Fool to hope: CM on Fire HD8 (6th gen)? - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I've been running various builds of CyanogenMod for years on my phones, and I had hoped to see a rooting solution developed rapidly after the new 6th-gen Fire tablets came out. That hasn't really been the case.
While it's a great deal, running NovaLauncher makes it acceptable, this tablet could be so much more...
I've poked around a bit in the Dev forums on these devices, but a lot of this is over my head - previous experience is with CM builds on a G-SII and OnePlus One - but can't really seem to get any good information.
Are there any projections or predictions as to when we'll have a root for the 6th-gen devices? And what would it look like to put a CM build on one, what with Cyanogen dissolving? Any idea what build might be possible? Would I be able to realize the same speed increases I saw coming in to Marshmallow?
Should I dare to hope?
Thanks for any answers,
~well.rested

well.rested said:
Are there any projections or predictions as to when we'll have a root for the 6th-gen devices?
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6th Gen Fire on 5.3.1.1 can be root now
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-kindle-fire-hd8-6th-gen-t3537063

Thank you -- hadn't seen that. Do you have suggestions as to ROMs?
~well.rested

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[HDX 8.9] Let's get CM

Hi guys,
I come to request your help to get CyanogenMod 10.1 to work on the HDX 8.9.
Reading the cyanogen wiki, I get a booting ROM with logcat but no more (I get the pretty cyanogen logo sometimes ...)
I hope some of you can help with their knowledges in order to get a working CM on our beautiful tablet
I attached the current logcat, and you can find a git repo with device files here : https://github.com/ptiwee/android_device_amazon_apollo
There is for sure huge mistakes/leaks, so don't hesitate to help.
Thanks
I wasn't aware that with the locked bootloader that you could flash cm due to not being able to flash a kernel to run with cm.
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donharden2002 said:
I wasn't aware that with the locked bootloader that you could flash cm due to not being able to flash a kernel to run with cm.
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Stock kernel + CM ROM = Hybrid OS. It is doable.
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count me in
Mineturtle33 said:
Stock kernel + CM ROM = Hybrid OS. It is doable.
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So let's do it! One happy community working in concert to get cm working on our beloved device! I'm in and will help in any way possible.
I can try to build it. I don't have a HDX 8.9, I have an HD 2, so I can't test it. And I'm awful at building ROMS :silly: but I can try, and I know how.
AOSP user
Just an observation regarding my experience with my (7") HDX, to date. And I'm all for a CM or AOSP custom ROM. Like some other folks, I got the Kindle Hdx to have a good hardware platform at a good price - I can live without an Amazon OS!
I'm not a developer, just a tinkerer -- 'tho I've had a fair amount of experience playing with various ROMs -- on Motorola devices and now on my new Kindle HDX -- with a BIG THANKS to HashCode for his ongoing work with SafeStrap!
My current "ROM of choice" -- and the one that works best (and most stable) for me is Cpasjuste's aosp-4.2.2-thor-0 (ver. 0) first published in the HDX Android Development forum on January 12th. (Note: ]NOT his 4.2.2-1 published Jan. 24)
BTW: Another BIG THANKS to Cpasjuste for all his work, too! and thanks to all contributors!
I have tried all the thor-gapps roms available to date -- but the AOSP 4.2.2-0 works best for me. PS: I only use Kindle reader and that works on all roms if you use the older version that LinearEquation links to in different forums. If you use a lot of Amazon services -- well that's what the Amazon OS is for!
PS: for the few users who have commented on Google Maps not rendering properly on any of the Amazon based or thor-gapps roms -- it works perfectly on the aosp 4.2.2-0 rom that I mention above.
[instructor sa;50018690]Just an observation regarding my experience with my (7") HDX, to date. And I'm all for a CM or AOSP custom ROM. Like some other folks, I got the Kindle Hdx to have a good hardware platform at a good price - I can live without an Amazon OS!
I'm not a developer, just a tinkerer -- 'tho I've had a fair amount of experience playing with various ROMs -- on Motorola devices and now on my new Kindle HDX -- with a BIG THANKS to HashCode for his ongoing work with SafeStrap!
My current "ROM of choice" -- and the one that works best (and most stable) for me is Cpasjuste's aosp-4.2.2-thor-0 (ver. 0) first published in the HDX Android Development forum on January 12th. (Note: ]NOT his 4.2.2-1 published Jan. 24)
BTW: Another BIG THANKS to Cpasjuste for all his work, too! and thanks to all contributors!
I have tried all the thor-gapps roms available to date -- but the AOSP 4.2.2-0 works best for me. PS: I only use Kindle reader and that works on all roms if you use the older version that LinearEquation links to in different forums. If you use a lot of Amazon services -- well that's what the Amazon OS is for!
PS: for the few users who have commented on Google Maps not rendering properly on any of the Amazon based or thor-gapps roms -- it works perfectly on the aosp 4.2.2-0 rom that I mention above.[/QUOTE]
So is there any downside? Random crashes? Reboots? Anything?
@Mineturtle I'd be happy to test ish for you. What do u need?
Cpasjuste's AOSP ROM for thor has differing issues by release. Release 0 has rendering issues in which almost all games, youtube, and music were unbearable to use/broken. Release 1 has some rendering issues still, but youtube and music work. However, release 1 also has the quirk that no system dialog boxes actually render on screen. You can touch them, but you can't see them. It's weird and kind of frustrating, but do-able.
Ptiwee said:
Hi guys,
I come to request your help to get CyanogenMod 10.1 to work on the HDX 8.9.
Reading the cyanogen wiki, I get a booting ROM with logcat but no more (I get the pretty cyanogen logo sometimes ...)
I hope some of you can help with their knowledges in order to get a working CM on our beautiful tablet
I attached the current logcat, and you can find a git repo with device files here : https://github.com/ptiwee/android_device_amazon_apollo
There is for sure huge mistakes/leaks, so don't hesitate to help.
Thanks
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Looking at the logs it seems your primary problem is with the opengles drivers/libraries as it can't init opengles.
Cpasjuste said:
Looking at the logs it seems your primary problem is with the opengles drivers/libraries as it can't init opengles.
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So what do we do now? how can i help?
Lets push it harder
Guys i read through everything and i believe since this tablet blows the nexus out of the water.i think we should push kitkat i understand we need ot start somewhere and 10.1 is a great starter platform to get devlopers on it and ive been trying to get a starter rom to get this show on the road fo rmyself i think we should keep up this thread and submit it cm personally.:highfive::laugh:
wazedubstep said:
Guys i read through everything and i believe since this tablet blows the nexus out of the water.i think we should push kitkat i understand we need ot start somewhere and 10.1 is a great starter platform to get devlopers on it and ive been trying to get a starter rom to get this show on the road fo rmyself i think we should keep up this thread and submit it cm personally.:highfive::laugh:
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There is a thread about a bounty to unlock the boot loader. I think that's our best course of action. An unlocked boot loader gives us so many options. The bounty is for the 7 inch HDX but the hardware is almost identical I would be surprised if it didn't work for both. If we get the bounty high enough we could recruit some low level programmers to our cause.
This is my 69th post... hehe... I'm such a little kid at heart
gutts10 said:
There is a thread about a bounty to unlock the boot loader. I think that's our best course of action. An unlocked boot loader gives us so many options. The bounty is for the 7 inch HDX but the hardware is almost identical I would be surprised if it didn't work for both. If we get the bounty high enough we could recruit some low level programmers to our cause.
This is my 69th post... hehe... I'm such a little kid at heart
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In. That case its settled let's start a bounty page and get this show on the road :laugh::laugh:
wazerdub said:
In. That case its settled let's start a bounty page and get this show on the road :laugh::laugh:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2580428
here ya go... do a little pledge and lets see if we can get a potential programmer a free hdx on our behalf
Could someone make this CM possible
So I need to make some posts
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The bootloader is locked down pretty tightly. I do not think it'll ever be unlocked.
Root is possible on previous updates and may be possible soon on 14.3.2.2
But that's probably all we'll get
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Would work on safe strap if we ever get root. My 16 gig is full as it is though... safe strap made the available memory show too small

UK price reduced to £39.99

Amazon have reduced the price of the Fire in the UK by 20% to £39.99
Nearly as cheap as the Black Friday price before Christmas!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00Y3TM6CO/
I got mine in the Black Friday sale but this is a great price for a very good little tablet. It's not as fast as my Nexus 7 2013 but then it's a fraction of the cost.
If you don't have one and you are reading this just get one.
fergiet said:
I got mine in the Black Friday sale but this is a great price for a very good little tablet. It's not as fast as my Nexus 7 2013 but then it's a fraction of the cost.
If you don't have one and you are reading this just get one.
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If you aren't using any of the amazon apps or features I would recommend installing Slim LP rom from the original android dev section. I've found it very stable, fast and bug free. I have a nexus 7 (2012), which is admittedly 4 years old now, but I run a kitkat (4.4.4) rom on it, which is pretty much the fastest one these days (it struggles a bit with lollipop), but the fire is a lot more responsive and smooth, battery life is also great too.
gsmyth said:
If you aren't using any of the amazon apps or features I would recommend installing Slim LP rom from the original android dev section. I've found it very stable, fast and bug free. I have a nexus 7 (2012), which is admittedly 4 years old now, but I run a kitkat (4.4.4) rom on it, which is pretty much the fastest one these days (it struggles a bit with lollipop), but the fire is a lot more responsive and smooth, battery life is also great too.
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CM 12.1 is another fine rom option for 2015 Fires that is mature, fast and stable. No right answer; selection boils down to personal preference. Read up on pros/cons in the relevant threads. It's great to have choices!
Davey126 said:
CM 12.1 is another fine rom option for 2015 Fires that is mature, fast and stable. No right answer; selection boils down to personal preference. Read up on pros/cons in the relevant threads. It's great to have choices!
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Yep, big fan of CM and have used it on other devices more than any other rom previously, but went with Slim rom to give it a go and havent found any problems, so didnt feel the need to try CM. Its great to have such solid stock android builds for the tablet. I have another fire tablet with the years subscription for content etc, but once they expire I will be setting it up the same way. I was a bit wary of flashing anything to begin with, as its for family use and I can accept any bugs or missing functionality on my own devices, but would rather not give it to someone else to deal with. But I havent had to give it a second thought, so hats of to the devs for their work.
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Yep, big fan of CM and have used it on other devices more than any other rom previously, but went with Slim rom to give it a go and havent found any problems, so didnt feel the need to try CM. Its great to have such solid stock android builds for the tablet. I have another fire tablet with the years subscription for content etc, but once they expire I will be setting it up the same way. I was a bit wary of flashing anything to begin with, as its for family use and I can accept any bugs or missing functionality on my own devices, but would rather not give it to someone else to deal with. But I havent had to give it a second thought, so hats of to the devs for their work.
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I'm a hard core CM user every device I've owned except maybe 2 have used it unfortunately I tried to flash it with flash fire and bricked so currently using SlimLP and its pretty rocking honestly
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Back up to £49.99 unfortunately, but still a bargain when you install CM12.1

Will android 7.1 (dev preview) be rootable?

Hey guys,
I'm thinking about rooting my phone to get the pixel experience (android assistant, navigation buttons etc). But since android 7. 1 developer preview is on the doorstep, I think it might be better to wait a bit longer, because it might not be compatible with the current root methods. So, what do you guys think? Will the current root methods work on 7.1?
What we guys think? This is a useless post. And it's raining outside.
When it comes we'll see, obviously. cheeez
There's already a thread about 7.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/unconfirmed-7-1-nougat-released-6p-2017-t3474270
I guess your guess is good as mine. Too early to know.
If I were a betting flasher, then I would say "yes"!

Fastest/Smoothest ROM for Nexus 6?

HI everyone
I'm currently running LineageOS17 in my Shamu, but i'm wondering if there is a faster or smother room for the device
I'm really happy with LineageOS actually, it's just curiosity, I read that it's HavocOS, somebody can confirm?
Many thanks!
Pilsener said:
HI everyone
I'm currently running LineageOS17 in my Shamu, but i'm wondering if there is a faster or smother room for the device
I'm really happy with LineageOS actually, it's just curiosity, I read that it's HavocOS, somebody can confirm?
Many thanks!
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All ROMs use LineageOS's shamu kernel and device code, so you won't see much of a difference.
I've used several Android 10 ROMs, including LOS, and have settled on crDroid because it has a lot of customisation (though in itself that's normal) but also Face Unlock, which I really like. Other ROMs may also have it - I haven't checked. Overall I agree with Elektroschmock - since they use the same code base you'll find it difficult to find huge differences. They have all been stable for me - just Face Unlock made the difference for me, but I reckon you'll be happy with pretty much any one of them.
Edit after three days. Right, that's it for me. I'm taking my own advice. This is definitely the last time I'll offer any help or support to a junior member. I'm done with their lack of interest in answers.
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I've used several Android 10 ROMs, including LOS, and have settled on crDroid because it has a lot of customisation (though in itself that's normal) but also Face Unlock, which I really like. Other ROMs may also have it - I haven't checked. Overall I agree with Elektroschmock - since they use the same code base you'll find it difficult to find huge differences. They have all been stable for me - just Face Unlock made the difference for me, but I reckon you'll be happy with pretty much any one of them.
Edit after three days. Right, that's it for me. I'm taking my own advice. This is definitely the last time I'll offer any help or support to a junior member. I'm done with their lack of interest in answers.
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Because someone doesn't reply doesn't mean they have no interest .
I feel like XDA would be more active if there is a Discord. Reddit is also a good resource that has taken over the popularity of sites
dahawthorne said:
I've used several Android 10 ROMs, including LOS, and have settled on crDroid because it has a lot of customisation (though in itself that's normal) but also Face Unlock, which I really like. Other ROMs may also have it - I haven't checked. Overall I agree with Elektroschmock - since they use the same code base you'll find it difficult to find huge differences. They have all been stable for me - just Face Unlock made the difference for me, but I reckon you'll be happy with pretty much any one of them.
Edit after three days. Right, that's it for me. I'm taking my own advice. This is definitely the last time I'll offer any help or support to a junior member. I'm done with their lack of interest in answers.
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Oh no! Sorry, It really does interest me! I'm still using LOS17, I just wanted to read another user experiences with different roms! That's all. Thanks for your answer, und danke to Elektroschmock for keeping Shamu alive! :fingers-crossed:
I'm just wondering how ROMs are classified into 2 subforums NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT
for me, I tend to like ROMs in 1st sub cause it is original. but havocs is also very good though lol
ponichia said:
I'm just wondering how ROMs are classified into 2 subforums NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT
for me, I tend to like ROMs in 1st sub cause it is original. but havocs is also very good though lol
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if i want to put my build in original android development forum i can but i like android development forum
ponichia said:
I'm just wondering how ROMs are classified into 2 subforums NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT
for me, I tend to like ROMs in 1st sub cause it is original. but havocs is also very good though lol
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AmirHRC said:
if i want to put my build in original android development forum i can but i like android development forum
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For clarification why there are two different forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112240
So "Android Development" is the right place for most ROMs as the only thing they do is rename some LineageOS stuff.
Elektroschmock said:
For clarification why there are two different forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112240
So "Android Development" is the right place for most ROMs as the only thing they do is rename some LineageOS stuff.
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lol Why are you so excited? and yes ican post my android 11 build and you can take device tree and rename some stuff ?
AmirHRC said:
lol Why are you so excited? and yes ican post my android 11 build and you can take device tree and rename some stuff
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I was just answering his question.
I was answering with Android 10 ROMs in my mind.
If you do a proper Android 11 bringup for shamu, it would be justified to post it in original development.
And Yes I would use your repositories - thats the spirit oft open source. But I suspect they are in a state where it's better to keep them closed as I do with mine.
I love full gestures in Android 10, so I tried several roms to find the smoothest one with full gestures on: Lineage, crDroid, Pure Pixel, Carbon. All with original kernels, nanoGapps and some 20 apps of mine installed.
The smoothest performance over time I found with Pixel Experience, using Lawnchair2 as a home launcher.
Cheers
PS: all of them roms run super smooth if you do not use full gestures, and each has its super nice tweaks
alvi.bagolini said:
I love full gestures in Android 10, so I tried several roms to find the smoothest one with full gestures on: Lineage, crDroid, Pure Pixel, Carbon. All with original kernels, nanoGapps and some 20 apps of mine installed.
The smoothest performance over time I found with Pixel Experience, using Lawnchair2 as a home launcher.
Cheers
PS: all of them roms run super smooth if you do not use full gestures, and each has its super nice tweaks
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update:
moved to Arrow os androdid11 (by amazing AmirHRC, thanks!), same quick response with gesture navigation, plus no glitches, super. Beware you will loose the google camera with its nice HDR. Up to you..

SM-T510

Hi all,
Does anyone know what roms are compatible with the Tab A 10.1 2019 version? I see a lot of roms for 2016 version but not for the 2019.
Running stock Nexus, and I don't have any complaints except that you hardly can customize it yourself. I have a bought icon pack but can't use it for example.
Greetings Rick
I've actually just flashed a number of ROM's for this baby in the last few weeks - there are plenty to play with.
I settled on this as I think it was the best overall:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...rom-nexus-stock-2019-galaxy-tab-10-1-t4056233
Have fun.
Thank you for the time to respond Where are you looking for when finding a Rom. Im on Nexus stock aosp based. But there are still some things I would like to see different. As I only use the tab for 1 game. Still chrashes, issues with keyboard. So I don't mind customizing it.
Greetings from Holland
Yeah it's a good tab, for its price. So I'm kinda buffels by the fact that there is hardly one on this forum.
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BoBoRicky said:
Thank you for the time to respond Where are you looking for when finding a Rom. Im on Nexus stock aosp based. But there are still some things I would like to see different. As I only use the tab for 1 game. Still chrashes, issues with keyboard. So I don't mind customizing it.
Greetings from Holland
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There are two other custom ROMs for the T510. LOS 17.1 and a Nexus version based on Android 9. I've been using the Nexus 10 one for months and have never had a crash or keyboard problem. Maybe it is the one game you play that has the problems.
4929york said:
[/COLOR]There are two other custom ROMs for the T510. LOS 17.1 and a Nexus version based on Android 9. I've been using the Nexus 10 one for months and have never had a crash or keyboard problem. Maybe it is the one game you play that has the problems.
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Always a posibility, still i seem to have a habbit of trying stuff out.
Don't know if I should post this under OP but it's in the same line of it. Like I said love to tinker around with software for 10 years ago or something I got a budget phone that in the end would not update Android anymore so that was the moment I came to the conclusion that my model then was a better version of the original. Kinda like in this case, tab a 2016 and 2019 will differ in chipset etc. But tab a is tab a. So I started to go head in and toke a dive into the Android world, met some interesting people including the legendary Mr Carvalho. But... Im not posting this because I like to write or want you to read a book so let's cut to the case, im reading up a bit with customizing etc. Starting where I left off, installing ADB drivers again MTK drivers C++ all that good stuff. But then I kept reading, and correct me if I'm wrong but did you guys crack the code? The sometimes impossible to port source code? Or am I getting that GSI wrong. The software from the OD will be used to power the custom Rom so finding and combining code is almost a thing of the past? I tried to flash one last night to see if it really was that easy. Managed to get the tablet into a recovery bootloop. Installed the Nexus Rom again now the Los version. So I guess I did something wrong I think to know what it whas but before I make a paperweight from it, I think it's better to ask first.
So GSI, restrictions? Things to look for. Is it possible on this device?
Device is Treble ready
Supports A/B Arm
So it should right?
Off topic. This is a question for the Nexus Rom. Why are some Samsung features disabled? Like screen recording. Used multiple now all end up recording 0 or no internal audio. Other Samsung features like the camera, mail service etc. Only thing I'm searching for is the screen recording function with internal sound. Anny way to enable it or an alternative?
Thanks in advance.
BoBoRicky said:
Don't know if I should post this under OP but it's in the same line of it. Like I said love to tinker around with software for 10 years ago or something I got a budget phone that in the end would not update Android anymore so that was the moment I came to the conclusion that my model then was a better version of the original. Kinda like in this case, tab a 2016 and 2019 will differ in chipset etc. But tab a is tab a. ...
Thanks in advance.
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Utter nonsense. The only thing "Tab A" tablets have in common is the name.
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Utter nonsense. The only thing "Tab A" tablets have in common is the name.
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I understand that.
wHEN TO PAY
So I would like to start by saying great job, I agree with house things where set in place in the long run, I would say lets wait on future runs, just because it was future runs that caused an issuee. Either way thqanks for the recommendations but this seems like it will be a judge appointed issue., i appreciate everything but+
I use the Nexus, Android 10, AOSP-based rom from Magedanz. I works great, I tried LOS 17.1 and LOS based Nexus as well, but settled on the AOSP based due to the lack of support of the 400GB microsd I have in my T510 from LOS and the LOS based Nexus rom not able to read my microsd. The AOSP rom read it just fine and was able to format it correctly.

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