Quick question about root status and bootloader - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers

Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!

Anyoneee

aholeinthewor1d said:
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If you get one now it'll have marshmallow on it and will be rootable using the engboot method. If you do so be sure to install the fixes and mods available here on xda. I would rather have a pixel personally.

Root method not really good. Bootloader is locked. Not worth rooting on this phone in my opinion. I had a lot of issues even after tweaking and following some guides. This was before the 2 roms were released though i haven't tried those out.
I'm on stock nougat beta also and i love it.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!
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I love my S7. I've rooted and unrooted. Currently I've updated it to Nougat with the Update.zip. It's running beautifully!
But I got a Pixel for my wife, and I would trade mine for hers any day of the week.
I've never gotten a phone wet, so that wouldn't be a concern for me.

I had an S7 before getting my Pixel and unfortunately for me I NEED root. The S7 root method is FAR from perfect and it just affects the phones performance and battery life too much so I went with the Pixel instead where I can have root and an unlocked bootloader. The S7 by itself is a great phone, and if I didn't need root I would have kept it but if you are like me and want/need root then I'd keep the Pixel.

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[Q] upgrade to 4??

im still using the s2 ive been due an upgrade for about 3 months now but cant decide to go for the s4 or wait for the s5,
do you think its worth waiting for the s5
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grakon said:
im still using the s2 ive been due an upgrade for about 3 months now but cant decide to go for the s4 or wait for the s5,
do you think its worth waiting for the s5
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Only you can decide that. Look up the proposed features of the S5 and then see what the S4 offers and make a decision. I would wait until it is definitely known what the specs and features of the S5 will be because it's just speculation now. Also, do as much reading as possible. Just about any possible question about the S4 has been asked and answered, just use the search function to find those answers.
One more thing. If you wait for the S5, wait until the developers edition or GE edition is released. Maybe even get the International S5 version if it is proven to work with AT&T LTE (which it should). DO not get the carrier branded version unless locked bootloaders and bloat is what you are looking for. Also, look into the KNOX issues to see if it further cripples the phones ability to be customized. If it does, you will probably be better going with another brand. But, like I said, you need to read and decide for yourself. Good luck.
Personally I don't think it's worth the wait. As for the s4 it's a good phone but there are other great phones out at the moment. If I was in your shoes I would consider the nexus 5 HTC one and LG g2 as alternative options. There is the note 3 but that depends on if your willing to carry a 5.7 inch screen with you.
Also now that I've had the s4 for a while I honestly got bored with it. I was hoping 4.3 would breath life back into it but it's just about the same. As for safestrap it helped but shortly got bored with ROMs and went back to stock. For my next upgrade I'll try another brand.
interesting replys thanks for that seems like i got a bit of reading to
i was thinking of going for the s5 cause ive been more than happy with the s2 for the last 2 years and i would imagine the s5 when its released will be a full spec phone
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interesting replys thanks for that seems like i got a bit of reading to
i was thinking of going for the s5 cause ive been more than happy with the s2 for the last 2 years and i would imagine the s5 when its released will be a full spec phone
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The future of flashing custom Roms is getting harder with new phones coming out so keep that in mind, if you don't mind not flashing custom Roms than the s5 would be a great phone.
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Stay far away from the official ATT S4, they locked this phone down so tight, no custom Recovery, no flashing fresh new ROM's. It totally sucks, and is a very disturbing trend from ATT. Even the new Note 3 got the shaft Development on the ATT Note 3 is NONEXISTENT.
Even though I do love my S4, great smartphone, but if you get an MF3, or MJ9 version, your screwed.
If you got the cash, and want an S4, get the Google Play Edition, or find an International S4 on eBay.
I sure hope ATT isn't going to continue this in the future, locking down all new phones, and killing development ?
At least the ATT HTC One is totally developer friendly, it can be rooted, recovery, and S-Off no problem.
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Probably best served if all future discussion goes here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433789

Just bought a VZW DE Moto X!

I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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I made the switch from an at&t gs4 on mk2 using safestrap to flash Roms. Got tired of always flashing and setting up. Got this and got it rooted with gravity box, greenify. Don't really need the ROM ing on this phone. But I got a regular att not the DE
MOTO X Slapped
StiM_AddiCt said:
I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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Just moved to a moto x DE from a verizon droid maxx that was stuck on 4.4 unrooted. Honestly, i wanted the droid maxx DE, but it was out of stock and i had the money now.
Only have had it for a couple days, but im really liking the size of the device. was kinda hesitant coming from the maxx, but it feels so good im my hands. I find that im not streching to reach the notification shade, and that the phone isnt sticking out the top of my shirt pocket when im working.
Another vote for Stock + xposed = no need to ROM. Wanted the dev edition so that i can always root no matter what update they throw at us.
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Just moved to a moto x DE from a verizon droid maxx that was stuck on 4.4 unrooted. Honestly, i wanted the droid maxx DE, but it was out of stock and i had the money now.
Only have had it for a couple days, but im really liking the size of the device. was kinda hesitant coming from the maxx, but it feels so good im my hands. I find that im not streching to reach the notification shade, and that the phone isnt sticking out the top of my shirt pocket when im working.
Another vote for Stock + xposed = no need to ROM. Wanted the dev edition so that i can always root no matter what update they throw at us.
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Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
StiM_AddiCt said:
Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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Xposed with the Gravity Box module at a minimum. The rest depends on your needs. I also have the Moto Tether module.
Another benefit of the Dev Edition is to more easily flash ROMs down the road, when Moto/Lenovo stops supporting the device and releasing updates. Right now I have no interest in going off stock, but 2 years from now, that may change if I am stuck on Android 4.5 or whatever and 5.x has been out for a year.
StiM_AddiCt said:
Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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i ran a s3 for a year before switching over and i can agree i froze TW from the start and installed a diffrent launcher. but i am happy to say even the stock launcher on this phone is great.
here is some of the stuff i have done
root
xposed
titanium backup
freeze all apps i dont use
greenify
new launcher
battery state read just incase something is draining the battery
i get about 1day 4hr on a full charge.
Root
Xposed; Modules: Gravity Box, Youtube ad-away, moto tether, root cloak, preference injector
Root enabled file explorer, I use Solid Explorer
Thats what im using so far, just got my DE 2 days ago, so im still getting settled in.
I also plan on flashing the image to get rid of the unlocked bootloader warning message that shows prior to the boot animation, but thats not really a big deal to me
I had a Verizon S4 on MK2. I will never buy another samsung phone in my lifetime, unless they decide to get rid of touchwiz... HA, right. Right now, I currently have a VZW DE Moto X I picked up on Swappa for about 390. It took 2 days to get here, and it is great. I do not miss my S4 one little bit. I even have it up for sale on Swappa but I'm not trying to advertise so I won't go into further detail on that. I love the Moto X, but I'm worried to take it out of the house xD.
Another former touchwiz convert here ... Came from Verizon Note 3 (had Note 2 prior to it) and while I wasn't overly thrilled about TW, I didn't mind it on the Note series (my first devices with TW).
Loved my N2 in every way, but the N3 (for me) sucked as a phone - bad quality, dropped calls and constant data drops/in and out of 4G etc
Decided to take advantage of the Moto sales and grabbed a DE X ... Of course I was concerned about the significant size difference, but after a week or so with the x I was hooked! Sold N3 and haven't regretted it at all.
Also agree with others as far as ROM's go .. No need IMO. Get Xposed and Gravity Box and you're golden!
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Well both my DE and Black/White Bumper have shipped. Inter-webs say they will be here Tuesday. I shall turn on the Moto X and see if it needs to update to 4.4 and then check it out to ensure I am safe to port my number over. My phone is through a corporate account and is a pain in the ass to switch lol.
I've had the captivate, S2, S3, and Note 3. I always flashed custom ROMs because I hated TW so much. I bought the GSM DE, and feel no need to flash any custom ROM. For the first time, I'm completely happy with stock. Now, a custom kernel is another thing all together. Lol
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Another Verizon Samsung gs4 convert. I came from Sprint before complaining about the previous few generations of HTC evo phones and I had no idea how much worse Samsung had messed up the android experience (especially with the way Verizon locks down the phone). Whomever is responsible for the abomination that is touchwiz should be flogged.
I've got the vzw de x and so far haven't seen a reason to ROM it.

Let's Talk Root!

I know the phone won't be out until the 23rd (despite heavy argument from a certain bunch that still think the 17th is the release date for verizon based on what "their reps told them"). Looks like the S5 and the Note 3 on the latest builds have no root and require flashing an older kernel to root the phone. Seems like that trend is going to carry over to the Note 4 with the exception of us not having an older kernel to flash and root. So any talks within the community about a bounty or new root method being developed? Let's get the chatter going early so we don't have to wait 3-6 months after release date like the Note 3. I'm going to miss my record button during phone calls =(
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I know the phone won't be out until the 23rd (despite heavy argument from a certain bunch that still think the 17th is the release date for verizon based on what "their reps told them"). Looks like the S5 and the Note 3 on the latest builds have no root and require flashing an older kernel to root the phone. Seems like that trend is going to carry over to the Note 4 with the exception of us not having an older kernel to flash and root. So any talks within the community about a bounty or new root method being developed? Let's get the chatter going early so we don't have to wait 3-6 months after release date like the Note 3. I'm going to miss my record button during phone calls =(
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I have 3 S5's and 2 Note 3's all on the latest build.
They are all rooted.
Thats good new. Can you still run free hotspot?
god, i'm going to so need root. between ad away and being able to uses mobile hotspot and titanium backup, ugh. I can't imagine an ad filled phone. lol
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I will smash this phone into the ground if it doesn't get root.
Tmobile Note 4 has root currently. Unfortunately it trips the Knox counter in the process.
Adaway is a must, I used my wifes phone and has no idea how many ads there actually where
I am treating the delay as a positive, since if root is not available for US models, I will not get the N4. Need root to allow external storage writes and do NOT trust Google that they will leave the function enabled in Lollipop. Not the slightest.
If no root, will stay with the S4 32GB a while longer, but still a fine device that is rooted and I do have card writes enabled.
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Thats good new. Can you still run free hotspot?
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Dont know, I added the $10 hotspot to my account.
Im on an enterprise account so the features and rates are a bit different.
SirVilhelm said:
Thats good new. Can you still run free hotspot?
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No offense since just asking. Why is it good news for devices not the N4 being rooted since this thread would inherently be for the N4?
The S4, S5 and N3 all are easy to root, but other than a trend, does not mean much for the N4 (besides not a negative trend)
Forgot about needing adaway. Another reason to have root!
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No offense since just asking. Why is it good news for devices not the N4 being rooted since this thread would inherently be for the N4?
The S4, S5 and N3 all are easy to root, but other than a trend, does not mean much for the N4 (besides not a negative trend)
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Because we assume that the S5 and N4 are going to be very similar on the software side. If the S5 has root there is a very good possibility that the N4 will also get root. Not guaranteed but good chance.
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No offense since just asking. Why is it good news for devices not the N4 being rooted since this thread would inherently be for the N4?
The S4, S5 and N3 all are easy to root, but other than a trend, does not mean much for the N4 (besides not a negative trend)
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The S4, S5, and N3 are not easy to root.
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Because we assume that the S5 and N4 are going to be very similar on the software side. If the S5 has root there is a very good possibility that the N4 will also get root. Not guaranteed but good chance.
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Eventually maybe. It's important to keep in mind that the note 4 uses a 3.10 Linux kernel while all previous phones (s4, s5, n3) used 3.4 Linux kernel. Meaning if a new exploit for S5 is found it doesn't mean it would work for the Note 4 while it's likely to work on s4, and note 3.
looks like the tmobile note 4 already has root. I hope that same method works for verizon
How did they root the TM? I am curious if Towel Root will root the Note4 since it roots so many different phones including the Note3.
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How did they root the TM? I am curious if Towel Root will root the Note4 since it roots so many different phones including the Note3.
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Towel root won't root the note 4 it hasn't had a update since June it's no longer supported and has been patch with newer kernels. As for t-mobile it was root by Chainfire who is very popular for finding root methods for us.
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Towel root won't root the note 4 it hasn't had a update since June it's no longer supported and has been patch with newer kernels. As for t-mobile it was root by Chainfire who is very popular for finding root methods for us.
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He'll probably do it for the VZW as well. I can live with just root and since Hashcode quit Safestrap I'm sure root will be all it will get.
I don't mind TW.
Might be time to look at the Nexus again.
Sure no one knows at this point, but would it be best to ignore any updates that come out (I know I am glad I did not take any with my note 2 as I was lucky to get my phone unlocked with the release version). Another question I have is once its rooted how hard is it to keep root after updates?
Wyatt W
Chainfire unlocking VZW Note 4
MichaelMcC said:
He'll probably do it for the VZW as well. I can live with just root and since Hashcode quit Safestrap I'm sure root will be all it will get.
I don't mind TW.
Might be time to look at the Nexus again.
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He says in his post he won't -- the VZW locked Bootloader makes the phone brick when rooted. No one has ever gotten past the bootloader for the Note 3 yet! Hopefully a Developer version lurks...
There is an OTA already. I wonder if it will make rooting harder. Does anyone know if chainfire has started to try to root our N4?
Sure hope that is not the case, because I don't see me giving up my note 2 until this one is root-able. I am actually seriously considering cancelling my pre-order (which is full price to keep my UDP) and all my accessories that have yet to ship. Basically everything that I really care to do with my phone is somewhere tied into me being able to use xposed modules, wireless tether, etc...

anybody have a nexus 6p thinking about going to the s8+?

development and support are a lot different, but the dimensions are almost the same for a bigger screen. Thinking about getting the s8+ but the whole nexus google like getting updates right away without any problems and the changelog for the latest magisk kinda scared me. saying that the last magisk before 12.0 update broke a bunch of samsung phones. :S
nexus 6p: 6.27 x 3.06 x 0.29 inches (159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm) 5.7" screen
Galaxy s8+: 6.28 x 2.89 x 0.32 inches (159.5 x 73.4 x 8.1 mm) 6.2" srcreen
psycho_maniac said:
development and support are a lot different, but the dimensions are almost the same for a bigger screen. Thinking about getting the s8+ but the whole nexus google like getting updates right away without any problems and the changelog for the latest magisk kinda scared me. saying that the last magisk before 12.0 update broke a bunch of samsung phones. :S
nexus 6p: 6.27 x 3.06 x 0.29 inches (159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm) 5.7" screen
Galaxy s8+: 6.28 x 2.89 x 0.32 inches (159.5 x 73.4 x 8.1 mm) 6.2" srcreen
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Are you looking to get a carrier S8+ or an unlocked one? If carrier then bootloader will be locked​ down just like on the S7/S7 Edge. Your best bet is to get an unlocked Exynos one if you're hoping to be able to root & flash.
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Sounds good, but still want to see the real
i will want an unlocked one then. I got to play with one today at best buy. the size of the phone with that huge screen is awesome. i dont even stress my fingers trying to use it.
Want new software that to very early + unstable==(6p)
Want stable and new software (bit late)== s8+
If i had money and i had this same choice as yours
My opinion== s8+
Sagar_1401 said:
Want new software that to very early + unstable==(6p)
Want stable and new software (bit late)== s8+
If i had money and i had this same choice as yours
My opinion== s8+
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this is exactly the debate. what i like about my nexus 6p is i can flash o right now or the latest n update for anything and it'll work. the latest changelog for magisk kinda scared me for samung devices. saying that 11.x broke a bunch of samsung devices.
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this is exactly the debate. what i like about my nexus 6p is i can flash o right now or the latest n update for anything and it'll work. the latest changelog for magisk kinda scared me for samung devices. saying that 11.x broke a bunch of samsung devices.
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but magisk 12.0 works, why would you care about magisk 11 ?
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but magisk 12.0 works, why would you care about magisk 11 ?
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Yes magisk 12.0 works but it has very less modules (some devs still working on it) but it'll take time.. Until then just wait
Till now it just have one module check out the screenshot
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Yes magisk 12.0 works but it has very less modules (some devs still working on it) but it'll take time.. Until then just wait
Till now it just have one module check out the screenshot
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Until the galaxy s8 is officialy out, it will get updated.
s8 very beautiful
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s8 very beautiful
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Agreed if you are capable enough to buy s8 then why to buy 6p? Its like having lots of money and buying cheap phone just for updates not features
Think about it lad..
Considering the battery life on my 6P has gone to sh*t, I'm really looking forward to the S8+ being easily available so I can pick one up.
Will be keeping the 6P as an antique though, the last Nexus flagship ever made.
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Agreed if you are capable enough to buy s8 then why to buy 6p? Its like having lots of money and buying cheap phone just for updates not features
Think about it lad..
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Yeah s7e martphone 2016 -> s8 smartphone 2017 ????
I too have the Nexus 6P and I've already ordered my S8+. Much like most, my battery life tanked. So I replaced the battery and it's about 75-80% of what it was brand new. I'm really looking forward to the water proofing, screen, Samsung Pay, and camera. I'll probably keep the Nexus 6P around for flashing and tinkering, but the S8+ will be my daily driver! Gonna be a real challenge going from Nexus, root, etc, back to locked down AT&T bloat but I think I can cope! I hope so at least.
I'm looking to switch!
I was about to pre-order the S8+ from samsung and then the agent told me there was no unlocked version!. I'm on simple mobile and i don't know if t-mobile would be willing to unlock their version if I'm not their direct customer. Any thoughts?
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I was about to pre-order the S8+ from samsung and then the agent told me there was no unlocked version!. I'm on simple mobile and i don't know if t-mobile would be willing to unlock their version if I'm not their direct customer. Any thoughts?
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Why not get the US Unlocked model? Works with all carriers.
The SM-G955U to be specific.
I have nexus 6p with battery problems too and would like to try an S8+. The hardware looks great but coming from a nexus I am just worried about all the Samsung bloatware and features that I will never use. I suppose there is always nova launcher and a package disabler app etc but it seems a waste paying for loads of features when I would prefer a leaner interface. But that screen does look amazing.... decisions...
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but magisk 12.0 works, why would you care about magisk 11 ?
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that is not what i ment. i was talking about the fact that an update broke a bunch of samsung phones. who says that could happen again another way, root, rom, magisk.
dwj said:
I have nexus 6p with battery problems too and would like to try an S8+. The hardware looks great but coming from a nexus I am just worried about all the Samsung bloatware and features that I will never use. I suppose there is always nova launcher and a package disabler app etc but it seems a waste paying for loads of features when I would prefer a leaner interface. But that screen does look amazing.... decisions...
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yeah, that screen is amazing. I had one in my hand and it felt really nice and i just saw a video showing how to change the bixbi button to google now.
I just read about it!
Thanks. Just read that it was coming unlocked around May.
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Why not get the US Unlocked model? Works with all carriers.
The SM-G955U to be specific.
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josephh71 said:
Thanks. Just read that it was coming unlocked around May.
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If you don't want to wait, I believe Verizon phones come unlocked now, so if the LTE bands are compatible, you could get one of those.

Going back to nougat from oreo

Ok so basically I hate 8.1 and want to revert back to 7.1. Only problem is that I think it's impossible with the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Can someone point me in the right direction??
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Ok so basically I hate 8.1 and want to revert back to 7.1. Only problem is that I think it's impossible with the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Can someone point me in the right direction??
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Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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For me the main issue is with WiFi, it keeps on dropping and its annoying. Would suggest you not to update just yet.
Wolfcity said:
Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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Removal of the night mode for the most part. No app can do it just as good
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Removal of the night mode for the most part. No app can do it just as good
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This is the single reason I've had it with Motorola. I could not stand this either, and so I unlocked the bootloader and got twrp/magisk ready to flash a new ROM with every feature I want. I'm done with the selective features they provide.
Night mode is actually good for your sleep, yet they give you attentive display to burn your eyes out...rather than a filter to help you at night.
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This is the single reason I've had it with Motorola. I could not stand this either, and so I unlocked the bootloader and got twrp/magisk ready to flash a new ROM with every feature I want. I'm done with the selective features they provide.
Night mode is actually good for your sleep, yet they give you attentive display to burn your eyes out...rather than a filter to help you at night.
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Yeah I think Lenovo messed Moto up. This is gonna be the last Moto phone I ever buy. Luckily there are other mid-range phones with similar specs on the market
jmindset said:
Yeah I think Lenovo messed Moto up. This is gonna be the last Moto phone I ever buy. Luckily there are other mid-range phones with similar specs on the market
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Agreed, 100% man. Honestly the only thing they have going for themselves right now, is the fact that this is one of the best phones for rooting and custom roms. Thankfully there is plenty of support from developers, otherwise we would all be doomed with Moto support.
I'm just kicking myself for waiting this long to begin with, in hopes Moto turned around...LOL
Choup17 said:
Agreed, 100% man. Honestly the only thing they have going for themselves right now, is the fact that this is one of the best phones for rooting and custom roms. Thankfully there is plenty of support from developers, otherwise we would all be doomed with Moto support.
I'm just kicking myself for waiting this long to begin with, in hopes Moto turned around...LOL
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Well i was cheap and bought the Amazon variant with the locked bootloader lol so at least you don't have it as bad as me. Next phone I buy has to have an unlocked bootloader, be CDMA and gsm friendly.
jmindset said:
Well i was cheap and bought the Amazon variant with the locked bootloader lol so at least you don't have it as bad as me. Next phone I buy has to have an unlocked bootloader, be CDMA and gsm friendly.
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Just curious, did you every try to unlock your bootloader? I thought they either came up with a different root method, or I thought I even read some people got lucky and were able to unlock it through Moto's website (although that was early on).
But I feel your pain, me being cheap (saving the $50), ordered the fiance the z3 play Amazon variant... I'm very tempted to see what Amazon will charge me to swap it for an unlocked version. I just can't rely on the future with Moto...
On a side note, I wish we could just flash the full unlocked software channel, then take control...via fastboot/adb. Sure would be nice.
Choup17 said:
Just curious, did you every try to unlock your bootloader? I thought they either came up with a different root method, or I thought I even read some people got lucky and were able to unlock it through Moto's website (although that was early on).
But I feel your pain, me being cheap (saving the $50), ordered the fiance the z3 play Amazon variant... I'm very tempted to see what Amazon will charge me to swap it for an unlocked version. I just can't rely on the future with Moto...
On a side note, I wish we could just flash the full unlocked software channel, then take control...via fastboot/adb. Sure would be nice.
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Well people said it wouldn't work or worse(bricked device) or didn't even bother. This is the first device I've owned that can't even be rooted lol.

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