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hi all
I've heard that Leo can play FM Radio without headphone work as an antenna? I wonder at it?
Is there anyone can confirm that....
Thanks!
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
I would love the day the manufacturers could put in a antenna to allow use of the FM radio without putting in a headset.
I hate using a wired headset.
Try one of these, no need for headphones and a bit cheaper!
http://www.morgan111morgan.com/port...adios-64/jwin-am-fm-mini-radio-jxm6-3718.html
Its a phone ffs, lol
Mind you they are getting bigger, so one day you could have a £500 fm radio with built in antenna.
fresh-popcorn said:
I would love the day the manufacturers could put in a antenna to allow use of the FM radio without putting in a headset.
I hate using a wired headset.
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i dont think its as easy as just putting radio antennas inside a body of a phone.
one might have to think about interference to/from the phone antenna, wifi antenna, bluetooth antenna, gps antenna and any other antennas already present in the phone.
I don't think it's even physically possible to make an antenna small enough to fit in a phone which is sensitive enough to receive low-frequency signals like radio.
B3ler3fonte said:
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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Thanks B3ler3fonte for the info.
B3ler3fonte said:
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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fresh-popcorn said:
I would love the day the manufacturers could put in a antenna to allow use of the FM radio without putting in a headset.
I hate using a wired headset.
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thank you, guys!
anyway I totally dont like every time taking the headphone follow me..
still hope one day Leo could..
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Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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Mmm..I dont know how to say but I just heard that from someone. They said Leo could play FM Radio without headphone in new coming Rom update. Any Mods here knows it?
It is not a bad ROM, it is because of radio-frequencies all need antennas that fit their special wavelength to work.
If you use radiowaves you can use antennas that are only half or a quarter of the wavelength, so 10cm waves need 2,5 cm or 5 cm antennas.
Radiowaves in FM are about 4 m wavelength, so you need 1 m antenna!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
gatling said:
It is not a bad ROM, it is because of radio-frequencies all need antennas that fit their special wavelength to work.
If you use radiowaves you can use antennas that are only half or a quarter of the wavelength, so 10cm waves need 2,5 cm or 5 cm antennas.
Radiowaves in FM are about 4 m wavelength, so you need 1 m antenna!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
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Thanks for your answer. it's clearly..
Have a nice day! man..
mrkyo said:
thank you, guys!
anyway I totally dont like every time taking the headphone follow me..
still hope one day Leo could..
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...you can always use a std. jack with few inches of wire...
mrkyo said:
hi all
I've heard that Leo can play FM Radio without headphone work as an antenna? I wonder at it?
Is there anyone can confirm that....
Thanks!
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Hey maybe this is interesing for you, im planning to buy this when it comes out
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mw600?lc=nl&cc=nl
B3ler3fonte said:
Negative m8, Leo's FM Radio needs enclosed earphones handset to operate as an antenna.
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The FM Radio tool from the HTC Debug Tools (On the prototype phones) does work without earphones.
Also tried the tool in my release phone, als also there the fm radio worked without earphones....
just a few more months and the Sony Ericsson MW600 headset will be availlable with build in FM radio.. I have a SE HBH-DS220 at the moment and it works great sound is awesome..
I wish we could enable audioboost with A2DP
xmoo said:
The FM Radio tool from the HTC Debug Tools (On the prototype phones) does work without earphones.
Also tried the tool in my release phone, als also there the fm radio worked without earphones....
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does it recived channels and you could hear it without head phones
i don't bother the built-in FM radio. Try use WunderRadio. Internet-based radio. Of course you need unlimited data plan for this to work.
Some walkman phones have built in fm antennas like w960, and some cheap chinese phones too, i don't remembor which one though, i read their test on mobilearena long time ago, so if it is possible.
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i don't bother the built-in FM radio. Try use WunderRadio. Internet-based radio. Of course you need unlimited data plan for this to work.
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That's great, except when you are on the move and lose data coverage which is exactly what makes the FM radio useful.
I just had the july 8 nrg rom in and the fm tuner would open & receive a few channels with NO wired headset plugged in & played it though the speaker..
I want to know if the fm tuner capabilities are based on the rom in general or a specific "fm tuner driver"
Currently on kumars 2.4.1 and of course the fm wont open without a wired headset plugged in : (
Please forgive me/move thread if this is the inappropriate forum. I couldn't decide for 10 minutes, so I decided to go with the dev forum.
The FM radio: Is it going to be impossible to get it working on the N1? From what I understand the current state of play, devs have got the app working, it scans and finds stations, but it's as though the audio lines are physically not connected up (is this accurate?).
Could it be a limitation of the Alpha status of the Desire ROM being examined?
i think it is radio's fault
if google give us a new radio with fm and maybe some extra mb ram it will work just fine
eesmm said:
Please forgive me/move thread if this is the inappropriate forum. I couldn't decide for 10 minutes, so I decided to go with the dev forum.
The FM radio: Is it going to be impossible to get it working on the N1? From what I understand the current state of play, devs have got the app working, it scans and finds stations, but it's as though the audio lines are physically not connected up (is this accurate?).
Could it be a limitation of the Alpha status of the Desire ROM being examined?
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I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
And if you don't have the hardware, you don't have the hardware. Software can't magically make up for it.
It'd be like trying to get an FM signal out of a toaster.
Paul22000 said:
I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
And if you don't have the hardware, you don't have the hardware. Software can't magically make up for it.
It'd be like trying to get an FM signal out of a toaster.
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It has the hardware...there is a Gizmodo (think it was them) teardown of N1. Discusses the FM capabilities. Also...Desire and N1 have same hardware on the inside (different trackball feature and buttons..but the same). There are posts around the forums confirming this by Modaco and some others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/ was Ifixit.com, reported on engadget
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I'm pretty sure the N1 doesn't have an FM receiver in it.
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The Nexus One features a Broadcom BCM4329 chipset with "IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n system (MAC/baseband/radio) with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and FM radio receiver and transmitter" (according to Broadcom's product page).
It may not be fully connected up, or it may just be a software issue (hence my asking in this thread) but the hardware is in there.
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The Nexus One features a Broadcom BCM4329 chipset with "IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n system (MAC/baseband/radio) with Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate), and FM radio receiver and transmitter" (according to Broadcom's product page).
It may not be fully connected up, or it may just be a software issue (hence my asking in this thread) but the hardware is in there.
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What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
It's possible we may never get this feature working. Not a big deal to me, though. Pandora works fine!
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What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
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The headphones don't have the receiver in it. it simply uses the headphone cable as an Antenna just like the iPod Nano's built in radio.
pjcforpres said:
What we need is the Desire's completed ROM, and might need it's headphone with built in FM receiver as well. When yo utry and open the FM radio app, it asks you to insert headphones with a FM receiver... well, some have tried and get it to lock on stations, but no sound. Which seems to mean it is a lack of a completed ROM/app, not hardware.
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any headphone can act as radio antenna...at least it works in nokia symbian phone. no need to use specific headphone.
faizalmzain said:
any headphone can act as radio antenna...at least it works in nokia symbian phone. no need to use specific headphone.
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Yes and no... if the chip set itself has FM, which the Nexus seems to have, then this is true. But for many "dumb" phones it is the head set itself. This is why I said may need the Desires headphones, and then went on to say it seems more like a lack of a completed ROM/app, since you can tune, just no sound.
would love to see FM radio working on my N1
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would love to see FM radio working on my N1
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+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
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+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
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That's a good point.
Exactly why I have my ipod Nano..
KEVIN AND BEAN!! I MUST LISTEN TO YOU... oh yea and loveline... only reasons I would want an FM radio...
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+1... BUMP. And for all of you saying "why would you listen to FM radio? Pandora is way better" there is one show in particular here in town that I can only either stream over the internet (requires flash) or listen on the radio that would be kickass if I could catch over FM on my phone. If i want to listen to music then FM radio is definitely the last place I'll go lookin....
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not available in the UK though.
i hope we can tune in on FM soon....
I'm not sure I would use the FM radio every day, sure, but it's an important feature nonetheless. For fast local news with minimal battery drain there's nothing like having a radio handy.
Many of the on-line radio services are great/better, but require you to use precious data bandwidth, and I resent that. I don't like the idea of my phone being a gateway for the phone company to make more money off me. I spend most of my life within wifi hotspots, and use the cellular web service as little as possible. Apps, audio books, and presynched RSS feeds can pass the remaining time.
For example, I was shopping for an iPhone in the final months of '09, and the cell companies all offered to "unlock" the GPS function of the iPhone "for three months for free". Hang on, I asked, the iPhone has its own GPS, so why a) would I need them to "unlock" the capability and b) I would have to pay for my own GPS after the first three months? I learned that, while the GPS coordinates come for free, the maps are the domain of the cell company. Screw that.
One of the best features of the N1 is the built-in Google maps, and while I might be willing to pay one-time for TomTom maps or software (the best GPS OS imho) but pay every month forever, no way.
Has anyone been able to find out if the PRO has a radio in it like the X and D2?
http://androidcommunity.com/activate-the-droid-2’s-fm-radio-yes-it-has-one-20100927/
Common sites say Yes for FM Radio, but after I checked pdadb.net and motorola's developer site for Droid Pro specs - both the sites do NOT indicated FM Radio.
Now it all remains on someone who's bought the device and can let us know.
I own a Moto Pro
How can I check? (Without opening it or voiding my warrany)
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I own a Moto Pro
How can I check? (Without opening it or voiding my warrany)
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Just plug in your headset and look for the FM Radio app in Menu. If it exists then Yes there is a FM Radio if NOT we have the answers.
FM Radio within TI wlan/bluetooth chipset
Hi Droid Pro Users!
There is a light in the dark for FM Radio fans.
I just found this info from TI about the on board chipset TI 1271
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There are four solutions in the WiLink 6.0 product
offering. The WL1271 supports 802.11b/g/n in
the 2.4-GHz band, while the WL1273 supports
802.11a/b/g/n with 2.4-GHz and 5-GHz band
support. Both single-chip solutions support
Bluetooth 2.1 Release, ANT and FM transmit and
receive. The WL1271/3L support in addition to
the above, Bluetooth Low Energy Specification
4.0 + EDR.
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You will find all info here:
focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12762&contentId=29993&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=ProductBulletin+OT+wilink_6
That means the Droid Pro hardware is able to receive FM Radio and maybe also to send, but receiving would be good enough for me.
Now... who is able to build the necessary drivers?
I would love to do it but I have no idea how ;-)
Maik
Very interesting indeed!
When/if built the software and drivers would be brilliant. Maybe moto can do it if requested by many of us?
In the meantime I use tunein radio app from market, which works well using my data connection, network or wifi.
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I could bet that Motorla don't care about it.
As far as my experience with Moto is...
- they know that the chip is able to do it.
- they thought they can make it work
Result...
- maybe reception is too bad because of design flaws (chip or antenna position) -> they decided not to offer it
- maybe the marketing gang thought a FM radio is nothing for a business phone...
Anyway... I would take it even with a bad reception, but I'm sure they will not offer it.
An internet radio is not allways a good solution. You need an unlimited data plan and also a good reception. I made bad experiences during train travel and also in areas with lower reception. It sucks...
I want a real radio, please
If the transistor which taks care for FM radio is phisicaly connected, so that can use headphones as the anttena, then it is possible to have FM radio on your phone. Here is some new stuff that XDA user mikereidis have discovered about TI WL 127x chip. Maybe some developer is interested.
If you use the Sony stock FM Radio, as good as it is, Sony missed a setting when porting their Radio3.apk from the Z/ZL Qualcomm FM chip and driver to the Z2's Broadcom chip and driver.
If you live in an area with moderate signals, you will notice that although the stereo image is very wide, it doesn't get narrowed by the Broadcom chip or API as the signal strength varies. This results in a noticeable increase in background noise (hiss). Sony forgot to enable Stereo Blend....
The link below allows you to use an FM Radio app that correctly blends the stereo image automatically,
I use FM Radio a lot - this is a vast improvement.
Once you have installed the app, it will run correctly at default. If you are rooted DENY SU permission.
Note that there are some UX bugs to work out at the moment...but it works well. This is only a test release.
Spirit 1 with Z2 working: http://d-h.st/hdi
Credit to mikereidis
Remember to support dedicated developers like Mike if you like their work. Spirit FM is available via G Play. If you like the test release, buy the app.
Thanks for the post. Audio sounds great from this app. I have a weird bug with my phone though and the FM Radio. In both this app and the built in FM app, it will only play audio (through headset or speakerphone) when the screen is off. Is it supposed to be this way? Anybody else have this or know why it might be doing this? Updated to latest .314 update in Canada on an unlocked Z2.
Jeevez said:
Thanks for the post. Audio sounds great from this app. I have a weird bug with my phone though and the FM Radio. In both this app and the built in FM app, it will only play audio (through headset or speakerphone) when the screen is off. Is it supposed to be this way? Anybody else have this or know why it might be doing this? Updated to latest .314 update in Canada on an unlocked Z2.
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Weird - mine is OK in that respect
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Yeah, it didn't do it the first time I tried using the FM radio after getting the phone but recently it does. I wonder if a factory reset might fix it, I just don't feel like setting up my phone again!!
Check Google Now settings and check activate from lock screen.
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Check Google Now settings and check activate from lock screen.
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Thanks! Also found this after re-googling it today. Somebody also posted this solution on the Xperia Support forums. Guess it's the always listening "OK Google" that was messing with the FM Radio. Strange but at least I know what the issue is now! Wonder if this will be fixed with future updates to either the Google Search app or the FM Radio app?
FYI for those who care, despite what most reviews I read said, my T-mo S8 FM radio works fine: just download next radio from Google, plug in headphones for antenna and you all set.
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FYI for those who care, despite what most reviews I read said, my T-mo S8 FM radio works fine: just download next radio from Google, plug in headphones for antenna and you all set.
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Hey Thanks for that find! What a pleasant surprise to find that a FM radio tuner is included in my Galaxy S8! I just installed that "next radio" app and receiving all my local FM radio stations here in NYC area using the AKG supplied earphone cord plugged in as the antenna. The tuner even seems to be really sensitive picking up the signals really well.
What a nice bonus to have built into this T-Mobile S8 phone. I would suspect that all the other S8 variants have the radio built in also...?
AT&T here and works like a charm.
Most excellent! Kudos
If its in a tmobile phone isnt it in all of them?? seems really really odd if samsung made a phone specifically just for tmobile with different hardware in it
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If its in a tmobile phone isnt it in all of them?? seems really really odd if samsung made a phone specifically just for tmobile with different hardware in it
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Yes they all have but some carriers lock the the chip(fm receiver)
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Yes they all have but some carriers lock the the chip(fm receiver)
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great, so if i have sim free then i have fm radio!! didnt even know it had one, didnt see it in any of the specs!!
I can't see next radio on the play store though. i googled it on my pc and play store said it was not compatible with any of my devices, and refused to install. im using S8+ sim free G955F! I guess exynos doesn't have the fm receiver
I saw at least one review where it said no FM radio. Now, as far as I know all Qualcom Snapdragons have radio build in, but often they're disabled. I do not know if Exynos have it? Being on 9/11 in Manhattan and during znd after Hurricane Sandy on Long Island, having FM radio in your phone could be more than just convenience, especially that I do not have battery operated radio anymore except in a car and now in the phone.
Verizon here. FM radio is working
Anyway to get this working with bluetooth headset ?
You need wired headset to act as antenna. You could get old headphones, cut them off and try using shorter wire alone as antenna, but I do not know if you can reroute sound from headphones to speakers or BT. I used to have old phone that had a switch in menu, where sound could bypass headphones and go to speaker or BT even with headphones plugged in, but don't think S8 has this capability and it would have to be hacked somehow.
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AT&T here and works like a charm.
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It works because carrier specific S8's are actually the same model but have different software on then.
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Verizon here. FM radio is working
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I was surprised. Verizon stepped up. The carriers must have made a deal with NextRadio to get a commission when you buy a song.
Actually I think this time it was Samsung who put the foot down and told carriers how they wanted to sell their phones through them. This is why you don't have any carrier branding either
I hate how carriers can dictate their own stupid model hardware. They should all have the same hardware regardless of which carrier you have but have different software. I still hate all the carrier bloatware though.
If you flash factory binary there is an app that lets you listen without headphones, I've been trying to think of a way to get that to install on stock or get the ability to launch it since it seems to be already installed on stock. Doubt it can be done without root, but maybe someone can figure it out?
What is the name of the app?
Just says fm radio, you can just Google Samsung fm radio all the ones I try says that it conflicts with a package of the same name on stock, probably need to wait for root if it ever happens to make it work
Ddan
It's working on my S7 edge as well not only the S8. I flashed factory binary on my S8 plus and did a backup of the fm radio app and transferred to my s7 edge and guess what? Working perfectly without any problem. Thanks samsung for snapdragon chipset.
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Anyway to get this working with bluetooth headset ?
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A wired headphones should be plugged in for the FM chip to work because it acts as an antenna.