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I am a newbie, unlike many of you experts. I read all through out the forums and honestly 75% of this is foreign language. Please, for the people that are unfamiliar with the android system, fill us in.
most recent forum: 747598
***please note that it does not say whether EVO is supported or not.***
I bought my EVO early July and was anxiously awaiting the OTA update August 3rd. I downloaded it and now I am working with Froyo. I keep reading posts saying that it is both impossible and possible to root Froyo....but I have no idea how to even start. I searched the web and found some very easy YouTube videos on how to do this pre-Froyo.
I want to either start all over from complete scratch and format the EVO or would like to root this phone. It has been more than a week and I know a root exists for this, it is just a matter of where to look.
How do you know all the language with these phones and what it means....I want this phone to be the best it can be, but I am feeling like I am in the prehistoric age.
I am not 100% stupid, I do know to take apart my computer and format the entire hard drive. I do know how to change my fuel filter on my car. I do know how to cure a hangover.... Rooting my phone should not be this hard, especially since it is legal now.... Please help!
There is a way to root Froyo just no one has found the exploit yet or they haven't shared it with us
thank you. hopefully sooner than later....also, do you know how to get "verified" to put links in posts/forums? I keep getting " Hi Noonski....
How do I get my account verified so that I can put actual website links in my posts/forums? I keep getting this message.
1. To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
2. To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."
jetjock007 said:
thank you. hopefully sooner than later....also, do you know how to get "verified" to put links in posts/forums? I keep getting " Hi Noonski....
How do I get my account verified so that I can put actual website links in my posts/forums? I keep getting this message.
1. To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
2. To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."
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You will be able to post links and such after you get enough posts. I'm not sure of the exact number.
No way yet...
You might want to keep track of the sticky in the QA section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747495
jetjock007 said:
I am a newbie, unlike many of you experts. I read all through out the forums and honestly 75% of this is foreign language. Please, for the people that are unfamiliar with the android system, fill us in.
most recent forum: 747598
***please note that it does not say whether EVO is supported or not.***
I bought my EVO early July and was anxiously awaiting the OTA update August 3rd. I downloaded it and now I am working with Froyo. I keep reading posts saying that it is both impossible and possible to root Froyo....but I have no idea how to even start. I searched the web and found some very easy YouTube videos on how to do this pre-Froyo.
I want to either start all over from complete scratch and format the EVO or would like to root this phone. It has been more than a week and I know a root exists for this, it is just a matter of where to look.
How do you know all the language with these phones and what it means....I want this phone to be the best it can be, but I am feeling like I am in the prehistoric age.
I am not 100% stupid, I do know to take apart my computer and format the entire hard drive. I do know how to change my fuel filter on my car. I do know how to cure a hangover.... Rooting my phone should not be this hard, especially since it is legal now.... Please help!
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OK - Some basic tips;
First thing you should know is that all questions should be asked in the Q&A Section.
Second - read the stickies. The first sticky in the Q&A section is a thread with the title "There is NO KNOWN WAY to Root 2.2 Yet", so there you go.
Third - read the stickies. There's one for the EVO wiki, and another in the dev section for useful threads. Both of these should point a beginner in the right direction.
Fourth - read the stickies. There's one in this very section on "how to use these forums" which explains how to search.
Fifth - learn how to search, and use it often. Use it before asking a question.
I mean no disrespect with any of the above, but using the 5 tips I laid out above, anyone should be able to learn the language (so to speak) and be able to ask relevant and informed questions in the Q&A section, to the extent that they will understand the answers provided.
And I have no idea how to change the fuel filter in my car.
I have no idea where this should be posted, but since I have a Vibrant, and I know there is a lot of development going on with that platform, I figured I may as well post it here. I actually suggested this in the Bionix thread, but it got buried in all the other chatter pretty quickly. Hence, the reason for this post.
I think it would be great if the active devs here had read-only forums where they could post updates on their development efforts. That way people (non-devs mostly) could subscribe to those threads and get notifications whenever they post something. The ROM threads get so big so fast, it is hard to keep up without reading them several times a day (heck, several times an hour!).
This would require the admins here to set up the forum and grant editing rights to the active devs. Then a process would have to be developed to decide when new devs could be added to the list. In my mind, the way I envision this working is there would be one forum (call it "Developer's Corner" or something like that) and in it would be different threads for each development project. You subscribe to the threads that interest you and BAM, you are getting notifications from the forum when the devs post something there.
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Devs rely on users to post bugs so they can fix them. How would this be possible with such a system?
...by sending bugs via PM to the dev?
ronin4740 said:
...by sending bugs via PM to the dev?
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Why would you do that? Just use bug tracker on Google projects, it is far more organized e.g. http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
The idea of a read-only forum is just awful. If you want to follow the developer's progress then follow them on Twitter. You don't have to read every post, use the search functionality WITHIN that thread to search only in that thread to look for what you desire to find.
The real solution is to post a separate thread for each release. That way you know that everything in that thread is pertinent to that release and aren't looking through old replies that don't even matter anymore.
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richan90 said:
Devs rely on users to post bugs so they can fix them. How would this be possible with such a system?
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There would still be open forums (the ones that already exist) in which people will be able to post questions, bugs, etc.
zephiK said:
Why would you do that? Just use bug tracker on Google projects, it is far more organized e.g. http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
The idea of a read-only forum is just awful. If you want to follow the developer's progress then follow them on Twitter. You don't have to read every post, use the search functionality WITHIN that thread to search only in that thread to look for what you desire to find.
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I didn't know anyone here was using the G bug tracker. That is a good idea.
As for using twitter, I am sad to admit that while I use twitter, I hadn't thought of following the devs there. I will take care of that today.
kangxi said:
The real solution is to post a separate thread for each release. That way you know that everything in that thread is pertinent to that release and aren't looking through old replies that don't even matter anymore.
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This is also a very good point. The differences between some of the different revisions is quite drastic, and having all of the revisions in one thread is counter-productive.
The bottom line here is the current method creates one big mess and there is clearly room for improvement. I think if the devs had a way of posting announcements for which users can opt-in to receive notification when those announcements are posted, then that solves one small portion of the mess.
Would that be so bad?
You have just described Twitter.
I was under the impression that one dev didn't want to know about bugs in their roms inside of their threads.
heygrl said:
I was under the impression that one dev didn't want to know about bugs in their roms inside of their threads.
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Only if it's super buggy and they know it is buggy, no reason to post bugs then.
Back on topic: Your idea got buried because it sucked. People read through all that, not everyone, but some do.
heygrl said:
I was under the impression that one dev didn't want to know about bugs in their roms inside of their threads.
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Often when someone posts something that they already know is full of bugs they will ask people to not post about them, just because they are already known issues.
Al right. I guess it's just me then.
Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
can we please have separate threads for each build.
makes it much easier to navigate through them
and be sure that the questions are related to that specific build and not the previous or older version.
its annoying to browse through 300 pages of same questions asked over and over because they are lost in space.
makes the whole thread kinda useless, im sure many will agree that spent hours trying to go through and find information related to their build
Not gonna happen
You mean a new thread every time a update is released? Its not gonna happen.
Slowly, you have to read, its not that difficult. New thread for every update means the solutions and workaround will be scattered in multiple threads which is EVEN WORSE!!!! Usually chefs will post the post number where the discussion begins for the updated build. Else, just check the date of the posts and read from there.
Hopefully you dont get flamed for asking this
tidus18 said:
You mean a new thread every time a update is released? Its not gonna happen.
Slowly, you have to read, its not that difficult. New thread for every update means the solutions and workaround will be scattered in multiple threads which is EVEN WORSE!!!! Usually chefs will post the post number where the discussion begins for the updated build. Else, just check the date of the posts and read from there.
Hopefully you dont get flamed for asking this
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I'm 99.9% sure he means different threads for the AT&T variant t mobile Verizon international etc..
Many other phones have this option but not the 3 it needs to happen for easy navigation
Please start a new thread when you put out a new version of your rom.
By the time the second version comes out for the really good roms it's impossible to follow all the issues as there can be upwards of 1000 posts in the thread. Starting at the back doesn't help because of all the "how's your battery life?" posts. Then again, maybe that's the problem.
Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the work you guys do on these roms and kernels. I just wish it were easier to follow the flow of development.
Thanks for listening.
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+1 .... i am with you !!!
+1 . Yeah it so annoying to go through thousands of old threads...
Moved to general
Moved? Do the people I'm talking to ever look in "general?"
I support this all the way people always tell everyone to use search but you barely ever get what your looking for..
michaelh99 said:
Please start a new thread when you put out a new version of your rom.
By the time the second version comes out for the really good roms it's impossible to follow all the issues as there can be upwards of 1000 posts in the thread. Starting at the back doesn't help because of all the "how's your battery life?" posts. Then again, maybe that's the problem.
Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the work you guys do on these roms and kernels. I just wish it were easier to follow the flow of development.
Thanks for listening.
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+100000000
Great suggestion. totally agree.
michaelh99 said:
Moved? Do the people I'm talking to ever look in "general?"
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Well it doesn't have anything to do with developing..
Although you do make a pretty good point, it is a LOT easier just to update the thread with a new download link & change log.
It would also cut down on a lot of clutter in that section.
If you are running an older version of what that dev posted, you shouldn't post bugs unless it didn't say it was fixed in the newest version of what they posted.
Master™ said:
Well it doesn't have anything to do with developing..
Although you do make a pretty good point, it is a LOT easier just to update the thread with a new download link & change log.
It would also cut down on a lot of clutter in that section.
If you are running an older version of what that dev posted, you shouldn't post bugs unless it didn't say it was fixed in the newest version of what they posted.
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Master, your thread specifically is almost impossible to follow because of the almost 10,000 posts in it.
The easy fix to your update example above:
1) go to post for last release
2) hit edit
3) Ctrl-A to select all and Ctrl-C to copy
4) Hit Cancel
5) Open new thread and Ctrl-V to paste
6) edit pasted text and hit preview
7) review the post and make corrections as needed
8) hit submit and wait for the flood
T313C0mun1s7 said:
Master, your thread specifically is almost impossible to follow because of the almost 10,000 posts in it.
The easy fix to your update example above:
1) go to post for last release
2) hit edit
3) Ctrl-A to select all and Ctrl-C to copy
4) Hit Cancel
5) Open new thread and Ctrl-V to paste
6) edit pasted text and hit preview
7) review the post and make corrections as needed
8) hit submit and wait for the flood
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9. Delete the old thread.
I think it's more of a "Let's see whose thread can get the mot posts" type of thing. Because it actually makes little to no sense to update a thread from months ago that is full of non-existent issues and then ask people to search through that thread as if the answer is supposed to jump out at them. Luckily I have given up on trying to read threads.
kangxi said:
9. Delete the old thread.
I think it's more of a "Let's see whose thread can get the mot posts" type of thing. Because it actually makes little to no sense to update a thread from months ago that is full of non-existent issues and then ask people to search through that thread as if the answer is supposed to jump out at them. Luckily I have given up on trying to read threads.
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Well first, you cannot delete your own threads nor close them.
There is a search button in the threads for a reason also..
I guess it could be a thing to get people into saying what version they are on when they report a bug/ask a question..
Just a thought
I have to say I kinda agree with the OP, although obviously from your point of view its just making work.
I run your Axura 2.1 ROM Master, and was feeling a little lag from it here and there. I was looking for one piece of information... "can I use OCLF with this ROM"... had bad experiences with Voodoo in the past.
Man, it was no mean feat to find this out. Eventually, I put the new Voodoo kernel on my phone and its running flawlessly (utterly love this ROM by the way man. Seriously. Better than anything out there by a royal mile), but it was a hugely frustrating process to figure out whether I had any other options. To get a definitive answer. Just to find something simple.
I've often asked people direct questions in PM, and got no response, or at least an unhelpful one. As a technical guy, but not a developer, any questions I have are usually pretty specific, and not newbie in nature, and finding the answer is a massive problem. One of the biggest hurdles to this is 1000+ post threads.
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Master™ said:
Well first, you cannot delete your own threads nor close them.
There is a search button in the threads for a reason also..
I guess it could be a thing to get people into saying what version they are on when they report a bug/ask a question..
Just a thought
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Personally I think the old threads should remain anyhow. They help to keep the versions separate, not everyone upgrades right away. People should post in the correct thread for their version, but right not this is not possible.
Also, the old, dead thread clean up is not the responsibility of the OP, but of the forum admin. I have owned and run many forums. I have used ikonboard, vBulletin, Invision Power Board, MyBB, Phorum, phpBB, and my favorite Simple Machines Forum. All of them have in the administrative back end the option to cleanup old dead threads with no posts with a set time frame.
Problem is rom gets updated, 300 posts of "OMG Thank You, flashing soon!!!!"
They don't care.. The only thing they care about is getting donations. Higher post conts = more attention = more donations. In summary: they do not care
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grennis said:
They don't care.. The only thing they care about is getting donations. Higher post conts = more attention = more donations. In summary: they do not care
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Sorry, gotta call BS on this one. Based on recent events I can guess that you are speaking at least generally if not specifically to Master, and he already addressed (IN THIS VERY THREAD) his thoughts both for and against. In fact so far he has been the ONLY developer to come forward and state he would be willing to do this.
Your statement does not contribute in any way to the discussion at hand, and I personally to not appreciate anyone that posts in running threads just to flamebait and be defamatory. Please check yourself.
I think an easier and better solution exists.
The problem for us the users is that we cannot find which posts relate to which rom version, correct?
The problem for developers if we choose to open a new thread for every release is to follow all 20 threads.
An easy solution would be to have one thread for the rom as it is now, BUT with every update of the rom (and the first page) the developer can add another post with update details at the end of his thread (basically a simple post reply) and put a link to it on the first page in the change log.
This way people viewing the change log will have links to the parts of the thread that discuss that update, while developers won't have 20 threads to maintain.
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Whether you are following 20 threads or the same number of posts in 1 thread the work is the same because you have to reply either way. Also, all versions in 1 thread plus people still using old versions leads to confusion, and confusion equals having to clarify which ultimately means more posts. If you subscribe to the threads and use proper subjects for the thread you should get an e-mail that not only tells you there was a reply, but to which thread version and you can prioritize your replies, ie. Current version I will answer that now, 3 versions back and he can wait until I am done with what I am working on or else he can upgrade. Also since the older threads will get posted to less frequently the chance of multiple posts after the e-mail is less, so if the question is something that was fixed in a newer version you can decide it is not even worth your time to reply. As a developer you can not do that now because there may be many replies after the one that triggered your subscription e-mail that you will not see until you visit the forum.
Trust me, I have run a BUNCH of forums, and 1 thread per version is a better idea for many reasons you have not even thought of yet. If you fully think it out you will realize that it is actually easier to keep track of the 2 or 3 most resent threads people actually pay attention to then try to track the last 2 or 3 versions in 1 thread.
I've run a few big forums too so I do know what im talking about.
With 95% of users upgrade to a newer version of the rom there would be no need to keep the threads for the old roms because no one will write there. But you can't delete them. So instead of having 20 threads with 20 roms, we will have 400 threads for 20 versions of those 20 roms if we follow your idea
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It's been a long journey trying to find how to Root the Verizon S7 Edge, I'm seeing so many methods and so many problems. Can somebody please give me an updated and working Root?
search works wonders.
use it
kevp75 said:
search works wonders.
use it
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I'm new to the Verizon S7 Edge Stuff. I did search and yes, I saw threads about rooting but I'm asking which one is recommended and I should use. Most of the root threads are old threads with replies.
What... do you think anyone else here has hidden threads or methods they are using?
really?
if you searched... you would find what you are looking for.
OP, this is the method that most of us use for rooting this phone and it works fine:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-method-nougat-t3566978
All I can say is that I have software update (QK2) from Big Red (Verizon) and the root works fine for my needs. The phone will be sluggish at first but with some tweaks it should run fine. Keep in mind that each phone is different, each user has a different mentality and different equipment, and in the end what works for some or most just might not work with others or a few. It is a curse we bear with these phones.
While I agree that a "search" will yield tons of useful information, unfortunately, combing through tens and hundreds of pages of useless opinionated replies and hand holding posts can be quite tedious and often detracts from the useful information one seeks.
Hope some of this helps.
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Most of the op's inquiry is a simple request. Telling them to search is good, aiming them the right direction is better.
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