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http://epicmobiles.com/HTC_to_Launch_Pivotal_Windows_Mobile_7_HD3_Phone_09972831542.html
Sounds very cool, depending on what windows "mobile" 7 is gonna turn out like.
jazzcat55 said:
http://epicmobiles.com/HTC_to_Launch_Pivotal_Windows_Mobile_7_HD3_Phone_09972831542.html
Sounds very cool, depending on what windows 7 is gonna turn out like.
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Windows 7 is already out and looks very cool! It has been around for a year. I'm guessing you mean windows phone 7. It is important to get these things right
I just actually read the link and i have to say i need to change my shorts but i do have a question - how do they plan to cool a 1.5GHz dual core CPU? because - for the uneducated - that is 1.5GHz per core! effectively making it a 3GHz chip but if they can pull it off and some clever chef can put port WM 6.5 that device is going to rule the market for a very long time
yeh specs look very good but its still windows...it would be interesting to see what happens..... but i wont make the same mistake again
Quacomm delayed this processor to the end of 2011 so this is all fake
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I'm a bit annoyed that i signed up for a 24 month contract this year, not even anticipating the release of the HD7!
I'm a bit annoyed that i signed up for a 24 month contract this year, not even anticipating the release of the HD7
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Surely the "not even anticipating" part of your post negates the "I'm a bit annoyed" bit...
First of all 1.5ghz dual core does not mean its 3ghz. What it means is it can do tasks at the sometime clocked at 1500mhz each. As you say its very important to vet this things right
Now I am little ticked of that it won't be out in USA. My guess was dual core 1.3ghz with 1gb ram and HD recording which is standard with 8mp cam. Also not a big fan of WM7 as it seems some what childish. I mean WTF was M$ thinking? I really hope HTC Sense hide that ugly 4 square sector that alone scares me.
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First of all 1.5ghz dual core does not mean its 3ghz. What it means is it can do tasks at the sometime clocked at 1500mhz each. As you say its very important to vet this things right
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Sorry that was my mistake i meant to say it was effectively 1.5ghz a core meaning it has an effective total clock speed of 3GHz.
It's amazing what dumb things i can say after a few beers
I didnt realize how much the note 3 totally blows the doors off the graphics of the 5s. Look at the 3dmark ice storm benchmarks. Is the 5s really that bad compared to the Note 3 snapdragon or am I missing something?
Note 3 vs. 5s
19,661 vs 13,858
1 . Yea the note 3 is a better phone
2. Benchmarks are meaningless as they don't relate to real world use at all.
3. That benchmark test is most likely not optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit processor in the 5s
clninja said:
1 . Yea the note 3 is a better phone
2. Benchmarks are meaningless as they don't relate to real world use at all.
3. That benchmark test is most likely not optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit processor in the 5s
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4. Along with most apps are not optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit processor in the 5s....
And 64bit would have very little relevance in those tests anyways. Main advantage of 64bit is basically allowing more RAM....
Ya, I've heard the real world argument a lot. Optimization can only make up for so much though and it's helpful to at least get an idea of performance with a benchmark test. I remember when the 4s was out the gpu was much faster than what was available to us at the time. Nice to see it reversed now.
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And 64bit would have very little relevance in those tests anyways. Main advantage of 64bit is basically allowing more RAM....
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Just as important, twice as many bits per clock cycle... probably more important...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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And 64bit would have very little relevance in those tests anyways. Main advantage of 64bit is basically allowing more RAM....
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and Apple choose to give the 5s 1GB RAM :laugh:
I laughed so hard at the Note 3/iPhone 5s in this video:
http://youtu.be/S1aLqMJPQC4
It truly helped me realize the silliness of doubting choosing the Note 3 over getting the 5s
I'm just hoping that today's Android will treat me better the olden days of Gingerbread on my HTC Evo.
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I laughed so hard at the Note 3/iPhone 5s in this video:
http://youtu.be/S1aLqMJPQC4
It truly helped me realize the silliness of doubting choosing the Note 3 over getting the 5s
I'm just hoping that today's Android will treat me better the olden days of Gingerbread on my HTC Evo.
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That was painful yet enjoyable to watch.
http://tabtec.com/android/snapdragon-805-vs-snapdragon-801-new-results-surface/
Your phone is not outdated with the cat 6 check it out.
android_4life said:
http://tabtec.com/android/snapdragon-805-vs-snapdragon-801-new-results-surface/
Your phone is not outdated with the cat 6 check it out.
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Interesting
Yes but when more quad he content like games starts becoming available the adreno 420 will show much improvement.
Yes but the only thing I care about is battery life. I think it will be better on the 805.
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The cat 6 has one thing the original doesn't which is better future prove thanks to it being able to run 64 apps.
Wow! Did I drink too much tonight, because I am having a hard time reading and understanding some of these posts?
It's not only 801 vs 805, you have to include the GPU as well to see the difference regarding a smartphone.
And the Adreno 420 is a whole other story than the 330...
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It's not only 801 vs 805, you have to include the GPU as well to see the difference regarding a smartphone.
And the Adreno 420 is a whole other story than the 330...
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The GPU is built in. It's not like a 801 can come paired with the adreno 420.
One thing not factored in though is thermal throttling with our phones. The 805 may have more problems with that in the G3 but not in non LG phones so the difference could be a lot larger in whatever phones that may have it.
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The GPU is built in. It's not like a 801 can come paired with the adreno 420.
One thing not factored in though is thermal throttling with our phones. The 805 may have more problems with that in the G3 but not in non LG phones so the difference could be a lot larger in whatever phones that may have it.
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Dude I am aware of this.... ?
frankgreimes said:
The cat 6 has one thing the original doesn't which is better future prove thanks to it being able to run 64 apps.
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Well...lucky for us there will be millions of smartphones unable to run 64 apps
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Dude I am aware of this.... ?
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Which is why it IS just a 801 vs 805 thing and your first statement doesn't make sense...
anyone here have the f460 rooted?
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Which is why it IS just a 801 vs 805 thing and your first statement doesn't make sense...
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Have a nice day...
Only other difference seems to be a slight bump in clockspeed from 2.3GHz to 2.5GHz. I wonder what pricing will look like on these models?
Sure wish ASUS would just release 5.1.1 already but perhaps they're busy releasing all these Zenfone 2 models...
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Only other difference seems to be a slight bump in clockspeed from 2.3GHz to 2.5GHz. I wonder what pricing will look like on these models?
Sure wish ASUS would just release 5.1.1 already but perhaps they're busy releasing all these Zenfone 2 models...
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I can't wait to feel how hot that CPU is going to get . Probably 50 USD more or 100 USD more it is has other new stuff too.
ASUS Zenfone 2 Deluxe and ASUS Zenfone 2 are same.
No changes.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_deluxe_ze551ml-7475.php
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ASUS Zenfone 2 Deluxe and ASUS Zenfone 2 are same.
No changes.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_deluxe_ze551ml-7475.php
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Here's the link to the announcement this morning:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...n-with-256gb-internal-storage-unveiled-730942
Not sure if 2.5Mhz is real. According to Intel's website, Z3580 have max frequency of 2.33Ghz only
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Honestly, I don't care about anything other than the quarter of a TB storage *droool*
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Here's the link to the announcement this morning:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...n-with-256gb-internal-storage-unveiled-730942
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Its also 2.3 ghz
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Its also 2.3 ghz
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Yes.. the Deluxe is 2.3 ghz. You've pointed that out already.
The Deluxe Special Edition... that's what was announced this morning. & if it IS a misprint @ 2.3 ghz? who cares? It's not like we're going to notice an extra 200mhz.
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Yes.. the Deluxe is 2.3 ghz. You've pointed that out already.
The Deluxe Special Edition... that's what was announced this morning. & if it IS a misprint @ 2.3 ghz? who cares? It's not like we're going to notice an extra 200mhz.
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Btw 2.5 ghz is really noticeable.
Umm really Asus lol. 5.1.1 would be great instead of making 30 version of the same phone.....
Guess that what cm12 is for right
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Btw 2.5 ghz is really noticeable.
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sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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Oh really? I don't think so.
It's exactly the same except for storage. While it would be amazing to have 256gb of internal storage, I don't think the premium would be worth it. 64 is enough for me(for apps) with media on my external card
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Oh really? I don't think so.
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Clock speeds don't mean a whole lot in modern processors.
In all reality if you have the 2.3ghz model then this is NOT worth it period IMHO. 2.3ghz to 2.5ghz you will not be able to tell a difference in real world use. The 256 internal storage is amazing just to have. But 64gb is way more than enough for me and majority of users.
goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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Lol you can't be serious........
ycavan said:
sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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so.... 8.7% more faster battery drain?
ASUS pls, fix your os problem first :crying:
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goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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according to spec, it will be the same Z00A. So, it should share the same ROM with existing ZE551ML.
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Clock speeds don't mean a whole lot in modern processors.
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that is utterly wrong, over the years all the performance gains you get from intel are from stock clock speed bumps rather than IPC increase. a 200mhz increase in turbo clocks on all four cores can make a noticeable difference, that is if they can be maintained long enough, otherwise in most short time race to sleep scenarios the difference is hard to see. in fact the only changes you see from SD800 to SD805 in cpu are that qualcomm keeps overclocking their CPUs, but the problem is that qualcomm has more conservative throttling mechanisms whereas intel handles it more leniently. the point is if they kept the same TDP as 2.3ghz one with the new one then it won't make any significant change, if they raise the TDP or allow for longer turbo time then that 2.5ghz will make a noticeable change in many daily usage cases such as gaming and HEVC decoding.
in terms of app opening speed and booting time though, that depends on what kind of NAND asus uses. the nand they use so far in our ZE551ML are pretty crappy and around average at best, if they kept using those lower grade NAND then I see no point in this new variant at all
Any one give me screenshot of soc tab on cpu z
Here ya go.
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Any one give me screenshot of soc tab on cpu z
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shark1987 said:
Here ya go.
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Why it show "Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 1.96GHz" but on nexus 6p we have v2.1 right?
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Why it show "Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 1.96GHz" but on nexus 6p we have v2.1 right?
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The 810 v1 is revision r0pX where X, I believe, is the model of the first revision. Each model can have some slight variation in a component used, the location its made, etc. The first version has no revisions.
The 810 v2.1 is revision r1p1 since the second version is the first revision.
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The 810 v1 is revision r0pX where X, I believe, is the model of the first revision. Each model can have some slight variation in a component used, the location its made, etc. The first version has no revisions.
The 810 v2.1 is revision r1p1 since the second version is the first revision.
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How do i check the version?
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How do i check the version?
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All of the SD 810's since the LG G Flex 2 are the v2.1 chip from accounts I've seen. I don't even know why you're concerned
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All of the SD 810's since the LG G Flex 2 are the v2.1 chip from accounts I've seen. I don't even know why you're concerned
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My only concerned is if it has SD 810 v2.1 then why v2.1 is not showing on SOC tab.
On my previous nexus 6p some where it show SD 810 v2.1 my on soc tab or some other app i don't remember.
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My only concerned is if it has SD 810 v2.1 then why v2.1 is not showing on SOC tab.
On my previous nexus 6p some where it show SD 810 v2.1 my on soc tab or some other app i don't remember.
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It is v2.1, the 6P never has nor ever will use the original SD810. The fact that you're so paranoid about the version shows you didn't do any research on the 6P or any SD810 phone other than reading over heating articles. The only 2 phones that ever used the SD810 v2 were the LG G Flex 2, and the HTC One M9. You can read more about it here
2 minute on Google and you could have easily found this information:
Every phone since those 2 that used the SD810 had the v2.1 SOC NOT the v2. HTC later switched to the v2.1 SD810 despite claiming they always used it.
Other members have stated above several times how to read/understand the CPU-Z revision number in the SOC tab. We can't help you on the forum if you won't accept what's being shown/told to you in black and white numerous times.
You could have simply searched the forum to find your answer instead of creating a new OP and cluttering up the forum. This is a 27+ page OP discussing the SD810 in the Nexus 6P which should contain everythign that I've already stated.
To further prove my point here is another OP discussing the LG G Flex 2's SD810 variant. It looks like LG changed from v2 to the v2.1 as production of the phone continued therefore proving no one is using the v2 in a new production phone.
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My only concerned is if it has SD 810 v2.1 then why v2.1 is not showing on SOC tab.
On my previous nexus 6p some where it show SD 810 v2.1 my on soc tab or some other app i don't remember.
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The name of the SoC is the Snapdragon 810, that's why you only see that. It doesn't show revision number.
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The name of the SoC is the Snapdragon 810, that's why you only see that. It doesn't show revision number.
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Thanks. Is there any way i can see which version it is.
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It is v2.1, the 6P never has nor ever will use the original SD810. The fact that you're so paranoid about the version shows you didn't do any research on the 6P or any SD810 phone other than reading over heating articles. The only 2 phones that ever used the SD810 v2 were the LG G Flex 2, and the HTC One M9. You can read more about it here
2 minute on Google and you could have easily found this information:
Every phone since those 2 that used the SD810 had the v2.1 SOC NOT the v2. HTC later switched to the v2.1 SD810 despite claiming they always used it.
Other members have stated above several times how to read/understand the CPU-Z revision number in the SOC tab. We can't help you on the forum if you won't accept what's being shown/told to you in black and white numerous times.
You could have simply searched the forum to find your answer instead of creating a new OP and cluttering up the forum. This is a 27+ page OP discussing the SD810 in the Nexus 6P which should contain everythign that I've already stated.
To further prove my point here is another OP discussing the LG G Flex 2's SD810 variant. It looks like LG changed from v2 to the v2.1 as production of the phone continued therefore proving no one is using the v2 in a new production phone.
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Bro don't get angry . I know you have very good knowledge about and that the reason to clear out all the doubts about it.
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Bro don't get angry . I know you have very good knowledge about and that the reason to clear out all the doubts about it.
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I'm not at all angry, so if it sounds that way I apologize. It is frustrating to see the same question over and over when the answer is easily found. I haven't had any overheating issues, even when I OC'd both clusters. It will throttle slightly when it gets hot, but every CPU does.