Force works on Verizon, just or "just" without CDMA and LTE band 13 support.
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Im sorry but without CDMA the phone won't work on verizon on top of that without band 13 support we wouldnt get LTE on top of that
jayman94fly said:
Im sorry but without CDMA the phone won't work on verizon on top of that without band 13 support we wouldnt get LTE on top of that
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force doesnt work on verizon.
jayman94fly said:
It does not, if it did id already have it i was under the impression at a verizon store that i would be able to bl unlock this phone. but that was clearly a "white lie" verizon stores.. they say anything.. now im stuck with this awesome yet annoying phone. I'm trying to find an android device comparable that is able to be bl unlocked and rooted.
I am going to have to try to sell this DT2
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Our phones are carrier unlocked as required by law, that's the only detail I would expect a store to know. If I asked the guy who sold me mine if I could unlock the bootloader on it he probably would have looked at me like I had two heads. I wouldn't expect a sales person in a Verizon store to know that detail.
Well that's quite unfortunate dang
I'm currently on Verizon, with a grandfathered plan, and my Galaxy S4 has been...well...shall we say....a complete and total disaster, all due to the stupid locked bootloader. I was about to jump carriers, but from what I could find on the web, it appears that the Moto X's bootloader is unlockable, even on Verizon. The best I could come up with is a "maybe", and I"m looking for a bit more solid answer:
Can the bootloader the Moto X Pure be unlocked on Verizon?
This is an unbranded phone. It doesn't matter what network you use it on so long the network/phone both support each others bands. Verizon has no say in the matter or locked or unlock bootloaders or sim slot for phones they don't sell directly.
The phone will work just fine on verizon, tmobile, att, sprint, likely even uscc, even with the bootloader unlocked.
I read the post where someone asked about an unlocked Moto Z Force, and I met with the Moto rep at Verizon today who again said that it would be a Verizon exclusive, but I think we might have something with the thought that eventually, there will be a "Force Pure" (for lack of a real term of what it would be called) being sold directly through Moto, like the 2015 Pure was. I have AT&T and want to stay with them AND get a "Force Pure" model that will allow me to easily unlock the bootloader and use one of the many root options already available. I know the regular Z model will get an unlocked version for GSM carriers in September, but Verizon can't truly hold the Force model all to themselves forever..... right?
We also have people like this claiming to sell "unlocked GSM Moto Z Force" phones on eBay, when they probably just mean carrier unlocked, which isn't nearly as hard as bootloader unlocked.
And speaking of not knowing what we're talking about when we mean "unlocked," can we all learn the difference between the developer option to allow the bootloader to be unlocked and the NEXT step required to actually unlock it? With the Moto X Pure, you must start by selecting that option, go on Moto's website, give them your phone's info, and THEN the phone can be bootloader unlocked - the Verizon locked phones will never get that unless devs find the hack around it. If you are confused on any of what I said, then learn how it's done on the Moto X Pure here, which is a whole lot longer than just flipping the switch on the developer option.... Lots of people here seem to think that's how it works, so I'm addressing it here before someone incorrectly says that it is already available - which it isn't and won't be on Verizon....
Unlocked bootloader .....never gonna happen but sim unlocked for GSM? It already has
thyrellik said:
Unlocked bootloader .....never gonna happen but sim unlocked for GSM? It already has
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Please read my actual question again before even bringing up SIM unlocking.... what makes you so sure that the upcoming GSM-only model sold directly by Moto won't ever be able to be bootloader unlocked? Or are you just speculating based on the current Verizon offerings?
The Verizon moto z and z force is carrier unlock, free to use on any gsm. I'm using a z force on cricket. And there is no way to unlock bootloader for these phone.
Only the moto z gsm version coming in September can have bootloader unlock.
This update has been nagging me for a week now. Any experience after taking this update? My Verizon E4 is unlocked and using with non-Verizon GSM carrier.
nookin said:
This update has been nagging me for a week now. Any experience after taking this update? My Verizon E4 is unlocked and using with non-Verizon GSM carrier.
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Spouse took update on an unlocked XT1767 a few days back; no issues. But that pup is associated with Verizon post paid service via sim ported from another device on the same account. Can't speak to GSM implications but should continue to work unless VZW soft-disabled selected bands.
It is working good as same as before I took the OTA on T-Mobile.
nookin said:
This update has been nagging me for a week now. Any experience after taking this update? My Verizon E4 is unlocked and using with non-Verizon GSM carrier.
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Verizon phones are usually carrier unlocked. Although this is about to change due to fraudulent purchases.
https://arstechnica.com/information...s-for-60-days-to-prevent-black-market-resale/
madbat99 said:
Verizon phones are usually carrier unlocked. Although this is about to change due to fraudulent purchases.
https://arstechnica.com/information...s-for-60-days-to-prevent-black-market-resale/
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Well, my E4 was bought prepaid and it was locked to Verizon. I have to pay someone on eBay to have it unlocked. Newer Verizon E4 cannot even be unlocked that way. So I think is entirely to do with postpaid phones. Prepaid phones from Verizon are locked regardless.
nookin said:
Well, my E4 was bought prepaid and it was locked to Verizon. I have to pay someone on eBay to have it unlocked. Newer Verizon E4 cannot even be unlocked that way. So I think is entirely to do with postpaid phones. Prepaid phones from Verizon are locked regardless.
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Yeah prepaid is a different beast for sure.