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Sprint US Desire 816

So, I was at a bar this evening and I happened to come across a person playing poker with a very familiar looking device on his table, I asked him about it and my suspicion was confirmed, it was a grey Desire 816 running on Sprint with spark capabilities, he was an employee and had early access to the device, but its a coming!!!!!!!!

Whoareyou said:
So, I was at a bar this evening and I happened to come across a person playing poker with a very familiar looking device on his table, I asked him about it and my suspicion was confirmed, it was a grey Desire 816 running on Sprint with spark capabilities, he was an employee and had early access to the device, but its a coming!!!!!!!!
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QVC has started shipping the Virgin Mobile version. Mine should arrive Tuesday. I assume Sprint is gonna announce it this coming Monday.

Mes3 said:
QVC has started shipping the Virgin Mobile version. Mine should arrive Tuesday. I assume Sprint is gonna announce it this coming Monday.
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HSN is selling the VM version for $199 (total cost-deal of the day) including car charger and styus. How difficult would it be to change PRLs over to Sprint?

sigson said:
HSN is selling the VM version for $199 (total cost-deal of the day) including car charger and styus. How difficult would it be to change PRLs over to Sprint?
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i dont think it would be as easy just changing the PRL's unfortunately
on a side note, QVC is/was selling it for $199+tax as well, but you can opt for the 5 easy payments of just $43 as well.

Way back I remember some talented devs were using a VM base for Sprint ROMs, so I didn't think it would be too difficult
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Wonder if I used CDMA workshop I could make it work.... Hmmm might be a fun project

He was more than likely testing for VM. I do find it interesting that the Virgin Mobile 816 comes from the factory with all 3 boot animations installed. (Virgin Mobile, Sprint, and Boost Mobile). Going through the files I noticed it also has prop files for all 3 also. I imagine that there's a script that tells the phone what carrier it's for during activation which pulls the right boot anim and prop files.
I guess theres a possibility that the phone could be going to the other carriers but I honestly think Sprint had HTC install everything just in case. Maybe they hadn't figured out which carrier or carriers would get the phone so they had them build one unit that could be activated on either carrier.

Chatting about a Sprint 816, hoping, preying, begging, won't make it come out if it won't, or make it come faster if it is.

I actually put a 4G LTE Spark capable device ESN/MEID on my VM 816 device and the startup actually changed from HTC stock to the Sprint Spark Startup. Although without being able to update the IMEI on the device it is not possible for it to update and grab spark capabilities/LTE even with a brand new UICC card. I didn't update the HA/AAA keys since I didn't have a donor for these. If the IMEI writes it will automatically generate these.
So 1x with unlimited talk&text and a corporate PRL on Ringplus with a blank UICC card until the IMEI is able to write. This will only be possible with S-OFF / SuperCID though like on the HTC One M8.
Combination of QPST, open sesame door, zero out 0&1943 and EFS Professional. Write PRL in DFS.
Done. Lol
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VoLTE on Nexus 6 on AT&T....

Don't get your expectations high (if VOLTE availability is a concern anyways) but all internal paper for sales for the Google Nexus 6 (branded as Nexus 6 by Motorola) does not appears that a VoLTE capacity will be a sales point with AT&T for the Nexus 6.
To be fair with AT&T, Voice HD is not deployed on all markets and I guess AT&T does not wanna screw up on this but yet again, the device we all know is VoLTE capable but seems AT&T might not provision on rate plan speaking the feature.
Of course this is as of know I have seen all documentation.
Might update when the device gets circulated officially.

You may be able to add the ims settings for att. I have been meaning to try this on my maxx.
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The APNs Settings sound plausible, I will preorder mine by midday.
I will try to confirm with the Store's representative if there any update.
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No one at Store knows if the device will physically have the HD Voice capacity turned on.
So, I hope that via settings or APNs do the trick.

Does anyone have the ims settings for att volte?

I too am interested in getting this working if possible. Does VoLTE work on ATT with the Nexus 6?

Right now HD voice is limited to a select few handsets in a select service area ATT did not go nationwide at once like Verizon. In order to be HD it also has to be a call to another compatible ATT phone also located in the select service area.
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AT&T doesn't offer N6 Volte support.
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AT&T doesn't offer N6 Volte support.
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Can you please tell us why this is so?

jjimenezjj said:
Can you please tell us why this is so?
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Have to talk to them on why. You might see nexgen in apn thats their volte apn but at&t never enabled it. I haven't seen anything att volte related on shamu, just Verizon. I recall when we (Bliss) added support. I couldn't live without it. Lol had it for 2+ years. So ask att why they won't enable the APN. Get on them.
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I just had a live chat with someone from AT&T and he told me if HD Voice is in your area, it should automatically connect and you shouldn't have to enable anything. I'll have to try it out and see if he was right or not.

HD voice may be in "your area" and most likely is. You just can't access it. With a Nexus 6... Put your sim in another nexgen phone and BAM you've got volte. ie gs6, g4, etc, n6-nope.
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They have it, probably large coverage. They just never activated it on N6. Be specific when you call. And ask why do you not enable volte APN on the N6.
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It's enabled in alot of areas but not for the Nexus 6, put your sim in an iPhone 6 and you will see it works if its active in your area, they just never activated it on the back end for the nexus 6

If any of you are still rocking your N6 and want to give this method a shot to get VOLTE on ATT , look at my post here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/att-volte-op-5t-possibly-phones-t3717177
I know its a different device, but the principle is the same. I have VOLTE on my OP5t doing just that

apophis9283 said:
If any of you are still rocking your N6 and want to give this method a shot to get VOLTE on ATT , look at my post here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/att-volte-op-5t-possibly-phones-t3717177
I know its a different device, but the principle is the same. I have VOLTE on my OP5t doing just that
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Wanted to take a look but the URL is invalid

@EpicKip: The link was working yesterday, however I know why it was deleted: it involves using the IMEI of another device. The moderators likely believed this to be an end run around the site's rules regarding discussions about changing the IMEI, as in this case the IMEI change is done at the carrier rather than on the device.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@EpicKip: The link was working yesterday, however I know why it was deleted: it involves using the IMEI of another device. The moderators likely believed this to be an end run around the site's rules regarding discussions about changing the IMEI, as in this case the IMEI change is done at the carrier rather than on the device.
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It was left up to me whether I wanted to keep it going. I was allowed to leave it up but considering the conflict amongst mods I let it be. The method however is still working for me.

Ok so I came to the conclusion that doing this unless it is an AT&T branded Nexus 6 is not possible. However, for a brief period of about 2 minutes a few weeks ago I was able to get IPv6 working on LTE after yelling at AT&T support for an hour or so and giving them some AT&T IMEI I found from searching on eBay for a galaxy s8. It was giving me an IPv6 ping for a brief period (WiFi was disconnected and disabled on the N6 and I have IPv6 disabled on my router for the home network so I know it was from LTE).
It stopped working after that brief period when it probably recognized I was using a non at&t Nexus 6 and then I gave up.
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apophis9283 said:
It was left up to me whether I wanted to keep it going. I was allowed to leave it up but considering the conflict amongst mods I let it be. The method however is still working for me.
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I may try that but I read the thread and just know you aren't the only one the mods like to troll. The developer of the Spotify dogfood mod was troubled with them in the past week too.

t3chwizard said:
Ok so I came to the conclusion that doing this unless it is an AT&T branded Nexus 6 is not possible. However, for a brief period of about 2 minutes a few weeks ago I was able to get IPv6 working on LTE after yelling at AT&T support for an hour or so and giving them some AT&T IMEI I found from searching on eBay for a galaxy s8. It was giving me an IPv6 ping for a brief period (WiFi was disconnected and disabled on the N6 and I have IPv6 disabled on my router for the home network so I know it was from LTE).
It stopped working after that brief period when it probably recognized I was using a non at&t Nexus 6 and then I gave up.
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I may try that but I read the thread and just know you aren't the only one the mods like to troll. The developer of the Spotify dogfood mod was troubled with them in the past week too.
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They didnt bother me quite the opposite. They took in under consideration if it violated XDA terms. They actually ruled in my favor. I dont blame them for checking what I was doing thoroughly so it didnt violate XDA rules. However doing it this way should take the branding out of the equation. As my OP5t isnt branded.

apophis9283 said:
They didnt bother me quite the opposite. They took in under consideration if it violated XDA terms. They actually ruled in my favor. I dont blame them for checking what I was doing thoroughly so it didnt violate XDA rules. However doing it this way should take the branding out of the equation. As my OP5t isnt branded.
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I sent you a PM

@apophis9283 Do you or anyone else know of any ROMs for Nexus 6 that work with VoLTE (maybe for AT&T or have VoLTE at all in the ROM) specifically using the carrier side IMEI workaround? I'm running DU 7.1.2 right now and I cannot get VoLTE to work for the life of me. I see no option to disable the VoLTE icon in the statusbar icons settings either so this makes me think maybe this ROM has no VoLTE support.

T-Mobile Nexus 6 works on all carriers CONFIRMED

Hey guys,
I just purchased a nexus 6 from t-mobile and popped in a sim from att, sprint, and Verizon. I can confirm all 3 worked flawlessly with no problems.
At the device start up, i did skip the part where it tried to activate on the network the sim was from.
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

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If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?

sephtin said:
Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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That is not activated on Verizon...
But what I do want to know is if Verizon will whitelist the imei numbers . because I am soooo ready to pull the trigger to buy at a tmobile store. Did you have to activate the tmobile first? That's what the rep is telling me here

sephtin said:
Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.

dadsterflip said:
That is not activated on Verizon...
But what I do want to know is if Verizon will whitelist the imei numbers . because I am soooo ready to pull the trigger to buy at a tmobile store. Did you have to activate the tmobile first? That's what the rep is telling me here
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I'm considering switching to TMo anyway, so I picked up 30 days of pre-paid with the phone for 45$. I plan to try both carriers on my commute, see how signal is on both carriers on the train ride, downtown at work, etc. before making up my mind, and this device makes it as easy as swapping the SIM out!
The issue I had, was I didn't have a nano-SIM. Verizon rep at the store told me there was nothing they could do... I told them if he got me a nano-SIM, that customer support could active it... He gave me a SIM and let me use their phone to call Support to activate it. The support person did a "SIM swap" for my existing device, even though my Note3 obviously doesn't use a nano-SIM.. but that's all it took to activate the nano-SIM, and it works perfectly.
I may be misunderstanding your question... I believe the confusion is that you don't actually activate the phone... you activate the SIM IN the device. You should be able to take the phone out of the box, and drop in an already activated SIM and all will work fine...
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Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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Thank you for confirming, that's exactly what I needed to know! I'm sure I can live without needing mobile data while on a call...

sephtin said:
I'm considering switching to TMo anyway, so I picked up 30 days of pre-paid with the phone for 45$. I plan to try both carriers on my commute, see how signal is on both carriers on the train ride, downtown at work, etc. before making up my mind, and this device makes it as easy as swapping the SIM out!
The issue I had, was I didn't have a nano-SIM. Verizon rep at the store told me there was nothing they could do... I told them if he got me a nano-SIM, that customer support could active it... He gave me a SIM and let me use their phone to call Support to activate it. The support person did a "SIM swap" for my existing device, even though my Note3 obviously doesn't use a nano-SIM.. but that's all it took to activate the nano-SIM, and it works perfectly.
I may be misunderstanding your question... I believe the confusion is that you don't actually activate the phone... you activate the SIM IN the device. You should be able to take the phone out of the box, and drop in an already activated SIM and all will work fine...
Thank you for confirming, that's exactly what I needed to know! I'm sure I can live without needing mobile data while on a call...
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I know it works. My question is. Would Verizon block the imei or device I.d.s later down the road to where it doesn't work and only the imei that's been sold on Google play works.

dadsterflip said:
I know it works. My question is. Would Verizon block the imei or device I.d.s later down the road to where it doesn't work and only the imei that's been sold on Google play works.
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Good luck getting your answer. If the device suddenly stops working on Big Red, I'll post here (as soon as I've completed my switch to another carrier).

sephtin said:
Good luck getting your answer. If the device suddenly stops working on Big Red, I'll post here (as soon as I've completed my switch to another carrier).
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Lol. Yea that's what I was worried about. I didn't want to buy it then down the road oh yea this I.d. doesn't work anymore.

I did not register my device on T-Mobile at all. Just popped the other sims in.
What I'm told is that carriers only care about imei when activating for the first time. If you just put your own sim in there they just can't see the device type which really doesn't matter unless you're looking to call them for support.
T mobile store gave me **** about buying the phone out right. I had to get a friend to add me as an authorized user on his account to buy the phone OUTRIGHT. So stupid...
Also, at T-Mobile the phone out right was 649 where everyone else is like 50 or 40 bucks more which was also sweet.
I also did not get bloat Ware on the phone from the carriers.

The devices CDMA identifier (MEID??) needs to be in the carriers whitelist so if the OP didn't place a voice call over either the Sprint or Verizon networks itnis not "safe" to to say it works on all carriers.
This is supposed to be one model for all of the US with 4 SKUs for the variations, and it should work but there is still the question of whether the CDMA carrier. Allows the phone on their network.
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I can confirm I've activated my nexus bought directly from moto on both sprint and T-Mobile. Both voice and data worked with each carrier. Sprint takes a little more when than just putting the Sim in. They need to activate the MEID in their system. You can't just put an active Sim from another phone in and have it work.

Interesting..
Other users have reported the exact opposite.

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Interesting..
Other users have reported the exact opposite.
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If you referring to activating one on sprint, I was one of those users. Since Monday haven't been able to activate it until this morning.

seezar said:
If you referring to activating one on sprint, I was one of those users. Since Monday haven't been able to activate it until this morning.
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Yep, talking about Sprint. IIRC, there were multiple threads on here saying you can only activate on CDMA carriers if you buy from them or Google Play.

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Yep, talking about Sprint. IIRC, there were multiple threads on here saying you can only activate on CDMA carriers if you buy from them or Google Play.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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Buying from T-Mo living in a non-T-Mo area
Yes. I must be one of the only people on here in the U.S. not living in a T-Mo area.
I just ordered from T-Mo (64GB MB). After much conversation and clarification, I've learned that one can buy a Nexus 6 from them outright, which requires also buying a $10 SIM activation kit. Since I do not live in a T-Mo area, I will have to call and cancel my 'yet-to-be-activated' plan, which also required a $50 deposit. By utilizing T-Mo's "buyer's remorse", I will be able to keep the phone, since I bought it outright, but will be refunded my $50 deposit for the service, without ever having to activate it on T-Mo's network. From there, I will pop in my AT&T SIM card, and be on my way! The only thing I'll be out is the $10 SIM activation kit.
Also, the rep's did acknowledge that the Nexus 6 is one of the few phones they have that are already unlocked.
Please do critique this if you foresee any problems I'll have popping in my AT&T SIM and using my existing service with them.
EDIT: Yargh. T-Mo had zero 64GB phones, and have since called me back to tell me they are on back order. But hey... at least I have an order in now. Beats what I've accomplished so far on the Play store all to hell.

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What about activating on Verizon?
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As far as I'm aware, Verizon comes under the same category. You should only be able to activate on Verizon if you buy the phone from Google Play or from Verizon.

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As far as I'm aware, Verizon comes under the same category. You should only be able to activate on Verizon if you buy the phone from Google Play or from Verizon.
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That is what I have read. I am hoping by the 12/2 when I get my phone from Motorola I will have more options regarding Verizon.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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I bought my device from T-Mobile, removed the T-Mobile sim it came with, put my Verizon sim card in, and it worked no problem. This happened with my phone on ATT as well. The guy next to me did the SAME EXACT THING on Sprint.
I am not BSing you guys in the least. I have no problem helping out in anyway I can. I'll even give you the number and the guy at the T Mobile store who watched us do it lol.

seh6183 said:
Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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This is incorrect, it has been working for 3 years now. Data while on a phone call has been working since LTE came out. It worked on my Note 2, Note 3, and currently works on my Galaxy S5. Also works on my families HTC M7 and M8.
However, it no longer works on the Droid Turbo, and now I believe the N6.
But the original assumption was incorrect, data + voice has been working for years. They did something now that it is not working on new devices coming out.

1+5 on sprint?

Is anyone going to try and see how the new phone works on sprint? I'm thinking about it.

I saw it has all the bands compatible. Curious if anyone is going to try this.

i have sprint, and want it... waiting for the 128gb to be available again...
edit: chatted with oneplus about sprint compatibility, got this answer : As for that concern, we still don't have official information though you may just wait for further updates from OnePlus or you can refer to our Official website.
idk about 600 for a phone that might work, stuck with about a year left on a 2 year contract...
still waiting to get the sprint chat to show on the site lol.

k4m4kz1 said:
i have sprint, and want it... waiting for the 128gb to be available again...
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So your going to give it a shot also?

realbananA said:
So your going to give it a shot also?
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see my edit above lol

My concern would be that by all bands, they are talking about GSM. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. I would hold off if I was on either of those carriers.
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I saw it has all the bands compatible. Curious if anyone is going to try this.
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This isn't quite correct. Verizon uses primarily Band 0 CDMA which the OnePlus 5 (And 3/3T) have included. They all lack Band 1 CDMA which is what Sprint primarily uses and Verizon uses in some major markets. Sprint also uses Band 10 CDMA. For Verizon, you can simply pop the SIM in and get service, but Sprint activation is always tied to the device and not the SIM. Sprint only allows approved devices on their network which is the biggest obstacle.
So your service would not be optimal for 1X/3G even if it were activated on Sprint. You'd most likely get no signal at all. The device does support all the LTE Bands, but while there's CDMA Support the OP5 doesn't have any of the CDMA Bands that Sprint utilizes. If you were ever able to get the device manually added in the system or Sprint approved the device on the network, then it would be essentially an LTE-Only device. Note that this might be handy or interesting in a Dual SIM set-up but probably not very optimal for an ordinary Sprint user.
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My concern would be that by all bands, they are talking about GSM. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. I would hold off if I was on either of those carriers.
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It does work on Verizon as did the 3/3T. Verizon uses Band 0 in most of the country, but they do use Band 1 in some major cities, so it's not optimal. The OP3/3T/5 supports Band 2/4 but not Band 13 which is the primary LTE Band for Verizon. People have gotten 1X/3G/LTE working on Verizon, but it's not optimal due to the band support. There also may have been issues switching between CDMA and LTE but haven't checked recently for updates. If going for Dual SIM then it may work well for some people's needs.

According to this site the phone is fully compatible with Sprint then Verizon, I saw some post where people put Verizon sims and they're not able to get LTE but according to this site it should with Sprint.
Now like the comment above, Sprint will have to approve the phone in their system since they have to activate the phone, yeah it sucks but it's how evil Sprint works, Sometimes they have to add the IMEI number of the phone to put it in their system to activate.
Try and see what they said. When Google released phones that were compatible with Sprint, they did activate the phone you bought through google so this can be the same

gypsy214 said:
According to this site the phone is fully compatible with Sprint then Verizon, I saw some post where people put Verizon sims and they're not able to get LTE but according to this site it should with Sprint.
Now like the comment above, Sprint will have to approve the phone in their system since they have to activate the phone, yeah it sucks but it's how evil Sprint works, Sometimes they have to add the IMEI number of the phone to put it in their system to activate.
Try and see what they said. When Google released phones that were compatible with Sprint, they did activate the phone you bought through google so this can be the same
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It has zero support for CDMA (1X/3G) on Sprint since Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10 CDMA. It would be unlikely that Sprint would whitelist the OP5 or manually add them to the database, especially considering they never added the ZTE Axon 7 which had full support for Sprint. Would certainly be pretty awesome if they did so and would benefit anyone intending to use the OP5 as an LTE-Only device.

I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.

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I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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We're rooting for ya! Get it... ROOTing...

gmac24 said:
I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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Any luck in getting it activated?

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Any luck in getting it activated?
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So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.

gmac24 said:
So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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Pls do I need a new phone

gmac24 said:
So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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Any luck with new sprint sim card? I was not able to activate OnePlus 5 on Sprint Service. Here is comments from Sprint customer care:-
Laine P. : I totally understand how much you wanted to activate your phone. However, to activate it here in our network, I would suggest to contact back oneplus company to let the device be activated so that it will be loaded here in our system.
When I contact OnePlus they said "We are not supporting Sprint and Verizon"

I will be watching this very closely.

Harjinder.Sidhu said:
Any luck with new sprint sim card? I was not able to activate OnePlus 5 on Sprint Service. Here is comments from Sprint customer care:-
Laine P. : I totally understand how much you wanted to activate your phone. However, to activate it here in our network, I would suggest to contact back oneplus company to let the device be activated so that it will be loaded here in our system.
When I contact OnePlus they said "We are not supporting Sprint and Verizon"
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Well I will have my final answer today. I go back into the store and get my sim card and pop it in and see what happens if this doesn't work. Bye OP5 :crying:

gmac24 said:
Well I will have my final answer today. I go back into the store and get my sim card and pop it in and see what happens if this doesn't work. Bye OP5 :crying:
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I'm guessing it didn't work?

realbananA said:
I'm guessing it didn't work?
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No it didn't. :crying: I spent several days and driving to different stores and getting different stories from sprint tech support, but I expected that.

gmac24 said:
No it didn't. :crying: I spent several days and driving to different stores and getting different stories from sprint tech support, but I expected that.
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Disappointing to hear. Thanks for giving it a try and letting us know and sharing the info

Google Fi Carrier Switching?

I'm curious, I'm VERY new to the android world (My iPhone XS Max is still my primary)
I started with Androids about a year ago out of both boredom and a desire to learn.
So, I picked up a Pixel 2, then an LG V30, then S8, then S9, until I found the OnePlus 6. I was instantly hooked on the OnePlus 6, only replacing it with the 6T for the fingerprint reader in the screen. (I still have the 6 and 6T, all others were sold)
Anyway - Google Fi is intriguing to me, as I end up in areas were T-Mobile simply doesn't work. I would like the carrier switching, but I don't have a desire to switch back to a more expensive Pixel 3 XL, that really ONLY offers me the advantage of the carrier switching. Overall, I found the OnePlus 6/6T running Pie to be the cleanest experience.
So, my question - Does anyone feel that someone may be able to get the OnePlus phones to do the carrier switching? Or is this actually a hardware feature? I know nothing about how Fi works, so please excuse my ignorance.
Thank you in advance for any productive responses.

Alternatively, maybe I should just sell the 6 and 6T and pickup with 3XL?

intrusdave said:
Alternatively, maybe I should just sell the 6 and 6T and pickup with 3XL?
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I believe that automatic carrier switching is an integral part of Google Fi
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Oops wrong. Only for fully supported phones.
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Yes, I understand that. But the question was "Does anyone feel that someone may be able to get the OnePlus phones to do the carrier switching? Or is this actually a hardware feature?"
In other words, if the switching software based that may be able to be patched into the 6/6T, or is it a modem hardware feature exclusive to the official Fi devices?

intrusdave said:
Yes, I understand that. But the question was "Does anyone feel that someone may be able to get the OnePlus phones to do the carrier switching? Or is this actually a hardware feature?"
In other words, if the switching software based that may be able to be patched into the 6/6T, or is it a modem hardware feature exclusive to the official Fi devices?
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I was hopping this would be fully functional as Fi announced support for non Fi devices, but apparently network swapping is not going to work or work so well. See the write up for the explanation.
https://www.xda-developers.com/project-fi-samsung-oneplus-lg-moto-iphones/

looks to me like the one plus 6 is on there, so, the T might work as well.
contact google directly, and ask them, thats the best way to find out

Ugh, is no one actually reading the question?
I'm not asking if the phone will work with Fi, I'm asking if the carrier switching is does in hardware or software, and if it is software do the devs here feel that they may be able to port the carrier switching to the other supported phones?

ok, now I understand..
asking questions here makes people assume you are discussing the 6T, NOT project fi/android in general..
good luck

wase4711 said:
ok, now I understand..
asking questions here makes people assume you are discussing the 6T, NOT project fi/android in general..
good luck
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Everything I read is that you would only be using T-Mobile. But since the 6t is dual SIM you can have dual service. I plan on getting a one plus 6t and using fi(TMO) for phone calls and texting and Unreal mobile (ATT) for Data. I am not sure if you can use VZW or Sprint for the second SIM but T-Mobile and AT&T is better in most cases than TMO and Sprint (no US Cellular in my area)
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Everything I read is that you would only be using T-Mobile. But since the 6t is dual SIM you can have dual service. I plan on getting a one plus 6t and using fi(TMO) for phone calls and texting and Unreal mobile (ATT) for Data. I am not sure if you can use VZW or Sprint for the second SIM but T-Mobile and AT&T is better in most cases than TMO and Sprint (no US Cellular in my area)
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Alternatively you can get a pixel 2 or 3 and project fi esim and an alternate SIM. Although it's only one SIM at a time. That way though you do get essentially 3 carriers to choose from for service

So I found if I could dial a code in my dialer for fi, with the Google Fi app installed and activated, and get "cannot switch carrier", all I had to do was clear data on my app and the dialer switch would work

It's on their site. When you choose the 6t it shows what's supported and what's not. See attached image

To answer your question, yes it appears to be a hardware problem. It is either that we don't have the cdma radios needed for sprint or el goog is playing favorites and only wants certain hardware to work for carrier switching between tmobile and sprint. I am not familiar with the us cellular required radios but it is likely the same el goog restriction in this case as well. My vote is that el goog is trying to get people to buy the officially supported devices for full functionality, they are becoming more and more just like all other carriers now, huh?
Either way I think I am switching back to fi now that the 6t is at least officially compatible for use on tmobile and I am almost certain that wifi calling will work where service is poor. I am on tmobile now and wifi calling works just fine, I made a 30 minute wifi call last night and worked perfectly.

So it's a software problem. Google will not release the software as part of an update included with every android release or they won't work with the manufacturer to update the partition responsible

raiderep said:
To answer your question, yes it appears to be a hardware problem. It is either that we don't have the cdma radios needed for sprint or el goog is playing favorites and only wants certain hardware to work for carrier switching between tmobile and sprint. I am not familiar with the us cellular required radios but it is likely the same el goog restriction in this case as well. My vote is that el goog is trying to get people to buy the officially supported devices for full functionality, they are becoming more and more just like all other carriers now, huh?
Either way I think I am switching back to fi now that the 6t is at least officially compatible for use on tmobile and I am almost certain that wifi calling will work where service is poor. I am on tmobile now and wifi calling works just fine, I made a 30 minute wifi call last night and worked perfectly.
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OnePlus 6T has full support for T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, and US Cellular. For Verizon and US Cellular, it also supports every CDMA Band.
For Sprint, it has every LTE Band and is missing one CDMA Band. Sprint doesn't allow unapproved devices on their network, and activation is tied to the device MEID unlike Verizon. There's no hardware reason why Fi can't allow at least LTE on both T-Mobile and Sprint. Perhaps the issue is that Sprint restricts them in some manner from using Fi on devices not in Sprint's database. Also Band 71 (T-Mobile) oddly doesn't work on Google Fi, so maybe it would lend credence to there being weird LTE Band restrictions for Fi's carrier agreements.

Well I am going back to tmobile, fi doesn't allow wifi calling and tmobile does so for me it is a no brainer. I still think that there is more going on here than just hardware issues but that's just my opinion. I mean, why is wifi calling not allowed on fi(tmobile) but it is on tmobile?

Not sure if you already switched back or if you are open to trying another service again, but i have been using Mint Mobile for a while now and love it. My monthly payment comes out to $24/Month with 5GB of data and an additional $10/1GB or $20/3GB.

Maybe https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cheekydevs.fiswitch can help for OP users?

hunterulmes said:
Not sure if you already switched back or if you are open to trying another service again, but i have been using Mint Mobile for a while now and love it. My monthly payment comes out to $24/Month with 5GB of data and an additional $10/1GB or $20/3GB.
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Does wifi-calling work with Mint Mobile??
Eta: Checked website and wifi calling is included, and 20 buck sale right now for 3 months 8gb a month...not bad for a test drive! I'm back on fi so I can pause it while I give it a go :

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Does wifi-calling work with Mint Mobile??
Eta: Checked website and wifi calling is included, and 20 buck sale right now for 3 months 8gb a month...not bad for a test drive! I'm back on fi so I can pause it while I give it a go :
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Awesome dude! It is definitely worth it considering you save at least $40 from any other major carrier. Only thing it doesn't have is the visual voicemail but i never use it anyway so it doesnt bother me.
Hope it is as good for you as it has been for me.

hunterulmes said:
Awesome dude! It is definitely worth it considering you save at least $40 from any other major carrier. Only thing it doesn't have is the visual voicemail but i never use it anyway so it doesnt bother me.
Hope it is as good for you as it has been for me.
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Visual voicemail is working for me with pixel experience ROM on project fi which shouldn't work on OnePlus 6T if I remember correctly.
You try that ROM yet with mint mobile?
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