(from OnePlus2 forum) - Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers

original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70284076&postcount=136
The G4 Play fully unlocked has been available for as low as $99 at times. I bought 2, one when it first came out for $150 to replace a 3 year old Nexus 5 for a lady who prefers smaller phones (hates OnePlus2 for size, likes OnePlusX but its discontinued) and then again when it was available for $130 (although I'd wished I'd got it for $99 oh well), which is my daily driver.
I put this SD in it , although I note that is also now higher price than I paid. I did have another SD card in but slow/unreliable, this one works very well. I don't know what is the fuss with SD cards, if you get a decent quality one it is a $$ saving and obviously you save each time you swap phones.
I have stock MM ROM on it, unlocked bootloader (its a function off Moto site) and rooted using SuperSU. I use Xposed (for Youtube Adaway and MinMinguard) and I bought a spare battery from here which worked perfectly.
With the $99 offers unlocked, the locked version from Amazon is pointless, you'd needed to have rushed for Amazon's ads version to pay same as if you waited for the discounts for unlocked.
Relative to the OnePlus2, I like its smaller size, SD card and removable battery, and very good battery life, I get roughly 2 days use from the G4 Play on what I got 1 days use on the OP2.
I recommend it, if not as daily driver, then at least a spare if you're traveling. Note: uses microSIM not nanoSIM so you'd need a "jacket" to make it bigger, I use a free T-mobile 3:1 SIM type and punched out the smallest to next smallest "jacket". The SIM slides into a slot when back panel and battery removed, its not a draw like on OP2.
G4P, will likely become better as CM14.1 gets more out of alpha into a stable beta, then I'll likely jump from stock to CM14.1. No serious rush to however as its doing just fine as-is.

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[Q] Worth returning S2X for Nexus 4?

Hey guys, glad to finally be on the forum (I've spent a loooong time reading but never posting ).
Here's my issue: Recently I bought a Galaxy S2X with Koodo on a tab plan, and so far I am loving the phone. However, recent news of the Nexus 4 has gotten my attention. Koodo has a 14-day money back guarantee on all their phones, and I bought the phone on Sunday past (the 28th) so I still have some time to return it. My question is, is the Nexus 4 a better phone? Because I can buy the S2X outright from Koodo for $300, and the Nexus is similarly priced. Is it worth returning the Galaxy, being phoneless for two weeks, and then getting the Nexus? I know nobody has had hands on experience, so it's gonna be hard to tell. I wish I could wait for some reviews to pop up about the Nexus 4, but I can't wait that long, a phone is essential (obviously).
What do you guys think?
Cheers, Tristan.
You can watch reviews of the optimus g, as they have the same screen,without the buttons, and spec sheet.
If your into androud development, have a phone to use during the 2 week wait, liker being on the latest android version, and don't like the touchwiz overlay do it because it is a beast.
If you're happy using your s2x, and like the way it is keep it, its a good phone too, and the 2 weeks without a phone would be horrible. If you want the $299 one it will have 8gb of storage, so if your used to the 16gb and expandable storage in the s2x don't.
I also own S II X from Telus myself. I am getting Nexus 4 for one of my family members to replace HD2 I guess it all depends your need and price you pay for it. No doubt Nexus 4 ' s price is very attractive. However I think S II X for 300 is also a good price.
If you do not mind the none-removable battery and no sd slot then you will love Nexus 4 no doubt. I currently have 2 spare batteries that I use in rotation for my S II X because android phones do drain quite fast and I want to save time connecting charger to my phone directly because phone has to be connected while charging. I am on the move alot. I also like having large collection of videos and music on my phone even though I can take advatange of true unlimited data plan to use cloud storage. ( I used over 10 gb last month, no throtlling and no cap).
I just gotta have battery option and sd card slot but its just me. It may not matter for you.
So I guess it's all up to your preference.
Thanks guys. I think I'll probably return the S2x and wait for the nexus, it looks snazzy and also Jelly bean looks good too.
I recently bought a HTC One X quad. am i'm returning it and waiting for the Nexus 4. I wondered why Google don't make micro sd slot and/or add 32 GB? I would certainly pay more for it.
imeem said:
I recently bought a HTC One X quad. am i'm returning it and waiting for the Nexus 4. I wondered why Google don't make micro sd slot and/or add 32 GB? I would certainly pay more for it.
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My only possible thought is maybe it was an agreement with LG. After all, the Nexus 4, for the price, is superior in many ways, so there has to be SOME incentive to get the optimus G. That's my two cents!

Would you buy a new Moto X now?

Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael
engadini said:
Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael
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my opinion is $200 is a little high, you did not mention what model, i bought a new xt1053 developers edition 32gb on ebay about 6 or 8 months ago for $199 ant its retail gsm unlocked with the ability to unlock the bootloader, we have 4 xt1058 att's here and all updated to lollipop and so far the only issues with one device is some lost contacts after the ota, not to much of a deference in battery life, there is a noticeable difference in performance due to running on art (i would say), amazon has the gsm unlocked which im sure is the xt1058 black for $115 and white for $118, just put this (Motorola Moto X - 16GB, Unlocked Phone) in amazon search bar
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.
engadini said:
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.
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sounds like you know what your doing
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sounds like you know what your doing
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I just think that the price might be okay Would you buy the device one again for this price? Or would you prefer another one?! Maybe the Moto G 3rd Gen. The price for this one is about 230€*for the 16GB model with 2 GB RAM (without MotoMaker).
Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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I would buy it, its the most powerfull and feature packed phone in this price and screen size range.
For me, the only alternative is the Samsung Galaxy Alpha.
The only thing you have to make shure is, if 16 GB storage is enough for your needs.
greetings
Let me tell you the story of Moto X 2nd Gen here in India. It's available for INR 30000 which is about 460 USD. And if you get your screen broken (which magically is turning into a very frequent phenomenon) your costs from the Moto Service Centre comes around INR 20000 which is 311 USD approx. So yeah , no one's gonna buy it in their right mind. Specs and improvements don't mean anything if the post sale services are that much of a pain.
Holding the whole Galaxy in my hand.
brother every phone has its merits and demerits, but what we want is important, like u i couldn't find a piece with this specs and the size like moto x, so think about it:good:
I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger
I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .
Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
Sent from my XT1052 using XDA Free mobile app
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i agree with you phones are just to big now, very cumbersome, the moto x 1st gen fits my hand perfect with a outterbox commuter series case, so far its my all time favorite
vonz33 said:
I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .
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I read bunch of articles stating that although Lenovo owns Motorola, it doesn't interfere with the design and engineering aspects of manufacturing the Moto devices. Theyre probably just concerned with their bottom line. I purchased my Moto X just a month ago for about 120$ new 16gigs, I was hesitant at first considering the old specs compared to what is out there but I couldn't resist the design, size and the 2years of developments to still make it run superbly.
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Amazing phone man and I have owned them all. So impressed by the speed and how fluent it is, but if I was buying one again, I would make sure it's on kit kat, so I could flash a lollipop version that didn't have the bootloader updated because lots of people with issues on lollipop.
I have no idea why you should pay twice more for Chinese quality). Buy US models, which working well in EU for $100 and be happy like me Nothing compares to the phone yet
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I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger
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You and I think alike.. Me too think only solid phone in this form factor is z3c.. But the camera review is not that great.. They just bumped the specs.. I'm having a hard time finding a great phone under 5inch size.. Any ideas? Really disappointed with OPO2! ARE THEY NOT THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL HANDS AND PREFER SMALLER DEVICES? Such a shame
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I'll be waiting for the new Moto X Pure Edition.
I have been told by Motorola support that it WILL be bootloader unlocked for Verizon.
Seems like there is no other good option Although I was playing with a samsung galaxy s6 the other day, both edge and regular.. they're actually not that bad! solid build quality and not thaat much bigger than our moto x. Just a little bigger but still not as wide as 2014 moto x or other phones. I might consider it but its soo expensive..
I have a Note 4 and would have got the Note 5 if had an sd slot, but it apparently does not. The front facing speakers, sd slot and 64GB internal storage for $500 to $550 for a Moto X Pure seems too good to pass up
The only concern but a biggy is battery life. I will buy from Best Buy and then return it if battery life is an issue. Heck, even if the Note 5 had an sd slot I would consider the Moto X Pure due to price and features
I'm getting the style also but with an SD slot, 16gb is all I need. I only use around 4gb for apps now. If battery is your thing, get the moto x with a 3600 mah battery, and 5.5 1080p. They should of made the 3600 mah standard for both.

Getting this phone for around $312. Should i go for it?

I am getting this phone for $312, the 16GB variant. Should I go for it? Any issue or anything about this phone that you guys think I should know about, before considering it finally?
ethereal_mist said:
I am getting this phone for $312, the 16GB variant. Should I go for it? Any issue or anything about this phone that you guys think I should know about, before considering it finally?
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Same question. Getting the 16 gigs model for ~$312 & 32 gigs model for ~$342 in India. Do the current owners recommend this phone now? One concern i have is the battery life, saw some tips and tricks that help, but are they really effective? (like the dpi adjustment), and how much SOT does the average user get?
Another question i have is that should i go for the 16 GB or 32 GB model? (given that Marshmallow update allows SD card to be used as internal memory, I have a 32 GB SanDisk Class 10 48 MB/s mmc).
If someone could answer these questions soon then it'll be really helpful as this offer will last only for a couple of days.
peRFect! said:
Same question. Getting the 16 gigs model for ~$312 & 32 gigs model for ~$342 in India. Do the current owners recommend this phone now? One concern i have is the battery life, saw some tips and tricks that help, but are they really effective? (like the dpi adjustment), and how much SOT does the average user get?
Another question i have is that should i go for the 16 GB or 32 GB model? (given that Marshmallow update allows SD card to be used as internal memory, I have a 32 GB SanDisk Class 10 48 MB/s mmc).
If someone could answer these questions soon then it'll be really helpful as the this offer will last only for a couple of days.
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Yeah. Also seeing all the reviews here in India, most people complaining about receiving bad units and then sending them for replacement 2-3 times. It seems as if it is luck to receive a unit that is almost without any issue. It's like playing lottery and also the Motorola Service Center here has bad reputation. It will suck to keep sending it for replacements in hopes of getting a good unit. At this price point don't have any better option either.
Hope you guys suggest something. Thanks in advance.
ethereal_mist said:
Yeah. Also seeing all the reviews here in India, most people complaining about receiving bad units and then sending them for replacement 2-3 times. It seems as if it is luck to receive a unit that is almost without any issue. It's like playing lottery and also the Motorola Service Center here has bad reputation. It will suck to keep sending it for replacements in hopes of getting a good unit. At this price point don't have any better option either.
Hope you guys suggest something. Thanks in advance.
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Yup, this faulty unit issue really scares me, also the delicate screen issue.
Having owned Samsung devices since 2012, i can safely say one thing, their devices are robust & service reliable. People might crib about the software and price but i feel i can rely on the phones.
Right now i can't shell out more than $350 and at that price point, only viable options for me are the X Style & Honor 7.
Never had any issues with my Moto X Style. Battery life is more than acceptable, and in any case, it's fully charged within an hour so its not a problem. Only downside is that development here on XDA for the device is poor when compared to the likes of a Nexus device, however, having said that, when I first got the device I immediately flashed a number of custom roms but since 6.01 stock is now available, I've gone back to that. It would be nice to have a few up to date and fully working custom kernels for the device without having to resort to downgrading modems etc... but I can live with the stock kernel.
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Never had any issues with my Moto X Style. Battery life is more than acceptable, and in any case, it's fully charged within an hour so its not a problem. Only downside is that development here on XDA for the device is poor when compared to the likes of a Nexus device, however, having said that, when I first got the device I immediately flashed a number of custom roms but since 6.01 stock is now available, I've gone back to that. It would be nice to have a few up to date and fully working custom kernels for the device without having to resort to downgrading modems etc... but I can live with the stock kernel.
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Thanks buddy.
Can you tell me about your daily usage pattern and how long one charge lasts?
Plus how's the general flow of the system? Do you face glitches, lags or stutters?
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Thanks buddy.
Can you tell me about your daily usage pattern and how long one charge lasts?
Plus how's the general flow of the system? Do you face glitches, lags or stutters?
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I'n not a heavy user. Probably make two or three phone calls daily and send half a dozen texts. I mainly use it for recording mountain biking via Strava and catching up with news via Facebook/G+/Twitter etc.... I would say that all in all my use would be around 2hrs daily tops and the battery lasts me a couple of days. As I say though, it charges that quick, battery life isn't a big issue - if I plug it in at the start of my journey to work, it's fully charged by the time I get there.
Used it during a road trip recently with navigation SW, a couple offline maps, messaging and camera/gallery all running simultaneously. Buttery smooth, no heating issues. Poor old Nexus 4 couldn't have handled that...
I got lucky and my 32 GB variant on Amazon Warehouse Deals for 265
ballisticevo said:
I got lucky and my 32 GB variant on Amazon Warehouse Deals for 265
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Very nice, I paid that much for the 16GB from Amazon. So OP, $312 isn't a great price at least in the US and expect prices to drop more once the new version is announced/released.
peRFect! said:
Another question i have is that should i go for the 16 GB or 32 GB model? (given that Marshmallow update allows SD card to be used as internal memory, I have a 32 GB SanDisk Class 10 48 MB/s mmc).
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Hi.. I just came to know abt this new feature in marshmallow by your post.. and then searched it over the internet and got to read that if we set our sd card as adopted storage, we can't access it even after connecting to the laptop?
Is it so?
Because, generally we are able to access the content of our phone memory through connecting the phone via usb cable..
techie_vintage said:
Hi.. I just came to know abt this new feature in marshmallow by your post.. and then searched it over the internet and got to read that if we set our sd card as adopted storage, we can't access it even after connecting to the laptop?
Is it so?
Because, generally we are able to access the content of our phone memory through connecting the phone via usb cable..
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Hey, what i know is that if the SD card is selected as adopted storage, it is encrypted and mounted as part of the system. We can't just pop it out and use it as a normal storage, one of my friends updated his phone to MM and when he removed his SD card after it was encrypted to use it normally, the storage got corrupted. I think that we can access the storage normally through the phone or connecting it via data cable to your PC/lappy, but I'm not really sure about it since none of my phones have MM.
Hopefully one of the members can tell us about it.
Badd_blood said:
Very nice, I paid that much for the 16GB from Amazon. So OP, $312 isn't a great price at least in the US and expect prices to drop more once the new version is announced/released.
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That make sense. Thanks a lot man.
ethereal_mist said:
That make sense. Thanks a lot man.
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Are you gonna buy one? Cos i think it's a pretty great deal in the Indian market.
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Are you gonna buy one? Cos i think it's a pretty great deal in the Indian market.
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My usage is just browsing and some social media apps. I won't be gaming on phone. So for those purposes I am wondering which one to buy out of Moto G4 Plus(3GB RAM Variant) and Moto X Style.
What I am really wondering is if spending extra $90 for Moto X Style worth it?
Saw a lot of people complaining about heating issue on Moto G4 Plus.
Also, the prices are gonna drop more when they actually announce this year's X or Z series, whatever they are calling it.
I need to make a decision in a week if I am gonna buy it right now.
I tried using sd card as internal storage on MM and I didn't like it because whenever I plugged my phone to the computer, computer won't show the adopted sd card as internal storage. It only shows the real internel storage that is 16GB I have on my phone right now and not the 32GB Class 10 Card. I am okay with using it as external storage though.
When are you buying X style?
ethereal_mist said:
My usage is just browsing and some social media apps. I won't be gaming on phone. So for those purposes I am wondering which one to buy out of Moto G4 Plus(3GB RAM Variant) and Moto X Style.
What I am really wondering is if spending extra $90 for Moto X Style worth it?
Saw a lot of people complaining about heating issue on Moto G4 Plus.
Also, the prices are gonna drop more when they actually announce this year's X or Z series, whatever they are calling it.
I need to make a decision in a week if I am gonna buy it right now.
I tried using sd card as internal storage on MM and I didn't like it because whenever I plugged my phone to the computer, computer won't show the adopted sd card as internal storage. It only shows the real internel storage that is 16GB I have on my phone right now and not the 32GB Class 10 Card. I am okay with using it as external storage though.
When are you buying X style?
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I don't need to buy a phone immediately, but considering the offers and the 10% discount for Citibank card holders, I'm tempted.
I want to exchange my Note 3 Neo (getting old) and all in all I'm getting a pretty good deal (~14.5K). If only they had an exchange program in Amazon, the list of options would've grown considerably.
Even my usage doesn't include gaming, but i do a lot of other things regurlarly, my problem is that lags & jitters bother me so I'm not inclined towards buying SD 615/616 phones (plus they are heaters, i own a Mi4i). Considering that the X Style is a good bet for me, only problem is the battery life, i get 5+ hrs SOT on both my phones (the Neo used to give 7+ hrs during the 1st year).
I'm really in a fix cos i have money to either buy a new phone or get my Mac upgraded (SSD & RAM for 2012 model).
I am not really happy with the battery life. I usually use it from 8:30 am to 22:30 pm, wifi/data on all the time, connected to a smart watch. At the end of the day there is usually 30% to 15% battery left with between 2h30 to 3h00 SOT, brightness quite high. If I use it a lot during the first half of the day I know I will need to recharge if I go out in the evening (but anyway in this case I swap phones).
But all the rest I am very happy with: I love the screen, amazing speakers and I am really enjoying the lag free android stock experience. It does not get hot if I don't play. Pictures and videos are awesome when it is sunny, but it is difficult to have non-blurry pictures in low light. Selfies are great as well.
One thing that pisses me off though: there is no way to use a tempered glass protection because the phone's glass starts to curve before the edge of the screen. So I am stuck with a plastic screen protection that has a hallow anyway. 2.5D screens are already stupid on their own but it is criminal to do it this way.
Badd_blood said:
Very nice, I paid that much for the 16GB from Amazon. So OP, $312 isn't a great price at least in the US and expect prices to drop more once the new version is announced/released.
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Even now they are under $300 on amazon for a 32gb and $254 for a 16gb
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?n=10158976011&k=moto+x+pure
I'm thinking of getting this phone for Christmas. I currently own a moto x 1st gen. What do you guys think?
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Soulj4h said:
I'm thinking of getting this phone for Christmas. I currently own a moto x 1st gen. What do you guys think?
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If you are wanting new it might be a good idea not to wait to long. In terms of specs, you will definitely see a noticeable difference. Only you can determine if this is right for you.
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IF you had the chance to switch to a different phone, which one would you choose?

My phone got wet and because of that, a half inch strip of the digitizer went bad. Squaretrade is reimbursing me for the buying price of the phone. I don't know if I should get the same phone, a Nexus 6P, or something else. All carrier unlock is important to me because I plan to switch from AT&T to Verizon. Expandable storage is pretty great but, I guess that can be accomplished with OTG. I really love the phone but isn't there something better available now with more features (IR remote, FM radio, screen projector) that's all carrier ready at around the same price?
The Verizon compatibility is the sticking point. I think the One Plus would be where I would go if I wasn't on Verizon.
I believe Team Firewater is about to release an unlock for the HTC 10. I would probably go back to HTC if I was going to switch. LG G5 is another possibility but my sons g3 just developed a sim card reading problem so I don't know how reliable they are. I also am not sure how developer friendly these phones are.
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Axon 7 or Nexus 6P
I would get a temporary phone for a few weeks and then get a new Nexus. Probably sailfish (5" screen). They will be faster and better on battery.
If you're intent on getting one now, get a nexus 5X or 6P. They're going for pretty cheap right now actually.
Since AT&T -AND- Verizon and a similar price point are all requirements, your choices are pretty limited... Here would be my choices
1) Axon 7 - this is actually a really nice phone for the money, and Verizon support has been confirmed
2) Nexus 5x or 6P - The 5x has been floating around $250 for the 32GB model and the 6p around $430, so assuming your budget is $350, this is a tough one for the budget requirement
3) Moto G4 - Seriously... for $300 bucks you get 64GB storage, 4GB RAM, and an octo-core processor. Compatibility with all major US carriers
3) Moto X Pure Edition - Honestly, this is still a really good phone for the money
I ended up ordering another Moto X Pure 64GB. I thank you all for your input. I seriously considered the Nexus 6P and decided that I love my 128GB SD card too much and getting the 128GB Nexus would cost $150 more plus need to remember to keep an OTG with me at all times. Plus, I really like the phone. The Moto Z Force looks like the phone I'll want to sink some dough into later on. That with the projector option looks pretty incredible. But, it's not an all carrier phone either. Anyway, I get my new Moto X Pure this coming Wednesday from Amazon Prime for $100 less than Squaretrade paid me out. No complaints.
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I ended up ordering another Moto X Pure 64GB. I thank you all for your input. I seriously considered the Nexus 6P and decided that I love my 128GB SD card too much and getting the 128GB Nexus would cost $150 more plus need to remember to keep an OTG with me at all times. Plus, I really like the phone. The Moto Z Force looks like the phone I'll want to sink some dough into later on. That with the projector option looks pretty incredible. But, it's not an all carrier phone either. Anyway, I get my new Moto X Pure this coming Wednesday from Amazon Prime for $100 less than Squaretrade paid me out. No complaints.
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I think you made a good choice. My only lament about the MXPE is that it doesn't have a big battery like the Moto Turbo 2 or Maxx 2. I LOVE the big screen, I use the storage on my 64GB micro SD card constantly and the design and speed and controls locations are all perfect for me. Now, if either the Turbo 2 or Maxx 2 had unlockable bootloaders I'd give them a hard look but that seems unlikely from what I've read.

Question about pricing when liquidation happen for a nexus device (6P)

So, i am from Canada and never really owned a smartphone with a phone line. I was planning to get a T-Mobile LG G4 broken box 9/10 condition on ebay for $180 USD, i would then get an unlock code on ebay for less than $5 USD and finally get a tablet plan for my LG G4 on fido ($15-20 CAD) for 1gb and get voip.ms for the phone line and sms.
I looked on the LG G4 forum and it seem it's getting way longer to get aosp build (comparing with my other device). Since the pixel phone's getting sooner to reveil and launch, i wanted to know when are you thinking the deal on playstore will happen and how much cheaper will they be compared to previews Nexus liquidation. I don't mind waiting until blackfriday, boxing day or even until Valentine day. It's mostly because i don't wanna answer my home phone anymore for nigerian hoax and using the new unused regional code would allow me to get the same number without getting ad and hoaxter. Do you think the 64gb would be under $300 and 128gb under $400 when it happen ? Would it still be a worthful phone to mod later ?
I was also looking for the oneplus 3 since the fingerprint's on the front and i love capacitive button and the silent switch look a good idea.
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