Huawei P8 automatically kills apps - Huawei P8 Questions & Answers

Hi
my P8 automatically kills apps that are running for longer than one hour. For example if I use Google Maps Navigation, or Runkeeper to track my runs.
In settings i have 'Performance' selected in the Power Savings Menu, I added Google Maps, Runkeeper, etc. to the protected apps and i don't have any third party app for battery saving, task killing or something like that. I also locked the app in the app switcher by swiping down on it, so that the lock icon appears.
Nevertheless after running for just over an hour this morning, Runkeeper was killed anyway.
Does anybody have the same problem and knows a solution?
Thanks
anarki

ltc.anarki said:
Hi
my P8 automatically kills apps that are running for longer than one hour. For example if I use Google Maps Navigation, or Runkeeper to track my runs.
In settings i have 'Performance' selected in the Power Savings Menu, I added Google Maps, Runkeeper, etc. to the protected apps and i don't have any third party app for battery saving, task killing or something like that. I also locked the app in the app switcher by swiping down on it, so that the lock icon appears.
Nevertheless after running for just over an hour this morning, Runkeeper was killed anyway.
Does anybody have the same problem and knows a solution?
Thanks
anarki
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Hi, try Settings>serach: optimalization (ignore app optimalisation or something like that) and select what apps you dont want to be killed, maybe it helps

ltc.anarki said:
Does anybody have the same problem and knows a solution?
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There is no solution. every phone with EMUI works like that. It's intentional to save battery (that's what they say). I heard they fixed it in EMUI 5 (which is closer to stock Android) but P8 is not going to get it. If you really need those apps you have no choice - change your phone.

majaczos said:
There is no solution. every phone with EMUI works like that. It's intentional to save battery (that's what they say). I heard they fixed it in EMUI 5 (which is closer to stock Android) but P8 is not going to get it. If you really need those apps you have no choice - change your phone.
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no true, if you need some app to work in deep sleep, you just have to allow it in manager and disable its optimalization, then it wont be killed

there is an option in settings..called protected apps on or off

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00471 said:
no true, if you need some app to work in deep sleep, you just have to allow it in manager and disable its optimalization, then it wont be killed
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It will be killed but after a slightly longer period of time. No app will last more than 3 hours in the memory. That's how EMUI works.

majaczos said:
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It will be killed but after a slightly longer period of time. No app will last more than 3 hours in the memory. That's how EMUI works.
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what version of rom are you using? i have Gratitude V5, gmail works during all night, no problem what so ever, messenger works too even if i selected it to be killed and optimized by system, only thing you have to do is to convert it to system app

Stock B382. It's better than on B200 - before it was killing all apps instantly when the screen was off.

majaczos said:
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It will be killed but after a slightly longer period of time. No app will last more than 3 hours in the memory. That's how EMUI works.
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That's not true, I have a number of apps that run in the background and don't get killed. Tasker, Light Flow, Doggcatcher, Gmail, K9mail...
I'm on latest Gratitude and was in the Fromfuture ROMs before.

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Google services using more battery than screen!

Can someone please tell me why Google services is using that much battery. Is it a wake lock or something? Anyone had a similar experience? How can I stop it from using this much data?
Thank you
ChampMEon said:
Can someone please tell me why Google services is using that much data. Is it a wake lock or something? Anyone had a similar experience? How can I stop it from using this much data?
Thank you
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same problem mate, when I turn off location services, use goes down, google needs to sort this, same problem on HTC one, there is some bug in google now, nexus 4 users were suffering the same, but google was prompt to close the bug, we all know all these other devices are treated like stepson:laugh::laugh:
Same here
I had the same problem i figured out thanks to better battery stats that the problem was partial wakelock called audioout_2. It just didnt let the phone to go sleep. I figured that real racing 3 caused this! if you play that game just close it (hold menu button and swipe it off) and now it isnt draining so much (i know it is called google services but strangely real racing did this just try it)
but if you are not playing this game it could be caused by other app just install better battery stats charge phone to 100% and let it be overnight and in the morning look to better battery stats what causes your wakelocks
proof that it is counted as google services in attachement and tomorow i can add stats from this night when i will just close real racing
+1... But it's not happening everyday to me, just sometimes... But with same usage...
I am witnessing this for approximately 3 months, very sad with this…
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A reboot would fix this. I experience this after I use google maps which is very stupid.
Recently noticed the same, it is so ridiculous! So I went to Settings -More tab -Location Services -unmarked WiFi&mobile network location -Restarted and all is good!
Google MUST fix this!! :angry:
Plagued me when i got my S4, turning off Sync and GPS will prevent most if not all, but as people will point out...if you do that you lose Google Now and some other google syncing services.
This is what ive been doing at night or when im not using those apps...
Not the perfect scenario and google does need to fix this asap.
Nothing to be alarmed. Probably it is just location history being recorded.
Btw 4.3 does wifi location even with wifi off. Just making sure there is a real time location even after you selected to switch both gps and Wifi off.
/Sarcasm off
Forgot to add, you can turn location services and history off via settings (no need for root).
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tclocki said:
A reboot would fix this. I experience this after I use google maps which is very stupid.
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I disable that
DeepPurple114 said:
I disable that
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You disabled google maps?
If you are rooted you can try to use Greenify to "freeze" apps like google maps when your display is switched off.
It reduced my wakelocks to a minimum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
tclocki said:
You disabled google maps?
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Yes,there is a problem?
my battery awesome! i use google maps from the browser.. good alternative
No, actually I would like to uninstall those updates for Google maps, I just don't like how the google maps look now.
I had the same problem
ChampMEon said:
Can someone please tell me why Google services is using that much battery. Is it a wake lock or something? Anyone had a similar experience? How can I stop it from using this much data?
Thank you
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I had the same problem. In my case i found that the google contacts were syncing all the time. every minute.
The only way to stop draining the the baterry was to stop the sync. i activate ir ones a week to keep by contacts in gmail.
The problem was solved after Samsung deliver a new version.
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Guys i already told you that it is caused because of some app but it is shown as google services which isnt true!
Look at first attached file this is like 28% after 10 and half hours on battery (i was sleeping) with wifi off but mobile data on and google contact sync, gmail, app data and chrome on and with google location services on (via networks, GPS was off ) and i didnt closed any apps with holding home button and swiping them off
Second attached file is same setting but i closed all apps and look it drained 11% after 18 hours 49mins (i was sleeping and in work and left my phone home because of this testing) which is great standby battery life (nearly 8 days 100% - 0 % ) and as you can see still it say that google services drained 89% of it but battery life is better than in first attachement
I investigated it and found out that Real racing 3 didnt let my phone to go to sleep and it was because of kernel wakelock AudioOut_8 and some other apps like skype can do the same so my advice is close apps before long standby it helps just try it and you can even figure out which one did it
PS: Sorry for my english its not my native language but i think you will get what i mean
Thanks for the thread @ChampMEon
I've had the same issues. But seems like 4.3 have improved on it!

Google as Home Button only works until you clear all apps running in the background

I have disabled HiVoice app which was using the home button using tool called Debloater! Now I am having a problem with my Huawei Honor Note 8 where I have given all permissions to Google app to act as my home button which works with the app or settings page opened but after I clear apps in the background it ceases to work until I go into Settings and disable and renable it from the Assist (changing what holding home button does). It will do the same again after clearing apps. Endless repeat. Is there a solution to this
I don't know who's bright idea it was at Huawei but clearing the running apps kills so many background processes too. Even protected processes get killed so I NEVER do that on this phone. It messes up so many notifications & running apps for me. It's one of the few things I absolutely hate about this phone. But again if you just never do it... it's kinda normal again.
I have never seen such bad management. I have resorted to keeping Facebook Messenger and Google in my recent apps list and never using kill button. This is very inconvenient. I can't forgive Huawei for doing this. Why won't they let us delete Phone Managed app even using Debloater doesn't recognise the app. This kills battery life by havinf the apps opened in recent app view. Seriously! Huawei I won't buy another phone until this is fixed. Will we be getting Nougat, this doesn't seem to be a popular phone online
It's one of the reasons I can't wait for a stock rom!
I'm going to wait until Nougat EMUI rom or Stock Nougat. I don't want to go backwards.
anyone that can help. I have gave it drop zone permission, autostart permission, trust app with all permissions and app secondary launch. nothing works!

[Guide] How to stop stop an app from "waking" your device

So far I thought that the battery saver feature "close app after lock" is not working because every time I unlock my phone few apps were working. Usually facebook, instagram and viber. My previous phone was Xiaomi and in xiaomi's software there is an option to block an app from auto-starting and waking your device. Well, today I found the same option in our phone. It is deeply hidden, lol. So i thought some of you may like this option. I think this will be good to the battery life of this device. So let me tell you where you can find the option:
Settings > Battery > Consumption level.
Now you see 2 categories - Hardware and Software. Obviously you should look into the software one. Find the facebook app (for example) and click on it. You will see "Settings" and under it you will find:
1) Power-intensive prompt
2) System wakeup
3) Close after screen lock
Now you can change the second option - System wakeup.
I looked through most of the apps and it seems that it works only with the downloaded apps. Not every app wakes your device but these which wakes your device can be blocked from doing it.
Unfortunately, it has been toggle for a long time in my case and it doesn't stop app like Facebook or Instagram to keep the system awake ?
frenchtouch92 said:
Unfortunately, it has been toggle for a long time in my case and it doesn't stop app like Facebook or Instagram to keep the system awake ?
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Have you tried greenify with donation package and root? Works for me.
That only work for downloaded applications, not preinstaled. Mr suggestion is to uninstall and then unload again from the store.
It worked for me
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komakino76 said:
Have you tried greenify with donation package and root? Works for me.
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No I didn't since I don't have root access on my honor 8 :/ waiting for a stable rom before digging into this

Phone not receiving real time notifications

Hi, I have an OP5 on stock Open Beta 5, I'm currently rooted.
Apps that usually have real time notifications or functions don't seem to work until I manually start them after bootup, or even don't work at all.
For example, my mail app now doesn't give me notifications, rather I would have to open up the app manually and refresh the app to see my mail load. Other apps like a notification mirroring app don't work at all until I launch it once on my phone every restart.
I thought it was like Greenify shutting these processes down but I've uninstalled that since. Any ideas?
erak606 said:
Hi, I have an OP5 on stock Open Beta 5, I'm currently rooted.
Apps that usually have real time notifications or functions don't seem to work until I manually start them after bootup, or even don't work at all.
For example, my mail app now doesn't give me notifications, rather I would have to open up the app manually and refresh the app to see my mail load. Other apps like a notification mirroring app don't work at all until I launch it once on my phone every restart.
I thought it was like Greenify shutting these processes down but I've uninstalled that since. Any ideas?
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Did you reboot and wipe cache? What mods did you use additional? Please give more details about your setup.
You can also exclude apps from battery optimization for keeping this apps awake even when doze kicks in so messages came always through and not only in specific time periods.
strongst said:
Did you reboot and wipe cache? What mods did you use additional? Please give more details about your setup.
You can also exclude apps from battery optimization for keeping this apps awake even when doze kicks in so messages came always through and not only in specific time periods.
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Hi, I'm currently rooted with Magisk. I tried excluding the app from battery optimisation and so far it's been working.
erak606 said:
Hi, I'm currently rooted with Magisk. I tried excluding the app from battery optimisation and so far it's been working.
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If it's not working please answer the other questions too

Disable Battery Optimization

So it looks like there are many people having issues with the battery optimization feature, which lets me guess oneplus is already aware of the problem. My question is if there is a way to disable the optimization completely for now until oneplus has sorted things out.
Since the last update it is so aggressive, it kills youtube's connection to my chromecast every few minutes, rendering all control features unuseable as I always have to reconnect before I can do anything. This also makes my wearOS watch unuseable as it also depends on the phone keeping the connections alive.
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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I also would like to know if this is possible in an easy way. I don't want to disable it for 256 apps independently.
Aircraft800 said:
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
boelze said:
Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
Aircraft800 said:
I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I would love to try this but I am unrooted. Youtube should be on the list but it is not, I am guessing that is because it comes preinstalled, the playstore app isn't there as well for example.
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
cannothas said:
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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Having exactly same problems with gmail and chrome (html5 push notifications). I am rooted. So I am considering to mark those apps as non system apps, but still not sure if this won't brake future updates or something.

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