Sell me on the device! I currently have the S7E and its due for an upgrade and looking to pick up the V20 primarily for its video and audio awesomeness. Is it worth doing this upgrade? Part of me thinks its not really a good idea being they are pretty even spec wise (what I can see). So for people that use the phone camera alot is it worth upgrading to?
My wife has S7E. I came from Note 7. Felt like S7E was a downgrade from Note 7.
I've been thrilled with the V20 overall. I'm not a big camera person - so can't give much input there. But from an overall experience I'd definitely recommend it.
Absolutely worth the shift. Move on with V20 without any doubt.
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Some people will tell you "don't because the photos will come up with an oil painting effect " however, i only see that when i zoom the photo to the maximum and not in all the photos i get to see it. But i love how this phone take pictures ans videos. And also how it sounds. If you happen to have a friend with a V20, ask him to lend it to you for a couple of minutes and give it a try. In my opinion, it is worth the $820 - 200 = 600. 600 - 149 = 451. This if you got all the promotions ?
I actually switched from a S7 Edge to the V20, and I love it. The V20 is so much faster, and I think the second display implementation is much better than the edge display (although I kinda miss AOD and the Amoled but it's not a huge loss).
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I actually switched from a S7 Edge to the V20, and I love it. The V20 is so much faster, and I think the second display implementation is much better than the edge display (although I kinda miss AOD and the Amoled but it's not a huge loss).
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I agree w 2nd display vs edge. Never used edge. If i had gone to S7, might have gone non-edge variety. Use 2nd screen all the time on V20.
Never used always on display on Note 7 - 2nd screen is much better implementation for the same info
Also thought id miss LED - haven't one bit.
Thought the finger print sensor on back was awkward at first. But with V20 just have to put finger there, not push button to activate like Note 7 - it has worked well.
Lack of physical buttons - real ones feel strange now lol.
Thought i would miss SPen - don't - EXCEPT the ability to make gifs with it.
Several other new features too that have enhanced my opinion of V20 as not only a replacement of Note 7, but an upgrade.
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I agree w 2nd display vs edge. Never used edge. If i had gone to S7, might have gone non-edge variety. Use 2nd screen all the time on V20.
Never used always on display on Note 7 - 2nd screen is much better implementation for the same info
Also thought id miss LED - haven't one bit.
Thought the finger print sensor on back was awkward at first. But with V20 just have to put finger there, not push button to activate like Note 7 - it has worked well.
Lack of physical buttons - real ones feel strange now lol.
Thought i would miss SPen - don't - EXCEPT the ability to make gifs with it.
Several other new features too that have enhanced my opinion of V20 as not only a replacement of Note 7, but an upgrade.
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The one downside with 2nd screen is, being LCD, I have to turn it off at night because there's a good amount of light leaking. Not a huge issue, at least LG include the feature to put it on a timer.
I love the position of the fingerprint sensor, it's so much better than being on the front. With front scanners, you have to bend your thumb terribly to reach the scanner when holding the phone with 1 hand. With the back sensor you can practically rest your finger on the sensor. And the Tap-On unlock code is such a cool feature for when you can't reach the back of the device. The 1 thing I hate though is the power button. I love how fast the device unlocks but sometimes I actually want to see the lock screen.
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The one downside with 2nd screen is, being LCD, I have to turn it off at night because there's a good amount of light leaking. Not a huge issue, at least LG include the feature to put it on a timer.
I love the position of the fingerprint sensor, it's so much better than being on the front. With front scanners, you have to bend your thumb terribly to reach the scanner when holding the phone with 1 hand. With the back sensor you can practically rest your finger on the sensor. And the Tap-On unlock code is such a cool feature for when you can't reach the back of the device. The 1 thing I hate though is the power button. I love how fast the device unlocks but sometimes I actually want to see the lock screen.
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Ive never really noticed the light leaking (i prob will now, thanks lol)
I used tap on/pin personally when finger print is not convenient. But that's rare. I cant remember the last time i actually pressed the power button.
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Ive never really noticed the light leaking (i prob will now, thanks lol)
I used tap on/pin personally when finger print is not convenient. But that's rare. I cant remember the last time i actually pressed the power button.
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Haha sorry it really isn't that bad, just noticeable after using AOD on S7E
That's fair, I guess it's just nice to have the option. Maybe Android will do away with the lock screen in a few years anyway lol
Honestly I would say wait until the G6 is released or the Galaxy S8 is released. Then you can make your decision. Sure they are a couple of months out, but those phones more than likely could and probably will be a better upgrade than the V20. But then again, if you're wanting a phone that you can for sure root and have an unlocked bootloader then definitely make sure you pick one of these guys up soon.
Look. I came from a N7 to the V20. I actually quite prefer the asthetics and the AMOLED display of the N7. However, when I decided to make the switch, I knew what I was going for in the device. I wanted a multitude of features that the V20 had that the N7 lacked. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I actually wanted the V20 more than the N7, so it felt like an upgrade to me. If you are looking to be talked into a device, it isn't the right one for you. I say hold off until end of Feb middle March when they announce the S8 line and see what that brings. If nothing exciting is projected, then you still have the V20 (or even the G6) to upgrade to.
Love the v20 of you like crisp clear audio its a must buy.
I drive truck so i use it for music etc 12 hours a day.
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Well, I came from the short-lived Galaxy Note 7.
Strictly camera wise, I think the S7/N7 camera is a clear winner, especially in low light. But the wide angle lens for the V20 is incredibly useful. Just be careful with the lens, it's fragile.
But everything else about the V20 is terrific. Multi tasking with Nougat is brilliant. It's speedy, with lots of RAM. Battery life is good, removable and supports Quick Charge. At least for my variant, it supports Cat. 12 LTE, so it's future proof. And VoLTE, which means call quality is very clear.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with this phone. It's underrated IMO.
My only disappointment is it doesn't support 3G video calls. But I've read that some US variants support this.
My most recent phones have been the Galaxy S7e, Note 7, back to the S7e, 2nd Note 7, and now the V20. I went with the V20 because it had decent specs and I'd already done the S7e twice. If you like the camera in the S7 , you'll be disappointed with the one in the V20. I'd put the picture quality about equivalent with what I got from the Note 4. Personally I will probably get the S8 in April. I miss too many things from the Samsung line like the AMOLED screen, Samsung Pay, water proofing, wireless charging, and camera quality. I also like the edge screen better than the second LCD. I find the icons on the second LCD too high up to easily hit one handed. A couple things I have liked on the V20 are the rear fingerprint reader and the metal back.
Oh that I agree. The second screen on the top is too high, due to the large screen. So I don't really use it much.
I'm looking forward to the S8. Hopefully there is a model without the Edge display. I don't really need that.
V20 is a great phone feature wise, looks much better than the S7E (in my oppinion of course), audio output is great, software is decent, but battery life is a big letdown. Choose it only if you don't care about the battery life.
Thanks for all the reply's! I think I'm gonna go with the LG V20 switch it up. Is the Version version rootable?
Well it looks like many people answered your question,, myself i had the S7E for two weeks, before seeing that there was not a lot of development for the phone. That's why i switched.
i actually came from a note 7 as well. Had a choice between a v20 or a s7e.
I figured the s7e was a downgrade so i went with the v20.
my thoughts:
1. Note 7 camera is way better. At auto, you practically end up with great pictures almost every time. Many people will tell you here the v20 camera is awesome when it's in manual, but I don't have time to set the settings first before taking a shot. Taking pictures of moving objects such as people walking will end up with blurred people even in bright light. Manual settings at a faster shutter speed will fix that of course.
2. The second screen is useful when off when I want to turn on the flash light. But that's about the only use I have for it lol. I still end up using nav button to switch apps...habits die hard.
3. Battery life is good for both phones.
4. Screen of Note 7 is still better.
5. I think Note 7 to v20 wasn't an upgrade. It was a little downgrade, but it was newer than the s7e...so I guess I really didn't have a choice. It was a Note 4 to Note 7 anyways...so still an upgrade from that.
6. Do I think you should switch from an s7e to a v20....right now? no. Last year, probably a yes...but now that new phones are around the corner, I suggest you wait for those.
Look at the Mate 9 it's a great phone with insane battery and the speed of the software is unmatched. I also have a v20
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I really do like my HTC One. The build quality is fantastic, Sense 6.0 is actually useful without being annoying, and without slowing down the phone. I came from an iPhone 5, which only downside I can think of is the screen size. Something about the HTC One just leaves me wanting more... like, the only downsides I can see is the camera, and the lack of physical buttons.
I really like S5's camera, the fingerprint scanner, the fact that it is IP67 waterproof and dust proof is nice. I also heard it is easier to hold in the hand since it's not as tall. It having a removable back is also nice to be able to swap out the battery. I feel like it being plastic doesn't matter because either phone is gonna be inside of a case anyways.
I'm kinda on the border of what to do. Part of me wants to keep the M8 but the camera is just so terrible.. I love everything else but the camera. The S5, is kinda scary because I am on AT&T and it coming with a locked boot loader irritates me.
Thoughts?
I think you've made you choice.
My wife has the S5. It's pretty good.
HTC UltimEight ??
I was in the same situation before going with the HTC ONE. I feel the M8's camera will be good enough for the average consumer who just post pictures to instagram, facebook etc. I had the same aurgument too (I am just going to put it into a case). what really puts me over to the M8 is sense; I just can not deal with touchwiz I do not like the colors the use and the mass aray of features I will not use. The fingerprint scanner is hit or miss at this time, and is really hard to use with one hand. KNOX may (not sure) affect rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
I feel that from a hardware and design standpoint I can go either way S5 or M8 but its the software for me that takes me over.
I'm in the same boat, love the phone hate the camera. I personally wouldn't go samsung, but everyone is different.
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Typing on the S5 is atrocious. The keyboard lags, the Google Keyboard lags. It sucks. So annoying. Sense is unbelievably faster than TouchWiz.
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I really do like my HTC One. The build quality is fantastic, Sense 6.0 is actually useful without being annoying, and without slowing down the phone. I came from an iPhone 5, which only downside I can think of is the screen size. Something about the HTC One just leaves me wanting more... like, the only downsides I can see is the camera, and the lack of physical buttons.
I really like S5's camera, the fingerprint scanner, the fact that it is IP67 waterproof and dust proof is nice. I also heard it is easier to hold in the hand since it's not as tall. It having a removable back is also nice to be able to swap out the battery. I feel like it being plastic doesn't matter because either phone is gonna be inside of a case anyways.
I'm kinda on the border of what to do. Part of me wants to keep the M8 but the camera is just so terrible.. I love everything else but the camera. The S5, is kinda scary because I am on AT&T and it coming with a locked boot loader irritates me.
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I have both right now and I cant decide which one I want to keep.
As far your concerns go,
1. I used the fingerprint scanner for 1 day and disabled it because it would hardly ever work the first time for me.
2. IP67 is great and all but I'm to scared to throw it in water. For the spills though, the htc has an ipx3 rating mean it most likely wont get damaged. Theres a video on youtube of an htc m8 working perfectly fine after being submerged in water for 90 minutes.
The glass on the s5 is a piece of crap. I carry both phones with me but s5 already has a bunch of light scratches after 3 days while my htc one has zero.
3. The camera is a mixed bag. For indoor shots in which a bright light source (like a window) is in the viewfinder, the s5 wins. The M8 overexposed the light way too much. Everywhere else inside, the M8 takes a better picture with and without flash. Outdoor day time shots both look great. Zooming is also fine on the m8 unless your trying to read what a sign says in the far background of the picture. Outdoor night shots, look great on both but the m8 capture more scenery. Both have incredibly fast focus and shutter speeds. Camera UI is way nicer and more intuitive on the htc than the s5. The s5, depsite its many modes, does not allow for a whole a lot of control with image quality.
I attached a pair of indoor night time shots from both phones. First one is m8
4. Build quality, both feel great. HTC is little easier too hold for me since its narrower but its also more slippery than the s5. I hate the damn charigng port flap on the s5 and dislike the power button on top of the m8 (dislike instead of hate because the double tap feature makes up for it)
5. I hate the onscreen buttons on the m8. Its a waste of space and it raises the damn keyboard. Love the button layout on the s5 and the keyboard is awesome.
6. I personally am not really worried about the removable battery since change phones every year
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Hey guys! Just made my first impressions video on the Galaxy Note 4! Went a different route and didn't get into the obvious since it's not a full review, and just went into how it felt using the device for a short time.
Video link:
The Galaxy Note 4 - My Casual First Impressions: http://youtu.be/-FPV6Vlu0qg
Written:
The first thing you’re going to notice with the Galaxy Note 4 is it’s excellent build quality, rivaled by only a few phones. Having owned a Note 3 and being satisfied with it’s fake metal banding, once you get a phone with this kind of build quality you really realize what you were missing out on. Holding it gives you a very premium feel in your hand which is awesome. Even with the chamfered edges, it’s still comfortable to hold. I’d say it feels better and more substantial in your hand than that of the LG G3 even with it being quite a bit larger.
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The display on this is my favorite. Displaymate also says this is the most accurate display on the market today. One thing I missed from using phones with an LCD display, is when the background is black.. the pixels are still lit up. As we all know, this is not the case with samsung phones and the blacks are purely black and really make the images pop. Oh, and for all the people that complain and say the screen it too vibrant? You realize you basically have a TV in your pocket, right? Go to the settings and CHANGE it do a different mode. Cinema mode is what seems to be the most accurate.
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The back, still being faux leather, still feels very nice in the hand and personally.. I like a plastic back. When I owned the HTC One I was way to scared to set that thing down without a case because I didn’t want to either, A, mess up the screen. Or B, mess up the nice metal backing. Not to mention in the winter it can get quite cold to the touch and just isn’t worth the trade-off to me.
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Performance on this thing is just incredible. Now I don’t like stock launchers. Even with the Nexus 6 I will be putting Nova launcher on it. So all of that “touchwiz lag” people talk about, I’ve yet to see it no this phone while with my Note 3, the first day you could notice it right off that bat with certain things. Keep in mind, switching the launcher only changes your homescreen, touchwiz is still everywhere else. But.. it’s a lot better than it was.
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One thing that I’ve noticed with this phone and that can get quite annoying is the feature to minimize whatever screen you’re on. It’s a really nice feature, but I find myself accidentally activating it all the time when trying to go to my notification tray. I like to swipe down from the corner, and now that is how you minimize the app. So, I now have to adjust a bit and make sure I’m not hitting the corner exactly.
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One thing I didn't plan on mentioning with this phone was the whole "gapgate" issue. Because to me, while I could see very clearly in videos that there is some sort of gap, I figured it wouldn't effect anything on a day-to-day basis, if at all. That was until today.
I took my phone out of my pockets (it's the weekend, I'm wearing only sweats and casual clothes), and sure enough.. there was lint or something at the top of the display. So I had to actually take a receipt I had laying around to dig it out because sadly, my nails would not suffice.
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Conclusion:
Other than the small gripe I have with the minimizing the window and the.. I'm not even sure if it should be a big deal to me or not, gap issue, this phone is absolutely incredible.
However, if you're ready for an upgrade, wait until the Nexus 6 is out officially before deciding on whether you should get this, the Nexus 6, or for you Verizon folk, the Droid Turbo.
nice video
appreciate your input, good video!
Turn off multi window if you don't use it and it won't minimize window
You can turn of the swipe to minimize gesture but still keep multi window on but you'll have to activate it by holding the back button
Well I'm returning s8 plus. It just can't beat out pixel overall. Pros and cons of s8 plus for anybody interested.
Pros
Screen- is bright and very big
Battery- best battery I've ever used to date
Sdcard- also best phone with sd slot I've used to date, loads 10,000 plus photos in seconds
Camera- excels in low light, regular light it can't touch pixel
Web pages- loading and scrolling is probably fastest I've ever seen on mobile device
Samsung pay- still love Samsung pay over Android pay
No bezels- looks amazing and sleek
Samsung ui- I've always loved it and I still like it. Has countless options that are unreal but still not as fast as pure Android but that's to be expected
Edge screen- probably my favorite feature. Absolutely love night clock
Cons
Screen- is weird ratio and colors look over saturated except on basic mode then everything else looks washed out. Some apps don't like no bezels. Keyboard is weird and reply tabs in notification bar are very tiny and odd
Camera- normal light pixel has it beat, too saturated and unrealistic
Fingerprint sensor location- yes you get used to it but back on pixel and it is still way easier
Screen protector/case- good luck getting a glass screen protector to stick and a case to match without intruding on each other
No bezels- I found it hard to reach to bottom of phone for home button or anything on nav bar really
Bixby/buttons- bixby needs no statement it is just rubbish (and bixby button) and the other buttons are spread out. I like how pixel has volume and power on same side and textured power button
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Well I'm returning s8 plus. It just can't beat out pixel overall. Pros and cons of s8 plus for anybody interested.
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Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.
[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)
However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]
Enjoy your Pixel XL
coldmethod said:
Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.
[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)
However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]
Enjoy your Pixel XL
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They might but things like the over saturated screen and weird ratio are very big deals to me so therefore they outweigh all the good lol
Yes the fingerprint is weird. I honestly think they quit R&Ding the device and just threw on back to beat iphone out and get some sales. Hopefully they take their time with the Note 8 and it is perfection. I would rather have my note 7 back over the s8 plus at this point.
Touchwiz has gotten better but yes it could still use some more features. But hey they all could always use more feautres!
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They might but things like the over saturated screen and weird ratio are very big deals to me so therefore they outweigh all the good lol
Yes the fingerprint is weird. I honestly think they quit R&Ding the device and just threw on back to beat iphone out and get some sales. Hopefully they take their time with the Note 8 and it is perfection. I would rather have my note 7 back over the s8 plus at this point.
Touchwiz has gotten better but yes it could still use some more features. But hey they all could always use more feautres!
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Fair call on the oversaturation, I think I have just gotten used to it (almost all of my devices are Samsung, I'm constantly fiddling with our TV picture settings ). Although I'd probably suggest getting used to the new aspect ratio, I imagine it will make an appearance on the Note 8 and become the norm, considering Samsung now has a penchant for using large phones with one hand.
Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.
No bezel - this is a plus for me, and most people. This is the way smartphones are going. Less bezel = better phone. More for aesthetics than anything.
Screen protector/case - I never use them. They ruin the look and feel of the phone.
Camera - still the best on the market in my opinion. Beats anything else out there.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...probably-shouldnt-buy-a-google-pixel-anymore/
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Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.
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Cheers for the tip, I hadn't touched this setting, but now I've made the switch it looks much better.
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Fair call on the oversaturation, I think I have just gotten used to it (almost all of my devices are Samsung, I'm constantly fiddling with our TV picture settings ). Although I'd probably suggest getting used to the new aspect ratio, I imagine it will make an appearance on the Note 8 and become the norm, considering Samsung now has a penchant for using large phones with one hand.
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Yeah I don't like the fake look though. If I take a photo I want it to be realistic. I took some photos and then look at photo and object and was like man it looks way off. The note 8 better have a normal screen ratio!
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Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.
No bezel - this is a plus for me, and most people. This is the way smartphones are going. Less bezel = better phone. More for aesthetics than anything.
Screen protector/case - I never use them. They ruin the look and feel of the phone.
Camera - still the best on the market in my opinion. Beats anything else out there.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...probably-shouldnt-buy-a-google-pixel-anymore/
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I can't stand the over saturation. Looks bad unless you drop to basic. Pixel camera is best imo ?
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I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
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I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
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I couldn't have said it better. The s8 is just so close to perfection but so far from it lol
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I smell descent in the S8+ ranks... lol
coldmethod said:
Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.
[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)
However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]
Enjoy your Pixel XL
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I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
I forgot garbage bixby and the button!!!
Edited op for it!
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you forgot a couple more things that makes the s8+ sweep the floor with it..
HDR screen certification.
IP68 water and dust proofing.
Wireless charging and Fast Wireless Charging
Micro SD card expansion.
Bluetooth 5.0
Always On Display.
Iris scanner security.
bye felicia
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I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
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I also read somewhere that the above sensor placement may hold the CrApple iSh#t 8 from being delivered as per their normal schedule, if it is true at least CrApple have the sense to ensure deadlines don't affect the final product. (please excuse my uncharacteristic optimism regarding CrApple products)
For the fanboys/fence sitters - Yes Apple has it's applications, yes some people prefer simple... this is an Android forum. As I have said in the past iPhones are for people that want a smartphone but aren't smart enough to use them. ~ from an open platform fanboy.
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I forgot garbage bixby and the button!!!
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I too forgot this useless piece of redundant garbage (sort of points out how irrelevant Bixby is in a world of Google Now), although the button remapped to be a "back" button is handy.
Hopefully Samsung will pull their collective heads out of each other's butts and allow the button to be remapped to whatever the consumer wishes without a 3rd party app, instead of the usual "this is how you will use the device you payed for and rightfully own" attitude of large corporations.
-Alan said:
I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
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They wanted it to be on the same spot as the home button under the screen, but Synaptics couldn't get it working good enough in time.
I'm also going to return mine. I'm kind of disappointed that the audio quality is subpar IMHO. Comparing it with my Nexus 6P, the sound level is lower than the 6P and honestly the 6P sounds more crisp. If I'm paying close to a grand for a device- S8+ with paid bundle, I would wish the manufacturer doesn't skimp on features like Samsung did with this phone. The mono speaker audio and then the issue with the tint... I tried adjusting in settings but there's still a slight red hue which is annoying to say the least. The fingerprint scanner... But I can get used to that. The Bixby button being disabled to use with other applications. It's just too many compromises for a device like this. Thinking I'll wait for the Note 8 or the next Pixel. Damn, I had such high hopes and really wanted to like this phone, but I can't justify spending $950 on something I'm not fully satisfied with.
xxsanioutlawxx said:
I'm also going to return mine. I'm kind of disappointed that the audio quality is subpar IMHO. Comparing it with my Nexus 6P, the sound level is lower than the 6P and honestly the 6P sounds more crisp.
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Well pointed out. One of the major gripes I think is the sound quality. I have tested a bunch of different HiFi headphones on my S8+ but it's nowhere close to the previous Mate 9 audio quality: to low the volume, mushy details in medium tonality, overall "not there". I am not sure where Pixel stands from the sound quality perspective but I would be eager to test it beforehand.
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you forgot a couple more things that makes the s8+ sweep the floor with it..
HDR screen certification.
IP68 water and dust proofing.
Wireless charging and Fast Wireless Charging
Micro SD card expansion.
Bluetooth 5.0
Always On Display.
Iris scanner security.
bye felicia
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I actually have sdcard in the op thank you and they still don't beat the pixel lol always on you know pixel has this too right?
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They wanted it to be on the same spot as the home button under the screen, but Synaptics couldn't get it working good enough in time.
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Once again shows Samsung is becoming more like Apple. I got money on the s9 having it under screen on front pulling more people in to buy it instead of waiting a few more months and perfecting the s8!
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I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
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There were two key features that kept me from getting the pixel. Wireless charging and dust and water resistant. In my line of work I need That! If pixel 2 has those, I'm sold.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've used my phone for about a week now, and I just love it. The phone is great, quality, screen color, brightness, comfortable in the hand, great photo quality, nice sound. My only BUT is MIUI, but well, for the moment I use NOVA.
I have been using this phone for a month now but I have noticed a left-right wobble in the screen. Is that normal or I need to get it checked from xiaomi. The wobble just ruins the premium overall experience with the phone.
harmeet_randhawa5 said:
I have been using this phone for a month now but I have noticed a left-right wobble in the screen. Is that normal or I need to get it checked from xiaomi. The wobble just ruins the premium overall experience with the phone.
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I think that's normal, I've seen it reported on a couple of the video reviews. That's the price you pay for a slider mechanism and no notch. A small price, imo.
After the first 12 hours, I'm very ambivalent about this phone. I absolutely love the display, it gorgeous to look at, very nearly bezel-less, and much sharper than my previous Samsung AMOLED (albeit an old one). What I don't like is the weight and the slippery surfaces. It's a bit better with the cover on, but what's the point of a flashy ceramic surface if it's only usable with a case over it? I realize this is a general problem with pretty much every high-end phone, not just this one, and I suspect that people who don't like plastic are the same ones who worry about themes.
Recieved mine 3 days ago.
I think it's good. Coming from a Mix 2, it's a refined version of the concept working pretty well.
Mine has also this left-right wobble, it's not wobbly.. you can push it to the side a little, if you push it but it makes a litte.
Been using mine for a few days now, and I'm getting used to the increased size. Using gestures helps a lot with general ease-of-use, particularly with one-handed operation. I can't see any wobble issues with mine, but the sliding mechanism is quite stiff compared to what I've seen in the videos, so maybe I got one that's a bit tighter. The speed of the thing is something to behold, booting takes a few seconds, and even running a TWRP backup is super-fast at a couple of minutes at most.
She's a hefty beast of a phone. I often use my phone to read in bed and having an oled display should be nicer for my eyes but even at the lowest brightness it is still fairly bright. The phone is quite heavy. I notice a tad wobble without a case if I am pushing the top right corner. I do not use the front facing camera. Not at all. MIUI is smooth but it has numerous bugs some of which make me frustrated. The main bug is that gboard will not allow me to use a personal dictionary. Other users on MIUI phones suffer the same bug. Still unresolved (there is a bug-ticket) Another bug includes the inability to keep Edge Gestures open. The gestures baked in are nice but being primarily bottom edge gestures it makes you(read me) hold the phone much lower and exacerbates the weight of the device.
Battery performance is excellent. The assistant button is awesome. You can map it. I find myself using google assistant way more because of it.
I will be unlocking and adding a custom ROM as those two bugs make my everyday use of the device harder than it should be. Especially the keyboard. It is incredibly frustrating when I need to type names and places in Japanese because of it.
I came from the mi mix 2 (gifted to my wife) and I also use the Redmi 4x. Both solid phones thanks to the community of developers. Xioami isn't available in my country so if something breaks I am SOL. However, I feel Xioami products are worth the risk.
tl/dr: Solid phone. Heavy. Fast. MIUI is good. But depending on the usuage bugs can be frustrating.
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After the first 12 hours, I'm very ambivalent about this phone. I absolutely love the display, it gorgeous to look at, very nearly bezel-less, and much sharper than my previous Samsung AMOLED (albeit an old one). What I don't like is the weight and the slippery surfaces. It's a bit better with the cover on, but what's the point of a flashy ceramic surface if it's only usable with a case over it? I realize this is a general problem with pretty much every high-end phone, not just this one, and I suspect that people who don't like plastic are the same ones who worry about themes.
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I felt the same way about using the cover, but I purchased a transparent protective film for the back and the screen, and I took away the slippery issue and allowed the phone to look like it had nothing on. It looks gorgeous!
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I felt the same way about using the cover, but I purchased a transparent protective film for the back and the screen, and I took away the slippery issue and allowed the phone to look like it had nothing on. It looks gorgeous!
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Can you post a link to what you used? I'm now using the phone without the cover, since it makes a surprising difference when trying to wedge it into the pocket of my workout shorts, but I'm scared to death of dropping it every time it's in my hand.
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Can you post a link to what you used? I'm now using the phone without the cover, since it makes a surprising difference when trying to wedge it into the pocket of my workout shorts, but I'm scared to death of dropping it every time it's in my hand.
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I used this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KN36KFM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A30R5FB6PSKP9L&psc=1
If you're looking for a hard shell, these won't do, but it will provide some grip and scratch protection. Hope it helps.
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I used this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KN36KFM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A30R5FB6PSKP9L&psc=1
If you're looking for a hard shell, these won't do, but it will provide some grip and scratch protection. Hope it helps.
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Thanks, I may well give that a try. I highly doubt the ceramic will scratch, it's harder than the glass on the front, but I definitely need more grip. Once it's on, is there any way to get it off easily?
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Thanks, I may well give that a try. I highly doubt the ceramic will scratch, it's harder than the glass on the front, but I definitely need more grip. Once it's on, is there any way to get it off easily?
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Yes, it's a protective film, it isn't that hard to remove.
is there a SUPER NIGHT SCENE MODE? or was that the Night Scene Mode
Is this a good phone? Happy day to day use? Is the headphone adapter decent? Does anybody LOVE this?
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Is this a good phone? Happy day to day use? Is the headphone adapter decent? Does anybody LOVE this?
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I do, now I have vanilla Android on it! The hardware is outstanding, the software it ships with I found difficult to use. Now I no longer have MIUI on it, it's by far the best phone I've ever owned. It performs like a flagship, but at nearly half the price of most of its competitors, and it's visually gorgeous. I can't comment on the headphone adapter since I don't use cables other than for fastboot operations.
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I do, now I have vanilla Android on it! The hardware is outstanding, the software it ships with I found difficult to use. Now I no longer have MIUI on it, it's by far the best phone I've ever owned. It performs like a flagship, but at nearly half the price of most of its competitors, and it's visually gorgeous. I can't comment on the headphone adapter since I don't use cables other than for fastboot operations.
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Great! I'm likely to go for a custom ROM / not MUIU myself so it's great to hear the hardware is top notch.
I think this is my next phone. Still a bit curious about how custom ROMs deal with the excellent camera and the slider, but that's not necessarily an immediate concern.
Happy to see it get some love! I might get the jade one, and put the EU ROM on it
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I think that's normal, I've seen it reported on a couple of the video reviews. That's the price you pay for a slider mechanism and no notch. A small price, imo.
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Can you better describe this "wobble"? I don't think I understand what you are referring to. I'm just curious. I have the phone since two weeks ago and don't see anything weird in the screen.
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Can you better describe this "wobble"? I don't think I understand what you are referring to. I'm just curious. I have the phone since two weeks ago and don't see anything weird in the screen.
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If you haven't noticed it, just forget about it. There's nothing wrong with my screen either. The hardware is rock solid, the software leaves a lot to be desired, imo.
Mi MIX 3 is the best android phone I have had so far and I went through all versions of Samsung Galaxy and Google. I am using my global version with stock launcher on T-mobile LTE with no connection issues.
1. Display is just perfect, bright and beautiful with no ugly front camera cutouts.
2. Sliding the phone by default opens the selfie camera, but customizable to any other app.
3. There is a separate button on the side of the phone (like Bixby), which is completely customizable as well.
4. I love how fast the finger print scanner works in this phone. Overall phone operation speed and app launching/operation is faster than my Google Pixel 2 XL and Galaxy note 9.
5. Always on display (AOD) works as expected most of the time (it tends to move up on the screen and turns off in low light conditions).
6. There is a small message indicator light which flashes white light.
7. There is a Edge Glow (similar to Samsung Galaxy phones) feature which is supposed to only work when you receive notifications and AOD is off. I noticed the glow on occasion with AOD on and now I am using a android app "Always On Edge - Edge Lighting" to further customize and use the feature.
8. The phone ships with a plastic phone case/10W wireless charger base/Type C-3.5 mm adapter cable.
9. Camera in this phone is one of the best in the business (especially in low light).
10. Battery appears to be on the smaller side but I have had no issues with moderate use (over 60% left from morning to bed time).
11. Ceramic back is beautiful but a fingerprint magnet ; I am still using the phone without a case, which makes it a bit slippery; I placed a back protector clear film which did not help with the fingerprints but a bit easy to hold.
12. Phone is ~10 grams heavy compared to the Samsung Galaxy note, but it has a great balance and well made feel. You will notice it in the front shirt pocket for few days after the initial use (especially with a case).
13. There is a small movement of the screen in the top left corner (when you tap), due to the slider mechanism, which is barely noticeable.
14. MIUI launcher/ software is very smooth and I never felt the need to root the phone and install vanilla android version. I just changed the defaults for the browser/text apps to google. There is a drop down menu similar to any android with a screenshot toggle.
15. MIUI gives you only two sound options Regular (audible ring)/Silent. Silent mode can be programmed to vibrate; I wish Xiaomi makes it simple with sound/vibrate/silent modes with next SW update. There is a Do not disturb (DND) mode which can be programmed.
16. The stock "vibration intensity" is very low compared to Samsung or Google phones. It is easy to miss a notification or call when the phone is inside the pocket especially with a case. I don't know if any apps can let you change the vibration intensity without rooting.
17. So far, I love everything about the phone which is made better than any other android at any cost. If I drop the phone and break the display, I may not easily find a replacement screen in the local store. For ~$550 phone cost compared to ~$900 I spent on Samsung/Google phones, I am taking that risk.
This phone is AMAZING. Holy crap. Near perfect phone, for me.
What's your favorite things about it so far? Any surprises? Things you've noticed?
For me:
-WOW 120Hz is amazing. Ditto the 9ms response on s-pen.
-The new Notes app is pretty different!! The pages thing makes sense since it exports to PP. It's interesting how the folders are used instead of categories. The whole look is different though... Mine defaults to black, the save button moved or disappeared, the bottom bar is different... Still adjusting!
-5G sucks in my area with T-Mobile. 12 Mbps. I shut it off so I only get LTE, and I get 71 Mbps. That's in my house though, so it'll probably be better outdoors. I hear 5G doesn't penetrate buildings well.
-The finish and feel of the phone is PHENOMENAL. So premium. Blows every other phone away, easily. Definitely pinky tones in the bronze, but I don't care. I'm rocking a clear case because this phone NEEDS to be shown off. The Spigen Liquid Crystal is great! My wife asked me if I bought a pink phone, haha.
-Camera doesn't show the zoom levels right away, which surprised me. I was trying to figure out how to choose the zoom. Had to choose the close up button first I believe. 50x zoom sucks indoors. Grainy as heck!
-That camera bump is beautiful, don't care what anyone says, haha.
-Fingerprint scanner... What on Earth happened? It's SO MUCH BETTER. I haven't had a single failure yet! I had them CONSTANTLY on my Note10+. Either I programmed my fingers better or this thing is way better.
-Hate the new s-pen location. Awkward for 93% of the population.
-Did they remove the ability to turn on the battery percentage? I'm not seeing it.
NO REGRETS! THIS PHONE RULES!
Its an amazing phone. I am coming from a galaxy S8+ so its a huge step up. The last note I had was the the note 4 and the note 7 for like 3 weeks. It does have the battery percentage option. When you pull down the notification panel, the 3 dots icon next to the settings icon and click status bar, that will let you add the battery percentage. I don't feel any issues with the s pen placement. Now I just need a good screen protector for it, but there isn't too many options yet and I am not a fan of those tempered glass protectors. The battery life on it is good too. FIngerprint scanner is super fast. Much better on the front of the screen than behind like it was on the s8. I wish I had also got the moga controller when I ordered the phone, but it is what it is. I just have to wait till september 15th to get it now.
Notifications-Status Bar will get you battery percentage
Lense fog is no bueno
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Its an amazing phone. I am coming from a galaxy S8+ so its a huge step up. The last note I had was the the note 4 and the note 7 for like 3 weeks. It does have the battery percentage option. When you pull down the notification panel, the 3 dots icon next to the settings icon and click status bar, that will let you add the battery percentage. I don't feel any issues with the s pen placement. Now I just need a good screen protector for it, but there isn't too many options yet and I am not a fan of those tempered glass protectors. The battery life on it is good too. FIngerprint scanner is super fast. Much better on the front of the screen than behind like it was on the s8. I wish I had also got the moga controller when I ordered the phone, but it is what it is. I just have to wait till september 15th to get it now.
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Yeah that's for to be a MASSIVE jump in quality! I'm pumped and I'm coming from last year's Note! I think the s-pen bothers me more because I've had it on the right for the last 6 years... So it's muscle memory at this point for me.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Note phones since the 5, and I've never had a scratch! Not sure your usage obviously, but they're really strong. And getting stronger by the year! I like that smooth, naked feel of the glass.
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Thank you!
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Lense fog is no bueno
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Have you experienced it?? I haven't yet. I read one person complaining about it.
this thread makes me sad knowing that my order won't be with me til monday.
My Clear view case is arriving tomorrow though - maybe ill root that :laugh::laugh::good:
I don't notice an improvement in the finger print scanner, still seams slow and fails often still. I turned off battery optimization for biometrics and that didn't seem to help either.
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Yeah that's for to be a MASSIVE jump in quality! I'm pumped and I'm coming from last year's Note! I think the s-pen bothers me more because I've had it on the right for the last 6 years... So it's muscle memory at this point for me.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Note phones since the 5, and I've never had a scratch! Not sure your usage obviously, but they're really strong. And getting stronger by the year! I like that smooth, naked feel of the glass.
Thank you!
Have you experienced it?? I haven't yet. I read one person complaining about it.
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Every time I put my handset in a ac vent mounted vehicle holder
PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah that's for to be a MASSIVE jump in quality! I'm pumped and I'm coming from last year's Note! I think the s-pen bothers me more because I've had it on the right for the last 6 years... So it's muscle memory at this point for me.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Note phones since the 5, and I've never had a scratch! Not sure your usage obviously, but they're really strong. And getting stronger by the year! I like that smooth, naked feel of the glass.
Thank you!
Have you experienced it?? I haven't yet. I read one person complaining about it.
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Really sucks
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Really sucks
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Is it at least clearing up? I don't take pictures while I'm driving with my phone mounted so if it clears up then it's no issue to me.
Love mine. Battery life isn't perfect but pretty much everything else is
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Love mine. Battery life isn't perfect but pretty much everything else is
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Agreed. And even battery life is pretty solid considering the screen!
Not a big jump from the 10 plus for me but:
-Love the zoom on the camera, im pleasantly surprised how well it works.
-The smaller punch hole is definitely noticeable and appreciated.
-I find it very comfortable to hold
-Love the new Spen location
-Really love the GD power button back where it should be lol
-Almost zero bezel and slightly bigger screen is noticeable for me
-camera bump doesnt bother me at all, i though it might...dont even notice it
-the 512gb of storage is great
- snapdragon 865 plus is fast as blazes
- fingerprint scanner MUCH better than 10plus
Not negatives but must mention
- I dont notice the 120hz a ton honestly
-Battery life is close to the 10 plus but maybe just a bit worse but ive only had it not a week yet so may still improve
Maybe I'm in the minority but was the delay on the spen that big of a deal?
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Ooof thats bad. I dunno folks say it happens all the time but if it happens to me it will be the first time in like 23 devices since 2008
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Not a big jump from the 10 plus for me but:
-Love the zoom on the camera, im pleasantly surprised how well it works.
-The smaller punch hole is definitely noticeable and appreciated.
-I find it very comfortable to hold
-Love the new Spen location
-Really love the GD power button back where it should be lol
-Almost zero bezel and slightly bigger screen is noticeable for me
-camera bump doesnt bother me at all, i though it might...dont even notice it
-the 512gb of storage is great
- snapdragon 865 plus is fast as blazes
- fingerprint scanner MUCH better than 10plus
Not negatives but must mention
- I dont notice the 120hz a ton honestly
-Battery life is close to the 10 plus but maybe just a bit worse but ive only had it not a week yet so may still improve
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Really? I went back to 60Hz for a little while to try and compare battery life and almost vomited. Couldn't do it. Try it out if you haven't! A/B comparisons are always the best. Agreed on all other points. VERY pleasantly surprised about the fingerprint scanner improvement. That drove me nuts on the 10+.
Battery being about the same is actually impressive considering the improvements to the screen!
That 5x zoom is AMAZING. Took kids to the zoo yesterday... That was really useful. And they're so CLEAR at that 5x zoom. Absolutely great!
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Maybe I'm in the minority but was the delay on the spen that big of a deal?
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For me it wasn't a big deal, but once I tried the new one... I bet it'd be hard to go back it's so instantaneous now. I love it. I use the s-pen hours a day though, haha.
Totally agree with:
* Fingerprint scanner vastly improved since S10+, Note 10+, S20+
* Build quality and feeling while holding is really superb
* 120hz are significantly noticeable, but you get used to it quickly (you realize how noticeable it is, when you go back to a 60hz device)
I'm also leaning towards using it bare naked, to enjoy the actual premium looks and build quality...
However, after 7 days of careful use, I already see some superficial, light scratches on the screen (under certain light angles) ...
Do you really don't have the slightest, tiniest, scratch on it, @PsiPhiDan?
I don’t know if i can post this video comparison of my S20 Ultra vs Note 20 Ultra rattling sound. I’ve seen people complaining about it on the Note 20 Ultra.
But here it is....
https://youtu.be/a_o52ZzwqEE
Conclusion: ***spoiler***
....it is so much quieter than the S20 Ultra. And I appreciate it. :good:
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Totally agree with:
* Fingerprint scanner vastly improved since S10+, Note 10+, S20+
* Build quality and feeling while holding is really superb
* 120hz are significantly noticeable, but you get used to it quickly (you realize how noticeable it is, when you go back to a 60hz device)
I'm also leaning towards using it bare naked, to enjoy the actual premium looks and build quality...
However, after 7 days of careful use, I already see some superficial, light scratches on the screen (under certain light angles) ...
Do you really don't have the slightest, tiniest, scratch on it, @PsiPhiDan?
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I use a clear Spigen case. So nope!
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I use a clear Spigen case. So nope!
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I meant if you were using a screen protector of any kind, not a case
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Oh I see. Maybe I'm just bad at seeing them? I haven't seen a scratch on my screens on Note devices since the Note5. So maybe I'm just not looking in the right light. Definitely not gonna start now! Haha.