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I've recently been having problems with some of my text messages not making it to my phone. Some get through, some don't. I spent nearly 40 minutes the other day with "tech support" (30 of them spent talking to an Android 'specialist'). In the end, I was told that they didn't know why some were getting through and some weren't. They pointed the finger at my friends who are texting saying the problem might be on their end (my gf is on T-Mo as well and we skyped so she could show me the 'sent successful' msgs on her BB 9700). The real kicker was when the specialist told me that I should delete my texts every day because "Android devices can't really handle holding more than 40-50 msgs at a time before it causes problems for the handset and the software." SMH.
Anyway, I've been playing around with a friend's Evo lately and I really like it. It's got me thinking of a possible switch to Sprint if this text issue keeps popping up and T-Mo keeps giving me BS answers.
I guess I just want to ask:
1. Any recent converts from T-Mo? How do you like Sprint so far?
2. Any experience issues similar to the one I'm having?
3. Any issues at all with the Evo or service in the LA area?
My friend said he's been with Sprint for about 10 years now, and I asked how customer service was. He said "I don't know, I've never really needed to talk to them." Seemed like a good sign to me.
Thanks XDA Evo heads!
I was on tmo before I switched to Sprint when I started working for them. Honestly on not working at sprint anymore and I'm still on it and got my fiance on it and we have a joint account. Sprint is amazing and I love it and I would never look back. Plus you could probably get a discount from where you work which helps. Customer service isn't bad if you have to call them. I've called them and if they can't help tu they usually offer some kinda something to take away the blow.
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i was in the same boat... i forced tmo to let me out of my contract b,c of similar problems, including weak signal strength and dropped calls....
I am having better signal strength and less dropped calls/ unreceived messages but not as good as I was expecting...
The biggest difference I noticed is that Tmobile customer support is miles beyond Sprints.
Sprint has the worst customer service that I have seen in a while.
The reps are dumb, disrespectful, dumb, don't care....dumb....
Not exactly what you asked for but I switched from AT&T to Sprint about 2 months ago for the Evo. I love the Evo..... but Sprint sucks ass. At least here in Central Florida, Sprint is the worst service you can have (AT&T is the best) I sometimes get calls and text 3 or 4 days late. I'm in the process of deciding if my Evo is good enough to stick it out or if switching back to AT&T is worth paying the higher prices.
Give it a try. You can cancel within 30 days for a full refund of both equipment and service costs. There is no risk whatsoever.
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I sent my wife a few texts 2 weeks ago that never made it.
I on the other hand have had no problems worth sprint's service.
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daewond3r said:
I've recently been having problems with some of my text messages not making it to my phone. Some get through, some don't. I spent nearly 40 minutes the other day with "tech support" (30 of them spent talking to an Android 'specialist'). In the end, I was told that they didn't know why some were getting through and some weren't. They pointed the finger at my friends who are texting saying the problem might be on their end (my gf is on T-Mo as well and we skyped so she could show me the 'sent successful' msgs on her BB 9700). The real kicker was when the specialist told me that I should delete my texts every day because "Android devices can't really handle holding more than 40-50 msgs at a time before it causes problems for the handset and the software." SMH.
Anyway, I've been playing around with a friend's Evo lately and I really like it. It's got me thinking of a possible switch to Sprint if this text issue keeps popping up and T-Mo keeps giving me BS answers.
I guess I just want to ask:
1. Any recent converts from T-Mo? How do you like Sprint so far?
2. Any experience issues similar to the one I'm having?
3. Any issues at all with the Evo or service in the LA area?
My friend said he's been with Sprint for about 10 years now, and I asked how customer service was. He said "I don't know, I've never really needed to talk to them." Seemed like a good sign to me.
Thanks XDA Evo heads!
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Best move I have made. Tmo did good bringing android but everyone else is blowing them away with phones and plans.
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I recall an issue similar to this on the hero.
Yes its true on some of the older Android OS there was some issues with alot of txt msgs my hero practically shut down when i hit 2000 txt msgs it wouldnt load them or receive any txt msgs.
as I recall just randomly not receiving them tho etc was resolved with a hard reset of the device.
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Not exactly what you asked for but I switched from AT&T to Sprint about 2 months ago for the Evo. I love the Evo..... but Sprint sucks ass. At least here in Central Florida, Sprint is the worst service you can have (AT&T is the best) I sometimes get calls and text 3 or 4 days late. I'm in the process of deciding if my Evo is good enough to stick it out or if switching back to AT&T is worth paying the higher prices.
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Weird, I switched from ATT and I had the problems u are describing, however the problems were w ATT, maybe it was the iPhone but service sucked, dropped calls, slow 3G speeds, customer service wqs bad, etc. I'm in central FL btw. As far as Tmo I got to admit they got pretty good customer service, can't really complain about sprints either. Service has been great as well, no dropped calls in 2+ months and great 3G/4G speeds. If pricing is a factor, Sprint has it covered. Check coverage in your area and see if you got good coverage, other than that o don't see why you couldn't switch and be happy w Sprint.
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sdrewh said:
Best move I have made. Tmo did good bringing android but everyone else is blowing them away with phones and plans.
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I agree here. However, what an above poster said. T-mo has better customer support. I was with T-mo for almost 10 years and recently switched over when the EVO came out because T-mo couldn't tell me when their next Android Device was coming out, and the only rumors were of the GPS phone which looked attrocious. The Nexus was available, but only for new plan holders and the price was rediculous, not to mention it was already getting long in the tooth. I love the EVO, and 6Mbps down on my 4G is great (when I get a strong 4G signal). I am not impressed with 3g as I never seem to get over 600kbps and I do not like the fact that I can't use Data and Phone at the same time on just 3g.
Otherwise, Sprint's plan is better despite the infamous "$10" fee, unless you primarily make phone calls to land lines. I got a bonus 450 min. on top of the 450 min. with the unlimited plan for land line calls and I rarely use 100 min. Otherwise they really are unlimited in the Data side.
I hope this helps in your decision. Good luck.
I've gone through most every cell provider in my state. T-Mobile, ATT, Cingular (basically same thing) Virgin, verizon, Cricket.
Cingular was by far the worst. Tons of missing.txts and dropped calls.
Then went to Tmobile. Loved Tmobile. Not a huge calling area at the time. But still great service.
Then to ATT for the iPhone. Loved iphone. Still didn't like att. Than I came to sprint foe the EVO. and so far its pretty good. Pricing is nice, even with the 10 extra for 4G.
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
I went from T-Mo to Sprint about two months ago, it was a great move. Better prices, able to do things in the shop. T-Mo forced my hand because they would not let me back into a contract and would not work with me on phones. I was very disappointed with T-Mo and how they handled me, especially because I had been with them for seven years. I have the Evo now.
If you are coming to sprint make sure you look into getting the Everything Plus plans to save some money.
Instead of the regular Everything 450 for 69, you can get Everything with 500mins for 59.
as dissapointed as i'v been with sprint, they do have unlimited mobile to mobile....
Thats pretty epic i suppose
Why does anyone use T-Mo on the first place (outside of Europe, that is)? Their 3G coverage is an absolute joke. It makes AT&T's coverage look fantastic!
Been with Sprint for 11 years, in 3 different states, any issue, that I can count on one hand, have been resolved over the phone.
You have 30 days to try it risk free, what's not to like ?
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Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond!
I think I will try it out for a month and see how it is.
Weird, I switched from ATT and I had the problems u are describing, however the problems were w ATT, maybe it was the iPhone but service sucked, dropped calls, slow 3G speeds, customer service wqs bad, etc. I'm in central FL btw. As far as Tmo I got to admit they got pretty good customer service, can't really complain about sprints either. Service has been great as well, no dropped calls in 2+ months and great 3G/4G speeds. If pricing is a factor, Sprint has it covered. Check coverage in your area and see if you got good coverage, other than that o don't see why you couldn't switch and be happy w Sprint.
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Hmmm. I had an iPhone too (1st Gen and 3Gs) and never once dropped a call, my 3G speeds were always fast and customer service was always great to me (but I always went to the store I never called tech support and the people at my store are really friendly and polite).
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I agree here. However, what an above poster said. T-mo has better customer support. I was with T-mo for almost 10 years and recently switched over when the EVO came out because T-mo couldn't tell me when their next Android Device was coming out, and the only rumors were of the GPS phone which looked attrocious. The Nexus was available, but only for new plan holders and the price was rediculous, not to mention it was already getting long in the tooth. I love the EVO, and 6Mbps down on my 4G is great (when I get a strong 4G signal). I am not impressed with 3g as I never seem to get over 600kbps and I do not like the fact that I can't use Data and Phone at the same time on just 3g.
Otherwise, Sprint's plan is better despite the infamous "$10" fee, unless you primarily make phone calls to land lines. I got a bonus 450 min. on top of the 450 min. with the unlimited plan for land line calls and I rarely use 100 min. Otherwise they really are unlimited in the Data side.
I hope this helps in your decision. Good luck.
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i agree that the 3g sucks and that you cant use it at the same time but with the 4g you can surf and talk same time
Tmobile has the worst reception ever though.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/17/us-tmobile-att-lawsuits-idUSTRE77G59020110817
I know there's already a thread for this, but this article just seems too important for me.
Is At&t violating our rights? Somebody answer this for me.
don't know, but I just posted a thread about my complaint against AT&T today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
but apparently if the firm wins and we sign up, I think we can get $10,000
http://www.fightthemerger.com/FAQ/
Agreed.
I have heard from friends and customers as well how horrible att&t's reception can be, however i am not sure about customer service.
I have Verizon for a for my cell and Bellsouth for my home, I used to have att&t a long time ago.
I'm happy with at&t. Great customer service and great reception!. But why does everyone want to fight the merge? If anything it will boost t mobile
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I guess that depends on where you live. I was on AT&T less than a month ago and I can't say that I miss it. The service where I spent most of my time in was pretty bad. Calling coverage was somewhat ok around my work, but 3G was downright terrible. I could have a full row of bars on 3G and somehow still not be able to get on the web haha. My house was even worse. I'd usually have 1-2 bars, but it was almost a guaranteed drop call unless I sat right next to the window at the front of my house. Can't really comment on the customer service though, since I never really bothered to call.
Not really looking forward to the merge, but I'll reevaluate my options once my T-Mo contract expires. Maybe the merge will be a good thing. Maybe not. We'll see.
At&t kept the iphone exclusively for its own company for how many years?
Alot of my friends who are on T-mobile did so specifically because T-mobile has a better selection of phone plans for the working class. And I feel like they're not trying to screw me over with excess charges.
Back in the day, if you didn't like At&t, then fine, you still had T-mobile. But now it's not even possible to fight back against the merger.
trell959 said:
I'm happy with at&t. Great customer service and great reception!. But why does everyone want to fight the merge? If anything it will boost t mobile
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I'm against the merger because compared to T-mobile EVERYTHING ABOUT AT&T SUCKS! Their prices, customer service, phone selection...I mean AT&T ONLY RECENTLY got the Nexus S....I've had it on T-Mobile since Dec....
Silly people are silly.
I had T-Mobile for over 8 years and a year ago i switched to AT&T and got my captivate. I can say that I get much better 3g coverage, and much better 3g speeds in general. Yeah customer service isn't exactly the best but they help me with any issues I've had with them so far. But I am in the LA/OC area so I'm sure this is one of their most developed networks. But I remember on T-Mobile I would be stuck on Edge about half the time.
Everyone is different...but in MY AREA...T-Mo beats AT&T BY A MILE especially in coverage AND speed...not to mention I have the option to pay 60$ for 10GBs versus AT&T and their crappy 4GB for 45$....or I could stay with 5GB for 20$
#justsayin
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I ran away to Sprint... >.>;
Real unlimited, and wimax is fast around here.
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I ran away to Sprint... >.>;
Real unlimited, and wimax is fast around here.
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I wish I got 4g here. Sprint has been great other then that. Never had an issue that I couldn't get taken care of in a few minutes.
So I'm at a point where I am striking out on my own and dropping off my parents family plan. What I am looking at is A $100 plan from vzw for 2gb data and a $90 plan from att for 3gb data. (I use no more than 1.5gb in a month) Coverage in my area for verizon is a little bit better than att but no LTE from either side. My company has a discount for both providers at 17% so no advantage there. Verizon has the bad habit of locking up phones so I can't play with them as well.
Another option I've had is since my work doesn't allow cell phones on the premises, I have thought about switching to a dumb phone since I won't be using it 40-50 hours of the week but that is for a later time.
In other words, do you all think VZW "service" is worth a $150 bucks extra a year than att?
From what you've told me about your usage patterns, I'd go with ATT, or even a MNVO like Straight Talk.
I had ATT and the only reason I left was because of their throttling.. I prefer GSM phones to CDMA since they hold value better and since they are worldwide, you have more compatibility and a larger selection.
bukithd said:
So I'm at a point where I am striking out on my own and dropping off my parents family plan. What I am looking at is A $100 plan from vzw for 2gb data and a $90 plan from att for 3gb data. (I use no more than 1.5gb in a month) Coverage in my area for verizon is a little bit better than att but no LTE from either side. My company has a discount for both providers at 17% so no advantage there. Verizon has the bad habit of locking up phones so I can't play with them as well.
Another option I've had is since my work doesn't allow cell phones on the premises, I have thought about switching to a dumb phone since I won't be using it 40-50 hours of the week but that is for a later time.
In other words, do you all think VZW "service" is worth a $150 bucks extra a year than att?
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Straight Talk:
$45 a month ($50 after taxes)
Unlimited Talk
Unlimited Text
Unlimited* Data (just don't go nuts with it, but 1.5 GB is more than safe)
It runs on AT&T (also T-Mobile, but it asks you to choose which SIM you want. Choose AT&T). No, there's no LTE, but there's full speed HSPA+ which should be plenty fast. I don't think Verizon is worth it unless you're in an area where they're the only viable option, or if you need insane speed for some strange reason. I switched off my family's Sprint plan to Straight Talk. I don't know how I survived on CDMA; once you go GSM, the freedom of being able to switch phones whenever you want is great. If you're already on a GSM network, it's not worth giving up. That, and the price.
Order a SIM from http://straighttalk.com and choose "AT&T compatible SIM". It works in a locked AT&T phone or unlocked phone. You could even use your Rezound; I know it works on AT&T believe it or not. They found out a while ago. But if you're looking for a new phone, best bang for your buck? Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store.
Oh and when you fill in the APN for data, leave out the "Proxy" fields except for MMS Proxy. It disallows them from throttling you or monitoring what apps you use. They've been known to call people for streaming a lot, but I've gone over 2GB of usage and haven't gotten any calls from them or anything.
I agree. Verizon is just crap compared to what they used to be. In the days of unlimited data it wasn't so bad but now they are just plain greedy. Plus striking out on your own you don't want to get stuck if you lose your job paying a $100/mo bill when you could use that money for food. Trust me, it happened to me and now I owe Verizon and can't afford to pay them. If T-Mobile has good coverage they may be an option as well.
Pageplus is a Verizon MVNO.
For $55 per month (No Taxes!), you get unlimited talk/text and 2Gb of 3g data.
You can use a Verizon phone too!
Plus, if you buy from Pageplusdirect.com, you get a 7% discount!
Product F(RED) said:
Straight Talk:
$45 a month ($50 after taxes)
Unlimited Talk
Unlimited Text
Unlimited* Data (just don't go nuts with it, but 1.5 GB is more than safe)
It runs on AT&T (also T-Mobile, but it asks you to choose which SIM you want. Choose AT&T). No, there's no LTE, but there's full speed HSPA+ which should be plenty fast. I don't think Verizon is worth it unless you're in an area where they're the only viable option, or if you need insane speed for some strange reason. I switched off my family's Sprint plan to Straight Talk. I don't know how I survived on CDMA; once you go GSM, the freedom of being able to switch phones whenever you want is great. If you're already on a GSM network, it's not worth giving up. That, and the price.
Order a SIM from http://straighttalk.com and choose "AT&T compatible SIM". It works in a locked AT&T phone or unlocked phone. You could even use your Rezound; I know it works on AT&T believe it or not. They found out a while ago. But if you're looking for a new phone, best bang for your buck? Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store.
Oh and when you fill in the APN for data, leave out the "Proxy" fields except for MMS Proxy. It disallows them from throttling you or monitoring what apps you use. They've been known to call people for streaming a lot, but I've gone over 2GB of usage and haven't gotten any calls from them or anything.
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That's been one of the most complete decent answers I've got on this forum in a while. I will seriously consider it. AT&T gets good enough service for me to get the same stuff for half price. Thanks!
bukithd said:
That's been one of the most complete decent answers I've got on this forum in a while. I will seriously consider it. AT&T gets good enough service for me to get the same stuff for half price. Thanks!
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Product F(RED) said:
Straight Talk:
$45 a month ($50 after taxes)
Unlimited Talk
Unlimited Text
Unlimited* Data (just don't go nuts with it, but 1.5 GB is more than safe)
It runs on AT&T (also T-Mobile, but it asks you to choose which SIM you want. Choose AT&T). No, there's no LTE, but there's full speed HSPA+ which should be plenty fast. I don't think Verizon is worth it unless you're in an area where they're the only viable option, or if you need insane speed for some strange reason. I switched off my family's Sprint plan to Straight Talk. I don't know how I survived on CDMA; once you go GSM, the freedom of being able to switch phones whenever you want is great. If you're already on a GSM network, it's not worth giving up. That, and the price.
Order a SIM from http://straighttalk.com and choose "AT&T compatible SIM". It works in a locked AT&T phone or unlocked phone. You could even use your Rezound; I know it works on AT&T believe it or not. They found out a while ago. But if you're looking for a new phone, best bang for your buck? Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store.
Oh and when you fill in the APN for data, leave out the "Proxy" fields except for MMS Proxy. It disallows them from throttling you or monitoring what apps you use. They've been known to call people for streaming a lot, but I've gone over 2GB of usage and haven't gotten any calls from them or anything.
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I personally am done with Verizon. The very first phone I had wouldn't charge completely (8 hours on charger, half full, 2 hours battery life) almost from the get go, they started sending me refurbs and I've been stuck in refurb hell ever since. To top it off the data speeds and connection have gotten gradually worse in my area, like they are trying to push you to upgrade to a 4G phone and go to the new shared plans (which I don't doubt a bit). I can't get a good enough connection in the parking lot at work most days make a phone call, and I'm in the 2nd largest city in my state, we have 4G, and the coverage map is blood red with both 3G and 4G coverage. At my desk I'm lucky to get any coverage (thank god we have wifi, guy next to me on his VZW iphone 4 gets full signal). I got an unlocked GNEX a couple weeks ago, got a TMO sim to try out, I have consisten 4-5 bars at my desk and full signal in the parking lot, I only got the 100mb 4G plan but TMO's 2G speeds are about as fast as what I get on average with VZW. I'm on my 12th phone with VZW and had enough even though they keep replacing them. I pay $210 a month for service that doesn't work all the time and slow data speeds.
I'm going to straight talk next, because I learned the hard way TMO doesn't include roaming with their prepaid. Otherwise I'd stick with them because where they have coverage its been great. But for $45 a month, Straight Talk is getting a try it out month from me on AT&T's network which I have great signal with here.
Anyway, point was, stay away from VZW, they're greedy and pushing a bad product IMO.
I think android made verizon that way. When I first hopped on the network I got an incredible that was about 6 months after its release, I loved everything. Since then, there have been overly modded phones, worsening signal quality jack ups in price, and and my phone is just now (in the next couple of weeks maybe) set for an ICS update. I just wish there were more prepaid providers with better service history. Verizon does have good personal customer service, at least in my experience.
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I think android made verizon that way. When I first hopped on the network I got an incredible that was about 6 months after its release, I loved everything. Since then, there have been overly modded phones, worsening signal quality jack ups in price, and and my phone is just now (in the next couple of weeks maybe) set for an ICS update. I just wish there were more prepaid providers with better service history. Verizon does have good personal customer service, at least in my experience.
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Yeah I think so, with the success of Android they got greedy. Signal quality, prices, just not worth it anymore. However, their customer service has been fantastic, I have no problems getting replacement phones, just tired of needing them and really the problems have never gone away. Now that I've gone to an unlocked GNEX, I'm never going back, lol.
Verizon has to be the most controlling carrier in my knowledge. I mean they are one of the only ones to put a locked boot loader on the SGS III, and FFS they striped ram out of my old HTC Touch Pro. It's not like they charge any less for the crippled phones they sell, they're just in it for the money.
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Verizon has to be the most controlling carrier in my knowledge. I mean they are one of the only ones to put a locked boot loader on the SGS III, and FFS they striped ram out of my old HTC Touch Pro. It's not like they charge any less for the crippled phones they sell, they're just in it for the money.
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I used to work in a third-party Verizon store and a customer we've known for a while had been through 3 BB Storm 2's, all of them crapping out differently, but in ways that made them totally unusable. He was a doctor, so he needed a reliable phone. I called up CS on behalf of him, with him sitting across from me. All he wanted was a BB Bold, even a refurbished replacement (he had insurance), and they told me to tell him to just leave Verizon. How crazy is that?
They're also against Net Neutrality, which means they want to be able to charge you more for certain services. Like how AT&T is planning on charging extra for Facetime over 3G on the iPhone. It's like saying, "Oh, you want to watch YouTube on your phone? You'll need to shell out an extra $10 a month for our YouTube package. You wanna browse Facebook? You need to add $5 a month to your bill to have access to the Facebook app."
Product F(RED) said:
I used to work in a third-party Verizon store and a customer we've known for a while had been through 3 BB Storm 2's, all of them crapping out differently, but in ways that made them totally unusable. He was a doctor, so he needed a reliable phone. I called up CS on behalf of him, with him sitting across from me. All he wanted was a BB Bold, even a refurbished replacement (he had insurance), and they told me to tell him to just leave Verizon. How crazy is that?
They're also against Net Neutrality, which means they want to be able to charge you more for certain services. Like how AT&T is planning on charging extra for Facetime over 3G on the iPhone. It's like saying, "Oh, you want to watch YouTube on your phone? You'll need to shell out an extra $10 a month for our YouTube package. You wanna browse Facebook? You need to add $5 a month to your bill to have access to the Facebook app."
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this is what scares me about cell service regardless who is providing it. I want what was free to begin with to stay free. I already pay about 1000 bucks a year for you to do what you will with me.
Verizon perk though, they just hooked up 4g in my area today and it actually works.
Greetings fellow XDA'ers
I'll be writing breifly about my exprience with AIO using the XT1053. So first off, it's completely compatible and you probably knew that already if you're on XDA. All speeds work as advertised. then the prices you pay for AT&T service are amazing! but here's the thing.
I've been with them for 3-4 months. and the issues are constant and as follows:
MMS messaging constantly fails to send with correct APN settings input
several occassions of no service! (Emergency call only) while in places that I know have great coverage because I 've used my phone there before. like my college campus
Like most MNVO's they have bad customer service, didn't matter if I chatted or called in.
The ZTE prelude they advertised has Major MMS issues & runs super slow!
They also had an outage once for a whole night even though AT&T network was fine I have suspicions that they are having constant outages and not reporting this to users, which explains me having dropouts and no service!
Lastly I have had the issues, not using customs ROMS, across 3 phones, ZTE Prelude, Moto X XT1053, and the Samsung Skyrocket I727 which gives me very good credibility!
As a member of XDA, a believer in saving money and great quality service! I felt the need to report my issues to my friends and the great community that is XDA and the internet. AIO is not the way to go.
UPDATE!!!
:::Follow up report:::
1. The issue's I had existed for me with T-mobile as well. Therefore it certainly is a phone issue (I had 3 replacement phones is how I know it's a phone issue)
2. I have confirmed with Motorola Level 2 the stock messaging app has bugs in it [no ETA on a fix]. and I have confirmed thru reading a google plus thread that AIO APN settings were unsupported until recently, I think 4.4.2 supported it. idk and I can't find the post again lol.
consider yourself updated!
ANOTHER UPDATE!!! The signal loss was also a Moto X issue. There is a thread somewhere around here about it. I got a refund being that Motorola couldn't fix any of the above problems. They were fine to give it to me, you just have to push them a bit.
i live kinda remote. inside my house i get 1 bar from tmo at best. was with att but couldnt afford any more. my only question is does aio have the complete signal coverage as att does?
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Greetings fellow XDA'ers
I'll be writing breifly about my exprience with AIO using the XT1053. So first off, it's completely compatible and you probably knew that already if you're on XDA. All speeds work as advertised. then the prices you pay for AT&T service are amazing! but here's the thing.
I've been with them for 3-4 months. and the issues are constant and as follows:
MMS messaging constantly fails to send with correct APN settings input
several occassions of no service! (Emergency call only) while in places that I know have great coverage because I 've used my phone there before. like my college campus
Like most MNVO's they have bad customer service, didn't matter if I chatted or called in.
The ZTE prelude they advertised has Major MMS issues & runs super slow!
They also had an outage once for a whole night even though AT&T network was fine I have suspicions that they are having constant outages and not reporting this to users, which explains me having dropouts and no service!
Lastly I have had the issues, not using customs ROMS, across 3 phones, ZTE Prelude, Moto X XT1053, and the Samsung Skyrocket I727 which gives me very good credibility!
As a member of XDA, a believer in saving money and great quality service! I felt the need to report my issues to my friends and the great community that is XDA and the internet. AIO is not the way to go.
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I have none of those issue. Motox works as expected
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DrDecoy said:
i live kinda remote. inside my house i get 1 bar from tmo at best. was with att but couldnt afford any more. my only question is does aio have the complete signal coverage as att does?
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Yes, they use AT&T's network and the company is actually owned by AT&T. You could join straight talk, AIO, H20, net10, and there are more just google "AT&T mvno". Hope that helps.
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I have none of those issue. Motox works as expected
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maybe the issue is regional or sporatic, but still something I expreienced and being that thgey're are owned directly by AT&T I would'nt expect those kinds of issues. I'm in New York City.
krsmit0 said:
I have none of those issue. Motox works as expected
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Agreed. I have experienced none of those issues either, the phone works great on (AIO) At&t. Consistent LTE connection, even 20 miles out of town.
Save yourself the hassle and just grab the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan, yea you get less data but you make up for it with being on pre-paid AT&T, as you get better support than an MVNO, plus the ability to go to any AT&T corporate store to get help.
Oh and you can get refills on callingmart for like $54ish.
I've had AIO for 4 months with NONE of the issues you mentioned. My MMS send fine every time and I get no dropped service unless there actually is no service.
Also, AIO is not an MVNO and is owned by AT&T and I have gotten great customer support. I'm paying $45/month for 2.5gigs of data which is less than half of what I was paying with Verizon. I save ~$650 a year now and the service is as good as Verizon's if not better.
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mastarifla said:
Save yourself the hassle and just grab the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan, yea you get less data but you make up for it with being on pre-paid AT&T, as you get better support than an MVNO, plus the ability to go to any AT&T corporate store to get help.
Oh and you can get refills on callingmart for like $54ish.
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AIO is owned by AT&T and is not an MVNO.
I'm not using a Moto X, but wanted to mention my AIO experience. I moved from a $30/mo T-Mobile plan to AIO and found the signal and LTE amazingly better in the sense that I always maintain LTE (~5Mbps) vs going from LTE (>20Mpbs) to Edge as soon as I hit the highway/leave the city. Almost 0% without signal since moving to AIO.
AIO has been great for me so far. I don't use MMS as I rely on my Google Voice number, which doesn't support MMS, so I can't comment there.
bekyndnunwind said:
I've had AIO for 4 months with NONE of the issues you mentioned. My MMS send fine every time and I get no dropped service unless there actually is no service.
Also, AIO is not an MVNO and is owned by AT&T and I have gotten great customer support. I'm paying $45/month for 2.5gigs of data which is less than half of what I was paying with Verizon. I save ~$650 a year now and the service is as good as Verizon's if not better.
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AIO is owned by AT&T and is not an MVNO.
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Both AIO and GoPhone are subsidiaries of AT&T correct, but AIO is not considered a pre-paid plan of AT&T, thus it is an MVNO.
However we are just bickering about semantics at this point anyways, I didn't realize that they dropped their prices recently (like literally within the past few weeks). Also, since they don't use a proxy to filter all the data (like StraightTalk), I may have to actually give them a shot; as it seems like it would save me ~$10-15 a month. I would really like to perform a speed test though to see if there are ping related issues before switching though.
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Both AIO and GoPhone are subsidiaries of AT&T correct, but AIO is not considered a pre-paid plan of AT&T, thus it is an MVNO.
However we are just bickering about semantics at this point anyways, I didn't realize that they dropped their prices recently (like literally within the past few weeks). Also, since they don't use a proxy to filter all the data (like StraightTalk), I may have to actually give them a shot; as it seems like it would save me ~$10-15 a month. I would really like to perform a speed test though to see if there are ping related issues before switching though.
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They do use a Proxy for all data. Ping times are ~100-150 due to it. Never noticed an issue though. It's still about half of Straight Talk from what I have seen.
whitedragonz83 said:
They do use a Proxy for all data. Ping times are ~100-150 due to it. Never noticed an issue though. It's still about half of Straight Talk from what I have seen.
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The APN on the AIO website doesn't have any proxy information, well besides for the MMS. Kinda strange how they would leave that out, mainly since the GoPhone doesn't have such a proxy either, I tried my phone next to a carrier sim based phone and we were getting roughly the same ping times (~100ish).
Straight talk is really bad about it, but I also think it has to do with the number of customers going through the proxy itself. So if/when AIO gets more congested then it will be just as bad :/
If this is the case then maybe I'll just stick with GoPhone, I haven't really had any speed complaints and I seem to be getting really good LTE speeds. The reason the ping is so significant of an issue is because it effectively reduces your data throughput when loading videos/websites. So you may be registering ~8 Mbps on speedtest, but the effective speed is much much slower due to higher ping/latency.
I've been using the GoPhone sim in my Nexus and the T-Mobile sim in the Moto, the reception has been amazing in the Moto, I'm actually scared of how good the AT&T signal would be. However, the Nexus uses a micro and the Moto uses a nano. I don't want to jeopardize my phone with a sim adaptor, so I think I'll just keep using T-mobile for the time being
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The APN on the AIO website doesn't have any proxy information, well besides for the MMS. Kinda strange how they would leave that out, mainly since the GoPhone doesn't have such a proxy either, I tried my phone next to a carrier sim based phone and we were getting roughly the same ping times (~100ish).
Straight talk is really bad about it, but I also think it has to do with the number of customers going through the proxy itself. So if/when AIO gets more congested then it will be just as bad :/
If this is the case then maybe I'll just stick with GoPhone, I haven't really had any speed complaints and I seem to be getting really good LTE speeds. The reason the ping is so significant of an issue is because it effectively reduces your data throughput when loading videos/websites. So you may be registering ~8 Mbps on speedtest, but the effective speed is much much slower due to higher ping/latency.
I don't know why, but everywhere I search, the APN has a Proxy address for AIO. It's what I use too.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-4/289568-nexus-4-aio-wireless-apn-settings.html
I've been using the GoPhone sim in my Nexus and the T-Mobile sim in the Moto, the reception has been amazing in the Moto, I'm actually scared of how good the AT&T signal would be. However, the Nexus uses a micro and the Moto uses a nano. I don't want to jeopardize my phone with a sim adaptor, so I think I'll just keep using T-mobile for the time being
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Regardless of the effective speed, it is not noticeable in real-life usage. I'll keep an eye out if it gets a lot worse, like Straight Talk sounds.
GoPhone should be outstanding, as it is nearly the equivalent to post-paid AT&T.
Are you sure you are using "GoPhone" on T-Mobile networks? GoPhone is AT&T Prepaid.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/gophone.html
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Regardless of the effective speed, it is not noticeable in real-life usage. I'll keep an eye out if it gets a lot worse, like Straight Talk sounds.
GoPhone should be outstanding, as it is nearly the equivalent to post-paid AT&T.
Are you sure you are using "GoPhone" on T-Mobile networks? GoPhone is AT&T Prepaid.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/gophone.html
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I just hope it doesn't eventually become a factor in real life usage like ST currently is
I am currently using 2 cell phone plans, one for work and one for personal use. Personal is T-Mobile (5GB of data for $30? yes please), while the work is AT&T (mainly because of the unlimited talk time and the coverage). I'm debating on just going down to one since I have Google Voice ringing both phones currently and I don't spend 7GB a month (especially since Xposed), but I love the speeds and data connection of T-Mobile here in Dallas.
mastarifla said:
Save yourself the hassle and just grab the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan, yea you get less data but you make up for it with being on pre-paid AT&T, as you get better support than an MVNO, plus the ability to go to any AT&T corporate store to get help.
Oh and you can get refills on callingmart for like $54ish.
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That's what I did when I demoed AT&T for my Nexus 5 vs. Verizon. AT&T vs. Verizon aside, I was very happy with the GoPhone plan. I was hesitant to go with AIO because I had read from multiple sources that AIO is throttled to 8mbps. Yes, it's still AT&T LTE, but your priority on their network is lower than if you were on their network directly through AT&T or their official prepaid. See the following excerpt from this Droid-Life article (http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/06/atts-aio-wireless-prepaid-service-now-available-nationwide/) "High-speed access with download speeds up to a maximum of 8 Mbps for compatible devices. Maximum data download speeds are reduced when usage exceeds high-speed access allowance."
That is why I chose GoPhone over AIO.
laur3n.newm4n said:
That's what I did when I demoed AT&T for my Nexus 5 vs. Verizon. AT&T vs. Verizon aside, I was very happy with the GoPhone plan. I was hesitant to go with AIO because I had read from multiple sources that AIO is throttled to 8mbps. Yes, it's still AT&T LTE, but your priority on their network is lower than if you were on their network directly through AT&T or their official prepaid. See the following excerpt from this Droid-Life article (http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/06/atts-aio-wireless-prepaid-service-now-available-nationwide/) "High-speed access with download speeds up to a maximum of 8 Mbps for compatible devices. Maximum data download speeds are reduced when usage exceeds high-speed access allowance."
That is why I chose GoPhone over AIO.
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The benefits are both unique though, as follows:
ATT GOPHONE: You get to surf at that high speed the whole time. when it's done you have to pay up to keep it going.
AIO: You get the reduced speed, 8 mbps which is still fast and after you eat it up, you can still browse and check email, facebook. or any other light internet activities.
I've never had any use for super fast LTE on a mobile phone. Only on gaming consoles and a PC have I benefited from it.
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That's what I did when I demoed AT&T for my Nexus 5 vs. Verizon. AT&T vs. Verizon aside, I was very happy with the GoPhone plan. I was hesitant to go with AIO because I had read from multiple sources that AIO is throttled to 8mbps. Yes, it's still AT&T LTE, but your priority on their network is lower than if you were on their network directly through AT&T or their official prepaid. See the following excerpt from this Droid-Life article (http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/06/atts-aio-wireless-prepaid-service-now-available-nationwide/) "High-speed access with download speeds up to a maximum of 8 Mbps for compatible devices. Maximum data download speeds are reduced when usage exceeds high-speed access allowance."
That is why I chose GoPhone over AIO.
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Price is something you can't ignore though in your comparison.
$45/mo (tax/fees included) for 2.5GB/unlimited text/unlimited minutes on AIO
$60/mo (tax fees extra?) for 2GB/unlimited text/unlimited minutes on GoPhone.
I've had AIO for a month or so now. Maybe occasionally I notice the slow speed. 95% of the time, I probably don't and just enjoy the benefits of AT&T LTE everywhere I go saving $15/mo or $180/yr(maybe more if GoPhone is also taxed). This is though $15/mo more than my previous $30/mo T-Mobile plan. I just needed better coverage for highway driving and AIO was the next best thing imo.
I've been using them since October with an XT1055, and haven't had the SMS issues many others have.
Biggest problem until this past weekend was getting the Auto Pay to stick.
But this weekend I started experiencing 3 days of loosing connection and falling into the Emergency Call Only bin. A reboot would bring me back to "4G LTE/4 Bars", which would gradually settle down to a plain 2 bars. This was similar to what I experienced with my Palm 3, which was apparently related to WiFi/Phone/Bluetooth mutual interference. But I didn't see any software changes this past week that would have kicked something like that off.
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Price is something you can't ignore though in your comparison.
$45/mo (tax/fees included) for 2.5GB/unlimited text/unlimited minutes on AIO
$60/mo (tax fees extra?) for 2GB/unlimited text/unlimited minutes on GoPhone.
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If you're willing to forego auto-refill on GoPhone (if there is such a thing), $60 GoPgon refills regularly available from Callingmart for $54 - making the difference only $9 per month.
I was on Straight Talk (AT&T) for over 1 year, but eventually moved to GoPhone due to a calling issue I was having, combined with Straight Talk's horrible support. Then when I was evaluating the Moto X and Nexus 5 as replacements for my Galaxy Nexus, I found the added cost of GoPhone to be well worth it, in that it allowed me to walk into a store and switch between mini SIM, micro SIM and nano SIM on the spot, at no charge.
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If you're willing to forego auto-refill on GoPhone (if there is such a thing), $60 GoPgon refills regularly available from Callingmart for $54 - making the difference only $9 per month.
I was on Straight Talk (AT&T) for over 1 year, but eventually moved to GoPhone due to a calling issue I was having, combined with Straight Talk's horrible support. Then when I was evaluating the Moto X and Nexus 5 as replacements for my Galaxy Nexus, I found the added cost of GoPhone to be well worth it, in that it allowed me to walk into a store and switch between mini SIM, micro SIM and nano SIM on the spot, at no charge.
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Are they always 54 ?I seem to remember seeing it closer to 60.
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I am planing to switch carriers from Sprint to At&T or Verizon. I have three lines, big data user (~14-17Gb). I currently have unlimited data with sprint, but their data coverage is limited for me. I preordered the N6SP and wanted a know the communities opinion between the two. I know that my data will be limited and will be mindful.
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I am planing to switch carriers from Sprint to At&T or Verizon. I have three lines, big data user (~14-17Gb). I currently have unlimited data with sprint, but their data coverage is limited for me. I preordered the N6SP and wanted a know the communities opinion between the two. I know that my data will be limited and will be mindful.
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Go with cricket
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I guess it depends on the coverage each one provides in your area. If they're both reliable, AT&T plans seem a bit more $ friendly for multiple device users. Your call.
T-Mobile. Keep the unlimited data and get a better signal. I think they are still offering 14 day test drives so you and your family can check out out and see how it works in your area and areas you frequent. I moved from Verizon years ago and never looked back.
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SymbioticGenius said:
T-Mobile. Keep the unlimited data and get a better signal. I think they are still offering 14 day test drives so you and your family can check out out and see how it works in your area and areas you frequent. I moved from Verizon years ago and never looked back.
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hard to believe that tmobile gets better signal...
Verizon has the best coverage, but is the most expensive. Also look into Google's Project Fi. It uses T-Mobile and Sprint networks as well as Wi-Fi calling and you only pay for the data you use ($10/GB).
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In my experience I'll rank them as follows:
Verizon (best building penetration)
T-Mobile (best combination of coverage and speed)
ATT (slightly better coverage, speed sucks)
..... Anything else prepaid/whatever
Sprint (nothing good to say) *silence*
Most recently in the top floor of my house a visitor had no signal with sprint at all whereas I was fine on T-Mobile.
In my father's office in Manhattan he has no signal from T-Mobile on the first 4 floors but fine anywhere above, but Verizon works in the basement.
In my mother's office (in the middle of a brick college building) she had no signal on T-Mobile only in her office, but as soon as she stepped out of her office anywhere else in the building she's fine. Verizon works fine in her office.
However in a recent hospital visit neither of my parents phones worked on Verizon but I was fine on T-Mobile.
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I've had all of them except for Sprint. Verizon will find a way to screw you over and charge you more for nothing. AT&T is just expensive for marginal amounts of data. T-Mobile isn't the best but I have 2 lines with unlimited everything and pay $100 a month so for me that's the best compromise between everything. I get up to 80mb/s DL where I live which is better than At&t or VZW surprisingly. On the other hand their coverage in the middle of nowhere is nonexistent whereas the other two usually have something. It just depends on what your need and how the coverage is where you live.
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I've had all of them except for Sprint. Verizon will find a way to screw you over and charge you more for nothing. AT&T is just expensive for marginal amounts of data. T-Mobile isn't the best but I have 2 lines with unlimited everything and pay $100 a month so for me that's the best compromise between everything. I get up to 80mb/s DL where I live which is better than At&t or VZW surprisingly. On the other hand their coverage in the middle of nowhere is nonexistent whereas the other two usually have something. It just depends on what your need and how the coverage is where you live.
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I agree.
T-Mobile is the best compromise.
Not saying they have the fastest network or signal everywhere, but their prices are pretty good and if you're in a pretty popular area - signal is actually pretty good too.
Check your coverage map?
A few years ago, I would NEVER have recommended At&t and I was about to switch to Verizon (as soon as my contract was up).....Then, in my area, At&t installed several new LTE towers and I have better reception than any of my Verizon friends. Even when camping in the middle of nowhere, I can get signal every now and again where they don't.
I also like the fact you can be on a call and use data at the same time...... Don't do it much, but sometimes it comes in handy. For example, my wife calls and asks "what time is the show tonight"? I can pull the phone away from my ear, pull up the website and find out and let her know. Verizon may have changed this in the past few years, but you couldn't do this with them last I knew? You would have had to say "I'll check and call/text you back".
But it basically comes down to checking your coverage map.... I manage a friends Verizon account that is very similar to my At&t account, and the prices are all about the same. At&t did recently have a "double your data for $0 extra" promotion that I got in on and I've seen Verizon run these from time to time as well.
So.....As I've said a few times, it just comes down to coverage.
I have Verizon now and had att at one point , they were both about the same price for me. att had better coverage at certain spots and same was true for Verizon. My verizon LTE service has been great in central NJ and i cant speak for att but a friend of mine has att and says the LTE is good. Now i can say i would stay away from sprint i have a few friends who have it and when we are all together they are always not able to use there phones cause there service is at one bar to nothing.
I think you cant go wrong with either ATT or Verizon they both have one of the best networks in the us in my experience. main thing to note is ATT isnt as locked down as verizon is. Verizon is not as easy to bring a unlocked phone into there network IE moto x pure, and nexus 6 (before they sold it) and the new 6P. they have gotten better but still a lot harder then it needs to be
just my 2 cents
I moved off AT&T to try Project Fi. Was perfectly happy with AT&T, but Fi was cheaper and seemed very interesting. Had a huge problem with their Hangouts calling feature - it kept my N6 from being able to make/receive calls. If I uninstalled Hangouts from all my devices/computers, including the N6, the phone would work fine. After 2 weeks of no Hangouts, I was about ready to put a nail into my head. So, I switched to Verizon.
Now, I have used Verizon on my work phone for years. The coverage they have helps ensure I can use the phone while on business travel. That's great for businesses, but honestly doesn't mean much for me when I'm at home and all the carriers give adequate service. Now that I think about the extra $ the Verizon plan costs me, the fact that I have to subscribe to visual voicemail for an extra $3 a month where I didn't have to before, and that it took an act of congress for them to issue me a SIM card for a "NON-VZW Device"... I'm kind of wondering why I just didn't go back to AT&T. Or even T-mobile. ... well, anyone but Sprint.
Yeah it was an act of congress to get my nano sim activated too , now they do offer a free version of the visual VM that im using now. I looked into project Fi but the cost wouldn't be much cheaper i use way too much data lol
If someone actually looked at the prices of the new plans you would see that ATT and Verizon are about the same and in some cases V$ is even cheaper...not by a lot....This is for a single phone..but I dont think its much different with multiples. Go with whoever has the best coverage..but even then its probably a wash at this point too.