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Handroid; Android on the Hermes.
Hi all!
Ok, first off i'd just like to say i'm not as new here as I may seem - i've been stalking round these parts for 2/3 months now. Please don't flame me for that.
My only other post was on the discussion on a possible android port to the Hermes.
I liked this idea greatly, and so I decided to start the 'Handroid' project.
The idea is simple, a full port of android to the hermes. Nothing more, nothing less.
The port will be based on the linux port to the hermes as it would be foolish to let that port rust a little more while we start a new one.
We've all seen videos of android running on other pocketpc's so it's evidently possible.
But this is where I have to ask for your help. To get this port underway quickly and efficiently we need a team. And a team means that people like yourselves that feel they could help us out in some way. Help. Or even anyone you know who might have the skills required.
Handroid now has it's own wiki up Here.(That address is only a temporary one on my blog's webspace, handroid.org will be registered soon. Also, please for goodness sake don't flame because its a Work In Progress site. It will be looking much better soon.) I would love to hear from some of you soon on the wiki, or here.
Any help or even just a few points of input (or even failing that, simply encouragement) would be greatfully recieved. However, make no mistake, if this project is to suceed we need your help. I can't do this on my own.
I really hope to speak to some of you on the team soon.
Sam
Ok we will on touch!!!
Ok men if we could find anything usefull maybe pmed you must works... nice wiki...
BTW how can you do it? i have an account there too and i dont know where to start hahaha
*flames lick feet... i think*
Ok, so I take that's the first of many flames? Or was it genuine. Some how I doubt. *sigh*
Welcome !!!!
Hi,
i appreciate this attempt of getting some attention to port some alternative OS to hermes platform. Indeed it could be done and it would be in the spirit of GPL like the openmoko people did for there mobile devices.
In fact we urgently need some brave kernel hackers to push this forward, because the base of all that android stuff is a nice working kernel.
Please have a look at this thread to get an idea of the work that has been put into this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273579
There's a lot of useful stuff
There are some barriers (arrrghh) and there are new devices drawing attention so the progress of linux port stucked a bit....
Anyway the winmob family is doing great work, so let's see how far we would come with this alternative!
Have fun,
scholbert
I am very interested and I hope I can be helpful (at least cheer leading). Though I don't know anything about the Hermes kernel, as a reverse engineer, I always hack my way out. I keep my eyes on your wiki.
Great!
Thanks for the anti-flames.... I think my feet didn't get burnt too much.
We ultimately need people with a specialism in linux driver/kernel development. However, as far as I can tell the kernel is pretty much functional, but I will check more closely later.
I'm also going to contact some developers of the other Android ports around and see if they have any advise.
Will report back soon,
Sam
Any new notice?
Anybody still working on this?
Hey all,
I'm new to the XDA forums and was wondering if I could some advice regarding ROM development on the DX. I've done some UNIX kernel work and know a fairly good amount of java as well, so I was thinking about looking into developing a ROM of my own as a side project. Can anyone direct me towards some information regarding the porting requirements needed by the DX, or possibly I could help out on another ROM to get up to speed on the process?
From what I've seen around here all ROMs for the DX are made by stripping the stock ROM of MOTO Blur, and adding a few packages that are custom or AOSP. Also, be prepared for people to tell you what to do... it seems to be the popular thing to do.
I would also love to maybe one day get into making a ROM, but I haven't seen any guides or the like for people who want to make a ROM. I would imagine it be a tad difficult.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
I haven't done any of this I just was interested and found this awhile ago.
Looking forward to see what you can come up with!
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Hey all,
I'm new to the XDA forums and was wondering if I could some advice regarding ROM development on the DX. I've done some UNIX kernel work and know a fairly good amount of java as well, so I was thinking about looking into developing a ROM of my own as a side project. Can anyone direct me towards some information regarding the porting requirements needed by the DX, or possibly I could help out on another ROM to get up to speed on the process?
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My word of advice, since there's a locked bootloader, find every kind of work around you can for performance and battery, otherwise, your rom will be like the rest.
My rom may not come with the best options and all the advanced customizations, but i'll be damned if one outperforms mine in performance at least.. on paper and in theory, anyways. lmao
Qwontum said:
Hey all,
I'm new to the XDA forums and was wondering if I could some advice regarding ROM development on the DX. I've done some UNIX kernel work and know a fairly good amount of java as well, so I was thinking about looking into developing a ROM of my own as a side project. Can anyone direct me towards some information regarding the porting requirements needed by the DX, or possibly I could help out on another ROM to get up to speed on the process?
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In addition to what drod said... Hit up @Aliasxerog on Twitter! He is currently looking for help with Linux kernel work. He has been working on a new init for the X to bypass the bootloader issue we have all grown to love! If you could give him some help, I'm sure he, along with the entire Droid X community would be forever in your debt
Shoot him a message and see what he has to say...
I can help you out if you have any questions, I am making a couple of roms for the DROID2 right now and the Dx is pretty much the same phone, just send me a pm if you need anything.
Qwontum said:
Hey all,
I'm new to the XDA forums and was wondering if I could some advice regarding ROM development on the DX. I've done some UNIX kernel work and know a fairly good amount of java as well, so I was thinking about looking into developing a ROM of my own as a side project. Can anyone direct me towards some information regarding the porting requirements needed by the DX, or possibly I could help out on another ROM to get up to speed on the process?
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I have done some basic programming in the past, but what knowledge is needed to jump into custom developing, I am not interested in developing apps per say, I am more interested in developing like Cyanogen Group and many of the awesome Devs on here making Kernals, and Custom Roms, etc. I tend to have some free time on my hands lately, and I figure, instead of waiting for everyone else to do the work, maybe I can do some work and contribute.
If you have any information, please point me in the right direction, with tips, advice, videos, and warnings.
Thank you in advance. :good:
Hey man, i too am interested in developing i use eclipse and can do quite a bit of java and im ok with debugging, if you ever have a project you want to start i would be interested in helping. watch videos on steve kondik. cm has quite a few urls. but from what ive been told is get a rom and import it into eclipse and make some changes and put your own stuff up on xda.
check out this screen shot, has the cm urls on it and the video of steve kondik who talks through tips of building cm and how to start and what it takes hope it helps
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Hey man, i too am interested in developing i use eclipse and can do quite a bit of java and im ok with debugging, if you ever have a project you want to start i would be interested in helping. watch videos on steve kondik. cm has quite a few urls. but from what ive been told is get a rom and import it into eclipse and make some changes and put your own stuff up on xda.
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twayneo said:
check out this screen shot, has the cm urls on it and the video of steve kondik who talks through tips of building cm and how to start and what it takes hope it helps
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Thank you, I will check those out. I realize this maybe way over my head, and by the time I can actually program something worthwhile on Android, there will be a Samsung S8 ... lol, but you have to start somewhere, I would like tips by those who have progressed.
I like the idea of simply editing a already made rom, this would be more like tweaking, but at least I could see some action.
maybe you can try to gather a group of 8 more developers, or people who want to learn, and you guys can all create a "circle" on google plus, and do a Google hangout where you can verbally talk with each other, ask questions, and share your desktop so others can see you working/creating a rom, so that way, all 9 of you future devs will have a visual and audio learning experience. that's the fastest/best way to learn and progress. so if you're interested, post your google plus profiles and people who are interested can post their profiles and everyone who is interested in doing this can add each other and make it happen. i personally have no interest in developing/creating roms. just throwing this great tool out there for those who are interested. Maybe a new pioneering team, will form out of this? maybe a cyanogenmod equivalent, or a team kang equivalent.
My suggestion is to learn to theme first. Theme something that isn't dependant on 9.pngs cause those are a bit more complicated. Building custom Roms is fun, but very detailed and time consuming. After you get the theming down, cut a stock Rom up a bit and theme it and presto, custom Rom. I learned from a thread by theimpaler. I think it was called, "so you want to learn to theme".
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*Please no one delete this thread! It is really important!*
Hi everyone!
I am here to tell you guys about our phone.
Yes, the title says everything; our phone is not dead!
What do you think? Just because Huawei is not supporting this phone anymore doesn't mean that our phone is dead!
Look! We have achieved great things with our knowledge! We have already have Android that wasn't given to us by Huawei:
- CM 7.2
- Aurora ICS
- MIUI
- Oxygen
- JokerROM
- and lots of others!
(Thanks to all those developers that have contributed their efforts for the sake of our phone!)
Huawei is not supporting us, but every person in our community is supporting each other.
I know we are lacking developers, but we still have great developers: DZO (he's a bit sleepy), forumber2, Blefish, MosTERRA, ezet, and anyone else I have missed!
We still have developers, but not once have I read anyone commenting anything positive about our phone. Not once anyone has told someone else that our phone is dying/dead. Always, everyone here has said our phone is finished.
Come on guys! Don't say this! Always try to say good things about our phone. By saying bad things about our phone, you are discouraging other people, and most importantly the Developers, from keeping the phone.
Please stop discouraging Developers and others! Instead, encourage others to gather knowledge and start building some ROMs!
Yes, I would encourage all of you here to start gathering knowledge about android and start building some MODs, Themes, ROMs, etc, for our phone!
NEVER AGAIN I WOULD WANT TO SEE A COMMENT THAT SAYS NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR PHONE!!!!
You're right and in general I agree with you but this sub-forum is only to post ROM's preferably tested and without bugs. You should move this to General section or ask to mods to do that. Blefish is working on CM 10 and we (non-developers) need to wait.
Cheers.
to say our phone is "dead" is not negative as i perceive it.. its just a plain fact..
in this fast-changing technology world, our phone already did its job very well..
my u8800 has just passed its 2-year mark, and though its just become my second-line support phone in this month, its still of great value to me..
(big compliment to our great developers!)
HOWEVER, the phones is already over 2 years old, and this is a very old age in technology world (and also considering its lack of official support)..
if everyone just refuses to proceed forward, we are probably still playing/flashing mods for our beloved transistor radio (if thats even possible)!
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with the above said, i do not mean to discourage any further development effort on this phone..
i actually welcome such activities very much honestly..
its just that ppl should also recognise those of us who try to move forward with newer and more powerful phones..
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Hi everyone!
I am here to tell you guys about our phone.
Yes, the title says everything; our phone is not dead!
What do you think? Just because Huawei is not supporting this phone anymore doesn't mean that our phone is dead!
Look! We have achieved great things with our knowledge! We have already have Android that wasn't given to us by Huawei:
- CM 7.2
- Aurora ICS
- MIUI
- Oxygen
- JokerROM
- and lots of others!
(Thanks to all those developers that have contributed their efforts for the sake of our phone!)
Huawei is not supporting us, but every person in our community is supporting each other.
I know we are lacking developers, but we still have great developers: DZO (he's a bit sleepy), forumber2, Blefish, MosTERRA ezet, possibly me, and anyone else I have missed!
We still have developers, but not once have I read anyone commenting anything positive about our phone. Not once anyone has told someone else that our phone is dying/dead. Always, everyone here has said our phone is finished.
Come on guys! Don't say this! Always try to say good things about our phone. By saying bad things about our phone, you are discouraging other people, and most importantly the Developers, from keeping the phone.
Please stop discouraging Developers and others! Instead, encourage others to gather knowledge and start building some ROMs!
Yes, I would encourage all of you here to start gathering knowledge about android and start building some MODs, Themes, ROMs, etc, for our phone!
NEVER AGAIN I WOULD WANT TO SEE A COMMENT THAT SAYS NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR PHONE!!!!
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So why don't you make Jelly bean ?
iamelton said:
to say our phone is "dead" is not negative as i perceive it.. its just a plain fact..
in this fast-changing technology world, our phone already did its job very well..
my u8800 has just passed its 2-year mark, and though its just become my second-line support phone in this month, its still of great value to me..
(big compliment to our great developers!)
HOWEVER, the phones is already over 2 years old, and this is a very old age in technology world (and also considering its lack of official support)..
if everyone just refuses to proceed forward, we are probably still playing/flashing mods for our beloved transistor radio (if thats even possible)
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Our main problem is the just the lack of developers as I already said before, because saying our phones is old fashioned it ain't true, for an example the Huawei Ascend G300, imo that phone is not that far away from our phone in hardware and capability (and also it was release in May of 2012), but still it already has CM9, CM10, CM10.1, thats my point of view, we can't all have the same opinion. I just don't have the skill to do such things in the Android area, if I had I would work on this awesome device.
It's not dead, but it's been on life support for a very long time, now. Blefish is the only active, transparent developer this device has going for, and even he doesn't have public releases yet and encounters numerous issues. There is no real Jellybean for this device, regardless of the fact that the hardware is capable, and so for all intents and purposes it is dead, for the time being. But that could change.
Regardless, this is a terrible thread and if you want to help you shouldn't spam this forum. There are specific forums for this sort of inane garbage.
I think it's dead anymore since we can't go through jellybean. There are only 2 person as i know who have coding knowledge;dzo and blefish.Besides we haven't seen a working wifi for jellybean both of them;so this makes the phone dead,in my view.
i think the points are quite clear now.. in android world, a phone is "dead" if there is not much active development/support for the latest updates going around (either officially or from individuals)..
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OP, just did a search and found out that u ported a xperia style rom to our phone, so that makes u a developer of this phone.. thx for the work..
(though another GB rom does not interest me that much.. )
I'd like to point out that just because I haven't released a rom does not mean I am not working on it. Just hang on as there is awesome stuff coming up!
I know I am not the fastest developer around, but I always try to do things "properly". Of which I mean I try to provide good code that would be reusable in the future.
Sent from my U8800
Would just like to clarify something
No. Our phone will never be dead, as long as we have devs working on it.
I would also like to point out something:
Just because I ported Xperia Style GB ROM, doesn't mean I have become a developer. BUT at least I am trying to build JB for our device. Yes, I have downloaded the CM10 source and have started building it. Since this is the first ever ROM I will build, which is why I am getting help from Blefish (thanks a lot Blefish. I really appreciate your efforts).
I am trying my best to keep this project going, but I have my studies and other important things (won't mention because they are personal). It is my second last year in High School, so I don't get much time (i'm sorry).
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GATHER KNOWLEDGE AND START BUILDING FOR OUR DEVICE. WE NEED AS MUCH DEVELOPERS AS POSSIBLE WORKING ON THIS DEVICE!
I know gathering the knowledge is hard, but we have the Q&A section where you can ask something whenever you are stuck. Please step forward and start working!
Thanks for understanding.:good:
rqmok said:
No. Our phone will never be dead, as long as we have devs working on it.
I would also like to point out something:
Just because I ported Xperia Style GB ROM, doesn't mean I have become a developer. BUT at least I am trying to build JB for our device. Yes, I have downloaded the CM10 source and have started building it. Since this is the first ever ROM I will build, which is why I am getting help from Blefish (thanks a lot Blefish. I really appreciate your efforts).
I am trying my best to keep this project going, but I have my studies and other important things (won't mention because they are personal). It is my second last year in High School, so I don't get much time (i'm sorry).
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GATHER KNOWLEDGE AND START BUILDING FOR OUR DEVICE. WE NEED AS MUCH DEVELOPERS AS POSSIBLE WORKING ON THIS DEVICE!
I know gathering the knowledge is hard, but we have the Q&A section where you can ask something whenever you are stuck. Please step forward and start working!
Thanks for understanding.:good:
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HD2 is dead and it still has developers.
It's not developing, it's passed on. This phone is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late phone. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If we haven't bought it , it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-phone. Capisci?
rqmok said:
No. Our phone will never be dead, as long as we have devs working on it.
I would also like to point out something:
Just because I ported Xperia Style GB ROM, doesn't mean I have become a developer. BUT at least I am trying to build JB for our device. Yes, I have downloaded the CM10 source and have started building it. Since this is the first ever ROM I will build, which is why I am getting help from Blefish (thanks a lot Blefish. I really appreciate your efforts).
I am trying my best to keep this project going, but I have my studies and other important things (won't mention because they are personal). It is my second last year in High School, so I don't get much time (i'm sorry).
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GATHER KNOWLEDGE AND START BUILDING FOR OUR DEVICE. WE NEED AS MUCH DEVELOPERS AS POSSIBLE WORKING ON THIS DEVICE!
I know gathering the knowledge is hard, but we have the Q&A section where you can ask something whenever you are stuck. Please step forward and start working!
Thanks for understanding.:good:
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ok i take back my previous recognition of u as a developer.. now you are a developer-to-be for this great phone.. (honestly, no sarcasm attached.. )
and while i think u8800 is dead, u see it as a living pal.. no problem.. case closed.. (no sarcasm, again..)
now back to business.. i would very much be happy to see a jb rom created and surely would give it a try in my u8800..
i just hope u can keep this enthusiasm and keep working on this jb-rom-to-come..
honestly speaking, having enthusiasm on something and start working on it are not that difficult.. its the persistence and patience (in dealing with obstacles) that make the difference..
good luck and hope to hear from u soon.. :good:
Blefish said:
I'd like to point out that just because I haven't released a rom does not mean I am not working on it. Just hang on as there is awesome stuff coming up!
I know I am not the fastest developer around, but I always try to do things "properly". Of which I mean I try to provide good code that would be reusable in the future.
Sent from my U8800
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Hey,
I just don't understand something so i want to ask you. I am following you on twitter and see that it is really not easy making kernel 3.4. I just want to know, wouldn't it be easier if you just use the 3.0.8 kernel that we already have and maybe tweak it a bit? 3.0.8 should work with CM10. I just don't see the point of triing so hard to make the new kernel for CM10. Let's look in the future and if you release your rom in 2 months for now there will not be so many people that would find it usefull because many of U8800 users are already switching to new devices. And in may there is coming KLP.
Thanks for clarification! :good:
rastek said:
Hey,
I just don't understand something so i want to ask you. I am following you on twitter and see that it is really not easy making kernel 3.4. I just want to know, wouldn't it be easier if you just use the 3.0.8 kernel that we already have and maybe tweak it a bit? 3.0.8 should work with CM10. I just don't see the point of triing so hard to make the new kernel for CM10. Let's look in the future and if you release your rom in 2 months for now there will not be so many people that would find it usefull because many of U8800 users are already switching to new devices. And in may there is coming KLP.
Thanks for clarification! :good:
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I understand what you are trying to say to Blefish.
I'll tell you. May it be 3.0.8 or 3.1 kernel, the story is the same: no Bluetooth and no WiFi. The 3.0.8 will need to be made compatible with CM10, but making WiFi and Bluetooth work will still won't be easy. That's why it is better to work on 3.1 kernel when you know that both kernels have the same story.
I hope you understand.
My phone is not dead!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok i understand that wifi and bt do not work with 3.0.8 and cm10, but blefish said in one thread that it is just a matter of configuration and is not nearly as hard as making a new kernel. I think blefish could make it work with 3.0.8.
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alexmbra said:
My phone is not dead!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's the spirit!!
rastek said:
Ok i understand that wifi and bt do not work with 3.0.8 and cm10, but blefish said in one thread that it is just a matter of configuration and is not nearly as hard as making a new kernel. I think blefish could make it work with 3.0.8.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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Yes, it is a matter of configuration.
All we have right now are the drivers from Aurora and the drivers from official Huawei ROMs. To make CM10, the drivers need to be taken from an older ROM and put into CM10. Now, it is not just a matter of copy-pasting. Our current drivers are not compatible with JB. Blefish has made some things working. The biggest problem is the WiFi. The old WiFi drivers need to be made compatible with CM10, and this is the hardest part. This is why there has been no one, yet, who has been able to do this.
No matter what kernel it is, may it be 3.0.8 or 3.1, the WiFi drivers need to be made compatible with CM10.
I think oguzhan mobile was able to fix the WiFi to the extent where it actually turned on, but it wouldn't scan. I don't know why he stopped development. I am not sure what kernel oguzhan mobile was using, but I think it was 3.0.8. I think you might be right that it would be easier for our phone to use the 3.0.8 kernel, but I think the 3.1 kernel would run better with CM10.1.
If you really want to know why Blefish wouldn't use 3.0.8 kernel, then you would need to Blefish himself. I have already said what I think, but I am not sure if I am right.
I am going to give it a try with 3.0.8 kernel. It might be easier than 3.1 kernel. I'll just have to find out
I like the way you talk....
Waiting for JB...
Sent from my U8800 using Tapatalk 2
Just follow @rtammekivi on Twitter if you want to know what's going on.
Phone is dead
Hello!
As you can probably see, I'm pretty new here at XDA, and I created this account because I own an Honor 8 and the hardware is awesome, but I can't stand EMUI.
I have seen some posts talking about the development for this device, and I just wanted to offer my help to speed up the development of these custom ROMS. I know quite a bit about computer science and related, but I'm new to the world of mobile phone development.
So, as I said, if any developer needs any help or can give me some directions, I'll be more than glad to help.
Have a nice day:good:
mcat95 said:
Hello!
As you can probably see, I'm pretty new here at XDA, and I created this account because I own an Honor 8 and the hardware is awesome, but I can't stand EMUI.
I have seen some posts talking about the development for this device, and I just wanted to offer my help to speed up the development of these custom ROMS. I know quite a bit about computer science and related, but I'm new to the world of mobile phone development.
So, as I said, if any developer needs any help or can give me some directions, I'll be more than glad to help.
Have a nice day:good:
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Hi, it depends on what kind of development are you interested in. There's a big difference between tweaking a kernel and modifying EMUI. Either way, you might be interested in the Honor Hub.
XePeleato said:
Hi, it depends on what kind of development are you interested in. There's a big difference between tweaking a kernel and modifying EMUI. Either way, you might be interested in the Honor Hub.
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Thanks for the response. I will check it. I have worked compiling linux kernels before, so I think it will be a good start!
XePeleato said:
Hi, it depends on what kind of development are you interested in. There's a big difference between tweaking a kernel and modifying EMUI. Either way, you might be interested in the Honor Hub.
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Anyway I can help?!