I've been using s7 exynos variant for quite some time and it's a very nice phone but there's one huge problem with it, when I start playing some games like modern combat 5, Hit etc at first I get 60 fps then after some time the performance drops. It's probably due to aggressive gpu throttle as the device barely gets warm. Is there any way to disable the gpu throttle?
Have you tried Samsung Games Tuner on playstore?
I'm playing a pretty graphically intensive game and I don't have problems. Are you on power saver mode?
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chanchan05 said:
I'm playing a pretty graphically intensive game and I don't have problems. Are you on power saver mode?
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Nope no power saver mode. I even tried game tuner but same results. Which graphics intensive game do you play and what android version do you have?
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Have you tried Samsung Games Tuner on playstore?
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Yup tried that, no luck
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Nope no power saver mode. I even tried game tuner but same results. Which graphics intensive game do you play and what android version do you have?
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War Robots, Android 6.0.1, December patch.
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My phone is rooted with xposed installed so I'm ready to make some modifications to the system
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Firstly, i have no idea what modifications you could make as i dont have any issues like what you report.
Secondly, modifying any throttling is inherently dangerous. A slight tweak and your phone could overheat and batteries tend to explode when overheated! You've been warned!
I would suggest you look at whether its an app issue before doing something that could brick, damage or destroy you phone. Its also kinda jumping the gun a little to say straight away its GPU throttling as it could be CPU doing work of the GPU due to a dev error (and thats seriously slow!) or even a delay due to loading graphics from an SD card etc.
Also, it could very well be root related...
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My phone is rooted with xposed installed so I'm ready to make some modifications to the system
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Try uninstalling xposed and be happy with a phone which works as it should (and gain the ~25% performance lost because of xposed...)
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Try uninstalling xposed and be happy with a phone which works as it should (and gain the ~25% performance lost because of xposed...)
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Thanks but I have had this problem before installing xposed
It's not root related, i know exactly what you're talking about. I sold my S6, got an S7 just because of this problem. Exact same problem. Now i have the S7 edge, still the same. I dont know what's the problem, but it's very annoying.
Works fine on my shield tablet though
All i can suggest now is to wait for Modern Combat Versus, hopefully it will be better optimised, with Vulkan support
Update : So I recently updated my phone with Nougat and the problem still exists BUT I have noticed something weird, As I said before the game loses fps in less than a minute (it's still quite playable but it's definitely not 60fps), when I press the recent button/key and jump out of the game and press it again and get right into it again I start getting 60fps, then again after a minute I lose the frames.
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Update : So I recently updated my phone with Nougat and the problem still exists BUT I have noticed something weird, As I said before the game loses fps in less than a minute (it's still quite playable but it's definitely not 60fps), when I press the recent button/key and jump out of the game and press it again and get right into it again I start getting 60fps, then again after a minute I lose the frames.
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This is exactly what happened to me,and weird thing you mentioned has been there since marshmallow,this is very weird,some games that isn't even gpu extensive also experience fps drops here and there on both my snapdragon s7 edge and exynos s7
Also weird such a beast machine couldn't run psp emulator without fps drop
Been waiting for more than half year for the fix or solution without rooting
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Update : So I recently updated my phone with Nougat and the problem still exists BUT I have noticed something weird, As I said before the game loses fps in less than a minute (it's still quite playable but it's definitely not 60fps), when I press the recent button/key and jump out of the game and press it again and get right into it again I start getting 60fps, then again after a minute I lose the frames.
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Hi, I'm having exactly the same problem with my S7 Edge and I'm getting crazy trying to develop my little 3D game.
Did you find any solution to this yet? Did you try to contact Samsung?
Thanks for help!
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Hi, I'm having exactly the same problem with my S7 Edge and I'm getting crazy trying to develop my little 3D game.
Did you find any solution to this yet? Did you try to contact Samsung?
Thanks for help!
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I think I've found a solution but it requires root. if your device is rooted then install any kernel manager that supports your rom (I use EX Kernel Manager) and choose the "high performance" profile for both the cpu and gpu. no overclocking is required. now I get full fps all the time. Actually the device throttles the cpu after some time when a resource heavy app is launched (I've done my own testing with on-screen cpu monitor app) so selecting a high performance profile disables the throttling but keep in mind, the device tends to get hotter than usual but not too much. hope this helps
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Hello guys,
First of all I have a great time playing any games so far on my 910C, even heavy ones, but Spider-man Unlimited is giving me a pretty hard time! Most of you will say the game is butter smooth, and it is on the first hour or so of gameplay. When you advance in the game a lot of explosions and stuff start to pop up and the frame rate goes down. When you fight Electro the lag is unbearable. Keep in mind that my unit is not a fake or faulty.
What I have tried so far:
Downscaling resolution with NoMone Resolution Changer.
Disabling DVFS.
Emulating different GPUs and lowering the render resolution using GLToos (graphics optimizer)
Setting the governor to performance.
Disabling activities in the background.
Different combinations of the above.
And for my surprise none of these seemed to make a huge effect.
Yet to try:
Messing with the thermal throttle (haven't seen how yet).
I obviously don't have power saving mode on and sync is off. It's clear the game is not optimized and I'm aware that some other flagships have the same issue, but I'm looking for a way to fix this as I'm really addicted to the game and the lag is killing me.
Any ideas? Thanks.
U pretty much tried what u could, so the only thing really left is to email the dev and wait for it to be optimized for our phone. At least ur not one of the many people on xda that is like, oh why does the snapdragon suck, why is this phone so slow blah blah blah. Those people really annoy me that the first thing they blame is the chip/gpu, when it's clearly the software not being optimized.
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U pretty much tried what u could, so the only thing really left is to email the dev and wait for it to be optimized for our phone. At least ur not one of the many people on xda that is like, oh why does the snapdragon suck, why is this phone so slow blah blah blah. Those people really annoy me that the first thing they blame is the chip/gpu, when it's clearly the software not being optimized.
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Sure, the optimization for this game is laughable. Btw GLTools caused me random reboots and didn't solve the problem so I uninstalled it.
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Sure, the optimization for this game is laughable. Btw GLTools caused me random reboots and didn't solve the problem so I uninstalled it.
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I use GLTools for enhancing, and don't run into problems. Like 16x anti aliasing, optimized shaders, and half float hack on my lwp+ apex+all widgets so everything looks it's best. I set it like that on games like gta as well.
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I use GLTools for enhancing, and don't run into problems. Like 16x anti aliasing, optimized shaders, and half float hack on my lwp+ apex+all widgets so everything looks it's best. I set it like that on games like gta as well.
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Nice to hear!
My freezes followed by restarts were caused by disabling dvfs (incompatibility of some apps I guess).
Maybe this game is impossible to optimize from our end, so I'll leave it as it is. But it was good to make the post for other people having similar issues with this and other games.
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The Ultimate Kernel helped a lot! Totally recommend it (intended to the C version, check the main thread for other versions)! If you crank every setting up and manage to keep the phone cold if really flies, but even just swapping the kernel improved gameplay.
Hey just wanted to know if anyone was experiencing lag in games. I turned off all game options in package disabler pro and it fixed the brightness issue but still having FPS issues. I play Order and Chaos 2 and on my Note 5 it performs beautiful, on this phone it's laggy and choppy. I can't figure out if it's a graphic issue, optimization issue, or a network issue with this phone. Please any input is greately appreciated!
Some games I play run perfectly smooth but others run choppy. Hearthstone for example. That game lags worse than it did on my GS5 and couldn't even come close to the smoothness of my 6S+. Royal Clash runs great though. Super smooth with no hangup. Asphalt 8 also runs good which is odd being how it's graphics are more intense than Hearthstone.
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Disable gameservice with debloater for example
Which version are you using? Maybe it's just optimization problem.
I'm using the snapdragon 820 version of the s7e... and maybe it is an optimization problem because idk I play the game a lot and it's aggravating me to the point I'm wondering if I should return the phone within my 14 day window... I can't see much of an increase over the Note 5 aside from the camera and the size lol
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I tried this and this fixed the brightness and color saturation issue but doesn't fix the lag problem
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Some games I play run perfectly smooth but others run choppy. Hearthstone for example. That game lags worse than it did on my GS5 and couldn't even come close to the smoothness of my 6S+. Royal Clash runs great though. Super smooth with no hangup. Asphalt 8 also runs good which is odd being how it's graphics are more intense than Hearthstone.
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So is this a problem with the game makers themselves or is it a phone problem? Or both? I'm debating on returning this phone and going back to my note 5... this phone processor is better and smoother, I love the always on display, and just everything else about it but it's not a drastic difference from the Note 5 though. Also even with the font on minimal extra tiny things still look huge on here compared to the Note lol
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So is this a problem with the game makers themselves or is it a phone problem? Or both? I'm debating on returning this phone and going back to my note 5... this phone processor is better and smoother, I love the always on display, and just everything else about it but it's not a drastic difference from the Note 5 though. Also even with the font on minimal extra tiny things still look huge on here compared to the Note lol
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I don't know who's problem it is but the more I look into it, the more I think everyone is to blame here. I believe it's a problem with Marshmallow and Samsung phones.
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I don't know who's problem it is but the more I look into it, the more I think everyone is to blame here. I believe it's a problem with Marshmallow and Samsung phones.
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My Note 5 has marshmallow on it so I don't think that is it....
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My Note 5 has marshmallow on it so I don't think that is it....
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I don't know then. All i know is over in the Hearthstone forums, everyone with Galaxy S 6's are also complaining about lag and bugs. Maybe it's a combination of Snapdraggon CPU's, Marshmallow and Samsung.
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I don't know then. All i know is over in the Hearthstone forums, everyone with Galaxy S 6's are also complaining about lag and bugs. Maybe it's a combination of Snapdraggon CPU's, Marshmallow and Samsung.
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Maybe... not sure it's just so annoying lol
The only strange I've found is Minecraft PE. It runs smoother on my 2012 Nexus 7 than on my Exynos S7 Edge. But that's clearly an optimisation problem rather than hardware being unable to manage the game, because this phone is at least five times more powerful.
I would suggest against returning your phone for this issue. It's clearly a software issue which I am sure Samsung will fix. I am having the screen dimming and choppiness with Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. I had no issues on my S6 Edge before installing Marshmallow. Now I have the same issue on the S7 edge along with the color saturation issue. Most new phones usually have at least one update that addresses the issues once it hits the mass market.
There is supposed to be a update for Hearthstone soon to fix graphical issues, which could also fix lag. In the meantime, delete the game's cache/data and give it another shot.
And as mentioned above, disabling game service by Samsung helps with lag and color issues.
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And as mentioned above, disabling game service by Samsung helps with lag and color issues.
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That only helps with the color levels, has little to no impact on games with actual performance problems on the S7.
BWolf56 said:
There is supposed to be a update for Hearthstone soon to fix graphical issues, which could also fix lag. In the meantime, delete the game's cache/data and give it another shot.
And as mentioned above, disabling game service by Samsung helps with lag and color issues.
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It didn't fix it and the game is still choppy. I ran it side by side with my iPhone 6s+ and it was no contest. It's so smooth on the 6+ my S7 looked and felt like an atari.
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It didn't fix it and the game is still choppy. I ran it side by side with my iPhone 6s+ and it was no contest. It's so smooth on the 6+ my S7 looked and felt like an atari.
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I'm not entirely sure what's causing this lag but it's definitely an isolated issue, only few people have it.
Could you give more info on your device? Also, do you have apps that run and/or monitor all the time? Some people reported random apps that they hadn't even install draining their battery and/or slowing down their phone (ei.: Pocket).
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I'm not entirely sure what's causing this lag but it's definitely an isolated issue, only few people have it.
Could you give more info on your device? Also, do you have apps that run and/or monitor all the time? Some people reported random apps that they hadn't even install draining their battery and/or slowing down their phone (ei.: Pocket).
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Some games run super smooth on the Snapdragon version and others lag like hell. Asphalt 8 and Clash Royal run extremely smooth yet Hearthstone lags like no tomorrow.
That bug applies to all 6.0.1 sammy devices. Ive seen this on note 5 and now s7edge. Guys please complain to samsung
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Some games run super smooth on the Snapdragon version and others lag like hell. Asphalt 8 and Clash Royal run extremely smooth yet Hearthstone lags like no tomorrow.
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I wonder if it has to do with the high Android System drain SD variant are getting. I doubt it's something we can fix ourselves atm thought.
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That bug applies to all 6.0.1 sammy devices. Ive seen this on note 5 and now s7edge. Guys please complain to samsung
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Not entirely true. The Exynos variant doesn't seem to have that issue. Which makes me think that it's an optimization issue.
Hi I just bought galaxy s7 edge, phone is amazing but the biggest issue is performance, most games dropping frames below 30fps even temple run 2 or candy crush soda, sky force, heartstone etc. These games where running on may galaxy s5 smooth I'm really disappointed right now and don't know what to do. Is it a hardware or software issue? Can u help me please?
temple run and candy crush works fine on my phone
ye GS7 has the worst gaming performance in flagship device for years, there is not much u can do without root, and even with root the solution is not optimal to use.
U can however disable gameservice which might help or not, u need package disable pro in order to do so if u don't have root.
You mean best gaming perform. Zero issues here
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no one of the worst, the fact that u don't have issues does not mean it's working perfect, u might not be able to see it.
Again not all games effected, mine games currently are Tekken on PPSSPP and Angry birds 2 on high levels 200+, both lags so bad it's not funny, Note 5 on 5.1.1 was light years ahead of S7.
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no one of the worst, the fact that u don't have issues does not mean it's working perfect, u might not be able to see it.
Again not all games effected, mine games currently are Tekken on PPSSPP and Angry birds 2 on high levels 200+, both lags so bad it's not funny, Note 5 on 5.1.1 was light years ahead of S7.
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Have you tried clearing your cache? I play asphalt 8 which is pretty graphic intensive and haven't had as much a a frame drop.
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Hi I just bought galaxy s7 edge, phone is amazing but the biggest issue is performance, most games dropping frames below 30fps even temple run 2 or candy crush soda, sky force, heartstone etc. These games where running on may galaxy s5 smooth I'm really disappointed right now and don't know what to do. Is it a hardware or software issue? Can u help me please?
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Snapdragon or exynos?
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Have you tried clearing your cache? I play asphalt 8 which is pretty graphic intensive and haven't had as much a a frame drop.
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i did everything, i can prove that it's the software that throttling the phone, not hardware.
If u disable DVFS via root, 85% of the lag is gone just like that.
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i did everything, i can prove that it's the software that throttling the phone, not hardware.
If u disable DVFS via root, 85% of the lag is gone just like that.
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Hi how U do that?
thank's
First u need to be rooted then install xpose, then u need the disable dvfs module, activate it restart phone, let it cool down and try your games
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First u need to be rooted then install xpose, then u need the disable dvfs module, activate it restart phone, let it cool down and try your games
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Thanks man. Just a question when u root u have to factory reset the phone?
Not at all but it will trip knox and your software warranty will wear off.
I just give up to play Need for Speed No Limits on my S7 Edge Exynos. Is just impossible to play after 5 minutes.
Just as a information I played the same game on a old Galaxy S4 Mini witch has much lower hardware specs, and no problems at all. Samsung just lie when says a S7 is a phone for games
the hardware is there, the software is limiting and yes that annoying, guys just spam their twitter account and try to go to higher ranks, if we all work together something might happen.
Make sure you don't have any accessibility services enabled. I had to have it enabled for a swipe down to open the notification drawer in my launcher, but discovered that enabling any accessibility service really slows down the entire phone.
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Hi how U do that?
thank's
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fellow these steps
works for every galaxy
90% of lag will be gone
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Make sure you don't have any accessibility services enabled. I had to have it enabled for a swipe down to open the notification drawer in my launcher, but discovered that enabling any accessibility service really slows down the entire phone.
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Disabled Nova Launcher and Geenify services on Accesibility and now tha game runs smoother, and by the way the phone feels cooler, will test more.
At some point slow down a bit but not as used to be.
thanks
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I just give up to play Need for Speed No Limits on my S7 Edge Exynos. Is just impossible to play after 5 minutes.
Just as a information I played the same game on a old Galaxy S4 Mini witch has much lower hardware specs, and no problems at all. Samsung just lie when says a S7 is a phone for games
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Look out for editing config file with json editor it works the game now look great and runs flawless...
Gray831 said:
Hi I just bought galaxy s7 edge, phone is amazing but the biggest issue is performance, most games dropping frames below 30fps even temple run 2 or candy crush soda, sky force, heartstone etc. These games where running on may galaxy s5 smooth I'm really disappointed right now and don't know what to do. Is it a hardware or software issue? Can u help me please?
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Are you still experiencing lag in games?
Do any of you face any problems when playing games? example, pokemon duel. hearthstone etc.
Is there any fix for it?
try lower screen resolution.
Factory reset and only install your game.
There should be no lag at all, unless you're on a multiplayer game with bad connection. Besides that, any game scales to your devices performance level, so unless you set the bar too high, it all should run flawless.
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i did factory reset twice and the problem still persist.
any other alternative?
The exynos s8 is not excellent at playing games.. I have two other devices at the moment, the 3T and the iPhone 7 plus, and both perform noticeably better at games such as breakneck, san andreas and real racing 3/asphalt.
Lowering the resolution to 1080p does not really eliminate the stutters, but gives a better average framerate. I'm gonna sell mine for this reason (and some others).
Exynos is actually slightly faster, but whatever.
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I had the same issue. Especially when i was playing Need for Speed No Limits. Was fix it by uninstalling everything related to Game Tools. Apparently is an old problem. I found this fix in an one year old Galaxy S7 thread.
vladimir_carlan said:
I had the same issue. Especially when i was playing Need for Speed No Limits. Was fix it by uninstalling everything related to Game Tools. Apparently is an old problem. I found this fix in an one year old Galaxy S7 thread.
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How did you fix it please what did you delete exactly cos i am having same issue ?? Plllz help
Are you using any power saving modes? Check the battery settings and make sure, since they limit the CPU speed. I noticed lag when selecting mid vs none.
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Shouldn't need to lower the resolution to play games properly with the newest CPU out right?
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Shouldn't need to lower the resolution to play games properly with the newest CPU out right?
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no ofc not, but it was just an idea i had, just to test and see... some games are just not well optimized even if fastest phone on the planet :/
Try to set performance mode : game mode.
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no ofc not, but it was just an idea i had, just to test and see... some games are just not well optimized even if fastest phone on the planet :/
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Which this isn't so I guess you might be slightly right.
Fixed lag
Had same slow issue, cleared cache and data on apps that had Game (Game boost, Google game center etc) in the name, sorted.
I've had this phone before the Oreo update. Antutu V6 showed super smooth graphics... that apparently don't translate into real-world usage.
For this example I'll talk about Real Racing 3, but it goes for any game.
On Nougat it would have this bug where it would run at about 40fps, then when I paused and resumed the race, it would be at a smooth 60fps for about 2 seconds. Thought the Oreo update would allow 60fps all the time like I know it should do.
I downloaded Real Racing 3 again after months, and now on default settings, at 1080p, I get about 15-25fps constantly. Pausing and resuming doesn't help any more.
So this game and many others that I used to love and play at a decent framerate on my previous phone, which had adreno 330 graphics, look almost unplayably horrid. Even skips frames on games like Color Switch which runs without a hitch on my brother's Moto C.
It's seriously worse than I would expect even a $200 device to be! And this phone cost $650 at release?!
Anyone else had these issues? Has anyone solved this for themselves?
Thanks.
I was having the same issue.If you have updated by OTA then flash the rom again using LGUP & do a factory reset using keys.I was getting heavy lag on MCVS,PUBG & heat issue almost same as yours.My issue is gone now.Also don't forget to turn off break time on Oreo in game center.
Look how smooth it runs now while screen recorder is on at 2k.
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asingha94 said:
I was having the same issue.If you have updated by OTA then flash the rom again using LGUP & do a factory reset using keys.I was getting heavy lag on MCVS,PUBG & heat issue almost same as yours.My issue is gone now.Also don't forget to turn off break time on Oreo in game center.
Look how smooth it runs now while screen recorder is on at 2k.
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Might try this, thanks.
What are any major places where flashing the firmware could go wrong, and does the device need to be rooted? Thanks again!
Thats why i never play mobile Crap Games on a Phone, i dont like to charge again after 2 Hours.
Buy a Computer or Playstation, this is just a much better feeling, than those mobile Crap with tons of Ads.
ric84 said:
Thats why i never play mobile Crap Games on a Phone, i dont like to charge again after 2 Hours.
Buy a Computer or Playstation, this is just a much better feeling, than those mobile Crap with tons of Ads.
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I'm a PC gamer as well. Unfortunately I can't take my rig with me to places and use it on the bus or whatever, and there are no PC versions of most of the games I play and enjoy on the phone. We don't need posts like this, thanks.
Anyway, I think it must partly be optimisation because CSR2 is running smoothly.
Edit: sometimes
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I'm a PC gamer as well. Unfortunately I can't take my rig with me to places and use it on the bus or whatever, and there are no PC versions of most of the games I play and enjoy on the phone. We don't need posts like this, thanks.
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I want to see you sitting in the Bus with your Rig and playing Battlefield with Online Connection over the LG. I think it will melt down :laugh::silly:
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I want to see you sitting in the Bus with your Rig and playing Battlefield with Online Connection over the LG. I think it will melt down :laugh::silly:
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asingha94 said:
I was having the same issue.If you have updated by OTA then flash the rom again using LGUP & do a factory reset using keys.I was getting heavy lag on MCVS,PUBG & heat issue almost same as yours.My issue is gone now.Also don't forget to turn off break time on Oreo in game center.
Look how smooth it runs now while screen recorder is on at 2k.
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Also, why should I reflash the ROM as well as factory resetting? Thanks.
Hey did you sort out this problem? i am facing the same issue here!
Anzee said:
Hey did you sort out this problem? i am facing the same issue here!
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I solved it by deleting all the games off my phone and downloading steam on my PC
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I solved it by deleting all the games off my phone and downloading steam on my PC
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Thanks would be really helpful for when I can afford a reasonable decent gaming PC!