This may seem kinda stupid but would it be possible for me to replace the imx298 main camera and replace it with a pixel imx 398 or an s7 camera?
A) You could have to make sure it fits in the same space.
B) Makes sure it has the same connections.
C) You'll have to rewrite your phone's software to get info on and off the camera AND how to interpret that data once it is off and apply the appropriate tweaks.
Overall, you'd be better off just buying something with that module in there if it's that important to you.
Why are people being such asses? Lol if you're not going to give a productive answer then shut up.
I found a thread from 2013 which basically says no it's impossible without re-writing the kernel, BUT it was possible with the xperia neo where sony released the same phone with two different camera modules. Although it's unlikely with the v20.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180366
If there were a way to make this crappy, over-sharpening, oil-painting looking camera, any better I certainly would like to know about it too.
ronattack said:
If there were a way to make this crappy, over-sharpening, oil-painting looking camera, any better I certainly would like to know about it too.
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I had a huge noise reduction issue when I first bought my T-Mobile V20. Full bright shots with trees would have so much noise reduction applied, the trees looked exactly like oil paintings.
I called T-Mobile and got it replaced, and the new phone still does the noise reduction, but it's way better (less than half the amount). You might want to try that if you can. The V20 seems to be a bit inconsistent...
ronattack said:
Why are people being such asses? Lol if you're not going to give a productive answer then shut up.
I found a thread from 2013 which basically says no it's impossible without re-writing the kernel, BUT it was possible with the xperia neo where sony released the same phone with two different camera modules. Although it's unlikely with the v20.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180366
If there were a way to make this crappy, over-sharpening, oil-painting looking camera, any better I certainly would like to know about it too.
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You may want just to use Snap Camera HDR, or Google cam Mod or Hedge Camera or ProShot with NR set to minimal and 95%jpeg compression. Or you may even try stock camera libraries mod from XDA but root needed
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I would like to start a project to make a better camera app.
In other posts there are people talking about the bad quality of the chip or the lens.
I think they are right about that, but I think the program itself could be better.
I think there is a lot of compression made in the program.
Now I'm not a programmer so that is my problem.
What I am interested about is to get a picture right from the chip. Without any compression and without any contrast, sharpness and brightness adjustment. Then we really know how bad the chip and lens are. After that we can try to adjust some things and look at compression.
Is there anybody crazy enough to create anything like this?
If it works we might be able to get real photos out of our Wizard
Feel free to react or correct me if I'm wrong
I really wouldn't put any effort into a handset-camera... they generally still suck (mostly). you can't get any quality when the source is bad... And the compression itself won't change too much here (I've ripped the cam out of my wizard, if you see that 8x8mm thing you *know* that can't be any good )
If you would rip the chip out of the new sony cydershop it wil also be a tiny 8X8mm chip.
It stil is a 1.3 Mpixel chip. I think the lens is our biggest problem.
making a nice contrastcurve could help a lot
yep, the lenseis one of the biggest problems... I should have mentioned, that the 8x8mm thing was the *complete* camera module, including lense of course the CCD in a "normal" digital camera isn't big either, but at least there's appropriate surroundings... but probably some work on the camera software could better the results...
You can get add on lenses not sure how good they are from the link below
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/MobileLensCombo2.php
or
http://modtown.co.uk/mt/review2.php?id=amacroxlens
if you try them let us know how they work
Rob
Im abel to get my hands on an Iphone 4s Camera If I install it on my Incredible (Nils GingerSense 2.2) How hard would you expect it to be to install th driver, If needed?
Djay1809 said:
Im abel to get my hands on an Iphone 4s Camera If I install it on my Incredible (Nils GingerSense 2.2) How hard would you expect it to be to install th driver, If needed?
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You need to provide more information. Have you checked out the connections? do you have a physical connector? Do you have the pinouts or datasheet? I'd expect it to be a difficult task. Even among similar devices the pinouts and connector types change. After establishing the physical connection, you have to work out the communications.
How do I get the data sheet, I Loove the fact that I have a 8 MP Cam but The I phone has a 5 PM thats sarper than mines, Just imagin the 4s Cam. I know how to tak my phone apart if that helps, but Im not sure what other info I need.
5mp being sharper than 8mp does not seem to make sense. have you tried cleaning your camera and/or maybe refocusing it? there is a manual focus adjustment on the camera which is set by the factory. Maybe it is set wrong. Also, there can be buildup on the lens on the inside of the case which is causing blured images.
I doubt replacing a camera with a lower megapixel camera would fix anything. It would actually be more of a hassel than it is worth... locating pinouts, drafting a new connector, manufacturing a new connector, locating or writing new drivers.... these are all required for you to go from the 8mp camera to the 5mp camera. even still, you'd have a lower quality camera.
You really want to look at cleaning or refocusing via the manual camera adjustment on the camera dongle inside the device.
those tips are great tips, and should be followed before any kind of extreme camera swaps.
But with that said, I could see situations where the iphone 4s' camera could be better than an 8mp one. Although more pixels are used to create an image in an 8mp camera, the method of creating the image itself is entirely different. The iphone has a very unique type of setup, especially with the backlit sensor. The difference is especially noticeable in lower light situations. A typical 8mp setup will show more "blue haze" than an iphone 4s, and may be blurry only because the device may "record" more frames knowing there is less than ideal lighting, which allows more room for error for the human taking the photo because they might not hold the device perfectly still for this long. The sensor in the iphone 4s reduces the haze and allows the camera to take a faster photo in darker situations, avoiding potential camera shake. I personally would love to take the iphone 4s's sensor, and put it in the Galaxy Nexus Prime, but actually getting that to work would require a team of developers experienced in the hardware utilized in both devices.
That's what I was talking about. The IPhone 4s camera, but in any case I'm not a developer just good enough to hack and regonize really good hardware. But in this case I'm starting to question if this is more a hardware or software issue.
Just Incredible, GingerSense 2.2
It's possible that iPhone camera does better pictures, it can be just manufactured of better materials.
Anyway, such replacement is impossible for single man without advanced stuff and deep knowledge about drivers. It isn't a notebook where construction is somewhat standarized and you can just replace LCD screen with one from another model of another producer and it's big probability that it will work, as an example. Every phone manufacturer does create its own unique connectors and it just won't fit to another stuff.
Hello my friend. I have a problem, May you help me, please.
I have a Galaxy S2 i9100 Mobile. Some days ago, I tried to update my mobile's driver with Samsung App. After installing its driver, I found that I must use of Main memory for updating. Now the camera doesn't work, and whenever I click on camera icon, the camera application open but the screen is completely black, and after some seconds this message is displayed on the screen:
"Sorry
The application camera (processcom.sec.android.app.camera) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again"
I try all ROMS and RESETS but still it doesn't work.
Thanks for your guiding.
Did you try uninstaling the app and power cycling the phone?
Just Plain Incredible GingerSense 2.2
you really can change the camera to a phone??
the type of galaxy ace put a bigger mp??
you really can change the camera to a phone??<br />
the type of galaxy ace put a bigger mp??
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Yeh, but it requires very much job.
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bottom line :
Replacing camera module, possible but not worth it. takes a lot of trial and error so why not just buy a new phone?
5mp sharper than 8mp, possible. a good picture does not rely on megapixels. that's what manufacturers want you to think. The optics are a much important thing.
The carmera is already working well itself, and it does not has any driver to upgrade
camera wja soa ooa
I find the camera on the Nexus4 somewhat lacking.
GSMarena just reviewed it and came to the same conclusion.
gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p9.php
By looking at their Compare Tool it seems that LG phones have consistently bad cameras.
1) Is the comparatively high noise in Nexus4 pictures most likely due to limitations in the camera hardware
or is it the result of bad software calibration that can be re-adjusted?
2) I'd like more control over the camera like manual ISO and shutter speed settings.
Is there a custom ROM or 3rd party app that can expose these to the user?
EDIT:
The camera module on the Nexus 4 is "Exmor R" IMX111PQ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850&page=25
The LG Optimus 4X HD shares the same hardware camera module.
When comparing the 2 phones with the GSMarena's Photo Compare Tool it looks
like the LG Optimus 4X performs better noise-wise but has color balance problems (too much red).
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=2&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
Although the Nexus 4's camera is not as good as that of the Samsung Galaxy S3
it seems as though it could be calibrated to perform a bit better than it does at the moment.
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
Should have done your homework first
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
The funny thing about you guys making fun of him, is that you don't exactly know what you're talking about either.
Back when the Evo 3D got upgraded to ICS, the Virgin Mobile version of the Evo 3D got significant camera improvements, and the Evo 3D (Sprint and GSM [international]) were left hanging with a camera that was essentially the same as the one that they had back with Gingerbread.
Here's a link to it, if you'd like to see. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717113&highlight=vm+camera
So to answer your question, yes. Software can be used to enhance the camera. If I were you I'd look in the direction of Sony's mods (Photo editor and related) and check that out. I know that there is a ROM that currently uses this.
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
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If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s, its just a matter of time till someone figures out what lg did wrong with the drivers
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
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Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s,
its just a matter of time till someone figures out what did wrong with the drivers
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Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
The camera drivers have a great influence over the final picture. If we have the source code to the drivers
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
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I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
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I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question. I also bought this phone knowing that the camera wasn't its best feature, but I'm also curious if there is a way to improve the software/drivers to improve it. There have been several examples on XDA where this has happened. If you're going to be an Internet tough guy and only offer useless posts then don't post, you not only waste your time but the OPs too.
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I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question.
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I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% (edit: 25%) smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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Thanks, KyraOfFire!
I spent a lot of time thinking how to phrase my question without inviting the trolls. :silly:
GSMarena did scientific benchmarks, their review states the facts, not an opinion.
Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
AnandTech claims the LG Optimus 4X HD has that camera module.
Using the GSMarena's Image Compare Tool I can see that the LG Optimus 4X has much better
noise performance than the Nexus 4. The colors on the LG 4X are a bit off though.
If both phones share the same camera hardware it seems that the Nexus4 noise issue could indeed
be caused by a bad software calibration.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
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Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
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Hi Mindroid, I am glad I could help.
Nexus 4 detailed technical breakdown can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850
It is claimed that the module number is from the kernel source code
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33645116&highlight=camera#post33645116
Edit: I looked at the photos.
Nexus 4 is clearly more noisy than Optimus 4X HD, but it is also somewhat sharper.
Assuming the information is correct and the two phones share the same camera chip, the software can definitely be tuned.
asasione said:
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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yyz71 said:
Should have done your homework first
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spitefulcheerio said:
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
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If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
- Jim
macr0t0r said:
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
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Great thread indeed. If I have time (probably next week), I'll get a camera app that can enable those settings (hint:stock camera app doesn't have those settings) and do some science
I tried the lgCamera app from the Play Store which is supposed to allow more settings like ISO.
I don't think it's working, the pictures look very similar on all ISO settings. It's impossible to tell
for sure because the picture headers don't have the ISO information.
My old Chinese phone has an Engineering Menu that exposes some of the hardware parameters.
Is there anything similar in Jelly Bean?
You could try Camera FV-5 from the play store. I've used it on my One S and it offers a lot of manual controls. My N4 arrives tomorrow so can't tell you how it works, yet, for this phone.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
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Agreed, the man asked if the camera can be improved. Don't freaking defend the crappy camera. This is xda. This is where we mod **** till it freaking explodes. Not whine and defend stuff.
Forget picture quality what about sound ! Its terrible on recordings. Background noise sounds garbled. In fact its a chorus for flanger type effect which could be down to the stereo mics?
Its so strange that Motorola limited the camera in such an obvious way. They'd have even better Moto G sales if they simply fixed these things.
The Nexus 5 was successfully modded by XDA to improve the camera. Do you think the same will happen to the Moto G?
Didnt the Nexus 5 get a camera update that improved it just a few weeks back?
I really dont think theres much we can do it tbh, sure its all hard coded and is partly due to the sensor also.
It may not be Motrola not limiting it, it could be significantly worse without the processing, would be nice be able to remove and see but Im not holding my breath too much
Maybe when Google release their Raw API quality may increase
Or Im just talking nonsense If so ignore me
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I really dont think theres much we can do it tbh, sure its all hard coded and is partly due to the sensor also.
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You can't hardcode software processing into a camera. The loss of detail is clearly caused by a noise reduction algorithm and compression done after the picture is taken. It looks similar to what the Moto X was doing before it got an update.
if Motorola took these things off, which shouldn't be that hard for them to do, we'd have a decent camera to work with.
Also, the 720p capture seems to be limited to 10 Mb/s bitrate for no reason except maybe to try and save battery life. I'm sure the Snapdragon 400 is capable of at least double the bitrate so its either up to Motorola to increase that or for somebody like Faux to figure out how to increase it.
TBH i never bothered much for the camera on a mobile ... but wouldnt mind either if you guys do a better version of this **** default camera software they have put in it :silly:
I think it would be working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
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You can't hardcode software processing into a camera. The loss of detail is clearly caused by a noise reduction algorithm and compression done after the picture is taken. It looks similar to what the Moto X was doing before it got an update.
if Motorola took these things off, which shouldn't be that hard for them to do, we'd have a decent camera to work with.
Also, the 720p capture seems to be limited to 10 Mb/s bitrate for no reason except maybe to try and save battery life. I'm sure the Snapdragon 400 is capable of at least double the bitrate so its either up to Motorola to increase that or for somebody like Faux to figure out how to increase it.
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I dunno...
I dont see Moto doing anything about the noise reduction which you say is causing loss of detail, surely they would've learn't from the moto X.
I think If it is causing the loss of detail, Moto believe its of an acceptable level, as the trade off would be very noisy photos(Which reviewers and consumers would've trashedl).
Personally I just think its something we'll have to deal with and dont believe Moto will be adjusting anytime soon.
But hey i'll welcome any camera mods that make a difference.
I think they will have to fix it because it looks pretty easy to fix and would make the phone an easier sell. Why keep a phone as one with a bad camera when you can make it a fine camera with some tweaks?
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I think they will have to fix it because it looks pretty easy to fix and would make the phone an easier sell. Why keep a phone as one with a bad camera when you can make it a fine camera with some tweaks?
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They dont really 'have to" fix it
I dont believe they will simply because I think Motorola believe they have the right balance in their eyes, in terms of noise reduction and decent shots, especially after the whole Moto X camera debate.
We'll have to wait and see im just not holding my breath.
Maybe If there was enough outcry? They may look into it
Hopefully Moto improve the camera though via updates, i'll welcome it
Moto G photos with more detail etc, would be fantastic
Heck even If we were able to manually change the way photos are processed etc would be great
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They dont really 'have to" fix it
I dont believe they will simply because I think Motorola believe they have the right balance in their eyes, in terms of noise reduction and decent shots, especially after the whole Moto X camera debate.
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They'd have to be blind to think that. It's clearly a camera that has been overblown. Focus is a major issue.
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They'd have to be blind to think that. It's clearly a camera that has been overblown. Focus is a major issue.
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Well hopefully somebody or moto does.
But If it is post processing with the software, why do other camera apps produce pretty much the same results? As you say its not hard coded.
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Well hopefully somebody or moto does.
But If it is post processing with the software, why do other camera apps produce pretty much the same results? As you say its not hard coded.
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It's using the same camera firmware no matter what app you use. They need to update the firmware.
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It's using the same camera firmware no matter what app you use. They need to update the firmware.
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Alright.
We'll have to wait and see if moto do anything.
I am due an upgrade and currently being pushed a S7 by my service provider. But i decided too take a look at the G5.
Its a nice looking phone, fits nicely in your hand as its slightly narrower than the G4.
I have some reservations about the module release button? but only time will tell? The software has more of an iclone feel now? But the camera functionality is what i was most interested in. Looking at what i have seen i would say that LG have dropped the ball on this? Sure theres a little tweek on the main 16mp camera but the option to have dual lense you think they would have come up with something far better than what they are about to deliver.
Sticking one image inside another is nothing new,, they should have delivered a software package to accompany the new camera system that would have made the user more interested in using both lenses.
Once the handset in delivered to me i will post some more, but the bottom line is the modular system might be the only real reason to switch from a G4 to G5.
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I am due an upgrade and currently being pushed a S7 by my service provider. But i decided too take a look at the G5.
Its a nice looking phone, fits nicely in your hand as its slightly narrower than the G4.
I have some reservations about the module release button? but only time will tell? The software has more of an iclone feel now? But the camera functionality is what i was most interested in. Looking at what i have seen i would say that LG have dropped the ball on this? Sure theres a little tweek on the main 16mp camera but the option to have dual lense you think they would have come up with something far better than what they are about to deliver.
Sticking one image inside another is nothing new,, they should have delivered a software package to accompany the new camera system that would have made the user more interested in using both lenses.
Once the handset in delivered to me i will post some more, but the bottom line is the modular system might be the only real reason to switch from a G4 to G5.
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'Sticking one image inside Another is nothing new' - I'm pretty sure you've missed the point in the dual camera setup. Sure the photo in a photo is a gimmick and 99% of people will never use it. But what about the wide camera lense? You haven't even mentioned that, and that is one of the most important things you could have mentioned.
What sort of software package are you alluding to? You've essentially got the option of using a great 16mpx camera, which will be absolutely amazing if my lg g4 in manual/raw is anything to go by. And in addition you have a super wide angled lense for taking in sweeping vistas.
The only reason someone would upgrade from an s6 to an s7 is incremental hardware updates. So I don't really get your 'bottom line' bit.. The lg g5 has hardware updates like the s7, and an even more unique and innovative design, so actually you have more reason to upgrade.
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'Sticking one image inside Another is nothing new' - I'm pretty sure you've missed the point in the dual camera setup. Sure the photo in a photo is a gimmick and 99% of people will never use it. But what about the wide camera lense? You haven't even mentioned that, and that is one of the most important things you could have mentioned.
What sort of software package are you alluding to? You've essentially got the option of using a great 16mpx camera, which will be absolutely amazing if my lg g4 in manual/raw is anything to go by. And in addition you have a super wide angled lense for taking in sweeping vistas.
The only reason someone would upgrade from an s6 to an s7 is incremental hardware updates. So I don't really get your 'bottom line' bit.. The lg g5 has hardware updates like the s7, and an even more unique and innovative design, so actually you have more reason to upgrade.
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I'm currently in possession of a G4, I've had a chance to do side by side compare.
What about the amazing software? Well you have a 16mp camera which in my opinion is the same as the G4 just software / processing seems tweaked a little? Its really nice but nothing you will be surprised at if your using a G4. The wide angle lenses you talk about mate is a bit of a letdown, it's true does have a massive angle on it but 8mp is more than able to handle shots with good detail.......................................if it had a bloody bigger sensor!
Theres a lot of noise in the photos and I'm hoping with an update that will be addressed? But I like photos with out the green and red salt and pepper dustings.
So what they could have given us was a smart blur option on backgrounds like the what HTC done with the M8 series and bokeh effects?
That would have been a nice upgrade on the photography from the G4!
How about a native filters and editing tool? Sure there's plenty of third party apps out there, but how about we have an option to shot live with filters rather than post edit?
So no I don't think I missed the point of a dual camera feature? I think LG are the ones who missed it by delivering what looks like good hardware with bare minimum effort on software to showcase the hardware.
I ain't asking for bells or whistles but they have launched a phone that's show case features are modular customization and a DUAL LENSE CAMERA, so why have We not had a bigger bundle installed on the software to help support this?
I do have to say the picture in picture is more of a gimmick. I was they would have brought manual video mode
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MadMax said:
I do have to say the picture in picture is more of a gimmick. I was they would have brought manual video mode
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Realistically who's going to use it?
As I stated already improving what they are offering by things just like you mention would have a far bigger appeal to people who are buying the phone for its features.