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Will Three UK sim card work on Touch HD?

I know the Three (3) sim card is a special U2 or U3 sim card and should only work on 3g phones. Does anyone think it will work on the HD? I don't want to buy the phone and then use it on the 3 network for the remainder of my contract only to discover it will not work on the 3 netork in the UK. Any opinions appreciated.
Thanks!
BTW I feel this is the best phone ever (well so far). I can't wait to get hold of it. Only thing it lacks which would make it perfect is a flash and internal storage. So excited for it to be released.

I'm in the same boat...
But as far as I'm aware, if your phone supports 3G, then you are ok with a 3 sim. I've tried my 3 sim in a couple of phones and so far that rule seams to have worked.
I can't see any manufacturer having made a special effort just to accommodate 3 and yet lots of phones do work with thier sims...
Still, further confirmation would be good.
My problem is that I used to use these dual sim things to switch between work and home sim on the same phone. they don't seam to work with 3 sims.
Zuber

tboy2000 said:
I know the Three (3) sim card is a special U2 or U3 sim card and should only work on 3g phones. Does anyone think it will work on the HD? I don't want to buy the phone and then use it on the 3 network for the remainder of my contract only to discover it will not work on the 3 netork in the UK. Any opinions appreciated.
Thanks!
BTW I feel this is the best phone ever (well so far). I can't wait to get hold of it. Only thing it lacks which would make it perfect is a flash and internal storage. So excited for it to be released.
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It works guys perfectly...!!!!!

vafanculo13 said:
It works guys perfectly...!!!!!
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To elaborate slightly
I currently have a 3 pay as you go SIM in the touch HD and it works fine. So far I have successfully used
3g/HSDPA - internet with my laptop
DATA - connectivity on the phone ie; mail, browser traffic, weather etc etc
VOICE - Works just fine as expected
Skype calling is also working allbeit the app is a little slow

I was on a contract with 3, bought an HD from Expansys UK with a T-mobile contract. When I got my phone, I put the 3 SIM in the HD and it worked perfectly for calls and data until I ported over my number to T-Mobile.

Does anyone here know the settings to access Planet3 on Opera so I can check my usage and balance? When I go to mobile.three.co.uk it takes me to the website version and not the mobile version. I heard you had to change the user agent in config. Any ideas???

Can anyone confirm if they are able to get a data connection on the 3 network when out of 3G signal? I understand that for 2G access the phone uses the Orange network. When it does this for me I cannot use my data connection. PIE and Opera Mini just hang. I can get on the Planet 3 site but that is the only site I can access. Do others get the same problem? Over on this site they say it works:
http://www.mobiholics.com/content/3/271031/3-fiver-a-month-payg-data-suddenly-working-in-2g-area
But it doesn't work for me!

DeanPall said:
Can anyone confirm if they are able to get a data connection on the 3 network when out of 3G signal? I understand that for 2G access the phone uses the Orange network. When it does this for me I cannot use my data connection. PIE and Opera Mini just hang. I can get on the Planet 3 site but that is the only site I can access. Do others get the same problem? Over on this site they say it works:
http://www.mobiholics.com/content/3/271031/3-fiver-a-month-payg-data-suddenly-working-in-2g-area
But it doesn't work for me!
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On GSM you can only access planet3 and some of it's sub-sites. You need 3G to be able to browse the Internet, but you can still use Skype, push email, and MSN(i think) on GSM. If anyone knows the full list of services you can use on three.co.uk over GSM, that would be handy.

TheNemonic said:
On GSM you can only access planet3 and some of it's sub-sites. You need 3G to be able to browse the Internet, but you can still use Skype, push email, and MSN(i think) on GSM. If anyone knows the full list of services you can use on three.co.uk over GSM, that would be handy.
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Many thanks TheNemonic, the 3 network would be perfect if you could also access the web on GMS when out of range of the 3G network! I wish there was a work around.

Do you use your Galaxy Tab with a SIM Card for Data information?

Guys,
I am seriously considering purchasing a Galaxy Tab to go with my Galaxy S.
My SGS already has a SIM card and as the Tab primarily won't be used outside of a Wifi area be that Home or Work and am unlikely to use the Tab as a Phone/SMS, I am wondering whether or not to bother purchasing a SIM Card to go with the Tab.
Percentage wise it should be something like 80% Wifi available.
Therefore, could you please let me know how you use your Tab and for those that don't use a SIM Card (be that for Data or Phone/SMS) do you find any restrictions?
Restrictions could be in the form of when the Tab is switched off (screen off only), as there is no SIM for any Data connection how do you find the Tab receives any internet updates.
When my SGS has it's screen switched off wifi is disabled and as such any data is sent through my SIM Card data plan. This keeps the phone updated be that email messages or App updates.
As such with no Data plan on the Tab how do you receive any email/App updates?

Beards said:
Guys,
I am seriously considering purchasing a Galaxy Tab to go with my Galaxy S.
My SGS already has a SIM card and as the Tab primarily won't be used outside of a Wifi area be that Home or Work and am unlikely to use the Tab as a Phone/SMS, I am wondering whether or not to bother purchasing a SIM Card to go with the Tab.
Percentage wise it should be something like 80% Wifi available.
Therefore, could you please let me know how you use your Tab and for those that don't use a SIM Card (be that for Data or Phone/SMS) do you find any restrictions?
Restrictions could be in the form of when the Tab is switched off (screen off only), as there is no SIM for any Data connection how do you find the Tab receives any internet updates.
When my SGS has it's screen switched off wifi is disabled and as such any data is sent through my SIM Card data plan. This keeps the phone updated be that email messages or App updates.
As such with no Data plan on the Tab how do you receive any email/App updates?
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Go into Wireless and Networks, WiFi Settings, hit the Menu button, Advanced, WiFi Sleep Policy, and choose Never. There ya go, WiFi stays on when the device is asleep. This should be the default on all Android devices, but it's not.
WiFi uses far less battery than 3G, even if left on while sleeping, and of course it doesn't burn your data plan.

Croak said:
Go into Wireless and Networks, WiFi Settings, hit the Menu button, Advanced, WiFi Sleep Policy, and choose Never. There ya go, WiFi stays on when the device is asleep. This should be the default on all Android devices, but it's not.
WiFi uses far less battery than 3G, even if left on while sleeping, and of course it doesn't burn your data plan.
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Thanks... Okay, that's got rid of that problem.
Anyone else have any opinions on whether or not to use the Tab with a SIM Card?
I can justify getting the Tab but I can't justify buying another SIM Card.... unless the advantages outweigh the costs.

Get a 10buck data only card and leave it plugged in. If you think you're going away for a bit, pay 10 bucks to re-enable it for that trip and be done!

Jyveafk said:
Get a 10buck data only card and leave it plugged in. If you think you're going away for a bit, pay 10 bucks to re-enable it for that trip and be done!
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Don't think they do a Data card for that price in the UK.
You can get a £10 SIM Card from the likes of T-Mobile but it's still £10 every month regardless of whether you use it or not.

Hey I don't have a galaxy tab used to have an alas before it bricked. Anyway there is no need to buy a simcard just Google advisable.apk. Its a mod that allows you to establish an ad-hoc connection to pull internet from a mobile or computers ad hoc connection
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george1983c said:
Hey I don't have a galaxy tab used to have an alas before it bricked. Anyway there is no need to buy a simcard just Google advisable.apk. Its a mod that allows you to establish an ad-hoc connection to pull internet from a mobile or computers ad hoc connection
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Intrigued, I did as you said Googled 'advisable.pk' and the results came back..... Nothing.
Are you sure you have the name correct?

Beards said:
Don't think they do a Data card for that price in the UK.
You can get a £10 SIM Card from the likes of T-Mobile but it's still £10 every month regardless of whether you use it or not.
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Not so.
There are plenty of PAYG deals doing around that allow you to do.
For example -
3.
T-Mobile do a £2 per day deal which is quite good.
My personal favourite would be GiffGaff if there was any kind of O2 signal where I live.
EDIT - actually, my new personal favourite would be TMo 6MONTHWEB for £20, which gives you 1GB a month for 6 months for only £20!
As far as I'm aware, all of these are effectively "pay as you play" options. If you don't need to use the internet from one month to the next, just don't use the SIM, and when you need to ensure you have enough credit to buy an add-on/goody bag whatever.
Regards,
Dave

Beards said:
Guys,
I am seriously considering purchasing a Galaxy Tab to go with my Galaxy S.
My SGS already has a SIM card and as the Tab primarily won't be used outside of a Wifi area be that Home or Work and am unlikely to use the Tab as a Phone/SMS, I am wondering whether or not to bother purchasing a SIM Card to go with the Tab.
Percentage wise it should be something like 80% Wifi available.
Therefore, could you please let me know how you use your Tab and for those that don't use a SIM Card (be that for Data or Phone/SMS) do you find any restrictions?
Restrictions could be in the form of when the Tab is switched off (screen off only), as there is no SIM for any Data connection how do you find the Tab receives any internet updates.
When my SGS has it's screen switched off wifi is disabled and as such any data is sent through my SIM Card data plan. This keeps the phone updated be that email messages or App updates.
As such with no Data plan on the Tab how do you receive any email/App updates?
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Hi Beards
FYI, T-mobile US no contract Tab comes with a SIM card unactivated.
Wifi works just fine in this configuration. It also works without SIM card however you get a message Emergency calls only.
Cheers

I have a sim for my tab. $20/month Bell Flex plan is cheap enoigh and I can cancel at any time and just tether with my desire. Wifi at home but HSPA everywhere else. Once the roms start coming out ill unlock amd just use my telus sim with a BT headset for calling. Using the bell sim allows me to text from my GT and I love that option.
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I didn't put sim in my Tab at first, but now I got one and a tiny dataplan to go with it, since I mostly use wi-fi and work and home.

Croak said:
Go into Wireless and Networks, WiFi Settings, hit the Menu button, Advanced, WiFi Sleep Policy, and choose Never. There ya go, WiFi stays on when the device is asleep. This should be the default on all Android devices, but it's not.
WiFi uses far less battery than 3G, even if left on while sleeping, and of course it doesn't burn your data plan.
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Really wifi uses less battery? So is there a way to fully disable 3g and use wifi only , thinking of just using a phone as a access point
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jay_jay_n said:
Really wifi uses less battery? So is there a way to fully disable 3g and use wifi only , thinking of just using a phone as a access point
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Airplane mode and then WiFi back on works.

I believe you can use the XDA Superpower app.
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jay_jay_n said:
Really wifi uses less battery? So is there a way to fully disable 3g and use wifi only , thinking of just using a phone as a access point
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Switch to GSM only which will leave the phone operational, or airplane mode with wifi on to completely switch off cellular radio.
Regards,
Dave

Interesting comments.
I was not aware you could obtain a SIM card with Data for such a cheap price.
However, it's nothing really to do with the money, I'm fortunate to be able to afford an additional card without even thinking of any financial consequences. I am though more interested in hearing how you use the Tab and how you get around the problems.
Having said that I know what will happen; I'll get the Tab and then end up purchasing another SIM Card with all the trimmings for something like £15 to £20 a month just for ease of use.

this is wierd i have it set to never sleep wifi but it seems like everytime the screen is off the wifi does sleep, i am using the modified wpa_supplicant to connect to my ad_hoc...

slimdizzy said:
I have a sim for my tab. $20/month Bell Flex plan is cheap enoigh and I can cancel at any time and just tether with my desire. Wifi at home but HSPA everywhere else. Once the roms start coming out ill unlock amd just use my telus sim with a BT headset for calling. Using the bell sim allows me to text from my GT and I love that option.
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how much did bell charge you.
i wanna get one without a data plan just out right.
what options do we have?

fnakfhe said:
how much did bell charge you.
i wanna get one without a data plan just out right.
what options do we have?
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Bell charges $649, but also requires you sign up for at least one months' service (minimum $20, but they bill for that), and there's the $35 service fee (which they may charge on the spot, or they may bill you for, or even waive).
Cancel the data plan as soon as you leave the store, you're still out $55+tax but have a month's service to show for it. Or keep it on for two months and get a $50 credit, which after taxes means you get those two months for free, and THEN cancel.
There are no other options, though you may be able to talk a Best Buy or Futureshop flunkie to sell you one outright with no activation, but that's very hit or miss.

Which version of the Galaxy Tab should I get?

There are so many version of Galaxy Tab. Currently I have T-mobile and I have the HD2 as my phone. Of course my HD2 is modded like crazy and it has gone through so many ROM's/NANDS with both Android and WP7.
I love to tinker with gadgets.
Anyway, can you please tell me which version of the Galaxy Tab should I get so that I can hack it and put in different ROMS on it to maximize its potential.
On a side note: I currently have the $15 250MB/month data from T-mobile.
What advice do you have in terms of getting data for the Galaxy Tab? Should I just replace my HD2 with the Galaxy Tab and use the bluetooth head set to make and receive calls?

I use the tab without a data plan and tether of my evo using wirless tether for root unlimited on sprint network.
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Is the T-mobile version is the easiest to hack?

Currently the TMO tab is seriously locked down in two areas:
1) TMO does not want you using a regular phone SIM in your Tab to get 3G data. They are filtering the Tabs by their IMEI number and will block all network access if you try to use a regular phone account - they want you to spend an additional $40 per month for a separate data plan.
2) The TMO tab has a crippled modem that will not allow voice through. If you flash a Euro ROM that has full phone capabilities, then the only modems that work for both voice and data are currently limited to EDGE speeds. (Rotohammer has created a partial solution that allows you to swap modems witout needing to connect to a PC, but you are still blocked by the IMEI filtering.)
Nobody has, as yet, found a clean complete solution to T-Mobile's restrictions - but the battle is not over yet!
Currently the best solution if you want to use the tab as a phone is to go 100% AT&T.
Alternatively, if all you want is data on your tab, each of the service providers has different levels of pricing and subsidies for their data plans - along with coverage and data speed.
The CDMA tabs come with 2GB internal memory, while the GSM tabs come with 16GB.
Other than that, you should look to balance total cost of ownership (data + device) against service quality. Each provider has a different emphasis.
Alternatively, you could wait for a WIFI Tab...
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woneill1701 said:
Currently the TMO tab is seriously locked down in two areas:
1) TMO does not want you using a regular phone SIM in your Tab to get 3G data. They are filtering the Tabs by their IMEI number and will block all network access if you try to use a regular phone account - they want you to spend an additional $40 per month for a separate data plan.
2) The TMO tab has a crippled modem that will not allow voice through. If you flash a Euro ROM that has full phone capabilities, then the only modems that work for both voice and data are currently limited to EDGE speeds. (Rotohammer has created a partial solution that allows you to swap modems witout needing to connect to a PC, but you are still blocked by the IMEI filtering.)
Nobody has, as yet, found a clean complete solution to T-Mobile's restrictions - but the battle is not over yet!
Currently the best solution if you want to use the tab as a phone is to go 100% AT&T.
Alternatively, if all you want is data on your tab, each of the service providers has different levels of pricing and subsidies for their data plans - along with coverage and data speed.
The CDMA tabs come with 2GB internal memory, while the GSM tabs come with 16GB.
Other than that, you should look to balance total cost of ownership (data + device) against service quality. Each provider has a different emphasis.
Alternatively, you could wait for a WIFI Tab...
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Thank you very much. That was really informative.
I was about to buy the T-mobile version from Craigslist becase it is selling a brand new one for $400. I was going to use it as a phone and using bluetooth earpiece for talking and calling.
However, having read your post, I think that I will not be able to buy it because I have T-mobile cell service.
That is so unfortunate.

Earthbrain said:
Is the T-mobile version is the easiest to hack?
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The hacks are identical for all gsm versions of the tab. The only difference is you have to select the modem that is appropriate for your carrier and region.

You mean to say you don't have WIFI on your Tab? Geez, and I thought us Aussies got it tough. Usually we get the **** deals but this time I'm smiling. Data and phone calls, 3G+and wifi. Now if we got a good data plan included by Telstra......

i was wondering if tango works on tmobile tab on wifi only with a bluetooth headset.

version
I've got a version question, What would I need to do to get an ATT sim working on a T Mobile Tab, also would I be able to get voice and data, and at what data speeds?
Thanks.

1) Unlock the SIM
2) Flash a Euro ROM
You would have voice and EDGE data speeds.
(There are already threads detailing both 1 and 2...)

woneill1701 said:
1) Unlock the SIM
2) Flash a Euro ROM
You would have voice and EDGE data speeds.
(There are already threads detailing both 1 and 2...)
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If I use it on wifi only, without a sim will it still allow for wifi calling (tango) and would it be through build in mic or headset?
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Cannot speak for Tango.
I use Skype on WiFi via a wired headset and/or speakerphone. Signal quality Skype-Skype and Skype-phone is generally very good. I have not tried a bluetooth headset. (Note: By default, some of the US tabs will not pair with bluetooth headset.)
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Thank you for your quick reply and thorough response.
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using smart watch as extra sim card via magicsim or simore app

I had been looking for an active dual sim solution and my curiosity was triggered with the Bluetooth devices like for instance this G2 BlueBox, if this would have been a mini waterproof dual sim phone that works on cdma i would have been sold.
Now in theory every android Bluetooth phone could be used as a g2 bluebox since the function is equal to your car phone or any other Bluetooth dialer.
This does not work in practice for the app needs to find a specific device.
My question is, is it possible to use the sim in a smartwatch by your phone so you effectively get a dual sim phone? either with the simore or another simular app.
If so that would really wonderful.
Now I don't really care about the data part(wifi tether or an other way) but that would be even better if that was possible as well.

I'm also keen on this option!! I'm using 2 mobile phone everyday and I have researched a lot for using a smart watch as a BlueBox or similar (SIMore, Piece...), yet I haven't find any correct answer...
I believe the key is on the software...

VoLTE & WiFi Calling doesn't work

Anyone experiencing the title issue? It works after reboot for a while and eventually stops. I'm on .417 firmware but the issue started with previous version itself.
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Interesting.. No one have this issue?
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Which app do you use?
I use CSIPsimple. Works fine depending on latency of the network. Throughput is low (<100kBit/s) for best quality codec.
It sometimes has issues with the network configuration (WLAN). Then I use a TCP-VPN to circumvent the restrictions.

DHGE said:
Which app do you use?
I use CSIPsimple. Works fine depending on latency of the network. Throughput is low (<100kBit/s) for best quality codec.
It sometimes has issues with the network configuration (WLAN). Then I use a TCP-VPN to circumvent the restrictions.
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Why do you talk about an app? VoLTE and WiFi calling are native features.
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LiveSquare said:
Why do you talk about an app? VoLTE and WiFi calling are native features.
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Why not? You asked if it works and I told you.
Besides: CSIPsimple
Calling via SIP saves me tons of money when traveling abroad and I am not depending on the mercy of my carrier LTE or Hotspot-wise.

DHGE said:
Why not? You asked if it works and I told you.
Besides: CSIPsimple
Calling via SIP saves me tons of money when traveling abroad and I am not depending on the mercy of my carrier LTE or Hotspot-wise.
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I didn't ask whether VoIP solution works or not. Please read my question again, if you are not sure what they are, it's fine not to answer.
But anyway thanks for your suggestion.
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LiveSquare said:
I didn't ask whether VoIP solution works or not. Please read my question again, if you are not sure what they are, it's fine not to answer.
But anyway thanks for your suggestion.
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You are welcome.
I know what I am talking about - maybe my answer suites you not.
What you want to hear about (I learned from your tone and replies) is another VOIP solution. Ingrained in the operating system and depending on your phone company.
I do not use this because it is a drain on battery (esp. on permanent reception) and I it does not work in many places with my operator.
We are splitting hairs here...

I don't have this issue. Are you using the phone purchased in your own country or an imported version?
They may have some carrier-specific tuning in the local version.

DHGE said:
Why not? You asked if it works and I told you.
Besides: CSIPsimple
Calling via SIP saves me tons of money when traveling abroad and I am not depending on the mercy of my carrier LTE or Hotspot-wise.
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I have imported version of xz dual, in my country its not offered by operator so i wont be able to flash rom with working wifi calling, can u pls give me more info how this SIP works. I will be very happy to get more details from you. Or is there other way to turn on wifi calling?

szuwx said:
can u pls give me more info how this SIP works
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP
and there: Protocols (SIP is only a minor aspect)
I use
https://www.sipgate.de/
There are other offers in Germany but they work very well and I use their service for over ten years now.
The best known VOIP service is Skype but I would not touch it (unless my customers demand it) because of privacy concerns.
Going with your chosen VOIP provider can give you great rates and with some or no effort works with every decent (low latency) IP-connection.
CSIPsimple has some operators preconfigured so you just have to type in your login credentials.

szuwx said:
I have imported version of xz dual, in my country its not offered by operator so i wont be able to flash rom with working wifi calling, can u pls give me more info how this SIP works. I will be very happy to get more details from you. Or is there other way to turn on wifi calling?
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Maybe you can try this? (backup first!)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/enabling-volte-xperia-z2-xperia-z3-t3438505

l3enjamin said:
Maybe you can try this? (backup first!)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/enabling-volte-xperia-z2-xperia-z3-t3438505
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I would not recommend this. You might end up with no calling at all or even a soft brick.
These phones are one generation behind and the software is for marshmallow.

DHGE said:
I would not recommend this. You might end up with no calling at all or even a soft brick.
These phones are one generation behind and the software is for marshmallow.
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1. Wi-Fi calling is the option in "Wireless & networks" in settings that when you enable it, you can make phone call with the stock phone app through wi-fi just as you are using the 4G/3G network as long as your network provider supported. It is not the same with SIP because wi-fi calling is still associated with your SIM card and you can still use your mobile number to receive calls.
2. I understand that I refrain to provide a risky way because not everyone knows how to restore their phone, but without change to the kernel, there is very little chance that the phone cannot boot back to recovery.

l3enjamin said:
I don't have this issue. Are you using the phone purchased in your own country or an imported version?
They may have some carrier-specific tuning in the local version.
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Bought in my own country and it was working fine until couple of updates ago. I'm in Singapore and using Singtel if it matters.
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