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Hey Guys,
I'm thinking about picking up a Kindle Fire mainly for couch-gaming. I love the whole rooting/hacking scene and there seems to be a lot of dev support which is essential for any android device to suceed imo, but I digress.
How does the GPU handle the newest, current 3D games? If im looking for a tablet that will hold up to newer games, would this be a good or bad choice?
For example, I'm looking to start playing Order and Chaos again. I got it working pretty flawlessly on my HTC Flyer that I used to have. Does anyone run this on their fire?
Thanks for the info
The OMAP TI 4430 and the PowerVR GX540 do really a great combo. The KF handles new games without any issue .
However, keep in mind it only supports up to two touch points at the same time.
Do you want an E reader that can play games or a full fledged tablet for entertainment? Because the KF is not a full blown tablet by any means.
Kindle Fire handles hard core 3D gaming very well. Games like Shadowgun run like silk
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All good and well what the Fire can handle but for $50 more, $250 list, you can get a full blown Android tablet in the Galaxy Tab 2 from Samsung. That 50 bucks gets you: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, GPS, a micro SDHC slot so you can add 32GB more storage, camera (admittedly not so great of one), compass and other sundry sensors. Uses the Ti OMAP dual core processor which does rather decent graphics.
Edit: I knew I forgot something as I was writing this and just remembered. A full Android device will also have Bluetooth so you can use wireless gaming controllers.
Just something to consider.
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And with the new nexus tablet coming soon, I'd wait.
bsoplinger said:
All good and well what the Fire can handle but for $50 more, $250 list, you can get a full blown Android tablet in the Galaxy Tab 2 from Samsung. That 50 bucks gets you: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, GPS, a micro SDHC slot so you can add 32GB more storage, camera (admittedly not so great of one), compass and other sundry sensors. Uses the Ti OMAP dual core processor which does rather decent graphics.
Edit: I knew I forgot something as I was writing this and just remembered. A full Android device will also have Bluetooth so you can use wireless gaming controllers.
Just something to consider.
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The issue is that most people don't pay 199 for their Kindle Fire's if they are on XDA. You can get a refurb device straight from Amazon for 139 and probably cheaper if you look on Craigslist, etc (around 100).
Kind of makes that "50 dollars more" argument turn into 120+.
Mind you, I'm not arguing the fact that for 250 you do get a full fledged tablet device in the 7" form factor. The GTab 2 is a fine device.
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Did anyone bought Kingsing W8? I got it few days ago.
This is seams to be cheapest Windows 8.1 tablet.
Basic info:
CPU Intel Baytrail-T Quad Core 1.8GHz
GPU Intel HD Graphic(Gen7)
System Windows 8.1
RAM 1GB DDR3L
Capacity 16GB
Screen 8 inch IPS Capacitive Touch Screen
Resolution 1280*800
It has great hardware for that price. Some would say that 1Gb is not enough but I have this tablet and I can say it is. Tablet is a fast, fluid. 1Gb ram on this optimized OS is enough for a tablet. Google Chrome and Internet Explorer can without any problem show all sites, games can also run smoothly. (Despicable me is working great)
All sites tell that this CPU can run on 1.8ghz but Intel Atom processor Z3735G for me works at 1.33 GHz. Is there any way to enable "turbo" or what?
Video: youtube.com/watch?v=f3BMy2DrLEY
This is my first Windows tablet and it is even faster than Android which I bought for same price- 116$.
I am glad that Windows tablet are becoming cheaper and cheaper and Kingsing W8 is working great for me.
Are there any more users here?
ag008 said:
Did anyone bought Kingsing W8? I got it few days ago.
This is seams to be cheapest Windows 8.1 tablet.
Basic info:
CPU Intel Baytrail-T Quad Core 1.8GHz
GPU Intel HD Graphic(Gen7)
System Windows 8.1
RAM 1GB DDR3L
Capacity 16GB
Screen 8 inch IPS Capacitive Touch Screen
Resolution 1280*800
It has great hardware for that price. Some would say that 1Gb is not enough but I have this tablet and I can say it is. Tablet is a fast, fluid. 1Gb ram on this optimized OS is enough for a tablet. Google Chrome and Internet Explorer can without any problem show all sites, games can also run smoothly. (Despicable me is working great)
All sites tell that this CPU can run on 1.8ghz but Intel Atom processor Z3735G for me works at 1.33 GHz. Is there any way to enable "turbo" or what?
Video: youtube.com/watch?v=f3BMy2DrLEY
This is my first Windows tablet and it is even faster than Android which I bought for same price- 116$.
I am glad that Windows tablet are becoming cheaper and cheaper and Kingsing W8 is working great for me.
Are there any more users here?
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yes, i see gizchina has reported that this is the cheapest windows 8.1 quad core smartphone at $100, i guess it's official price, not for reseller, and also know good news that Kingsing s2 and Kingsing W8 has a giveaway activity from 1949deal. See here: h ttp://goo.gl/RttCym , i guess it has no ram 2gb version now. Maybe in the near future.
This looks like a better deal, not sure if it is a scam, though. At least it is from aliexpress, so you should get your money back.
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/204241...042418613&tracelog=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail
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433Mhz said:
This looks like a better deal, not sure if it is a scam, though. At least it is from aliexpress, so you should get your money back.
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This is the lastest Onda model, I already have one.
Onda V975W thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt/general/onda-v975w-9-7-qhd-intel-z3735d-quad-t2892998
I got one 2GB RAM and 32GB storage from China with US$115.
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please help me. I need drivers for this tablet. you can make a backup of windows 8.1 or backup drivers ?
and write the link to download...
Just ordered one of these out of curiosity, will let you guys know what I think of it once it arrives in about 18 days!
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Best, cheap 8-inch Windows Tablet's the TW801. Hands down.
I picked up the TW801 from MicroCenter open Box for $118. Best $118 I ever spent. It's got a reliable HDMI-out, a Full-sized USB 3.0, 3.5mm headphone jack, and a miniUSB for charging (and you can also use it for data, I tried).
I run Fedora 17 (I'm in a Linux 101 course at my community college) using VMware while running Chrome and Amazon Kindle all at the same time while taking notes in Chrome--and I use a Motorola Lapdock for a second screen. This thing runs absolutely brilliantly. Only downside is the pathetic battery life. But for about $120, it blows the Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo Miix2 8-inch and the rest of the 8-inch tablets (for me) way out of the water. I've been able to play 1080p videos on a 60hz TV with minimal stutter at the beginning and smooth sailing from then on (using YouTube). I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem watching anything else, either. If the Venue 8 Pro can handle games, this one probably can too, though the only thing I tried on it was Second Life, haha, and that ran decent.
If you're in the market for a cheap 8-inch with HDMI AND a full-sized USB 3.0 slot, nothing quite touches this little guy. Here's some specs.
CPU Baytrail-TZ3735D, 1.33GHz Normal (1.8 GHz Turbo Mode)
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Storage
EMMC (it's soldered on, sadly) 32GB, and a MicroSD card slot up to either 64GB of 128GB (the advertising is misleading in store and on the website, and on Amazon... I haven't tested it myself)
RAM
2GB DDR3
Display
8" IPS LCD, 1280x800, 16:10 Widescreen
5-Point Multi-Touch
Cameras
Front (2MP) Back (2MP)
Stereo speakers on one side on the back
They're actually... pretty decent.
Msc
Integrated Microphone, 3.5mm Microphone Jack
No GPS
WiFi (802.11b/g/n), Bluetooth 4.0,
I/O
1 x Micro USB 2.0
1 x USB 3.0
1 x SD (SDHC/SDXC)
1 x Micro HDMI
1 x 3.5mm Audio Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack
Battery
POWER
Battery
1 Cell Lithium Polymer Battery
AC Adapter
10W 5V 2A 100-250V/50-60Hz
My sad Kingsing W8
I've bought this tablet since 2 weeks ago and it was great... But now it won’t turn on anymore. I guess it happened after some auto updates installed. Do you have any idea....? Thanks.
Ryou_Concord said:
I picked up the TW801 from MicroCenter open Box for $118. Best $118 I ever spent. It's got a reliable HDMI-out, a Full-sized USB 3.0, 3.5mm headphone jack, and a miniUSB for charging (and you can also use it for data, I tried).
I run Fedora 17 (I'm in a Linux 101 course at my community college) using VMware while running Chrome and Amazon Kindle all at the same time while taking notes in Chrome--and I use a Motorola Lapdock for a second screen. This thing runs absolutely brilliantly. Only downside is the pathetic battery life. But for about $120, it blows the Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo Miix2 8-inch and the rest of the 8-inch tablets (for me) way out of the water. I've been able to play 1080p videos on a 60hz TV with minimal stutter at the beginning and smooth sailing from then on (using YouTube). I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem watching anything else, either. If the Venue 8 Pro can handle games, this one probably can too, though the only thing I tried on it was Second Life, haha, and that ran decent.
If you're in the market for a cheap 8-inch with HDMI AND a full-sized USB 3.0 slot, nothing quite touches this little guy. Here's some specs.
CPU Baytrail-TZ3735D, 1.33GHz Normal (1.8 GHz Turbo Mode)
Microsoft Windows 8.1
Storage
EMMC (it's soldered on, sadly) 32GB, and a MicroSD card slot up to either 64GB of 128GB (the advertising is misleading in store and on the website, and on Amazon... I haven't tested it myself)
RAM
2GB DDR3
Display
8" IPS LCD, 1280x800, 16:10 Widescreen
5-Point Multi-Touch
Cameras
Front (2MP) Back (2MP)
Stereo speakers on one side on the back
They're actually... pretty decent.
Msc
Integrated Microphone, 3.5mm Microphone Jack
No GPS
WiFi (802.11b/g/n), Bluetooth 4.0,
I/O
1 x Micro USB 2.0
1 x USB 3.0
1 x SD (SDHC/SDXC)
1 x Micro HDMI
1 x 3.5mm Audio Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack
Battery
POWER
Battery
1 Cell Lithium Polymer Battery
AC Adapter
10W 5V 2A 100-250V/50-60Hz
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Lucky you. In europe you can't buy that tablet i found it on internet. And was like woow i want. But imposible to buy here. Yes for like 220euro way to overpriced.
But yeah realy nice tablet for that price witg full usb 3.0
The 5-Point Multi-Touch is a weak point of this tablet.
Well after an interminable wait, largely due to US customs sitting on it for 8 days, the W8 finally arrived last week. After 6 days of using it I am more than impressed. Very responsive, and certainly fast enough for the sort of things you do on tablets. The cameras aren't too impressive but that isn't a priority for me. Using a full windows desktop on an 8" widescreen is a bit of an interesting experience but you can do it. I think I'll pick up stylus as my fingers ain't all that dainty! Battery life isn't stellar but it is no worse than my nook HD+, and the display is a whole lot better than the nook's. Overall worth the $116 and quite pleased with my purchase.
W8 Windows version?
Does anyone know the exact Windows version that these tablets use?
I have one that has a standard Win 8 install but the touch is not operational.
The touch is working as it operates when I did the recovery process, so I am assuming that it just doesnt have the correct version installed
Any ideas?
So the Nexus 9 is supposed to have a 64 bit Tegra K1, anyone else find it anoying that the Shield wasnt released with this?
The Shield was released in July, looks like the Nexus 9 will be released in November. Maybe wasn't ready in time?
The nexus Won't be 64 bit.
It remains to be seen whether Nvidia's CPU architecture in the Denver is up to snuff, given they're using an architecture that hasn't really been successfully implemented in the past (in order compiling). I'd wait until devices with it are in users hands before feeling disappointed in the lack of the 64-bit K1 in our Shields.
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The nexus Won't be 64 bit.
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check again
http://www.google.com/nexus/9/
USBhost said:
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http://www.google.com/nexus/9/
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It is 399 for a 16gb with NO MicroSD slot though or 499 for one with NO MicroSD slot still
USBhost said:
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http://www.google.com/nexus/9/
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Looks like I was wrong, but with only 2GB of RAM it is not going to be a noticeable improve over other K1 devices. Seems more like a beta test to me than an actually full 64bit use case.
ShrekOpher said:
Looks like I was wrong, but with only 2GB of RAM it is not going to be a noticeable improve over other K1 devices. Seems more like a beta test to me than an actually full 64bit use case.
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how can something be half. its either 32 vs 64
But if you look at the newer apple products they are 64 and only have 1GB of RAM
USBhost said:
how can something be half. its either 32 vs 64
But if you look at the newer apple products they are 64 and only have 1GB of RAM
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The main point of using 64bit is to be able to properly take advantage of systems that have more than 4GB of RAM.
There are benefits to having a 64bit system besides that, but in all reality they will not even be notifiable on a machine with only 2GB of RAM.
Basically Giggle is using the Nexus 9 to pilot 64bit Android and allow devs to build apps for that new setup. And end user will not recognize the difference until there are phone/tablets/android laptops with more than 4GB of RAM.
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I think it has 4GB
ShrekOpher said:
The main point of using 64bit is to be able to properly take advantage of systems that have more than 4GB of RAM.
There are benefits to having a 64bit system besides that, but in all reality they will not even be notifiable on a machine with only 2GB of RAM.
Basically Giggle is using the Nexus 9 to pilot 64bit Android and allow devs to build apps for that new setup. And end user will not recognize the difference until there are phone/tablets/android laptops with more than 4GB of RAM.
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I was on flipboard a while ago and I'm sure I read that the nexus 9 will have 4GB not 2GB. I didnt like that since I just got my shield tablet, but games are super fast with no lag so I will not complain to much
Moeali8 said:
I was on flipboard a while ago and I'm sure I read that the nexus 9 will have 4GB not 2GB. I didnt like that since I just got my shield tablet, but games are super fast with no lag so I will not complain to much
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Well rumors are just that. Google on their own page is touting 2 gb of ram so there's no difference there between that and the shield tablet. Supposedly the denver core K1 though will be an emulation MONSTER its an in order processor, but it is 7x superscalar. Since pretty much all emulation is single threaded the hope is that it will be able to run the dolphin emulator with decent framerates on a tablet. All in all i'm glad I chose the shield, at 399 for 32 gb and lte I think its a very competitive price. Sure the nexus 9 has a larger screen and higher resolution, but i like the 8" form factor i wouldn't be able to fit anything else in my pocket. We probably won't see a whole lot of apps that truly are optimized for 64 bit instruction set for a while, until it becomes the norm. Also the expandable memory and the stylus are pretty awesome. I do wonder though if Nvidia is going to make available Half-Life 2 and Portal to the nexus 9, IMO they'd be foolish not to. Also Gamestream and Shield Controller support is something that I think they should offer support for with all their OEMs that use thier SOC's but i really doubt that will happen.
RAM is not the main reason to use 64-bit processors. That's only one of many benefits.
However, the N9 will not have a great benefit. Currently there is more out there that supports Quad-Core more than it supports 64-bit. The architecture does offer multiple benefits, but it really won't help much currently.
Also to note, the N9 will be a DUAL-CORE K1. Nvidia calls it a "Dual Super Core", but when you break it down... It's a dual-core SoC.
Maybe in a year or two we might see some real world improvements that the N9 gets over the Shield Tablet, but currently they'll be nearly identical.
It offers 64-bit, but lacks a number of K1 benefits (as has been stated above). For the price and what you get, the Shield Tablet wins out any day over the N9.
Also, anyone that thinks the main reason for 64-bit is to be able to recognize 4+GB of RAM... Please do some research. There are SO MANY other, more important advances. RAM is only a small piece of a very large puzzle for 64-bit architecture.
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livinonnoslp said:
Well rumors are just that. Google on their own page is touting 2 gb of ram so there's no difference there between that and the shield tablet. Supposedly the denver core K1 though will be an emulation MONSTER its an in order processor, but it is 7x superscalar. Since pretty much all emulation is single threaded the hope is that it will be able to run the dolphin emulator with decent framerates on a tablet. All in all i'm glad I chose the shield, at 399 for 32 gb and lte I think its a very competitive price. Sure the nexus 9 has a larger screen and higher resolution, but i like the 8" form factor i wouldn't be able to fit anything else in my pocket. We probably won't see a whole lot of apps that truly are optimized for 64 bit instruction set for a while, until it becomes the norm. Also the expandable memory and the stylus are pretty awesome. I do wonder though if Nvidia is going to make available Half-Life 2 and Portal to the nexus 9, IMO they'd be foolish not to. Also Gamestream and Shield Controller support is something that I think they should offer support for with all their OEMs that use thier SOC's but i really doubt that will happen.
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I agree and I'm happy with my wifi only, wish they had a 32gb wifi option not just the lte but the external sd card works
The shield tablet has a magnesium plate to cool the cpu for no throttling the nexus 9 will not have this and will throttle and lag in games like hell.
rubene66 said:
The shield tablet has a magnesium plate to cool the cpu for no throttling the nexus 9 will not have this and will throttle and lag in games like hell.
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My dear friend
the whole tablet will cool it down
you know its metal
The borders is metal the rest is plastic
USBhost said:
My dear friend
the whole tablet will cool it down
you know its metal
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rubene66 said:
The shield tablet has a magnesium plate to cool the cpu for no throttling the nexus 9 will not have this and will throttle and lag in games like hell.
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Is this really true?
Let's just wait for the reviews anandtech test well that we will see.
tyvar1 said:
Is this really true?
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tyvar1 said:
Is this really true?
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It's true that the shield is built with a large magnesium heat plate designed by Nvidia for optimal heat displacement. I would guess they probably worked with HTC some too though.
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Hopefully with Lollipop SD card restrictions previously applied by Apple, I mean Google, in KitKat will be lifted.
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
mejdam said:
with amazon continue need to block root and a locked bootloader. I was wondering how many of you dont want to deal with the cat and mouse game and just get a Nexus Player instead.
http://www.google.com/intl/all/nexus/player/
Nexus Player
Processor: 1.8GHz Quad Core, Intel® Atom™
Imagination PowerVR Series 6 Graphics 2D/3D Engine
Wireless: 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO)
Memory: 1GB
Storage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
Output Resolution: 1920×1080 at 60fps
USB: Micro USB Port
Ethernet Port: NONE
Fire TV
Processor: Qualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz
Qualcomm Adreno 320
Wireless: Supports 802.11a/b/g/n
Memory: 2GB
Storeage: 8GB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Output Resoultion: 720p and 1080p up to 60fps
USB: USB Port
Ethernet Port: 10/100
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
Time will Tell
I'm curious to see how the nexus player develops
but right now I'm satisfied with the firetv I got XBMC on there and all my repos
so right now I'm good
I agreed, It probably locked bootloader and unless Google changed their mind letting us have a unlock bootloader = addicted flasher custom ROM. I might email some google developers and see what their response regard the bootloader status.
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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You can be 100% sure this thing will be locked down just as hard as the Fire TV. Just look at the Chromecast.
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100% sure? Google TV and Chrome products have been locked down. ChromeBook and Chromecast. This device is called a Nexus, and i cant name one Nexus device that is locked down. Even my nexus q was easily unlocked!!! Even though i can see them locking the device i disagree with the level of certainty you have (100%)
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While the idea of a stock google variation interface is appealing, the less ram, lack of hardwire ethernet and even less buttons on remote make it a significantly less attractive candidate IMO for XBMC, I'll stay with my fire TV (especially since I'm lucky enough to have 3 of them with root and CWM already w/blocked updates)
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Less Ram: Good point, but one of the android forums mention this wont be a problem with the intel chip. Time will tell.
lack of hardwire ethernet: the fire tv has FastEthernet which is limited by 100, Wireless N gives fastethernet a run for its money and this device supports AC. Way faster than fastethernet.
I will be giving it a shot I think. Need an extra unit for the bedroom TV anyway. Will wait to see if it is rootable first though I think
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Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
retroben said:
Fire TV:2GB of RAM
Fine and dandy,but qualcomm sux for Reicast and Dolphin Emulator.
Also reboots when heavy 3D "three js" games are played. (it was an HD 3D racing game in three js)
New Google:1GB RAM
Not enough RAM so,it sux (if more than FTV original price),nuff said.
Graphics unknown status by Dolphin Emulator devs,does it handle Reicast?
What use is x86 for Wine to run Windows programs like PJ64 when you have a crappy limit of 1GB RAM?
Where is Google's Android TV with Nvidia Tegra K1 people were promised?
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This is only one device released by google, nvidia could release their own android tv device along with htc, samsung, acer, asus, motorla, hisense.... Etc... Even though i doubt nvidia will release a box since they already sell an nvidia shield tablet (which doesnt support dts pass through). Even though im sticking with my firetv i am interested to see others join. Especially if this pushes amazon to properly support vc1, 24p, 4k, dts-hd/truehd, 802.11ac.
I don't think you guys are remembering exactly what "Nexus" means. It means do whatever you want to the device.
Yes the Nexus 7 was locked but they made it easy to unlock for us to mod. The whole nexus line is the play ground line if you want to mod and have fun with your device.
I for one am going to be jumping ship because quite frankly, Amazon has, and always will be, absolutely garbage when it comes to making anything interface related. Their app sucks, their web interface sucks, their amazon fire TV interface sucks, everything they design is garbage when it comes to UI.
I've had a blast with this device but with them locking it down...no bueno.
As per the wireless worry, it's 5GHz AC. If you're doing anything that's going to be able to tax THAT, having an ethernet cable isn't going to save you.
Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Ehh if its update blocked and rooted... Then its not locked down,right
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Not exactly. Bootloader is still locked.
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
retroben said:
Despite my hatred of the small RAM size...
Since Nexus Player is x86 and it has an Intel Atom chipset,does that mean it utilizes the Houdini processing for running arm apps in the x86 architecture?
Still sucks because of crappy limit of RAM.
I saw that the price is going to be $99 like the Fire TV's original price.
Make a 2GB RAM version of Nexus Player for an extra $20.00 to make it more appealing.
Heck,replace them all with 2GB RAM for only $10.00 more cost.
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1 GB is fine. Unlike phones we wont be multi-tasking as much. The Nexus Player will mostly only worry about the active application which is why 1 GB will be fine. As for the CPU its an Inel Atom which has been shown to run as fast as a Snapdragon 801, for comparison sakes the FireTV uses a Snapdragon 600.
Its not exciting enough for me to jump over to it. My AFTV is doing everything i need right now, not to mention the lack of ethernet is a deal breaker. Unless wireless AC has come down quite a bit in the last few months, Im not ready to make that move.
Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to have to really WOW me to get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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Will have to wait and see how the Nexus Player performs. But one major drawback I see already is the limited storage just like FireTV but no true USB socket. Why would i want to mess with a OTG cable even before having to deal with a USB Hub or just a USB device. MicroUSB on a phone is fine. But on one of of this devices is stingy. The Nexus Player is going to really WOW me get me over the lack of a regular USB socket.
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the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
nhumber said:
the specs are really irrelevant, this is the first entry into the android TV market (besides the ADT-1) sure, this box is specd a tad low and surely isnt going to be an enthusiasts dream machine, but im sure we arent going to see google release anything else anyways, what i do think well see is all the manufacturers incorporating android TV into their own players in the very near future (think a high specs "Samsung Galaxy Player" or something like "Sony Xperia Player") and if google is successful with their play services like music and video on demand like im sure they will be i think within the next year or so many TVs and things will be running android TV on them also. should be an exciting year for people who like android stb setups. they kinda failed before with googleTV or whatever it was but i think the timing is right this time and "android TV" is going to be the next big thing for internet media on demand lovers everywhere.
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Would love to see one with OTA Antenna & PVR built in. Would be the perfect machine. For now a rooted FireTV will be the best for the price.
I'll wait for the actual user reviews to start showing up before I make a final decision, but at this point I'm leaning toward no. The biggest drawback to the FireTV for me is lack of storage. 8G is just not enough, I will not buy another FTV game until an official firmware update includes support for USB drives. Just a wild guess, but I suspect the Nexus Player has this same limitation. I'm willing to wait a bit longer and pay a bit more for a different Android TV box with better specs and hardware support.
Hey guys, I just wanna know if it's way slightly faster that has already being compared to the Fire TV Stick 2nd gen with 32-bit processor and performance. Especially with Fire TV 1st gen and Fire TV Stick 1st gen that are 32-bit processor and performance too. Can you explain this, please? Cause I just wanna see the details for what's going on with the specs that has been released in 4 months ago.
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Hey guys, I just wanna know if it's way slightly faster that has already being compared to the Fire TV Stick 2nd gen with 32-bit processor and performance. Especially with Fire TV 1st gen and Fire TV Stick 1st gen that are 32-bit processor and performance too. Can you explain this, please? Cause I just wanna see the details for what's going on with the specs that has been released in 4 months ago.
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https://developer.amazon.com/de/docs/fire-tv/device-specifications.html?v=ftvcube
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-cube-benchmarks-faster-than-the-fire-tv-3-but-with-a-catch/
Quad core ARM Cortex-A53 CPU up to 1.5GHz. Supports 32-bit apps.
Ever heard of "Google"?
Well, yes I have. And also, like I'm gonna say it again in a different way than the same, is there a CPU with 64-bit that's inside and uses 32-bit apps as well?
zakaboy2000 said:
Well, yes I have. And also, like I'm gonna say it again in a different way than the same, is there a CPU with 64-bit that's inside and uses 32-bit apps as well?
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32-bit
I know a bit of an old thread, but since I'm looking at some amazon fire tvs.
fire tv (gen 2) (note latest is gen 3) - Amazon AFTS (Android 5.1.1, API 22) - arm64-v8a
fire tv stick 4k (latest mar 2019) - Amazon AFTMM (Android 7.1.2, API 25) - armeabi-v7a
fire tv cube (latest mar 2019) - Amazon AFTA (Android 7.1.2, API 25) - armeabi-v7a
I'm surprised the older device that can't have OS upgraded is the arm64 bit arch!
tigglet said:
I know a bit of an old thread, but since I'm looking at some amazon fire tvs.
fire tv (gen 2) (note latest is gen 3) - Amazon AFTS (Android 5.1.1, API 22) - arm64-v8a
fire tv stick 4k (latest mar 2019) - Amazon AFTMM (Android 7.1.2, API 25) - armeabi-v7a
fire tv cube (latest mar 2019) - Amazon AFTA (Android 7.1.2, API 25) - armeabi-v7a
I'm surprised the older device that can't have OS upgraded is the arm64 bit arch!
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If you look at the actual specs themselves, the SOCs for the 3rd Gen TV, Cube and the 4k Stick are 64-bit.
The OS/API itself is limited to 32-bit.
One explanation: https://androidpctv.com/comparative-mediatek-mt8695/
One can Google for more sources.
I think Amazon did this intentionally, so they didn't have to maintain an OS for two different architectures. Once they depreciate/discontinue the 2nd Gen Fire TV Stick, I bet they will migrate the entire Fire TV OS to 64-bit.