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Has anyone else had an issue with having the phone drop out of 3G coverage, and not want to reconnect by itself?
It seems to me as if when there is no 3G coverage it falls back onto GPRS and doesnt check if 3G is available.
I've set it to WCDMA (3G) only mode just to get on 3G, but it sucks cause I have no fallback and am out out of coverage often enough to take some advantage of GPRS.
Also 3G signal seems pretty weak compared to my HTC Magic in same locations...
Any ideas?
Might be something about your area, I haven't lost 3G once since I got my phone.
Once I put it on 3G only mode it seems to be alright but the odd building I wont have anything cause I have no GPRS to go to unless I manually switch it back and forth.
Maybe I'll call up rogers tech support and see if theres any known issues, but usually Im more informed then they are. :S
I have had this problem, for the first week or so the 3G was rock solid and i was getting pretty good speeds. Then things started playing up and Orange in the UK told me to switch to GSM only, data speeds sucked big time, timescape would fail to update etc etc. So i called up and they are sending a replacement handset out.
The 3G coverage where i live and work is excellent according to the Orange website, so there shouldn't be any issues there.
I could not put up with the slower internet speeds, so i hope it was just a duff handset.
i drove across the US and i had 3g where there were 3g and it was on edge where there weren't any 3g. it went back to 3g once i reached 3g area.
my setting is on gsm/wcdma preferred.
i dunno why yours isn't going back up to 3g in a strong 3g area ??
which carrier are you with?
Rogers in Canada
i would check with your carrier and see a map of coverage. did you get the phone from them?
the only other way is to repair the phone. but losing 3G in a 3G covered area is the first i've heard from the X10. i've heard that the NEXUS ONE has somewhat of the same issue....
Well I know the coverage is there because when the phone is set to WCDMA (3G) only mode, I will have coverage. But when it is set to dual mode, as soon as it drops to GSM it seems like it doesn't even bother checking or reverting back to 3G, even though I am back in 3G coverage.
i'd probably talk to the carrier about it and troubleshoot it. maybe you can see if the phone is defective or not by doing that. and hopefully get a new device.
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i'd probably talk to the carrier about it and troubleshoot it. maybe you can see if the phone is defective or not by doing that. and hopefully get a new device.
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lol troubleshooting with rogers is like putting a sawed off 12 guage in your mouth and pulling the trigger...
wow rogers service is that bad?
yup sadly. I have dealt with all the majors in North america (even worked for att) and rogers is THE WORST.
"power concedes nothing without a demand. it never did. it never will."
They have been the premier carrier in canada for many years, only recently has telus been catching up. So now they're changing... but they still hire idiots for tech support.
Case in point, instead of giving me apn settings they said my x1 was defective. Found the apn settings and x1 worked perfectly.
Ive had pretty good luck with rogers so far, and I've worked for all the big carriers.
I think with tech support its really hit and miss but id have to say bell is probably the worst for issues, account and phone related...
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Funny you said that, I just was toying with my X10 (running on AT&T in Bay area, bought from Rogers Wireless) and its doing the same. Once it goes to Edge, doesnt bother to check for the 3G.. hmmmm.... let me play a bit more.. if i find something .. i will update !!
I lost 3G while in a tunnel today, lots my radio stream and it went Edge, once I was back in the clear it recovered properly.
The program Power Manager, has a 2G / 3G toggle on it, maybe you can use that to force switch it back if its not auto switching.
Ya that would probably work, I'll try it out. Thanks
I was just hoping for fix rather than a work around, lol :S
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Funny you said that, I just was toying with my X10 (running on AT&T in Bay area, bought from Rogers Wireless) and its doing the same. Once it goes to Edge, doesnt bother to check for the 3G.. hmmmm.... let me play a bit more.. if i find something .. i will update !!
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my rogers on us atnt switches back to 3g. is it because the 3g signal where you are is weak so it just stays on the stronger edge signal ?
cause i swear i drove from somewhere with 3g though many many parts without 3g and now i have 3g again. strange.....
I can go to a location where i know there is full 3G coverage (by switching to 3G only mode) but it wont switch back after being dropped (down to EDGE in low coverage) but it doesn't want go back to 3G by itself for whatever reason?
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I can go to a location where i know there is full 3G coverage (by switching to 3G only mode) but it wont switch back after being dropped (down to EDGE in low coverage) but it doesn't want go back to 3G by itself for whatever reason?
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HSPA+ Upgrades going on in Red Deer/Lacombe
I currently have the the G2 on the T-mobile network. I frequently switch back and forth between 3G and Edge which is driving me nuts. Is this a phone issue or a network issue? Do people with the Desire Z on the ATT network have the same issue?
Its a network issue with your location, It happens on any phone including the iPhone. Its if the carrier has that service available where you are.
I am located in Minneapolis which supposedly has very good T-mobile 3G coverage. A friend of mine who has a G1 on T-mobile here in Minneapolis always sees solid 3G. This makes me wonder whether this is a phone issue. Flashing the 17 radio did improve reception, but not satisfactorily. Could any ATT users share their experience?
I mean, the phone and radio and rom will play a factor somewhat in it but not that much. To be fair, edge and 3G dont have too much a difference in speed or at least not here in Florida, but i run 4G almost everywhere anyways.
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I currently have the the G2 on the T-mobile network. I frequently switch back and forth between 3G and Edge which is driving me nuts. Is this a phone issue or a network issue? Do people with the Desire Z on the ATT network have the same issue?
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For the MOST part, this is a network issue. The phone Radio will have an impact on the quality of cell signal you get but the network carries the most weight. Not all phones are created equal as far as reception goes. My DZ is average. Its not great like my previous BB Bold was but doesn't drop calls like my gf's phone.
I do on occasion drop from 3G to Edge but only when I'm in rural areas. I work in a jail on occasion and of course the concrete walls aren't great for cell signal. I usually switch from 3G to Edge when I'm there because Edge just holds the signal better rather than the phone killing itself trying to find a solid 3G signal.
Also, like the other user mentioned, 3G and Edge aren't night and day per-say. For example, sometimes Edge can be FASTER depending on how much traffic is on the network at that time. I experienced this on a day trip to San Francisco. With 3 gazillion Iphones in the city, I couldn't get my phone to connect to anything with 3G. When I switched to Edge, it was moving steady no problem...
Just my 2 cents.
Is Negri Electronics still the cheapest place to buy the Desire Z NAM or are there other sites with better offers? I checked ebay and all the phones there are more expensive when you calculate in shipping.
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Here is one thing that may fix the problem, as it has for me. Set your phone to WCDMA only by dialing *#*#4636#*#* . A menu will then appear. Select Phone Information. Change Set Preferred Network Type to WCDMA Only.
Hope this helps!
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Here is one thing that may fix the problem, as it has for me. Set your phone to WCDMA only by dialing *#*#4636#*#* . A menu will then appear. Select Phone Information. Change Set Preferred Network Type to WCDMA Only.
Hope this helps!
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Yes, already tried that as well, but then I lose connection completely intermittently instead of switching between edge and 3G.
Are u running a custom rom? Check ur apn
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m0bstar said:
To be fair, edge and 3G dont have too much a difference in speed or at least not here in Florida
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I feel very sorry for you then. EDGE makes me want to claw my eyes out versus 3G. Everywhere in New England on AT&T, the difference in speed between EDGE and 3G is like the difference between throwing a bullet and shooting it. Even more so with the "4G" HSPA+ backhaul recently done by AT&T in many areas. But even before that, it was a big difference.
My Desire Z very seldom switches from 3G to EDGE. When it does, its in areas of very weak 3G coverage. As others have mentioned, its likely a network issue. Flashing a new radio is pretty easy (and you can always flash back to stock), so it may be worth a try. But it may or may not have any significant impact.
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
Did you do factory restore settings.. or just factory reset the whole phone..ooh are you on Android 2.1 or 2.3. Also go to network mode and see if its not on GSM only.
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Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
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the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
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Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
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The reason it worked in the iPhone is that T-Mobile and att use different 3g bands and the hardware in those phones is only setup to work on those bands. Before you buy a phone, unlocked you should find out what bands your local networks use.
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the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
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Just some semantics: "most of the world" uses 2100 band, which makes MT4G compatible with most existing networks in Europe and around the world. Americas (both North and South), on the other hand, happen to use mostly 850 and 1900 bands, uncommon in the rest of the world, which are indeed incompatible with MT4G.
Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
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As long as you don't have a compatible-band cellular tower of your carrier in vicinity, you won't get 3G. Not all cellular towers support 3G.
And if your carrier's band(s) aren't compatible, then you never get 3G.
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Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
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That's because they can't get good signal where they live.
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saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
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thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
Nope. Some phones are restricted to certain bands by software (radio build), but unfortunately this restriction seems to be in HW.
jamgirl said:
thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
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With some God like skills you may be able to remove the HW antenna from a T-Mobile phone and replace the one in this phone. While I would not suggest it. I didn't want to tell you there was NO way to do it.
I hope someone in this thread can answer the same kinda question for me, but in a different way. Right now I'm in the United States on Simple Mobile's 40$ 3G Plan, but I noticed on my MyTouch 4G (Running the latest RoyalGinger) that I am connected at 4G speeds, however shouldn't my indicator for Data/internet connector on the phone read off as 3G instead of 4G? When i ran a bandwidth test on my phone from DSL Reports Mobile Speed Test, I got the following from a 100k file.
124 kbit/sec
0.287s latency
6.72s d/l time
Is that how fast 3G usually is? or should I be going faster? Thanks to anyone who can help.
"To help support the explosion of mobile Internet usage and give customers a great experience, AT&T plans to fully discontinue service on its 2G wireless networks by approximately January 1, 2017."
"AT&T expects to fully discontinue service on our 2G network by approximately January 1, 2017. As AT&T progressively frees up valuable spectrum for our mobile broadband network, we may conclude that some markets or territories need to turn down 2G service prior to the nationwide turndown."
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This is not an AT&T thing either. T-Mobile is also in the process of turning off 2G coverage and is expected to happen around the same time.
That sticks. Time to unload all these Chinese smartwatches. At least I can use the Pine, Truesmart and Gear S.
I'm currently in the market of getting a Smart Watch/Cell Replacement with WiFi Hotspot abilities in the USA. With these new changes to both AT&T and T-Mobile, are there any Smart Watch/Cell Replacements that work in the USA? And with what carrier?
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I'm currently in the market of getting a Smart Watch/Cell Replacement with WiFi Hotspot abilities in the USA. With these new changes to both AT&T and T-Mobile, are there any Smart Watch/Cell Replacements that work in the USA? And with what carrier?
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You want 850Mhz (limited coverage area) or 1900Mhz 3G capable smartwatches. Those will work with AT&T.
Only 1900MHz 3G will work on T-Mo and that's if you are in a 1900MHz coverage area.
I won't provide a list as that would take days of research to do, and it would have to be done on a continuous basis to keep the list up to date.
I have a T-Mobile 4G HotSpot Z64. In my town it only connects to 2G. But if I go to the next town over it's on 4G. Suburb of Buffalo, NY here. I have a ZGPAX S8 coming tomorrow and that says 3G only on WCDMA 2100MHz. Was this a wasted purchase in my area on T-Mobile?
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I have a T-Mobile 4G HotSpot Z64. In my town it only connects to 2G. But if I go to the next town over it's on 4G. Suburb of Buffalo, NY here. I have a ZGPAX S8 coming tomorrow and that says 3G only on WCDMA 2100MHz. Was this a wasted purchase in my area on T-Mobile?
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You will get 2G until they turn it off and that's it. T-Mo doesn't use 2100 but 1700+2100 or 1900.
The specs on the Hotspot say it's GSM/EDGE:850/1900MHz - UMTS/HSPA: 850/AWS/1900MHZ. If it's 2G at my home but 4G in a different town, then would it be my tower hasn't had 1900 upgraded? And if so, will a Android Smartwatch with 2G 1900 work still?
I got the ZGPAX S8 yesterday. I threw in my SIM from a T-Mobile Hotspot and the watch was up and running on what the watch is calling 3 E. Home and abroad. Download speed is crap but I can stream music and make texts and calls. Wonderful little device.
Again, a friendly reminder to those buying cellular capable Chinese smartwatches in the U.S
AT&T 2G GSM 850/1900MHz network shutdown
To help support increasing mobile Internet usage and continue to provide you with a great customer experience, we started to discontinue service on our 2G wireless network as of December 31, 2016.
AT&T wireless customers attempting to use 2G devices on this network after the shutdown will be unable to:
Make or receive calls, including emergency calls.
Send or receive text messages.
Use data services.
Device Requirements Post-2G Shutdown
After December 31, 2016, the minimum requirement needed to operate on AT&T’s network is 3G WCDMA (UMTS) HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band 2 and Band 5.
In short. If you don't have working 3G support now, your device is a paperweight after December 31st 2016.
T-Mobile still works in Toledo on an A1 from Agptek. Its a $20 smartwatch. Not good for much but the mp3 player and the ability to make calls. Bluetooth allows headphones to be used when making calls, and hooks up to the hands free in my Mazda.
I have a Lemfo Lem5 which has 3G 850/1900/2100. Works in Canada on Koodo, which is 3G only. AFAIK, it's the only one of these phones that has that combo. I hope that changes this year.
Rodimus80 said:
I got the ZGPAX S8 yesterday. I threw in my SIM from a T-Mobile Hotspot and the watch was up and running on what the watch is calling 3 E. Home and abroad. Download speed is crap but I can stream music and make texts and calls. Wonderful little device.
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How is it going with the ZGPAX S8 these days?
Greetings from Flensburg, Germany
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Not worth the hassle. Replacing SD card, putting everything back together, and then just using the damn thing always lead to me wanting my phone for control which defeated the purpose of the watch. I suggest trying a higher priced device. But I have no experience with those. I'll be jumping back into the watch game maybe in another year or two. Right now it's beta.
DZ09 smartwatch
Does the DZ09 smartwatch use only 2G network?
Microsoft Cortana
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Not worth the hassle.
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Tried to install various personal assistants without success, but then got Microsoft Cortana to work. I can just ask the watch pretty much anything, so long as I have Internet. Oh yeah, it has to be in English, too. Voice recognition works almost 100%, whereas answering by voice only works about 2/3 of the time. The other 1/3 I get a list of links. This is still pretty useful, as I simply have to touch to open them without the need to type anything on that tiny screen. I could well get used to this! In fact, I am convinced that this is the future and sooner or later many of us will go this way.
Oh, and BTW, I use watch as a standalone device, not connected to my phone.
Cheers!
KrautHolg
hi
Rodimus80 said:
I'm currently in the market of getting a Smart Watch/Cell Replacement with WiFi Hotspot abilities in the USA. With these new changes to both AT&T and T-Mobile, are there any Smart Watch/Cell Replacements that work in the USA? And with what carrier?
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hi
2G works in Toledo
2G from T-Mobile (and Mint, which uses T-Mobile) still works in Toledo Ohio as of today. I have an A1 smartwatch from AGPtek. It's a cheapo $20 watch, but it does make calls, send texts and the Bluetooth works with my wireless headset. Hands free works in my car. None of the Apps work but that will be no surprise to anyone here.
Lokifish Marz said:
"To help support the explosion of mobile Internet usage and give customers a great experience, AT&T plans to fully discontinue service on its 2G wireless networks by approximately January 1, 2017."
"AT&T expects to fully discontinue service on our 2G network by approximately January 1, 2017. As AT&T progressively frees up valuable spectrum for our mobile broadband network, we may conclude that some markets or territories need to turn down 2G service prior to the nationwide turndown."
Source -AT&T Corporate Website
This is not an AT&T thing either. T-Mobile is also in the process of turning off 2G coverage and is expected to happen around the same time.
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Go for a 4G WCDMA/LTE watch as I did with the DM2018.
Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
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Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
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I am using it in an area that was pretty weak, and it is working pretty good. It should get much better as the Sprint mid-range frequencies are turned on.
I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
last update added band n41, it's even listed on t-mobile site
I came to correct my post. I see that it can handle it just not mmwave or whatever they call it. Which I heard you can't get that through buildings. I only use my phone when I'm indoors
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I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
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It is, Sprint has the midband that will be used by Tmo for 5G.
Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
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Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
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T-Mobile's 5G implementation is still pretty new and I've noticed that 5 g can sometimes be slower than LTE. That being said, I suspect that T-Mobile will improve this with time. What is nice is that 5G networks are exclusive to 5G capable phones, meaning congestion can sometimes be better, at least from my understanding. I'm glad to see US carriers finally embracing 5G, despite the fact that it may not be as capable as international variants. Time will tell if we see any significant improvements with 5G coverage.
I have noticed significant improvements in coverage when traveling. My job requires I travel around a lot, since I do electrical work for cell phone towers. Historically,4G LTE coverage with T-Mobile has been spotty in certain parts of the country, but comparing my Pixel 3a XL with LTE coverage versus my McLaren 5G has shown a huge improvement and overall coverage and speed!there have been times where my pixel will get around 5 mbps vs my OP7T Pro McLaren 5G will be hitting well into 80+!
I have seen improvement also. I had to use a TMo booster in my house it was so bad. I have turned it off now.
I sometimes turn off 5G and get better speeds on LTE. But I checked a spectrum map, TMobile doesn't have enough low band spectrum in my specific geographic region. Completing the Sprint merger should help with that, and the 7t McLaren can support the Sprint frequencies with just a software update.
Fortunately I spend almost no time in cities where mmWave would matter, that's the only thing this phone can't do that other 5g phones can.
I have 5g in my rural town but the past two days the network has been acting up they might be working on the towers or something. Even my 4glte kicks of and on including my 5g.....
In my geography 5g is slower than 4g, but I checked a spectrum map and Tmo only has the minimum possible low band spectrum in my city and region. I've heard 5g works better if Tmo has 20mhz or more, and the addition of Dish licencing deals and Sprint spectrum is supposed to help later in 2020.
Anyway I'm usually just staying home using WiFi so it doesn't matter that much at the moment.
I get 110 mbs a second wear side of town and 30 mbs middle of town with 5g but I have a constant connection with 5g with 4g lte I sometimes have to reload pages cause of congestion