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Someone on the Amazon forums has reported getting a software update to 6.3.
I have droidwall blocking a lot of stuff in hopes of avoiding the automatic update. We shall see...
Someone reported it on The Verge too. Nothing on Amazon's site about the software update, though.
6.3 was pushed out to my Kindle today as well.
there's now a parental controls on/off toggle option in the 'more' menu, not sure what it might control yet (would be nice if it protects from purchasing apps w/o a password). *update*: parental control restricts wifi use (going online requires the parental control set 4+ character password). however, there's no options to lock the wifi immediately after screen lock, or a certain timeout, etc. appears you need to manually disable the wifi after you use it to re-enable parental control.. also doesn't require password for downloading/purchasing from amazon app store (would've be nice).
Also seeing that the screen can now be dimmed lower (i noticed that first, since i keep the brightness at lowest setting, after the update it stayed at lowest setting, but was noticably dimmer. I also compared it visually w/another kindle i have that's still at 6.2.2 while both are at their lowest brightness setting)
I'm noticing pulse reader has been updated as well (from 2.4.3 to 2.7.6).
6.3_user_4019920 got pushed to my device a short while ago and I lost access to root. There is a little information on the Kindle Fire site from Amazon that says 6.3 is coming and lists some of the new features. I was in the middle of something and all the sudden my fire restarted and I lost my root.
Direct link for anyone who's interested:
http://kindle-fire-updates.s3.amazonaws.com/update-kindle-6.3_D01E_4019920.bin
Still nothing on the Amazon site about it, though. I just figured out the link.
Amazon says that is is coming soon and lists some details on a update. It is on the fire update page under 6.2. Sorry I can not post a link to it.
Thanks for the link - each new version's download has been about a meg bigger than the last one, but this one is an 11 meg jump - wonder what's grown so much!
Please excuse my ignorance on the issue, I haven't used stock rom since I pulled my first Kindle Fire out of the box...But, is there a way to disable automatic updates? Isn't forcing updates on someone pushing the boundaries of what's actually legal?
Isn't that why Microsoft was having so many issues with forcing their "Legit Check" on people?
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It is my first update..hope it will not destroy my current settings.
I also got this update today. Now I lost root and Kindle Fire Utility 0.9.3 is not working anymore.
6.3 Update
No more root even here in the other side of atlantic.
Now the solution is wait for the wonderful people of XDA.
Got 6.3 update preloaded into my KF already when I got it. Anyway to download 6.2 on it without root? D;
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Someone on the Amazon forums has reported getting a software update to 6.3.
I have droidwall blocking a lot of stuff in hopes of avoiding the automatic update. We shall see...
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I just installed droidwall to avoid having my root removed. Thanks for the advise
Just a quick thought did any of you that lost your root capability install Voodoo OTA? Because this app supposedly allows you to keep root even after over the air updates. It's also the primary app I use for watch amazon prime. No 6.3 yet for me, but waiting to see what happens. Also does anyone have a link on how to disable the OTA updates in case future updates break recovery options?
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I just installed droidwall to avoid having my root removed. Thanks for the advise
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Thank you. What application do you black list to stop the OTA?
Here we have it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_k6land_software2?nodeId=200790620
It says coming soon, but the bomb has landed for some users. I still don't have it yet though.
Laquox said:
Just a quick thought did any of you that lost your root capability install Voodoo OTA? Because this app supposedly allows you to keep root even after over the air updates. It's also the primary app I use for watch amazon prime. No 6.3 yet for me, but waiting to see what happens. Also does anyone have a link on how to disable the OTA updates in case future updates break recovery options?
Thank you. What application do you black list to stop the OTA?
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Yes, I had Voodoo OTA installed. I still have access to google services (gmail, calendar, google play, and more) after the 6.3 update but if I go into a program like Titanium Backup it say there is no root to the system. I can click on restore root in voodoo and there is a pop up that "root su restored" but nothing happens. So there is no root access anymore.
pwissing said:
Yes, I had Voodoo OTA installed. I can click on restore root in voodoo and there is a pop up that "root su restored" but nothing happens. So there is no root access anymore.
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This displeases me. Well DroidWall it is then. Thanks for the update. I will let it come through once I know there is a custom recovery (root) solution. Until then I blocked most of Amazon's services.
I will be updating with a new exploit within the week. I have had a second one in the waiting for a while, I just need to package it properly.
jcase said:
I will be updating with a new exploit within the week. I have had a second one in the waiting for a while, I just need to package it properly.
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If I had the money right now I would be buying you a pint! Awesome news!
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I will be updating with a new exploit within the week. I have had a second one in the waiting for a while, I just need to package it properly.
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Just sent you a pm sir.
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This is a HUGE news in my opinion. Official support for Google Play/Google Apps coming to Nook HD and HD+ soon
Barnes & Noble's press release
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130502006907/en/Barnes-Noble-Announces-Google-Play™-NOOK®-HD
Engadget's Hands On video of the new support.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/03/...nd-nobles-nook-hd-and-hd-we-go-han/#continued
They say it will be rolling out Over-The-Air and provide access to other Google Apps such as GMail, Maps and Chrome (which is now apparently the new default browser)
I personally can't be more excited for this even though I've been running rooted OS and CM10 SD side by side ever since they became available.
Being able to access Google Play and having official support for many more apps will make HD/HD+ just that much more accessible and usable imo.
Now if only we could the the stock multitasking interface too....
UPDATE: New version number is Version 2.1.0, and you can manually download the update file from Barnes & Noble's website
Just select the Software Update link for the corresponding device and follow the instructions. (You just have to put the update file on the root of your Nook's directory)
I have no idea if it closes any of the rooting exploits, but my impression has been that since we got CWM working, we don't really have to worry about not being able to root now. Still please be cautious if you don't want to risk possibly losing the ability to root/downgrade/run custom ROMs. Just wait it out until the wise wizards of the forum figures out exactly what's going on.
That is fantastic news!! Will go and spread it now! Wow!! :good:
can't install downloaded apk apps...fail once again by B&N
I can confirm that keyboard and launchers downloaded from Play Store works as well as they did with previous "manual" installations.
There are still quite some apps that are just listed as "incompatible" from the Play Store, but having Maps and Chrome running without a fuss is great.
The paper-textured dock has been also been changed in favour of sleeker dark one, (with white icons in place of black ones now) and it seems like "white-on-white" problem is resolved too. (Might have to try out more apps though.)
I can confirm that Universal Root zip still works. Took me a while to straighten out the Play Store though. But it works too, even if you had flashed my gapps zip. May take me a while to test everything to be sure the zips still work.
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Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
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Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Not right away "out of the box" as it looks. I suspect rooting will be needed to "enable unknown sources", but I'd love to be wrong. Can't test right now though.
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
Tierneykev said:
Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
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okay so I guess this is a pointless update for me then
This is definitely an improvement: I ditched my other launcher now that I can put non-BN apps and widgets on the homescreen. But I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
That is very cool. I'm not near my Nook now but I hope with this new version it will now show apps loaded from play store in the app drawer as well as in the recent apps?
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jm9843 said:
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
kunchers said:
I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
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It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
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Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
So we have "Official" support for installing the kindle app on our nooks now.
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Might be worth checking out -- thanks!
fanoush said:
Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
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xdatoast said:
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't tried new stock yet, but the things that kept me going back to CM10 even after I had stock rooted and Play installed were the ICS/Jellybean recent apps display and the incompatibility of some apps. If they let launchers override the native notification bar, on-screen buttons and recent apps, I'd probably run straight stock.
Hi my first thread I was excited. I have been using aptoide for installing virtually anything without any difficulties and whilst browsing it informed me there was an upgrade for Amazon store, of course I clicked it, I have updates blocked in the router by the way.
Well I didn't expect much , Amazon store runs for about 20 seconds and closes so far, shame.
I opened my main menu, closing the fire menu Low and Behold all my apps now appear in the main app menu . I have powered off and on, they are still there. Here is the screen shots, excuse the text I'm on my phone . Enjoy
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Hi my first thread I was excited. I have been using aptoide for installing virtually anything without any difficulties and whilst browsing it informed me there was an upgrade for Amazon store, of course I clicked it, I have updates blocked in the router by the way.
Well I didn't expect much , Amazon store runs for about 20 seconds and closes so far, shame.
I opened my main menu, closing the fire menu Low and Behold all my apps now appear in the main app menu . I have powered off and on, they are still there. Here is the screen shots, excuse the text I'm on my phone . Enjoy
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This is a great post.
I really want this but do not want to loose my root access or want any funky issues. I think my questions will put a lot of user concerned to rest.
I hope someone brave enough who has rooted there AFTV would try your approach and see if it works. I would love it if that person can confirm the following
1) Was your AFTV rooted before you click on the AmazonApp and updated?
2) did you block OTP updates using adb or just thru router?
3) what firmware are you currently running? Is amazon stock firmware or pre-rooted firmrware?
4) Did you try the boot into CWM using Rbox boot menu and try to reboot system thru CWM for normal amazon boot?
Thank you
Doesn't this break the Amazon apps?
photize said:
Hi my first thread I was excited.
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Great first post. Thanks!
And welcome to the asylum.
jpeg42 said:
Doesn't this break the Amazon apps?
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I read in another thread that installing the Amazon Appstore breaks something.
Would be nice to have all appears appearing like this, but I'm waiting until I hear more.
hate to be that guy but this is old news. has been known for a long time
jpeg42 said:
Doesn't this break the Amazon apps?
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yes it wants u to log in with no way to. the reason i stopped using it.
pbanj said:
hate to be that guy but this is old news. has been known for a long time
yes it wants u to log in with no way to. the reason i stopped using it.
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Hi I did as stated have Amazon store open. With my details etc I clicked through to log-in all fine the store opened and can be opened but closes after a short period. I did not use the store before presuming it unavailable and just a service I don't have anything paid on the device and probably never will being an ex-pat. Just running xbmc with smart DNS all fine here Thx
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Hi I did as stated have Amazon store open. With my details etc I clicked through to log-in all fine the store opened and can be opened but closes after a short period. I did not use the store before presuming it unavailable and just a service I don't have anything paid on the device and probably never will being an ex-pat. Just running xbmc with smart DNS all fine here Thx
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it is fine if u dont use prime video or any of that but if u do it breaks things
It doesn't really break anything, and there's a simple solution to get things working as they should, simply uninstall and things are instantly back to working. What I have always done is keep the app store apk so that I can uninstall when I need to install amazon apps, then reinstall when I am done.
Reporting back
Seems as reported I jumped the gun, appstore does indeed get broken. As a helper you can use Es file manager, Go into Library and app. You will find the apk there , long hold to highlight then backup / uninstall it will ask you if you would like the factory default apk. All done and returned along with the backup for reinstallation . hope this helps
New AFTV owner
photize said:
Seems as reported I jumped the gun, appstore does indeed get broken. As a helper you can use Es file manager, Go into Library and app. You will find the apk there , long hold to highlight then backup / uninstall it will ask you if you would like the factory default apk. All done and returned along with the backup for reinstallation . hope this helps
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I have got my AFTV yesterday, I have blocked the amazon urls in my rooter and used opendns as well but still Firetv is updated to the latest version which is 51.1.4.2 I think which is unrootable. Any way I have tried OP's option of getting the aptoide and updating the amazon appstore, which broke the the appstore but all the apps appeared in the apps as OP showed in the image without doing any llama thing etc. but as in previous post I have repaired the amazon appstore and all the view is back to normal for the apps screen. So, I am thinking to update appstore again and restore my apps view which is better for me as a starter but I have to think of a way to get the appstore working for some apps. hope my exercise will someone and if anyone have solution for my problem, please reply. Thanks.
What is this? What does it do?
I've used my free time to create a noob friendly program to complete task. It can uninstall all Amazon Bloatware. It can also Install Google, Google Chrome, and Google photos. It can install Launcher hijack as well with Nova Launcher WITH widgets WORKING. This has been tested MANY times and confirmed to work on the Fire 7. This can also remove special offers
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WARNING
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE. A FACTORY RESET WILL UNDO ALL CHANGES MADE.
Please do not PM me. Post in the forum and quote me if you need help. This way, everybody will receive the information.
Compatibility
This is for Windows only. I have no interest whatsoever do code this for Linux. If you want to port it, go ahead!
Please use Root Junky's Super Tool to install Amazon Drivers on Windows if it isn't working for you. I didn't need to install but you may need to. Click here to download it.
Why Google Photos and Google App?
This tool will install Google Photos because the remove Amazon Bloatware option will uninstall Amazon Photos. You will be using Google Photos instead. In the Camera app, in the bottom right corner where there is a preview, if you press it, it will go right to the Google Photos app if you used the uninstall Amazon Bloat Option.
This also installs the Google App too. Why? In Nova Launcher when you press the Quick Search bar, It will go to the Google App. Only if you use the uninstall Amazon Bloat option. How? It will uninstall the Unified Search package, so it will go to the Google app.
This no longer works on Fire OS 5.4.0.1 unfortunately, the uninstall method has been patched
Click here for the download link
There has been an article featuring my tool. If you want to check it out - link is here.
https://liliputing.com/2017/07/fire-tablet-tool-makes-hacking-amazons-2017-tablets-easier.html
Also I want you to know, if you choose to remove bloat, it will remove every Amazon app exept for the Camera, meaning you will be left with Camera and Settings left on your home screen.
Works, thanks.
Few comments:
If Windows doesn't have the amazon drivers, it won't work.
Installing Google Play Services and Chrome was expected, but it also added Google Photos and Google App.
Either mention it or don't include the last two.
Also, why are you saying to re-install Google Play Services even if they've been installed before?
worked on 5.4.0.0
thanks!
Robius said:
Works, thanks.
Few comments:
If Windows doesn't have the amazon drivers, it won't work.
Installing Google Play Services and Chrome was expected, but it also added Google Photos and Google App.
Either mention it or don't include the last two.
Also, why are you saying to re-install Google Play Services even if they've been installed before?
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I am sorry. It installes Google Photos because the camera app is still there after uninstall. It uninstalls Amazon Photos and you need a photos app to veiw the pictures you took.
It won't reinstall the Google Play apps but it will install Google for you
It installs the Google App because it removes unified search which means on Nova Launcher the Google Search bar actually goes to Google Now instead of the Amazon Search. I am sorry for not mentioning it. I will edit the post.
Thanks!!! used to install google play apps, and installed nova launcher, but the home button is broken though. I wonder if there's any fix for that...
(Gen 5 amazon fire 7, running 5.4.0)
ravenchaser210 said:
Thanks!!! used to install google play apps, and installed nova launcher, but the home button is broken though. I wonder if there's any fix for that...
(Gen 5 amazon fire 7, running 5.4.0)
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Really? I tested this and my homebutton is fine, Are you sure you are on the Fire 5th Generation?
Check in settings > device options > and find where it says device model.
Does it say "Fire (5th Generation" without quotes? it yes, please factory reset and try again.
savvytechwinner said:
Really? I tested this and my homebutton is fine, Are you sure you are on the Fire 5th Generation?
Check in settings > device options > and find where it says device model.
Does it say "Fire (5th Generation" without quotes? it yes, please factory reset and try again.
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thanks, factory reset and it's working perfectly now, thanks!!
savvytechwinner said:
What is this? What does it do?
I've used my free time to create a noob friendly program to complete task. It can uninstall all Amazon Bloatware. It can also Install Google, Google Chrome, and Google photos. It can install Launcher hijack as well with Nova Launcher WITH widgets WORKING. This has been tested MANY times and confirmed to work on the Fire 7. This can also remove special offers
.
WARNING
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE. A FACTORY RESET WILL UNDO ALL CHANGES MADE.
Please do not PM me. Post in the forum and quote me if you need help. This way, everybody will receive the information.
Compatibility
This is for Windows only. I have no interest whatsoever do code this for Linux. If you want to port it, go ahead!
Please use Root Junky's Super Tool to install Amazon Drivers on Windows if it isn't working for you. I didn't need to install but you may need to. Click here to download it.
Why Google Photos and Google App?
This tool will install Google Photos because the remove Amazon Bloatware option will uninstall Amazon Photos. You will be using Google Photos instead. In the Camera app, in the bottom right corner where there is a preview, if you press it, it will go right to the Google Photos app if you used the uninstall Amazon Bloat Option.
This also installs the Google App too. Why? In Nova Launcher when you press the Quick Search bar, It will go to the Google App. Only if you use the uninstall Amazon Bloat option. How? It will uninstall the Unified Search package, so it will go to the Google app.
Download Link
Since the Files are 101 MB I am posting a Google Drive Link shared to the public. Here is the link.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4GUCBOVtmvPeGtwQ3kxWjdHSWs
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v5.3.2.1 tested. Work ok, but go back to original after factory reset.
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Keep in mind this tool doesn't actually remove system (most preinstalled) apps; it simply makes them unavailable and thus invisible to the current user. Akin to drawing the shades when you don't like the weather. The actions are reversible...albeit unlikely if OTA updates are blocked unless Amazon has another back-channel communication mechanism.
Davey126 said:
...albeit unlikely if OTA updates are blocked unless Amazon has another back-channel communication mechanism.
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Ahem...Guest account
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Ahem...Guest account
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Oh...
On the Fire 7 there is no guest account, it listed the accounts, no guest one for me
You are using the FIRE 8 HD which does have it I think
I agree, as I say in the tool, OTA REMOVAL is not confirmed.
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Boi...
On the Fire 7 there is no guest account, it listed the accounts, NO guest one.
YOU are using the FIRE 8 HD which does have it.
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That makes no sense to not have one then and have one now.
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That makes no sense to not have one then and have one now.
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On your Fire 8 HD there is a guess account
on the Fire 7 (5th Generation) there isn't a guest account
at least on my tablet, plus I don't even think the guest account is active. But it could be, no garentee
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On your Fire 8 HD there is a guess account
on the Fire 7 (5th Generation) there isn't a guest account
at least on my tablet, plus I don't even think the guest account is active. But it could be, no garentee
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It's under settings, users in activity launcher. Something activated it and I don't know what. Perhaps it's only available before everything is disabled. Either way, I see it in the user list, but I haven't been able to activate it again or for that matter disable it. Im likely to do another reset in the next day or so now that the kinks are being worked out. Hopefully the last one for a bit.
Back to wallpapers...the permission to run live wallpapers is already active in at least my tablet, of course in the damn system. I don't get Amazon. They don't want us to use them, but give the permission to, just not the APKs. They basically consider widgets a sin, but give you the activation script in front of your face. Makes me wonder if they really are sloppy, or there's a silent revolt going on internally. Either way those are pretty lame mistakes. I wonder how they're taking this being able to disable their apps.
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Back to wallpapers...the permission to run live wallpapers is already active in at least my tablet, of course in the damn system. I don't get Amazon. They don't want us to use them, but give the permission to, just not the APKs. They basically consider widgets a sin, but give you the activation script in front of your face. Makes me wonder if they really are sloppy, or there's a silent revolt going on internally. Either way those are pretty lame mistakes. I wonder how they're taking this being able to disable their apps.
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- this is an Amazon centric appliance - not a general purpose Android device
- 'good enough' probably comes into play (time/budget constraints)
- a minute sliver of Fire 7 owners will attempt to uninstall core Amazon apps unless it becomes bulletproof w/substantial advantages and no side effects
Love posts like this that pit a virtual army of heroic XDA script kiddies against evil Amazon engineers in an epic battle to control a dime store gizmo. Magnify the real business impact 1000X and you might score a footnote in some unread briefing.
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- this is an Amazon centric appliance - not a general purpose Android device
- 'good enough' probably comes into play (time/budget constraints)
- a minute sliver of Fire 7 owners will attempt to uninstall core Amazon apps unless it becomes bulletproof w/substantial advantages and no side effects
Love posts like this that pit a virtual army of heroic XDA script kiddies against evil Amazon engineers in an epic battle to control a dime store gizmo. Magnify the real business impact 1000X and you might score a footnote in some unread briefing.
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Who ever said anything about being a hero much less anything about Amazon being evil? Dime store or 5th Avenue...what difference does it make? I believe we should have the freedom to control what we rightfully own. Whatever comes of this, or that, or whatever we do, so be it. If it makes a dozen or so people a lot happier with a product they own, and that's considered 'heroic', then ok. Call it what you like. I can't count the times I've stated this is fun for me and a learning experience.
But hey, you have a good story line in a plot that goes beyond Amazon. Sounds like something I'd want to read about anyways. It's one of many battles. Small as it may be, a win is a win.
EDIT: Amazon just customized it. Within a matter of days, we've but thrown out much of that customization. When, or if we ever get root, I'd much like to spend time actually customizing it myself. Much of it can be undone by simple edits if you know where to make them. I've learned a lot in the past week, where many of those edits can be made.
theflathead, is your new Fire 8 the 7th Gen Fire HD 8?
theflathead said:
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Did you do this on a NEW FIRE HD 8, 7th Generation???
You said you just got it, and so did I, got the OS upgrade to 5.4.0, and hoping I can use this approach. Thanks in advance. . .
Paul
I just did it on my 7th Gen, blue 7" Amazon Kindle and everything worked. You have to read the directions and go to accessbility settings and enable detecting home button press, otherwise the home button won't work on the launcher.
I woke up today to find my tablet on the table with the screen on and a weird new lockscreen with some spam about hints on how to use Alexa. I guess my tablet had updated a few minutes before I got up and so the screen was on.
Because my tablet was previously rooted and I disabled the stock launcher and was using Nova, I was unable to get out of the lock screen. Pressing home did nothing nor did swiping from any direction. Funny enough too, the lockscreen was saying how to use Alexa but on my device purchased in Japan, Alexa i completely missing even from a stock install which is just insult to injury.
Anyway, I am looking for a way to remedy this hopefully without a reinstall. My initial thought was to re-root and re-disable the stock launcher giving Nova control again, if possible. However, I am unsure if the usual rooting method works on this version. I can't even re-enable the stock launcher without root (I think) so I guess if I lost root I will have to do a reinstall to get back to stock?
Does yours have your home buttons/top bar? Mine disappeared with the update and now the only way to get back to my home screen is to reboot my fire entirely!
taiyoko said:
Does yours have your home buttons/top bar?
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Yes. I was still able to use the device with those functions but it's incredibly inconvenient. Would a reboot help with anything?
I was looking at another thread in the help section, and apparently my nav/notification bars being missing is some sort of compatibility problem with 5.6.2.0 and Nova Launcher.
uninstall nova via adb
I think I figured it out but this won't work for everyone. After opening settings using the pull down notification menu, this reenabled the recent apps which allowed me to open Nova launcher. I rerooted using the offline method here https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860 which thankfully still works. After that I was able to use Titanium backup to freeze the new "Launcher 1.0........".
Everything is now running like before the update.
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I think I figured it out but this won't work for everyone. After opening settings using the pull down notification menu, this reenabled the recent apps which allowed me to open Nova launcher. I rerooted using the offline method here https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-offline-rooting-t3734860 which thankfully still works. After that I was able to use Titanium backup to freeze the new "Launcher 1.0........".
Everything is now running like before the update.
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Not able to disable the stock launcher with the old method, pm disable, once you have root?
EDIT: Was finally able to try some stuff on my tablet. I was able to get root due to your method you linked, which BIG thank you by the way as that method is way less fishy than Kingroot nonsense, and was able to disable the launcher with the "pm disable com.amazon.paladin" command. Seems like they gave their new launcher the name Paladin.
And I'm back to Nova launcher! Thanks so much.
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I'm just hoping the new version doesn't make it even harder to root the 8. It's already seeming hopeless. I had updates blocked at the router level. It updated at work.
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I'm just hoping the new version doesn't make it even harder to root the 8. It's already seeming hopeless. I had updates blocked at the router level. It updated at work.
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DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk will update the tablet even if blocked at that level. Amazon uses several IPs which change often. You have to disable that apk or completely removed it. You can try NetGuard firewall. You have to buy the features, but it allows you to block individual IPs. On my HD 8, before I posted a guide on how to disable system apps on 5.4.0.0, at one point I had a dozen or more IPs blocked through NetGuard. It will take time to tinker with all it's features, but I don't regret buying them.
Ugh, me too!
No notification bar.
I'm unclear as to what I can do to remedy this.
I have Nova Launcher running and I am a novice.
Can someone please tell me what to do?
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OK, update...
So, I restarted a couple of times, and like the third time I restarted, another update applied and a video about "Show Mode" displayed. I sped to the end of it.
I also (previously) turned off "Show Mode" on the lockscreen.
Then, I backed-up my Nova and shared it via Gmail.
Suddenly, the navigation buttons on the bottom appeared and the notification bar showed.
Does that mean it got fixed (somehow) with that orange-screened update that showed upon restarting?
Also, how can I halt any further updates?
When I received the 5.6.2.0 update, I had the same problem of no pull-down menu and no navigation buttons. I had previously installed Google Play, Nova and LauncherHijack. I did not have root. I called Amazon tech support and the guy connected with their MayDay remote assistance program, so I'm sure he could see I was running Google and Nova. We went thru several reboots and checked settings, but he was still stumped. Finally we did a factory reset and reapplied the 5.6.2.0. update and it started working. I have since reinstall Google Play, Nova and LauncherHijack and everything is running fine. My suspicion is that LauncherHijack is blocking the complete install. I read another post that exactly described this issue. In that case the user uninstalled Nova and LauncherHijack and powered off and back on. The installation then continued and when completed, the Show Mode video ran. I contacted the author of LauncherHijack and he said he would check it when he got the update.
Bottom line--if your tablet updates to 5.6.2.0 but the Show Mode video does not appear, the installation has failed/hung before it completed (even if it says the update completed). If you have LauncherHijack installed, try uninstalling it, cycle power and see if that fixes the problem.
I know this won't work for everyone but I was lucky enough to manage to access the Play Store when I noticed this happened on my HD10 and saw that the last app updated was amazon alexa under "Recently Updated" in the "My Apps and Games" section. I hit uninstall and rebooted. Show mode setup then came up normally after reboot and after the setup process for that everything worked normally again. Re-updated alexa and everything is working perfectly now. This worked for me so it's worth a shot but I might have just gotten lucky.
I got the orange screen, rebooted, still had it, tried several times locking and unlocking and kinda fiddling around, from the lock screen pulled the little "tag" icon (swipe for offers I think?)
At some point I was able to get into my email client (type mail) but only had a back button, no home or task buttons. Restarted again, same kind of fiddling around, and somehow it ended up playing the video. Skipped to the end, disabled Alexa when prompted and ended up on my normal home screen with all three nav buttons. Everything seems to be back to normal now. FYI, I'm running Nova, launcher hijack, all the standard Google apps including play store, and I didn't have to uninstall anything. I wish I knew the exact sequence that got it to work, but I'm really not sure... Maybe it wasn't even anything I did? Maybe it was just taking time downloading that obnoxious video?
It is nerve-wracking when something like this comes up knowing that they could push an update that messes everything up and there's basically nothing we can do about it.
I really really hope we can get root on this device
NFSP G35 said:
I really really hope we can get root on this device
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You can just re-root it.
autobulb said:
You can just re-root it.
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I thought there wasn't any root on the HD 8? Did I miss something???
NFSP G35 said:
I thought there wasn't any root on the HD 8? Did I miss something???
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Ah sorry, my device is the HD10. You're right, HD8 doesn't have root.
autobulb said:
Ah sorry, my device is the HD10. You're right, HD8 doesn't have root.
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Why are these devices lumped together when they are clearly very different?
n3wt said:
Why are these devices lumped together when they are clearly very different?
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That's just the way the XDA forum was set up unfortunately. Sometimes similar devices are put together in the same forum and the users are expected to be clear about which device they are talking about.
A Solution - At Least For Me!
autobulb said:
I woke up today to find my tablet on the table with the screen on and a weird new lockscreen with some spam about hints on how to use Alexa. I guess my tablet had updated a few minutes before I got up and so the screen was on.
Because my tablet was previously rooted and I disabled the stock launcher and was using Nova, I was unable to get out of the lock screen. Pressing home did nothing nor did swiping from any direction. Funny enough too, the lockscreen was saying how to use Alexa but on my device purchased in Japan, Alexa i completely missing even from a stock install which is just insult to injury.
Anyway, I am looking for a way to remedy this hopefully without a reinstall. My initial thought was to re-root and re-disable the stock launcher giving Nova control again, if possible. However, I am unsure if the usual rooting method works on this version. I can't even re-enable the stock launcher without root (I think) so I guess if I lost root I will have to do a reinstall to get back to stock?
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I found a simple way around it - if rooted.
I had to re-root, but that wasn't too difficult using existing resources.
Through some trial and error I figured out "com.amazon.paladin" is linked to the Alexa/Show Launcher (that's what I'm calling it at this point).
You can disable it with the following via ADB. It should revert back to your default launcher.
I also had Nova Launcher installed, so I disabled the stock launcher (the second pm line below).
Code:
adb shell
$ su
# pm disable com.amazon.paladin
# pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher