Verizon (again) sucks. Not RCS support yet - Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion

All other carriers have announced support for RCS messaging, in this case Google Messenger but Verizon hasn't yet. Probably because they want people using their ugly messaging app... I HATE VERIZON
Android Police: RCS is going live for some Google Messenger users, enabling "enhanced features" for SMS. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw6YG9pDA
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Yeah, this news isnt welcomed. Especially because I came from ATT where I had RCS.
I will say that I would rather not have RCS, but have HD voice, wifi calling, etc. if I stick with Verizon instead of AT&T.

Until we have RCS with carrier interoperability I think it will have very limited use.
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seezar said:
Until we have RCS with carrier interoperability I think it will have very limited use.
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This. RCS is not currently standardized so its use is limited at best.

dbrohrer said:
This. RCS is not currently standardized so its use is limited at best.
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Can't you say the same for HD voice calling?
Also...I have the latest version of messenger on my 6p but I don't see the rcs feature. I'm on Att.
And what is the advantage of SMS using data as opposed to whatever the normal way is?

bsg411 said:
Can't you say the same for HD voice calling?
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ATT to Verizon calls support HD voice. But not Verizon to ATT. And not to any other carrier. But the ball is at least rolling.

I love reading a gripe on /r/Verizon where I am a listed employee then seeing it posted on xda to gripe about again. Know why Verizon isn't the first to launch things? They don't need something to go wrong and put customers at a disadvantage because of a change. Like Tmobile when they launch WiFi calling OOOOOpppps

This annoys me so much I've been paying attention to RCS on Verizon for a couple months now and I said it then , Verizon will be last to the party for sure.... Surprise surprise I was right.
Can RCS send a message to SMS? What if I send a message on RCS and the person receiving doesn't have it..what would happen?

ANTHONY81L said:
This annoys me so much I've been paying attention to RCS on Verizon for a couple months now and I said it then , Verizon will be last to the party for sure.... Surprise surprise I was right.
Can RCS send a message to SMS? What if I send a message on RCS and the person receiving doesn't have it..what would happen?
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It will default to SMS
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Virus1x said:
I love reading a gripe on /r/Verizon where I am a listed employee then seeing it posted on xda to gripe about again. Know why Verizon isn't the first to launch things? They don't need something to go wrong and put customers at a disadvantage because of a change. Like Tmobile when they launch WiFi calling OOOOOpppps
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I also worked for Verizon in the past. Left 18 months ago. I worked for them for 6 years. Verizon always is very late at launching EVERYTHING not because of testing but because they love to charge extra for everything. In this case they are pushing their good messages app, where people can buy gift cards and Verizon can pocket some money.
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
I also worked for Verizon in the past. Left 18 months ago. I worked for them for 6 years. Verizon always is very late at launching EVERYTHING not because of testing but because they love to charge extra for everything. In this case they are pushing their good messages app, where people can buy gift cards and Verizon can pocket some money.
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I personally will call bull as I'm more then likely holding a position much higher then you I'm going to assume you held a tier 1 or tier 2 billing position or retail who honestly has no idea what's actually going on.

So this is interesting. this article says that each individual carriers RCS doesn't work with the other carriers. They screwed this whole thing up.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...the-us-and-googles-standard-is-just-one-more/

So I'm on Verizon but looking at greenify I see this for messenger......it's also a Verizon pixel xl.

ANTHONY81L said:
So this is interesting. this article says that each individual carriers RCS doesn't work with the other carriers. They screwed this whole thing up.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...the-us-and-googles-standard-is-just-one-more/
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Yeah, as I said previously. Until there is carrier interoperability this isn't that useful unless you just use the features to message people that are on the same carrier that you are.
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Virus1x said:
I personally will call bull as I'm more then likely holding a position much higher then you I'm going to assume you held a tier 1 or tier 2 billing position or retail who honestly has no idea what's actually going on.
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Personally you can call whatever you want. This thread isn't to see who had the highest position at Verizon. I can tell you I didn't get 2 masters degrees to be on retail or customer service rep.
With that said, I won't address this with you anymore on this thread. If you wish to PM me and measure who has the bigger d***, it's fine. Again, with this thread I had other intentions.
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seezar said:
Yeah, as I said previously. Until there is carrier interoperability this isn't that useful unless you just use the features to message people that are on the same carrier that you are.
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Yeah, agreed. Sucks that iPhones has it easily with iMessage and Android still is trying to get something to work with carriers
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
Personally you can call whatever you want. This thread isn't to see who had the highest position at Verizon. I can tell you I didn't get 2 masters degrees to be on retail or customer service rep.
With that said, I won't address this with you anymore on this thread. If you wish to PM me and measure who has the bigger d***, it's fine. Again, with this thread I had other intentions.
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Your school based education weighs little with me with two bachelor's degrees and working on my masters for a third degree now. All paid for by my company.

Virus1x said:
Your school based education weighs little with me with two bachelor's degrees and working on my masters for a third degree now. All paid for by my company.
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No one cares about your degrees. The hell is wrong with you people. This community was not created so people can ***** at each other over who had better schooling or a higher position at Verizon lmao we need some mods around these Pixel XL forums
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Virus1x said:
Your school based education weighs little with me with two bachelor's degrees and working on my masters for a third degree now. All paid for by my company.
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All those degrees and you still don't possess enough sense to figure out that people on a phone forum don't give 2 @#$%^ about them or how they were paid for.
Back on topic. While not convinced that Google will ever be able to get Android's messaging to the same level Apple has, I have hopes that RCS will eventually become a standard. Getting carriers and OEMs to get their thumbs out of their bums to play along will be tough.

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Verizon and AT&T GS3 won't have 50GB Dropbox!

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...-of-50gb-dropbox-promo-for-samsungs-galaxy-s3
As expected, VZW and ATT had to screw the users somehow
No surprise there.....US phones that are released worldwide are ALWAYS lacking features and bonuses that the rest of the world receives
Just came to post this. Such crap! I'm beginning to aggressively hate Verizon more and more each day.
Would we be able to "hack" ourselves around this road block?
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I'm sure the reason for this is the recently announced Dropbox video streaming. Now its very easy to upload all your media to the 50GB space, then stream it whenever you want without having to sync/download. It's like Google Music for videos, except it uses 10x the bandwidth.
Carriers are NOT happy about that because they can't charge you for it. Both VZW and ATT have lots of people with grandfathered unlimited data, and most who never come close to the bandwidth caps. So they are trying to prevent this.
This reminds me of when I opened my HOX and the beats headphones weren't there!
Stupid ATT! I
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SlimJ87D said:
This reminds me of when I opened my HOX and the beats headphones weren't there!
Stupid ATT! I
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Not supporting at&t but HTC didn't put beats headphones on the international one x as well. They said they won't be doing that going forward.
Interesting to see what sprint and tmobile do with sgs3 dropbox.
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Makes me like Sprint more and more. I guess Verizon and Att want to sell more SD cards?
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This reminds me of when I opened my HOX and the beats headphones weren't there!
Stupid ATT! I
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HTC stopped including Beats headphones with their phones a few months back. That's across their entire catalog not just in the US.
While this would not have stopped me from purchasing the phone, I'm pretty frustrated and feel cheated because Verizon decided to drop something that the phone was presumed to come with, and without notifying customers whatsoever that they opted out of the otherwise standard promotion.
ECrispy said:
I'm sure the reason for this is the recently announced Dropbox video streaming. Now its very easy to upload all your media to the 50GB space, then stream it whenever you want without having to sync/download. It's like Google Music for videos, except it uses 10x the bandwidth.
Carriers are NOT happy about that because they can't charge you for it. Both VZW and ATT have lots of people with grandfathered unlimited data, and most who never come close to the bandwidth caps. So they are trying to prevent this.
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This doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that accessing dropbox data doesn't count against your monthly bandwidth total? I find that hard to believe.
Hotobu said:
This doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that accessing dropbox data doesn't count against your monthly bandwidth total? I find that hard to believe.
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I believe he's referring to the people with unlimited data plans.
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I believe he's referring to the people with unlimited data plans.
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If that's Verizon's thinking it makes me question what percentage of their customer base still has the unlimited plans. While people with unlimited plans can abuse something like this I have to believe that the people who don't have unlimited far outweigh those that do. Furthermore 50GB of easily accessible storage seems like a good way to induce people into data overages.
Not sure if anyone saw this. If you purchase a S3, Dropbox is offering 50gb of storage for free for 2 years. If you purchase a HTC One X you get 25gb of storage for free for 2 years. So you can tell Verizon and AT&T to stuff it because Dropbox is being the nice guys here.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/08/dropbox-for-android-updated-with-streaming-video-support/
EDIT - Please OMIT what I just posted. Apparently I failed to read the first link or I need some sleep.
Wirelessgirl said:
Not sure if anyone saw this. If you purchase a S3, Dropbox is offering 50gb of storage for free for 2 years. If you purchase a HTC One X you get 25gb of storage for free for 2 years. So you can tell Verizon and AT&T to stuff it because Dropbox is being the nice guys here.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/08/dropbox-for-android-updated-with-streaming-video-support/
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I believe that's what we're discussing- the Verizon and AT&T versions of the Samsung Galaxy S III are not eligible for this promotion.
ExodusC said:
I believe that's what we're discussing- the Verizon and AT&T versions of the Samsung Galaxy S III are not eligible for this promotion.
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Oh so sorry. Didn't even read the first link. I know AT&T is evil, but I didn't think Verizon was like that. I hope Rogers doesn't pull an AT&T and Verizon on us.
I think we should protest against this. I'm definitely going to ask about this, and if Sprint/TMobile had any sense they would advertise this.
There's little chance this decision will be reversed but we must fight.
Ok ATT One X gets the 25GB promotion but not the SGS3? Wow can't even say how much i hate all carriers...they control too many things. Im happy to have the international version and ill drop by their store flaunting my sgs3 and show my middle finger to them
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Sucks that this happened for all the people that planned on using this, but it doesnt really bother me as I had no interest in using it.
OMG! I didn't care so much before. Now I need it and can't live without it. I never knew how much it would mean to me not to have it.
All kidding aside, it would have been nice.
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Sucks that this happened for all the people that planned on using this, but it doesnt really bother me as I had no interest in using it.
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Same here. Due to Dropbox's shady business practices and ever changing ToS, I never planned on using them.

Sprint Note 4 thread

Looks like we now have official model number, rumors confirmed SM-N910P
www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910PZKESPR
...anybody get any responses yet from the pre-registration?
I have not yet. I even check the spam box.
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I have not yet. I even check the spam box.
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Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.
Can't wait for this. My s3 needs to be retired
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ohbreeeezy said:
I'm only seeing black and white colors
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You wanted the pink?
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You wanted the pink?
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evolone said:
Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.
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I suspect we won't see any notifications till October. My guess, the phone will probably release around mid-October and they'll start preorders about two weeks prior to release. The good news is that since Samsung has a page on the variant and a model number, It probably going through the FCC review, if not already, and supports an October release.
As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device, but I think it'll be very limited in support. I just can't see it having a large enough install base to make it popular for a lot developers to devote time to develop or modify applications for it. And the $200US price tag seems high for a device that may so limited. It's only usable, as we know thus far, just on the phone. No external power source, so just your phone's battery. No way to use with your PC for those games. In fact, there was an article I read that showed that getting an Octulus for the PC was cheaper than the Note 4 and VR. If they throw it in free, I'll get one. If it was $50 or less, most likely, over $100, not likely.
Plus, I wonder how the VR works. I have issues--lazy eye and colorblindness--so I have no idea if it'll work for me. The new 3D technology does not work at all for me. I have 3D TV and Playstation3, and got the active 3D glasses to check out. The 3D did not work at all. I only saw a lower resolution picture since the 3D tech uses one's cross reference between the two eyes to create the depth perception. I use one eye significant more over the other. There's a reason why I've taken a few baseballs to the throat; yes it hurt. So, on the top of the support, you can understand my skepticism for my own potential experience with it.
I'm actually more curious about the S Gear in regards to the US or Sprint. I think that may be more a more useful device. I would have preferred it to run Android, or Android Wear. I like the hardware it's bringing, and hope it'll bring manufactures to do similar. My other concerns with it, will it work with devices that do not have TouchWiz? What about the glass? Is it crystal like a good watch, or some kind of gorilla glass. Watches tend to get scratched if they're any kind of glass. If they have some kind of bundle where they offer the Gear S on the cheap side, say about $100, I would probably go with something like that.
Ah, it's exciting times for new toy(s).
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As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device,...
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It'll probably work for you since the device shows both eyes live feed (no shutter/no anaglyph). Also there are a bunch of programs that allow you stream PC games to the phone. They are not samsung supported/designed products but they do work (TriDef3D for example, there are also a bunch of android games that support the splitview 3D) I currently have a note 2 and built a custom "google cardboard" vr headset and it works great but the resolution is not so great. So, at least for me, I am accustomed to this type of headset and enjoy it quite a bit for games like Skyrim. In short, you can do everything with an android phone (any of them) that you can do with the Oculus, as there is software and hardware (DIY for most, but we have Galaxy VR now) that supports it.
Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.
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... Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.
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that is excellent news. I hadn't heard Verizon and a couple other hadn't going through yet, but ATT and Sprint had.
And if what you say is true about the VR and my vision, that would be excellent. There's nothing like handing over the 3D glasses to my mother and asking, "is this working? Do you see a 3D picture" And her response, "yes, and it's so cool. wow look at the sky.." it should be noted, this has been the case with most 3D stuff such as 3D rides. The old 3D tech with the blue and red paper glasses worked a little bit, but I've never had that in your face image coming out of the screen. The sad part, if it actually works and does so well, I would probably buy just because of that fact.
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.
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Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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If you want to wait, why not wait. What's the worst that will happen? You won't get the phone on release day?
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.
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A quick search showed that a number of popular phones were discounted during Black Friday the past 2 years.
http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/shopping/2013/best-black-friday-samsung-galaxy-note-3-deals/
http://dealnews.com/features/black-friday/predictions/smartphones/
If I could have held out on my upgrade. Got the S5 a week after release nowni want the note4 lol maybe I could just sell myS5 and my old S3 and get it
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I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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droidrev71 said:
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?
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Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?
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I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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I just actually read in the fine print that the bandwidth is optimized. There are still Framily plans they just aren't advertised. Thanks for the SIM swap info that helps cause a person at Sprint said I needed to come in the Swype.

Verizon in control of Pixel updates

Bad news for you guys in the US, seems like Verizon has taken control of updates for their handsets and those purchased in Best buy. Poor show from Google but it was probably the only way they could sign up with a major carrier over there. Google is doing security updates however.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/6/13191614/verizon-google-pixel-android-updates
* potentially * bad news. Won't know for sure until the first major update.
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Bad news for you guys in the US, seems like Verizon has taken control of updates for their handsets and those purchased in Best buy. Poor show from Google but it was probably the only way they could sign up with a major carrier over there. Google is doing security updates however.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/6/13191614/verizon-google-pixel-android-updates
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Why is it bad for us in the US the smart people know verizon and play store version is same price pretty much such as me I bought play store version only new android users who saw add on verizon and don't know about stock android bloat free will go for verizon verizon pixel will have bloat +1 i got play store stock varient
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* potentially * bad news. Won't know for sure until the first major update.
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I saw apost by verizon saying it will control the updates sucks for verizon pixel users.
I still say it is only potentially bad news, but maybe I'm just optimistic. If V can get the updates out with a month or two, I'll be happy.
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I still say it is only potentially bad news, but maybe I'm just optimistic. If V can get the updates out with a month or two, I'll be happy.
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Since the Google version and Verizon version are identical with hardware I hope some dev finds away to flash the stock Google image to a verizon pixel. Kinda like the one phone amazon was selling with ads(I believe it was the Motorola phone).
Anyone know the details on the Google version not having Wi-Fi calling and hd voice?
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Anyone know the details on the Google version not having Wi-Fi calling and hd voice?
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I can tell you from experience that my N6P was a google store purchase running on the EE network here in the UK. I did get WiFi calling but despite the network supporting it and allegedly the phone too I never got VOLTE (Did have HD voice but that's been standard in the UK for years now)
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Anyone know the details on the Google version not having Wi-Fi calling and hd voice?
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This is the exact reason I ordered the Verizon version. I wanted to ensure I got Wifi calling, HD voice and visual voicemail.
A few sites have already confirmed that there is minimal bloatware that can be uninstalled. Although it might take a little longer for updates it cant be worse than AT&T that I have currently.
It will have to have WiFi calling since they run projectFi.
I want to know how updates will be handled if you have a T-Mobile sim in a Verizon pixel
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This is the exact reason I ordered the Verizon version. I wanted to ensure I got Wifi calling, HD voice and visual voicemail.
A few sites have already confirmed that there is minimal bloatware that can be uninstalled. Although it might take a little longer for updates it cant be worse than AT&T that I have currently.
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I too pre-ordered the Verizon variant. Google wont allow Verizon to hang onto the updates very long anyways which I don't even care about. I am just concerned with the Verizon HD voice and Wifi calling. I also don't care that the bootloader is locked. Custom roms are buggy as hell (I know I'm on one now on my G3) and they usually break important features. I also get a free daydream VR headset which cosys $100 and the Google Store purchasers don't get anything free! Haha
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I too pre-ordered the Verizon variant. Google wont allow Verizon to hang onto the updates very long anyways which I don't even care about. I am just concerned with the Verizon HD voice and Wifi calling. I also don't care that the bootloader is locked. Custom roms are buggy as hell (I know I'm on one now on my G3) and they usually break important features. I also get a free daydream VR headset which cosys $100 and the Google Store purchasers don't get anything free! Haha
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Pre-Orders from the Google Store get a free Daydream VR headset too
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Pre-Orders from the Google Store get a free Daydream VR headset too
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Oh, my bad. Good stuff. Can't wait to walk around blindly breaking all kinds of stuff in the house. My wife's really gonna love this contraption! Haha. Let's see how fast this thing goes in a droor to collect dust.
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This is the exact reason I ordered the Verizon version. I wanted to ensure I got Wifi calling, HD voice and visual voicemail.
A few sites have already confirmed that there is minimal bloatware that can be uninstalled. Although it might take a little longer for updates it cant be worse than AT&T that I have currently.
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The Google store version will have this available for both
T-Mobile and Verizon sims. You don't have to buy it from Verizon for this feature. Also project Fi uses it as well.
I don't think or should i say hope that there will not be that much of a delay , maybe a one to two week delay if that. I would say that google might delay the official non beta release to time more with Verizon to make it seem like they are pushing them out faster at lease for the first major update. I honestly cant see it taking that long for Verizon to test reliability on the network. since the phone will still be mostly pure android there isn't much else for Verizon to get there paws on to mess with besides the 3 apps they have on there. a few weeks will still be better then any other android out there , I think the fastest ive seen a device besides a nexus get the current android version was around 3 months or longer so anything has to be better then that lol
This could be hopeful thinking cause i ordered through Verizon
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I don't think or should i say hope that there will not be that much of a delay , maybe a one to two week delay if that. I would say that google might delay the official non beta release to time more with Verizon to make it seem like they are pushing them out faster at lease for the first major update. I honestly cant see it taking that long for Verizon to test reliability on the network. since the phone will still be mostly pure android there isn't much else for Verizon to get there paws on to mess with besides the 3 apps they have on there. a few weeks will still be better then any other android out there , I think the fastest ive seen a device besides a nexus get the current android version was around 3 months or longer so anything has to be better then that lol
This could be hopeful thinking cause i ordered through Verizon
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Verizon has a bad record of not delivering as promised. They also don't respect pure Android and will surely bog it down with all of their crap software. They also will take their sweet time with updates as they do with every other device, even when the manufacturer said they will be timely. All companies except apple get burnt with Verizon. Big Red could care less about what their customers want. As long as you are using their service, they got you. And with the Verizon Pixel, you have no other options. I hope I am wrong, but it's Verizon we are talking about.
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Verizon has a bad record of not delivering as promised. They also don't respect pure Android and will surely bog it down with all of their crap software. They also will take their sweet time with updates as they do with every other device, even when the manufacturer said they will be timely. All companies except apple get burnt with Verizon. Big Red could care less about what their customers want. As long as you are using their service, they got you. And with the Verizon Pixel, you have no other options. I hope I am wrong, but it's Verizon we are talking about.
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Well there is always another option , buy from google store lol . Very true Verizon sucks balls when it comes to updates for anything wont argue with that ... maybe they will surprise us all with the Pixel ?? yeah probably not lol. I wonder how much worse or better the other carriers are? i don't remember att being all that much better but i only had one android with them
razor237 said:
Well there is always another option , buy from google store lol . Very true Verizon sucks balls when it comes to updates for anything wont argue with that ... maybe they will surprise us all with the Pixel ?? yeah probably not lol. I wonder how much worse or better the other carriers are? i don't remember att being all that much better but i only had one android with them
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You could buy it from Google store and then pop a Verizon sim in it. Then you would have the Google version on Verizon service. You wouldn't be at the mercy of Verizon that way.
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You could buy it from Google store and then pop a Verizon sim in it. Then you would have the Google version on Verizon service. You wouldn't be at the mercy of Verizon that way.
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I know, but decided to just get though verizon could be a bad choice but not really that big of a deal, ill keep my 6P if i have the urge to tinker lol
razor237 said:
Well there is always another option , buy from google store lol . Very true Verizon sucks balls when it comes to updates for anything wont argue with that ... maybe they will surprise us all with the Pixel ?? yeah probably not lol. I wonder how much worse or better the other carriers are? i don't remember att being all that much better but i only had one android with them
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I can't understand why people always say the Verizon is bad at pushing updates. For at least the last 3 years they are the first of all major U.S. carriers to push updates to LG and Samsung. Don't know about HTC as I've never owned one but my LG G2, G3 and G4 all got their updates before any of the other carriers and the same with my Note 7 for the 2 small updates it did receive. Verizon will handle the Pixel's updates just fine. They always did with all the latest flagships for years now. I think people just have an advanced hatred for Verizon for god knows what reason but I've tried every major U.S. carrier and Verizon is hands down the best. The limited data crap sucks but now it's technically unlimited but throttled after you blow through the amout you pay for. I'm more than happy to get my Pixel XL through Verizon. They always deliver and never ask questions if I have a faulty device.

Anybody bootloop yet?

I'm getting my V20 tomorrow, and there is someone on Android Central who claims to work at Verizon. He's says they have had 5 returns since launch for bootlooping issues just at his location. I've done a Google search and I'm really not seeing anything about it, but I know LG has had this problem before. Anyone heard/experienced this? I'm not too worried, but I am in Verizon so it had me curious.
Nah, way too soon. Plus this soc runs way cooler then the 808.
And nougat runs buttery smooth.
So far at least. See my post in a month.
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howdyace said:
Nah, way too soon. Plus this soc runs way cooler then the 808.
And nougat runs buttery smooth.
So far at least. See my post in a month.
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I'm also suspecting a little bias from the poster. When I went into the verizon store...they practically BEGGED me to buy a Pixel! Must be some serious incentives for them to sell that phone. And I'm sure the Pixel is nice, but for my own reasons I just don't really like it all that much. I think I'll love the V20, but LG'S reliability track record makes me a but nervous.
Not sure what Google is thinking it's 2016, locking a phone into one provider is literally retarded.
As for the boot loop problem it seems to be a big issue with the g4 and some of the early v10s.
If you want to play it safe I would wait a month or so see if reports come in.
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evo4g63t said:
Not sure what Google is thinking it's 2016, locking a phone into one provider is literally retarded.
As for the boot loop problem it seems to be a big issue with the g4 and some of the early v10s.
If you want to play it safe I would wait a month or so see if reports come in.
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Eh...you only live once..I'm going for it..bootloops be damned! Lo
evo4g63t said:
Not sure what Google is thinking it's 2016, locking a phone into one provider is literally retarded.
As for the boot loop problem it seems to be a big issue with the g4 and some of the early v10s.
If you want to play it safe I would wait a month or so see if reports come in.
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Verizon must have compelled them someway to maintain exclusivity rights... I wonder. The Pixel can be used on other networks. Verizon holds the rights to finance and sell the phone directly. Every other consumer outside of Verizon's network needs to purchase the phone from Google.
motojdm said:
Verizon must have compelled them someway to maintain exclusivity rights... I wonder. The Pixel can be used on other networks. Verizon holds the rights to finance and sell the phone directly. Every other consumer outside of Verizon's network needs to purchase the phone from Google.
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Yeah I know, I've been going to that particular store for years and never seen them push a phone so hard, except when they first got the iPhone

Has Verizon White Listed The 6P?

I did both a google and a forum search and couldn't find a definite answer. I know it'll work on the network, but is everybody getting their employee and month to month discounts?
After the run around they gave us with the Nexus 6 I wanted to make sure before I buy.
You could always ask Verizon themselves?
Norwester said:
I did both a google and a forum search and couldn't find a definite answer. I know it'll work on the network, but is everybody getting their employee and month to month discounts?
After the run around they gave us with the Nexus 6 I wanted to make sure before I buy.
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Simple answer if you have an already activated Verizon SIM card: Buy a Nexus 6P. Turn both old phone and 6P off. Put your old SIM card into the 6P. Power it up.
Whoila!! Verizon 6P, without having to even hassle with calling or stopping into a Verizon store, and absolutely nothing on your plan will change. Win win win.
I've done the above 5 times on different lines, and I have to say I'll never visit a Verizon store or call them again if I can help it. So far it's going pretty well!
I activated mine online using the Verizon website.
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You could always ask Verizon themselves?
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Yeah, I could ask 3-4 CS reps and get 3-4 different answers. I know better.
Thanks for the replies but I'm not concerned about activating it, I'll just plug my Nexus 6 sim card in. Just wanted to verify that they're not pulling employee and m2m discounts on non Verizon devices. Looked through the threads here and as there isn't an uproar about it I'll assume that they aren't.
Thanks again.
Norwester said:
Yeah, I could ask 3-4 CS reps and get 3-4 different answers. I know better.
Thanks for the replies but I'm not concerned about activating it, I'll just plug my Nexus 6 sim card in. Just wanted to verify that they're not pulling employee and m2m discounts on non Verizon devices. Looked through the threads here and as there isn't an uproar about it I'll assume that they aren't.
Thanks again.
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At one point we had 3 of the 5 lines on our family plan running N6P's, and still have continued to get the employer discount we always have. So nothing in our plan has changed. But again, I haven't ever even contacted Verizon I've just swapped SIM's as every time I do that I risk something happening as who knows what bonehead you'll get to "help" you
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But again, I haven't ever even contacted Verizon I've just swapped SIM's as every time I do that I risk something happening as who knows what bonehead you'll get to "help" you
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OK thanks, that's what I was wondering. I couldn't remember if I had to enter the imei online. And I made the mistake of letting a CS bone head "help" me once. It only took a couple weeks to fix it afterwards....
On Verizon and getting my discounts for more than a year.
+1 on discount
+2 on discount. I went to the store to activate mine. I didn't have a sim to fit the 6P and didn't want to cut mine down. I had read through a bunch of forums about problems getting it activated and was well prepared. The store reps told me it couldn't be done but I had all the info at hand on how to do it and "helped" them through it. The only issue I had is when I used the upgrade that was available on my line to get my son a phone. The next month my bill went up. My line was no longer receiving the $25.00 discount. I called and the rep told me it was only available for Verizon phones. I don't know how many people I talked to before it was fixed but it turned out to be some computer glitch.
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More reasons to hate Verizon.
I've been using the Nexus 6p on this Verizon. I switch between an iphone 7 plus and the nexus 6p all the time. And no issues.
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androidbuff123 said:
I've been using the Nexus 6p on this Verizon. I switch between an iphone 7 plus and the nexus 6p all the time. And no issues.
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I'm grandfathered unlimited data and state employee discount, have been switching between iPhone 6S Plus and Nexus 6P without issues.
How do you like the iPhone 7?
NeXus 6P
jesssiii said:
I'm grandfathered unlimited data and state employee discount, have been switching between iPhone 6S Plus and Nexus 6P without issues.
How do you like the iPhone 7?
NeXus 6P
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I like the 7plus. Very reliable and a single battery charge lasts me a couple of days at least.
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androidbuff123 said:
I like the 7plus. Very reliable and a single battery charge lasts me a couple of days at least.
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Thanks. Battery is the reason i keep going back to my iPhone. Pretty much everything else takes me back to my 6P, lol.
NeXus 6P
Same here. Have a 6P on Verizon with employee discount.
Just wish it was simple as transfering the Google Dialer from the Pixel to the 6P for the built in visual voicemail.
I just use google voice for voicemail. It works great at texting me/emailing me transcripts.
I decided to go for it and found a fair deal on a new one that'll be here tomorrow. Spigen Rugged Armor case, screen protectors and spare chargers have been sitting here since Saturday. Haven't used Google Voice in a few yrs but I'll figure it out. Thanks again for the replies.
ohlin5 said:
Simple answer if you have an already activated Verizon SIM card: Buy a Nexus 6P. Turn both old phone and 6P off. Put your old SIM card into the 6P. Power it up.
Whoila!! Verizon 6P, without having to even hassle with calling or stopping into a Verizon store, and absolutely nothing on your plan will change. Win win win.
I've done the above 5 times on different lines, and I have to say I'll never visit a Verizon store or call them again if I can help it. So far it's going pretty well!
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Hi, I have a 5X and ordered a Verizon prepaid SIM Kit. My plan is to first put the SIM in an old iPhone 4s that used to be on Verizon as it is a CDMA iPhone 4s. Then, once the SIM is active I will swap it to the 5X and it should work fine from what I have found researching this.
Does anyone know if Verizon has recently added the 6P and 5X to their "okay" to activate list as I can avoid the swapping if so?
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