Bottom Firing Speaker - Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion

So I was thinking about all these people complaining and whining about the pixel not having a front firing speaker or dual front speakers for stereo and I got to thinking how would that sound while the phone is inside the DayDream VR with the speakers facing your eyes? Perhaps the bottom firing is better after all?
I for one hold, and semi cup the top/bottom while holding the phone horizontally watching video, so the sound reflects back at me anyways. Coming from an LG v10 I am used to this. Compared both phones watching the same music video on youtube at best buy and they were pretty much equal in volume..
What ya think?

Agreed..... You'd have those speakers firing right into your eyes. Google is really pushing Daydream so I'm sure that played a roll.
In all honesty compared to my 6P the only time I miss the stereo speakers is when the phone is in landscape. I much prefer the sound signature of the Pixel in comparison for everything else but don't like the sound coming out of one side in landscape.

It's the best single speaker I've had on a device. Loud and clear sound. With the phone face down in my pocket I can actually hear my notifications because of the speaker placement.

nadiros said:
It's the best single speaker I've had on a device. Loud and clear sound. With the phone face down in my pocket I can actually hear my notifications because of the speaker placement.
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This is true as well. Can't tell you how many important emails I replied to late because in a noisy warehouse environment I did not hear the notification because the speakers were pressed into my leg.

I'm guessing most people will use headphones when using the headset, otherwise you won't be able to get a sense of location from the sound. I doubt VR was part of the decision.

nadiros said:
It's the best single speaker I've had on a device. Loud and clear sound. With the phone face down in my pocket I can actually hear my notifications because of the speaker placement.
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AndrasLOHF said:
This is true as well. Can't tell you how many important emails I replied to late because in a noisy warehouse environment I did not hear the notification because the speakers were pressed into my leg.
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Ditto, I have a really loud DING type notification sound just because of this same reason. When I have the phone out, people freak out literally.. Yelling at me, wtf why don't you change that tone or put it on vibrate.. I'm like it's also set to vibrate, but just like I miss the tones, in a loud environment (outside), while walking I can not really differentiate the vibration on my leg..

The LG G4 has the speaker on the back. Nice looking phone but you can't hear much.

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Music speaker quality - loudness..

Hi everyone today I just sold my X10, and I'm gonna foucs on something other, like HTC LEGEND I red something abut the phone, everything looks brilliant, but I'd like to hear some opinions about the speaker ?? Is the quality of music and earspeaker good? In X10 voice from earphone was poor, sometimes I coludn't hear my caller, when I was driving car it was annoying.. The music from the speaker wasn't aslo the most powerful. It was a little quiet, and I'm curios about the situation in HTC LEGEND
The built in loudspeaker output is poor, especially if you're assigning an MP3 as a ringtone. I'm always missing calls because it's not very loud
The legend is very loud but because it sits flat on its back it really muffles the sound. Just remember to put it on a non flat surface or put it upside down. Is say its a design over sight
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duckdown said:
The built in loudspeaker output is poor, especially if you're assigning an MP3 as a ringtone. I'm always missing calls because it's not very loud
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I'm always missing calls because it's not very loud
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The legend is very loud
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So finally what ?? As I can see, Legend has loud speaker but putting it on back mufles the sound and now it isint loud ?
Unfortunately, HTC is not very famous for the speaker sound quality. The speaker is poor and a free hands conversation is ... depressing : )
In direct comparison with the x10 the legend sounds much better. My friend has the x 10 and it sounds awful
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I was completely disappointed when I first opened the package with my x10 turned it on and played the music sample in mediascape:-\ such as type of headset and so poor quality both from speaker and headset i don't need the phone playing like hifi but it must be audible outdoor, not like x10:-( s far the best speaker for me has n95 , next samsung Wave...
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the speaker quality is okay when hearing music, as long as you dont turn up the volume too much
the loudness is good as well imo
but the headphones u get with the phone are awful...
It was a mistake to design the phone with the speaker on the back. It should have been on top (Nokia E71) or at the bottom (iPhone 4).
On top of that, the maximum volume is not very loud. It's too bad because the rest of the phone is great. But this flaw might just be a dealbreaker for me if they don't fix it ;(
Indeed the problem is as many have stated, that the speaker is on the back.
When the phone is lying on it's back you get about 60% volume decrease on the speaker. Bad design.
I can live with this though, i love the phone other than this, and the 3,5mm jack problem

What I don't like about Galaxy Note

To be fair to all those considering Note, after all praising (I still do think it's best phone in the world right now), there are definitely drawbacks.
Here is one for example:
The regular phone speaker above the screen (not the loud one on the back) is not pointing sound into one direction. You can even speak on the phone with back side of Galaxy Note put to you ear, you will still be able to hear everything clearly, even on low volume.
On top volume, it is comparable to speaker phone on some other phones, so if you pick up a phone while surrounded by other people (unless you are in very loud place) they will hear the other person.
While in the office, I noticed myself turning volume down a lot when I pick up the phone.
I dont have this kind of problem , my old Nokia phone does.
Sure someone can hear some of the content near the phone you are talking in a dead silent arwa, it's inevitable.
I feel Gnote already perform quite well compare to the other phones, like HTCs in this area
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to be honest id rather it was loud and have the ability to turn the volume down than it be too quiet and unable to turn the volume up
as my mum used to say,if its cold its better to have a coat and be able to take it off if you get hot than be cold and need a coat and not have one
Richy99 said:
to be honest id rather it was loud and have the ability to turn the volume down than it be too quiet and unable to turn the volume up
as my mum used to say,if its cold its better to have a coat and be able to take it off if you get hot than be cold and need a coat and not have one
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It's not a question of whether badly working phone is better than no phone. It's a question of best phone being of high quality. In this case its potential privacy concern.
I switched from iPhones, where it was not an issue. If you put it tight to your ear in silent room, none else hears the person on the other end. Even on loud.
Like I've said above, on Note in silent room regular speaker (not the loud speaker) is comparable to loud speaker on some other phones. You can hear through the phone! Test yourself, make a call with screen side out, battery cover side to your ear, you might be surprised, that it's practically no difference what side you hold it to the ear, even on lowest in-call volume you can still comfortably speak with wrong side of the phone touching your ear.
I have not tried other Notes than mine, but I seriously doubt that it is one time occurrence, seems to me like an engineering issue, not enough sound insulation behind the speaker, just few thin layers of plastic.
If it is such a privacy concern, why not use a bluetooth headset or earbuds? Why not leave the room instead of taking the call in the room?
I mean there are more options that just sitting there letting everyone else hear your conversation if you feel that you have something to hide. But then again, your talking so they naturally are going to hear at least 1 part of the conversation no matter what. So I fail to see how you can really be concerned with privacy when they hear everything you say anyways, right?
If you were that worried about privacy you would send texts, emails or use an IM program to send messages so that no one knew what was being said or talked about. But since you are willing to sit in the room and let them listen to what at least you are saying, then you are not overly concerned with them at least hearing part of the conversation.
When I get a call that I dont want anyone else to hear I either leave the room, put on my earbuds or tell the person I will call them back when I can talk. So really it isnt about privacy concerns at all, it is just an inconvience for you to know that the speaker is loud. Louder than you are used to at least.
Fuuny that you mention this because i never thought i'll use those bt headsets until i own the Note. Each time i put it in my ear, my worry is not the volume but the number of heads turning towards me and the the sheepish grin that follows.
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Maybe try turn down the volume and using a case.
I wonder how those HTC phones perform because they all have ear speakers that are wide across the width of the phone itself.
eksasol said:
Maybe try turn down the volume and using a case.
I wonder how those HTC phones perform because they all have ear speakers that are wide across the width of the phone itself.
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Lol..the speaker grill on HTC phone what we call it, is just a gimmick. If we see inside, the speaker none the less is only small portion on the middle side
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Astrum said:
While in the office, I noticed myself turning volume down a lot when I pick up the phone.
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That's a really good point. Something else to improve in the Note2 along with moving power button!
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Ring tones only use bottom speaker?

Hi,
Did anyone notice when your phone receives a call, it appears that only the bottom speaker is only being used for the ring tone as opposed to both? I think it maybe a bug because I don't recall this on my Z2 where both would sound.
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Sango2 said:
Hi,
Did anyone notice when your phone receives a call, it appears that only the bottom speaker is only being used for the ring tone as opposed to both? I think it maybe a bug because I don't recall this on my Z2 where both would sound.
Thanks
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Correct. Same on Z2. Once we get root without unlocking the bootloader, we can enable both speakers.
There's a thread in Development by olokos on this matter.
My phone is stock.
As for the Z2, there was an update that enabled the notifications to play through both speakers. I believe ringtone was also part of it; I don't have my Z2 now since a friend is helping me sell it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2763528
I fear Sony had a GOOD reason for restricting those sounds to the lower speaker: Upper speaker has far more bass, making the phone vibrate quite strongly, you can easily feel that while playing music.
Ringtones usually are a bit louder than everything else, so vibrations would get even stronger.
And that does not seem to be a sound idea: I found my Z3's screen cracked after listening to loud music for some hours. No, not "the neighbor's cat". Just by playing music.
And just guess where that crack starts: Right at the upper speaker.
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I fear Sony had a GOOD reason for restricting those sounds to the lower speaker: Upper speaker has far more bass, making the phone vibrate quite strongly, you can easily feel that while playing music.
Ringtones usually are a bit louder than everything else, so vibrations would get even stronger.
And that does not seem to be a sound idea: I found my Z3's screen cracked after listening to loud music for some hours. No, not "the neighbor's cat". Just by playing music.
And just guess where that crack starts: Right at the upper speaker.
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So much for great b.q
RCJ89 said:
Sio much for great b.q
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Huh ?
Chefproll said:
Huh ?
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b.q = Build Quality :good:
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b.q = Build Quality :good:
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Aaaah, ok !
Bass can be controlled, and screens don't crack during normal useage "Just by listening to bassy music" Sorry.
Should play out of both, period.
Fair enough, Im getting a z3 anyway after extensive play with one today

Loudspeaker Quality

As there is no similar topic specially for Loudspeaker I decided to create one.
I like the speakers of the phone sound good and bassy.
Although I had to replace the speakers (repair),
(cuz it got low by it self (hardware defect))
But I noticed the bottom speaker is thinner and more high frequency specialized in the other side the top speaker for low frequency (bass)
Idk if it is hardware fault or it is designed by Sony,
I want to know your thoughts abt the loudspeakers ?
I don't know about Z3, but in the Z2 the top speaker is more clear than the bottom one. I think it's probably some kind of technology. But in the other side, if you're watching a film in horizontal direction, you can hear that everything is happening on the left side and that's annoying.
if the phone gets wet especially the loudspeaker area the loudspeakers stop making sound and thd sound is emitted from some sort of loudspeakers internal to the phone which appears the be louder from the back of the phone.
i listen music in the shower, so thats how i found out. though it was interesting to share
BrainstormPL said:
I don't know about Z3, but in the Z2 the top speaker is more clear than the bottom one. I think it's probably some kind of technology. But in the other side, if you're watching a film in horizontal direction, you can hear that everything is happening on the left side and that's annoying.
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That's kind of weird, my neighbor have the Z2 and he never had such problem, are you sure it's not hardware fault? If my neighbor find such problems he directly comes to me to ask me what's this etc, but I know he don't have this problem cuz u also use his phone to compare etc, so I guess for you its a hardware fault maybe?
raviboy100 said:
if the phone gets wet especially the loudspeaker area the loudspeakers stop making sound and thd sound is emitted from some sort of loudspeakers internal to the phone which appears the be louder from the back of the phone.
i listen music in the shower, so thats how i found out. though it was interesting to share
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Yeah I also listen to music when I shower and I can confirm that,
oh no dont get me wrong it's not a complaint, im suprised the phone knows when its wet enough to stop the loudspeaker, its a good thing =)
raviboy100 said:
oh no dont get me wrong it's not a complaint, im suprised the phone knows when its wet enough to stop the loudspeaker, its a good thing =)
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Hmm maybe the speakers feel pressure when it gets wet and it shows the volume down / stops the speakers ?
As an audiophile I will say that as a Mobile Loudspeaker it is quite good. Compared to anything else though it is still a low sound quality speaker.
But as a mobile speaker though, it is very good. It is loud, clear and doesn't "break up" that much. It got some bass, but not much.
I think it sounds better with the surround function on. :good:
Its pretty good, but not near the M8. Id say second best of any phone out. I don't get the left/right mismatch many of you have mentioned., I have been through 4 Z3s for cosmetic defects and all sound equal. Maybe its a quality control issue or I have bad ears.
When I go into the service menu and do a test of the speakers, I get the sound coming out of the top/left speaker on both. What's going on there? There is perhaps some sound coming out of the bottom/right but it's tiny in comparison.

Anyone else think earpiece is too quiet?

Maybe my nexus 6 was just that good but it feels like the v20's earpiece speaker isnt very clear or loud....I can live with lower quality but the sound level is kind of low (hard to hear people in noisy places)
bob2300nx said:
Maybe my nexus 6 was just that good but it feels like the v20's earpiece speaker isnt very clear or loud....I can live with lower quality but the sound level is kind of low (hard to hear people in noisy places)
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Yeah its low (with my over the ear cans), went all in on a descent amp that can usb of my pc and/or directly off my phone. Like my cans to rattle sometimes. With my IEMs though it gets loud after 50-60. Id make sure you have enabled Hi-Fi sound on the phone first and found this app to be very useful in adding some punch and volume to my tracks. ----> Equalizer (by Smart Android Apps)
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Yeah its low (with my over the ear cans), went all in on a descent amp that can usb of my pc and/or directly off my phone. Like my cans to rattle sometimes. With my IEMs though it gets loud after 50-60. Id make sure you have enabled Hi-Fi sound on the phone first and found this app to be very useful in adding some punch and volume to my tracks. ----> Equalizer (by Smart Android Apps)
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Im talking about in call volume through the speaker that you hold up to your ear.
bob2300nx said:
Im talking about in call volume through the speaker that you hold up to your ear.
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Lol!! Oh. No not at all, that's way better than the last phone I had the lgg3.
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Check your phone call settings. There may be an option in there that was enabled by accident.
And/or tell your correspondence to speak up. Lol.
yeah idk, my s7 sounded like crap for phone calls. could never understand the person on the other line. but my V20 sounds amazing. clear, loud etc. kills the s7
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I'm experiencing the same. Extremely clear, no issues whatsoever.
Speaking of the Nexus 6. That phone was hands down the best Android phone ever made. If they re-released it with a fingerprint sensor, I would buy it again. Best speakers and sound of any phone. It could have used a better camera, but other than that, 9 out of 10.
As for the speaker sound in the V20. I think it could be a a bit louder. Clarity isn't an issue for me. But it's def not very loud.
On the T-Mobile variant this thing is loud and clear. If I turn it all the way up I can hold it away from my ear in front of me and still hear the other person clear enough to understand them. definitely no issues so far involving that
Lgv20user said:
Check your phone call settings. There may be an option in there that was enabled by accident.
And/or tell your correspondence to speak up. Lol.
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What settings are you talking about?
And people calling me didnt magically decide to speak quietly just because I bought a new phone.
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Speaking of the Nexus 6. That phone was hands down the best Android phone ever made. If they re-released it with a fingerprint sensor, I would buy it again. Best speakers and sound of any phone. It could have used a better camera, but other than that, 9 out of 10.
As for the speaker sound in the V20. I think it could be a a bit louder. Clarity isn't an issue for me. But it's def not very loud.
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Yes loudness is the issue. Its too quiet if you are anywhere with noise like the grocery store.
Nexus 6 was a good phone but had issues (guess all phones do). The camera was pretty bad and buggy at times. Speakers were great but if you had lower battery they would automatically decrease the volume like 50% (even at max volume) that was insanely annoying. And lastly it throttled speed pretty badly when battery got low. Oh and it was pretty big, alittle smaller screen with the v20 but much smaller in the hand.
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What settings are you talking about?
And people calling me didnt magically decide to speak quietly just because I bought a new phone.
Yes loudness is the issue. Its too quiet if you are anywhere with noise like the grocery store.
Nexus 6 was a good phone but had issues (guess all phones do). The camera was pretty bad and buggy at times. Speakers were great but if you had lower battery they would automatically decrease the volume like 50% (even at max volume) that was insanely annoying. And lastly it throttled speed pretty badly when battery got low. Oh and it was pretty big, alittle smaller screen with the v20 but much smaller in the hand.
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Pull up your phone app. Make sure it's on the dial menu and hit the 3 vertical dots in the upper right hand corner. Go to call settings. The last option should be one that reads "more" . Peruse that and see what may help. Good luck.
bob2300nx said:
What settings are you talking about?
And people calling me didnt magically decide to speak quietly just because I bought a new phone.
Yes loudness is the issue. Its too quiet if you are anywhere with noise like the grocery store.
Nexus 6 was a good phone but had issues (guess all phones do). The camera was pretty bad and buggy at times. Speakers were great but if you had lower battery they would automatically decrease the volume like 50% (even at max volume) that was insanely annoying. And lastly it throttled speed pretty badly when battery got low. Oh and it was pretty big, alittle smaller screen with the v20 but much smaller in the hand.
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Only thing I can think of would be to try turning on hearing aid compatibility or maybe messing with the call clarity and noise suppression options and see if that affects anything for ya.
I have both voice clarity and noise suppression turned on and have no problems with low volume at all. I remember reading somewhere on a different phone e that the hearing aid option made it noticeably louder on that specific phone so you could try that and see if it works for this phone.
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Maybe my nexus 6 was just that good but it feels like the v20's earpiece speaker isnt very clear or loud....I can live with lower quality but the sound level is kind of low (hard to hear people in noisy places)
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Am finding the same too, this time i have the voice clarity option enabled, lets see if it makes a difference. I find it soft in a quiet room, no idea how this will work out on the street. Might be forced to get a headset in that case.
Which would be a pity becaue this phone is all about audio. My speakers are perfectly fine. Why does the earpiece have to be so quiet

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