Hello,
Guys, i would really appreciate some help with this.
I have a Zenfone 3 5.2' and i am trying to use an AppLock that will work with my fingerprint.
Asus Zenfone 3 has a completely idiotic design in how it stores fingerprints, i can not have a fingerprint stored on the device UNLESS i use a lockscreen that is protected by either fingerpring + pin or pattern, there is no way to have a fingerprint stored on the device if i don't have my lockscreen protected, i cant just use swipe to unlock and have a fingerprint stored.
Any stored fingerprints will get deleted if i dont use pin or pattern lockscreen.
My question is.....how can i disable my lockscreen or preferably keep it on swipe to unlock but still have a fingerprint stored so that i can use AppLock to lock certain apps and be able to unlock them with my fingerprint ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
settings - security - clear credentials
adhiduzz said:
settings - security - clear credentials
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And this will help me how exactly...?
What i need is to have a fingerprint stored on the device without having it (or pin / pattern) protecting my lockscreen.
Is there no workaround to be able to use the fingerprint for unlocking apps ? Can anyone think of something ? some separate way to store the fingerprint, in the app itself or so would be nice.
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So I just upgraded to the OOS 3.0.2 MM build, and there's a new issue that's greatly annoying me. If you lock the phone with the power button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock it fine. However, if you lock it with something else (as I do with both shake-to-lock and Nova's lock actions), it will insist on ALSO asking for the pin/pattern unlock once your fingerprint has been scanned.
Anyone find a way to disable this security feature while still having a fingerprint unlock in place? Neither Gravity Box nor the security settings are presenting any obvious options
That's a feature of Android MM, not OOS. It can't be disabled.
baw2607 said:
That's a feature of Android MM, not OOS. It can't be disabled.
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There is no way to disable it? Even rooted? No xposed or system level hack?
It seems to be an error in design of Nova launcher and other solutions. They don't use the correct way of locking the phone hardlocking instead of softlocking, and therefore the phone will ask for pin just as if you restarted your phone.
Artemicion said:
So I just upgraded to the OOS 3.0.2 MM build, and there's a new issue that's greatly annoying me. If you lock the phone with the power button, the fingerprint scanner will unlock it fine. However, if you lock it with something else (as I do with both shake-to-lock and Nova's lock actions), it will insist on ALSO asking for the pin/pattern unlock once your fingerprint has been scanned.
Anyone find a way to disable this security feature while still having a fingerprint unlock in place? Neither Gravity Box nor the security settings are presenting any obvious options
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I had same issue when i used double tap to sleep in nova launcher prime.... i is because it uses device administrator to lock phone! I fixed by using root to lock my mobile....
Long story short you need your application to use root to lock your device!
But what if the shakelock app I use (and love!) doesn't use root....? It's sounding like I'm out of luck here. How have you managed to make Nova use root to lock?
I guess I'm more of an Apex guy, don't fancy Nova launcher even though I bought it a couple of years ago. I just double tap on top part of screen to lock, or press the power button, or let it timeout. For unlocking, I just use fingerprint, no fuss, no asking for code.
I was happy with Nova Launcher (which is currently on sale for $0.99 on the Play store), until I found out that it has a bug in voice searches from the Home Screen's search bar. It annoyed the heck out of me as it kept on complaining "App not installed" when clicking on the little mic. I had to click on the search bar and THEN click on the other mic that appeared, inorder to access voice search. Defeats the purpose of the voice search b/c I use it a lot while driving and I cant be bothered to be clicking through so many hoops. So I switched my homescreen launcher to Google Now Launcher, while keeping everything else Nova Prime.
For anyone interested, I have found a sort-of solution. Using a combo of Xposed Maxlock and Lockscreen Disabler, it's possible to have a lockscreen up that you can dismiss by using the fingerprint sensor. There's a fairly obvious downside in that it doesn't matter what fingerprint hits the sensor, as anything at all unlocks the screen (which is Lockscreen Disabler's function) but it works as a way to use a non-root lock method that still allows you to unlock the screen with just a touch. Until such a time as someone finds a better solution
I'm pretty sure that it's easy to write a simple apk that uses the root method to call the screen off function. Only if someone would write that
Why I tell that - because if You double tap the status bar - the screen locks and You can easily unlock it just with the fingerprint sensor... therefore, that function does exist already in the ROM.
Yeah, I've got the Nova rooted lock function working, so those actions or GravtiyBox stuff like double tap status bar will work and not require pin+fingerprint, but my specific ask is this way to lock the screen by quickly flicking/shaking the phone (which is GREAT and I don't understand what hasn't been included in stock) - none of those seem to use root to lock so this workaround is a way to have that convenient screen off + convenient fingerprint on.
Is there a way I can set this? Like if I don't use my phone for an hour require a pin to unlock it instead of a fingerprint.
Hola
Simple I think. 2 areas you need to configure:
1. Settings -> Display -> Sleep
2. Settings -> Security -> Screen lock -> Automatic lock
aijorgenson said:
Is there a way I can set this? Like if I don't use my phone for an hour require a pin to unlock it instead of a fingerprint.
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Unless ZTE changed the lockscreen behavior from Marshmallow, the fingerprint scanner will always unlock the device. If you can disable the fingerprint scanner temporarily, I can work something out for you using Tasker. On the lock screen, look for the padlock logo (it might be a fingerprint) at the bottom center of the screen. Either tap it, or press and hold. You may or may not see a message appear (see the attached screenshot). Try to unlock the phone with your fingerprint and let me know if you're forced to type in the PIN.
Apps designated as Device Administrators are supposed to have the ability to lock the device and disable the fingerprint scanner. Nova Launcher, Secure Settings, and Tasker all have Device Administrator supported lock commands. On stock Android, this would disable the fingerprint scanner and require the PIN to be entered. On B29, I found that ZTE removed this behavior and gave the fingerprint scanner absolute authority to unlock the device. If this is still the case, I never figured out a way to completely lock the device.
FWIW I was forced to enter a password today, fingerprint did not work. I did not knowingly reboot. I too find this behavior very disturbing. I do not memorize my passwords as the are robust (long) my finger should suffice in all circumstances IMHO. I am wondering if I could get any kind of an answer from customer service at Axon....
Like the title says, is there a way to just have fingerprint be used to get into certain apps like all your banking etc and just be able to hit the home button to unlock or swipe to unlock the phone. I'm new to it and not a fan of the spot of the fingerprint spot (who is right?) came from a Pixel XL and just cant get use to it. So just wondering if there is any option like that so I dont have to remember as many password variations to get logged in. Thanks
use either no lockscreen or a slide to unlock lockscreen(lock screen and security > lock screen type), and use the secure folder app to store all your sensitive apps and data.
or you can configure smart lock(lock screen and security) and use a secure settings app to set the lockscreen timeout to more than 24 hours, and use secure folder for sensitive data and apps.
any half decent banking app should already have protection through a pin and/or fingerprint so you shouldn't need secure folder.
I'm using the 2nd option since it also lets me use some of my phone's secure features that require a protected lockscreen.
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use either no lockscreen or a slide to unlock lockscreen(lock screen and security > lock screen type), and use the secure folder app to store all your sensitive apps and data.
or you can configure smart lock(lock screen and security) and use a secure settings app to set the lockscreen timeout to more than 24 hours, and use secure folder for sensitive data and apps.
any half decent banking app should already have protection through a pin and/or fingerprint so you shouldn't need secure folder.
I'm using the 2nd option since it also lets me use some of my phone's secure features that require a protected lockscreen.
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Yea thats what I want is to be able to just use fingerprint for my banking apps mainly but i couldnt figure out how to have that enabled in their app without having it enabled to unlock phone.
Hey,
is it possible to unlock the phone with fingerprints without having to lock the phone with pins or something?
The only reason for me using the fingerprint unlock is that it's the quickest and easiest way of unlocking the phone.
I don't need/ want the extra "security".
I think no, but why would you wan't to disable PIN since you don't need to use it?
User422 said:
Hey,
is it possible to unlock the phone with fingerprints without having to lock the phone with pins or something?
The only reason for me using the fingerprint unlock is that it's the quickest and easiest way of unlocking the phone.
I don't need/ want the extra "security".
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So, what happens that time you just can't get the fingerprint to unlock?
The PIN/Pattern is there for that eventuality.
If need be it's there for someone else to unlock if there is an emergency and you can't use your fingerprint.
ultramag69 said:
So, what happens that time you just can't get the fingerprint to unlock?
The PIN/Pattern is there for that eventuality.
If need be it's there for someone else to unlock if there is an emergency and you can't use your fingerprint.
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To clarify things: I want no unnecessary "security".
Just fingerprint unlock and swiping to unlock.
When I tap on notifications, I want them to open up immediately instead of asking for pin or anything.
Vika__ said:
I think no, but why would you wan't to disable PIN since you don't need to use it?
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If I'd disable the pin, it would also disable the fingerprint unlock. But I just want fingerprint and swipe to unlock.
I don't want the pins or anything else to block the unlocking when I double tap on a notification.
Wait, if you have swipe to unlock (to access your notifications), why would you need fingerprint access? You (or anyone else) could just double tap your notifications to see them and then have full access to your system.
Outside of the first unlock after a reboot, you can just use your fingerprint to unlock when you see the PIN screen (such as when double tapping a notification).
Either way though, the answer is "No." You cannot have fingerprint authentication without a PIN/Pattern lock on any Android (or iOS device for that matter). The systems won't allow it.
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So, what happens that time you just can't get the fingerprint to unlock?
The PIN/Pattern is there for that eventuality.
If need be it's there for someone else to unlock if there is an emergency and you can't use your fingerprint.
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If you have both fingerprint unlock and pin enabled you only need to enter your pin the first time after boot. After entering it that one time you will be able to unlock your screen with fingerprint only until you reboot the phone again. Entering the pin once isn't that much of an inconvenience.
I think its really required to have a backup security when using a fingerprint to unlock the phone. Though you just have to unlock it once with pin and then fingerprint all the way!
lazygeniuslanz said:
I think its really required to have a backup security when using a fingerprint to unlock the phone. Though you just have to unlock it once with pin and then fingerprint all the way!
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I am amazed by the fact that no one else than you actually understood what I want and what the problem is.
Even after clarifying...
I guess I'll ask for it in the xposed module requests section.
jhs39 said:
If you have both fingerprint unlock and pin enabled you only need to enter your pin the first time after boot. After entering it that one time you will be able to unlock your screen with fingerprint only until you reboot the phone again. Entering the pin once isn't that much of an inconvenience.
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The problem is still that I want swipe + fingerprint.
I don't use the fingerprint as security. I use it to unlock it quicker.
I use the pattern. And I don't want others to be locked out of my phone. And I don't want to say what my pattern is all the time.
And I want to be able to open a notification just by a double tap.
It's inconcovient to use double tap AND fingerprint to open a simple notification.
Xposed isn't going to help at all in this case. Sorry, but the API (Application Program Interface) that deals with fingerprints is very strict in what it can/can't do and that's by design. This cannot be modified.
Your best option is to use something like Smart Lock, where you can have the phone automatically unlock when connected to a trusted Wi-Fi, Bluetooth device, or even carrying the phone.
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User422 said:
I am amazed by the fact that no one else than you actually understood what I want and what the problem is.
Even after clarifying...
I guess I'll ask for it in the xposed module requests section.
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Haha thanks, but they also have their points. You really need a backup security method if you're using biometric unlocking. For example, you're using a fingerprint, iris scanner, or face recognition, it is really required to have a backup "secured" "in-screen" unlocking method for your phone. It means that, when your biometric scanners broke for some reason, you have other way to unlock it.
Its a no brainer for the developers to allow fingerprint for unlocking then if it fails, you just have to swipe the phone to unlock. Unless its really for speed of, I guess, half a second of your life. It's really an essential feature, because in a case when your phone gets stolen, the thief can just break the scanner or just try it a lot until it requires you to just "unsecured" swipe it up. So I'll advice you to just use half a second of your life to unlock a pattern (the easiest and fastest other way). You just have to swipe at least 4 dots and then your phone is now secured the easiest and fastest way.
I think what he meant was that he wants to unlock his phone with the home button as an unlock button, and without any fingerprint security. Am I right?
Let me correct myself. Literally no one understood what I mean.
Just close this thread if possible. I'm not writing anymore.
We did understand what you are wanting to do; we've just said that it is not possible.
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I think what he meant was that he wants to unlock his phone with the home button as an unlock button, and without any fingerprint security. Am I right?
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This is exactly what OP wants, convenience without security.
But since it can't be done, the next best thing is remove security and double tap to wake up.
you will need two commits
https://github.com/BootleggersROM/frameworks_base/commit/5877b483dea848e4f35fe6004f0069422d2678fc
https://github.com/BootleggersROM/p...mmit/9d5f80bddd2052253bcf57e0ee3e0e83c62617a7
I'd like to keep fingerprints to use with App Lock and such but without using the lockscreen. Any way to keep them?
I also want this, so it works like a password for apps
but I don't like to unlock my phone at all, just swipe on the lockscreen
I searched a lot, found another thread someone wanted this too
but nobody understood him, they thought he wants only Fingerprint without pin?
but why is it not possible to use Fingerprint (and backup pin or password) ONLY for applock, and not on the lockscreen
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I also want this, so it works like a password for apps
but I don't like to unlock my phone at all, just swipe on the lockscreen
I searched a lot, found another thread someone wanted this too
but nobody understood him, they thought he wants only Fingerprint without pin?
but why is it not possible to use Fingerprint (and backup pin or password) ONLY for applock, and not on the lockscreen
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Especially when the Samsung phones can do this. :silly:
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Especially when the Samsung phones can do this. :silly:
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In addition to the FP, use on body detection and face unlock.
That should reduce if not eliminate the need to unlock the phone manually.
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In addition to the FP, use on body detection and face unlock.
That should reduce if not eliminate the need to unlock the phone manually.
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But then I can't swipe on the lockscreen, there's no lock at all, so if I was previously in whatsapp I would be instantly online, instead of just reading messages on the lockscreen
Skenderbeggar said:
I'd like to keep fingerprints to use with App Lock and such but without using the lockscreen. Any way to keep them?
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Try using the app No Lock :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock&hl=en_US
I don't use the FPR,or,any lockscreen for that matter,so,IDK if this will work.
I used it on other phones where you had to use at minimum a swipe to open & it bypassed that requirement,perhaps it'll do the same in this situation.
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But then I can't swipe on the lockscreen, there's no lock at all, so if I was previously in whatsapp I would be instantly online, instead of just reading messages on the lockscreen
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It was only a suggestion.
I don't mind a lock screen on my phone.
I want my phone to lock.
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Try using the app No Lock :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock&hl=en_US
I don't use the FPR,or,any lockscreen for that matter,so,IDK if this will work.
I used it on other phones where you had to use at minimum a swipe to open & it bypassed that requirement,perhaps it'll do the same in this situation.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Tried it, but still have to swipe to get in. I'm not sure of other OS' but TouchWiz allowed for it. I'll write OnePlus Dev's to hopefully include it on an update. Also, native rear flash notification since we don't have a led for it.