Moto Z Force - Restart Loop - Moto Z Force Questions & Answers

I'm having this issue on my 2 week old Moto Z Force.
I actually noticed a similar issue on a display model in Verizon but chalked it up to just that.. a display model in Verizon and I carried on with my purchase.
I've had a few experiences where it randomly reboots and then it's good to go again. Seems to happen more frequently when the phone is in high use, so I suspected an issue with RAM being full? The restart seems to take place at the same part of the startup animation every time.
TODAY - phone was in pocket while I was on a call for work and I felt it vibrate on a consistent interval. When off the phone, I looked at the phone and it is in a restart loop. The only thing I can do at this point is hold the Volume Down key to get into BIOs (through the rebooting loop) and then I have the following uptions:
1) Start
2) Restart Boot loader
3) Recovery Mode
4) Power Off
5) Factory Mode
6) Barcodes
7) BP Tools
8) QCOM
9) Bootloader Logs
If I sit in this menu inactive for awhile it will timeout and just shut the phone off until I turn it back on and then the loop resumes. I'm beginning to think I need to go with option 5 here... any help is appreciated...
No new apps were recently installed. I barely used my phone the morning when getting to work besides charging it to 90+/- % on my way in.
First I buy a hand grenade of a phone, forced to return, and now I buy a phone that is actually showing me a big issue (it is getting hot too). I'm going to let it sit off before trying a Factory Mode. :crying:
Video of the cycle here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7dc6erfydj87ib/Skys Phone.MOV?dl=0

Better ask in a Moto Z Force subforum.

SteveHG said:
Better ask in a Moto Z Force subforum.
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Thanks Steve. Any suggestion on where would be best? I would have thought the Q&A would be accurate...

I have had this phone for just over two month and have not had any similar issues. I assume that you've already tried options 1, 2, and and 4. Have you also gone into recovery to see if you can clear the cache?
I would personally return it as broken, but I save everything important to my SD, just in case this kind of thing happens.

I had this very same issue. I did a hardware replacement with Verizon and the new phone works great.

broprah said:
I had this very same issue. I did a hardware replacement with Verizon and the new phone works great.
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Awesome! Glad to hear that it worked out for you. Fingers crossed they don't give me a refurbished model (again, mine was 2 weeks old) and that I have the same luck as you.
rmonjay said:
I have had this phone for just over two month and have not had any similar issues. I assume that you've already tried options 1, 2, and and 4. Have you also gone into recovery to see if you can clear the cache?
I would personally return it as broken, but I save everything important to my SD, just in case this kind of thing happens.
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I have tried all of the options at this point and none of those work. I can't even get into recovery. Every option does the same thing... reboots, reboots, reboots, etc.
New phone should be here tomorrow. I've got the good old run around on this one though and I'm not happy about it with Verizon and Best Buy. Best Buy's return policy is 14 days and I ran into issues on day 16, no exceptions according to them and off to Verizon I go where I had to purchase a temporary flip phone for the week my phone has been out of commission.
I'm in need of a new SD card before I put anything on there, it has been flaky. The only thing I care about on my phone is the media (photos, videos, and music), all of which are on Google. The crap thing is that now I need to spend another X hours putting all my apps, passwords, etc. on it to my liking. Just did this when moving to the Note 7, then Moto Z Force, and now again with the replacement. Starting to get annoyed.

Update - when switching to the replacement device I found the issue followed to the new phone... Meaning the issue was with the SD card or the SIM card. Found it was an issue with the SD card after switching between the two phones and experimenting. Unreal. Who would have thought?!
I will be formatting the card and keeping this thread posted on if that resolves it or if it's time for a new card (as I mentioned above).

I am very hopeful with your post. My phone has been going crazy with the rebooting mode for two days now. I brought it into Verizon yesterday but all of a sudden (of course) it started working. Now today its gone back to rebooting, over and over and over again. 2nd day in a row I am going to waste my lunch hour and run to Verizon. This time I will ask them about a new SIM card. BTW... I just got a new (refurbished) less then a week ago.

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I am very hopeful with your post. My phone has been going crazy with the rebooting mode for two days now. I brought it into Verizon yesterday but all of a sudden (of course) it started working. Now today its gone back to rebooting, over and over and over again. 2nd day in a row I am going to waste my lunch hour and run to Verizon. This time I will ask them about a new SIM card. BTW... I just got a new (refurbished) less then a week ago.
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I just fixed my Moto Z Play by removing the SD card... for the second time... -_- I've had a previous issue where my phone rebooted as part of an update and it stopped seeing my previous SD card. After checking the SD card in various other systems, I found the SD card was completely shot. After some digging online, there is apparently an issue with the new Moto Z's that if your SD card isn't fast enough (somewhere around 85-90+ Mb/s)m, the Moto Z will slowly start to eat your SD card until it fails and causes issues for your phone. In this case, my second SD card failure was that my phone went into infinite booting loops until I removed the card. -_-
This card lasted longer, mainly I think due to the fact that it was larger and faster then my previous one, but it looks like I will need to get a new fast card.
Anyways, I hope this helps you or anyone else who comes across this thread.

About 2-3 weeks ago, the same thing started to happen to me, after that, phone started to act crazy...
-Bluetooth connection was working but glitching,
-Overheat (bottom of the phone) then started reboot in loop (until at start I'm able to turn off wifi). Did everything your supposed to do, clear cache, forget network, deleted my latest app, reboot, reboot in safe mode, remove sd/sim tray... the issues we're still there...
-After a few days of repeating all those steps (or don't know what I did), I finally got rid of the oveheat reboot loop when the wifi is on. But can only see and connect to 2,4g network, no 5g (doesn't see any) and no Bluetooth (turns on, but doesn't see anything), every other device in house works and connect like they should.
-the setting app, and the phone app started to be slow (freezes for a few seconds before the system ask you if you wanna wait or close the app, I choose wait and the app unfreeze)
-Ive tried the rsa (repair system assistant) from verizon without any fix
-finally decide to go for the factory reset. It fixed the freezing issues, works like a charm, but still no 5g wifi nor Bluetooth...
Is there a driver update possible for this ? Or because of overheat it might have damage the device...
I have the phone since September, never had any issues, went through all update, force droid edition xt1650-02, build ncl25.86-11.5, nougat 7.0 (wish verizon would update to 7.1.1 anytime soon), since its gsm unlocked, I'm using it on a Canadian network (Fido)

thanks for this thread. It was able to help me diagnose my wifes phone. The SD card she has been using since her DROID CHARGE (2011!!!) finally bit the dust in this phone. I swapped it out for a new Sandisk micro sdxc uhs-I up to 80 MB/s card class 10 and it booted. funny thing was she was not even storing pictures on the card.

Motorola Droid Z Force restarting (Bootloop)
My motorola z force has started to boot loop restarting again and again ... i have tried following
full formatting from recovery twice, phone starts well but when i turn on my wifi it keep restarting ..
if i turn my wifi off, the phone works good but as soon as i turn on my wifi boot loop starts again and again.......
i guess i need to flash the firmware but dont know how to flash new firmware ....
XDA very big name .. i need help....

alidanwer said:
My motorola z force has started to boot loop restarting again and again ... i have tried following
full formatting from recovery twice, phone starts well but when i turn on my wifi it keep restarting ..
if i turn my wifi off, the phone works good but as soon as i turn on my wifi boot loop starts again and again.......
i guess i need to flash the firmware but dont know how to flash new firmware ....
XDA very big name .. i need help....
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I've had bootloops happen a couple of times for different triggers, and I still run the phone stock since release date with no updates ever taken. This has worked to correct the issue for me a couple of times. Give it a try:
Let your phone get down below 5% battery life, then plug into the turbo charger. Then fool around with whatever triggers the reboots.
Eventually the phone will not restart because the phone's battery needs to charge a little. When phone charges beyond 10% try to turn the phone back on, and see if boot loop persists. If it persists drain below the 5% battery life and try again. Usually, when I have fooled around with this scenario two or three times the bootloop has corrected itself.
Hope this works for you. Good luck.

Thanku, I will definitle give it a try .... and i am updated to nougat all updates till date installed...

Still restarts.... its been a month... without solution..

alidanwer said:
Still restarts.... its been a month... without solution..
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A couple of weeks ago, the restart loop happened to me again, and my usual tinkering while connecting and disconnecting Turbo Charger wouldn't work. So I did some research on "stuck power button" or "power button not working".
I did the following:
I blew with my mouth over the power button (kind of like puting your lips in position to whistle)
I also gently tried to clasp the power button using a pair of tweezers, but couldn't. Instead I just kind of lifted/tugged-on the power button from the top and bottom.
I feel like I didn't really do anything, but the phone has been working for over a week now. Maybe pure luck.
Its weird, this made me think it is a hardware issue, but somehow the phone reacts as if it were software related.
Give it a try. Hope you have some luck.

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Does your SGS ever turn itself off randomly?

Since I have got it (2 weeks ago) i have picked up my phone make a call, and on about 7-8 occasions, have noticed that the phone is turned off, and I can't get it to turn on. The only solution is to take out the battery and put it back in. Has anyone else experienced this. I have updated to JH2 firmware, but it still happens. I even got a new battery for the phone (Bell employee let me swap with another phone that was going back to samsung for gps issues), but the problem still happens once in awhile (like every 2 days, sometimes more sometimes less). Anyone have any ideas? thanks
More likely that it just "freezes" and you can't get it to react, then the solution is to take out and back in the battery - Sounds like a defective unit to me.
i think your phone was unable to wake? i have that problem previously where i can still call through my phone (using another phone) but there's no vibration / notifications of sorts.
i then realized i've been playing with SetCPU of late, long story short, i uninstalled the application, rebooted and all is fine since then.
good luck!
if it still persists, i'd do a reflash, wipe every bit of data available + formatting my SD cards. lol.
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i think your phone was unable to wake? i have that problem previously where i can still call through my phone (using another phone) but there's no vibration / notifications of sorts.
i then realized i've been playing with SetCPU of late, long story short, i uninstalled the application, rebooted and all is fine since then.
good luck!
if it still persists, i'd do a reflash, wipe every bit of data available + formatting my SD cards. lol.
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So..are you saying that the phone is actually still 'on'...just the screen is not turning on?
yeee sort of. lol. but why it's unable to answer, yet able to receive calls. i have no idea. same goes for any kind of notification that wakes your screen (SMS, calls, alarm, etc.)
Next time it happens, i'll try calling the phone to see what happens...I dont wanna return it because I have a 'rare' phone that seems to have good gps and can enter recovery mode.
you should check bell to see if there working and have recovery mode i got my just recently the newer shipments are hopefully all working with recovery mode and good gps
Did you install any Lockscreen app or something similar? I´ve read about another guy who had similar problems with a not waking up device. And it was a lockscreen app that caused this.
Yeah, I agree with everyone. I had SetCPU on my device and it would shut off a bunch of times per day. After I unintalled it everything worked fine. Another trick you can try is when the phone "freezes" try to hold down the home key. You sould still get the task manager box.
My first SGS did this a lot. My second and third SGS have not done this. Conclusion: faulty.
Yep...
I'm with mine for more than three weeks now, and I've never managed to cause it to freeze/shut down. although yours considerable rare, You'd rather have a working device I presume...
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Did you install any Lockscreen app or something similar? I´ve read about another guy who had similar problems with a not waking up device. And it was a lockscreen app that caused this.
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No, i haven't installed any apps like that. Like i said, GPS works 'ok' on this phone and it enters recovery mode. Thats why I would hope its a software thing and can be fixed. I will go back to get an exchange today ONLY if they let me try it out 1st (recovery mode).
I've had this happen twice, both times I was charging the phone with the screen locked and the cable was accidentally violently jerked out, after that my phone wouldn't turn back on without a battery pull. It has not happened of it's own accord though.

Note 4 Randomly Turned Off Won't Turn On Anymore

Hi everyone, after trying everything I could to fix this phone I don't know what to do anymore so I'm here asking for other options.
So the story is, I was just using my phone as I usually would that day and it just randomly turned off and won't turn back on anymore.
(it randomly turned off before a couple of times but it would always turn back on)
- It won't go into recovery mode or any other of the 'modes' (I tried all the different combinations of pressing the keys).
- It's not a battery issue as I've tried my battery on my brother's phone (he has a Note 4 too) and it worked fine and I tried his battery on mine and it wouldn't work.
- I tried the 'drain' method (removing the battery and holding the power button for a minute or more).
- I tried using multiple cables to charge my phone nothing worked.
I didn't drop my phone, wet it, root it or anything and it was working fine the day it happened until it just powered off by itself. When I plug it in my laptop it would make
a sound indicating I've plugged something in but nothing happens. It was version 5.1.1 model SM-N910F.
TLDR; Is there a way to somehow recover the files in the internal phone memory?
This is happening to me as well, also started in February. I'm suspecting a hardware issue. Tried it ALL but rooting. In the past 30 minutes my phone has booted and rebooted itself till it died. If someone can confirm it is a hardware issue. Maybe it's time to unite and get it fixed for free. ~Tamarnouche
Recovering data from a brain dead phone may not be possible, as it probably need some internal component replacement which may erase the data(Mostly). Have u tried connecting it to pc? Better give it to service immediately. Good Luck.
My phone has done exactly the same thing, happened in February too, initially it did the random freeze then started to reboot itself, went back to stock software and full wipe but no improvement; now it will only boot if I leave the battery out for a prolonged period, otherwise it doesn't respond to the power button at all.
I occasionally see MMC Read Fail on boot but not all the time so presumably the internal memory has a bad contact or is failing.
Can it be replaced?
HXOY said:
My phone has done exactly the same thing, happened in February too, initially it did the random freeze then started to reboot itself, went back to stock software and full wipe but no improvement; now it will only boot if I leave the battery out for a prolonged period, otherwise it doesn't respond to the power button at all.
I occasionally see MMC Read Fail on boot but not all the time so presumably the internal memory has a bad contact or is failing.
Can it be replaced?
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I have the same problem with my Note 3. Only if I keep the battery out for a long (over 24 hours) time I can see the boot logo. So if you find a solution to this kindly don't forget to tag me, will really appreciate it.
I was wondering..
I came across this Forum group since I was looking for boot problems with my SM-N910T3
I hope flashing pit will resolve this..
I recently started to have some low level issue and was hoping it was partition/boot related and not hardware.
Randomly phone boot directly into Download mode with error;
ddi: mmc_read failed
Often I have to pull battery and hold down /power / home for 10 sec to boot up again.
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Galaxy Note 4 constant freezing & restarting!

Hi there,
So my galaxy note 4 is having some serious problems for the last couple of days and it's really starting to bother me. I've tried doing everything I can find online so far but to no avail I've had no luck at all. Basically, my phone constantly keeps freezing and restarting. It will crash for quite a period of time then restart itself, crash and restart. It probably crashes and freezes about 80-90 times a day? More if I'm trying to use it of course (It also resets itself when not using it).
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it. Got to the point where I seen online about doing a factory reset so I backed everything up to my computer, started the factory reset and when I was going through the setup of logging into google and samsung account, it continues to crash and freeze all over again. (It crashed & restarted whilst retrieving my apps from google, thus I had to reinstall my apps again manually after I finally got it setup again).
To make matters worse, I cancelled the insurance cover last month and only a few days ago this started happening. I've not dropped the phone or damaged it in anyway, screen is completely perfect too. It just constantly crashes and restarts on it's own. Get a phone call and it crashes, using google maps, crash. It's beyond unusable now. I still have 4 months left of the contract before I'm due an upgrade and I really don't think it will last me that long.
Can someone PLEASE help? Suggestions would be so helpful!!!
Thank you!
P.S Phone isn't rooted, only using Nova Launcher prime.
Sounds like your battery is on its way out. Have you tried a new battery?
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tiguy99 said:
Sounds like your battery is on its way out. Have you tried a new battery?
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QCube said:
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it.
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Earlier in the week I had an error I've not seen before. Phone restarted and went to black screen sort of looking at a recovery screen with android logo and in the centre of the screen was the message
"Kernal Panic" with some information on the top. This only has happened the one time and hasn't happened since. Took the battery out and restarted again...
Try hardreset or flash via odin
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Try hardreset or flash via odin
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How do I go about doing either of these....
Still happening and it's driving me insane, It won't last me until the end of my contract (January)
Its rebooting 80-90 times in ONE day? Good god! Have the phone turned off then. Unnecessary pressure is being put on the phone mate!
Factory Reset isn't going to solve it anyway, its for tiny problems. Your system is somehow messed up badly.
Do what the above member said. Flash a stock ROM via Odin. But before that you need to completely wipe the phone. To completely wipe you need a custom recovery like TWRP. So flash it now, root the phone, then reboot into TWRP and use the Advanced Wipe section to wipe everything (external SD not needed), then reboot the phone in Download mode, and flash the latest stock ROM via Odin.
You are now part of a large group of us having the same issues. Several things have been tried. One thought is that the motherboard is faulty. Replacing it would be expensive. Download the app "wake lock" and set it to partial_wake_lock. Don't ask me why it works, but it does. Apparently the phone goes nuts when the screen tries to go off, the partial lock keeps it from crashing. That makes the phone usable, hopefully a permanent solution will become available. ;( The only time it goes nutty again is if the battery runs down and when I restart, the app is not running. Going back to the back and setting it to partial has allowed me to play games, etc for extended periods of time and no problems. It shouldn't be that way, and I really suspect the marshmallow update and then security update screwed it up, it was fine before that.
QCube said:
Hi there,
So my galaxy note 4 is having some serious problems for the last couple of days and it's really starting to bother me. I've tried doing everything I can find online so far but to no avail I've had no luck at all. Basically, my phone constantly keeps freezing and restarting. It will crash for quite a period of time then restart itself, crash and restart. It probably crashes and freezes about 80-90 times a day? More if I'm trying to use it of course (It also resets itself when not using it).
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it. Got to the point where I seen online about doing a factory reset so I backed everything up to my computer, started the factory reset and when I was going through the setup of logging into google and samsung account, it continues to crash and freeze all over again. (It crashed & restarted whilst retrieving my apps from google, thus I had to reinstall my apps again manually after I finally got it setup again).
To make matters worse, I cancelled the insurance cover last month and only a few days ago this started happening. I've not dropped the phone or damaged it in anyway, screen is completely perfect too. It just constantly crashes and restarts on it's own. Get a phone call and it crashes, using google maps, crash. It's beyond unusable now. I still have 4 months left of the contract before I'm due an upgrade and I really don't think it will last me that long.
Can someone PLEASE help? Suggestions would be so helpful!!!
Thank you!
P.S Phone isn't rooted, only using Nova Launcher prime.
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Which version is your note 4? verizon? att? tmobile? sprint? etc united states variant? other country? This helps find out if others that are having the same problem are on the same setup as you and more importantly tells me if I'm likely to have a problem with mine getting ready to come. :laugh:
ithehappy said:
Its rebooting 80-90 times in ONE day? Good god! Have the phone turned off then. Unnecessary pressure is being put on the phone mate!
Factory Reset isn't going to solve it anyway, its for tiny problems. Your system is somehow messed up badly.
Do what the above member said. Flash a stock ROM via Odin. But before that you need to completely wipe the phone. To completely wipe you need a custom recovery like TWRP. So flash it now, root the phone, then reboot into TWRP and use the Advanced Wipe section to wipe everything (external SD not needed), then reboot the phone in Download mode, and flash the latest stock ROM via Odin.
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80-90 times in one day is probably being generous. I've not actually counted how many times it restarts but If I need to use my phone I can guarantee it will be restarting a couple of times. Driving using navigation *Crashes* Inbound phone call *Crashes* get text message *crashes* all followed by the phone restarting. Practically unusable.
phonepie said:
Which version is your note 4? verizon? att? tmobile? sprint? etc united states variant? other country? This helps find out if others that are having the same problem are on the same setup as you and more importantly tells me if I'm likely to have a problem with mine getting ready to come. :laugh:
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Vodafone UK - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / SM-N910F running Android 6.0.1
grizzylemon said:
You are now part of a large group of us having the same issues. Several things have been tried. One thought is that the motherboard is faulty. Replacing it would be expensive. Download the app "wake lock" and set it to partial_wake_lock. Don't ask me why it works, but it does. Apparently the phone goes nuts when the screen tries to go off, the partial lock keeps it from crashing. That makes the phone usable, hopefully a permanent solution will become available. ;( The only time it goes nutty again is if the battery runs down and when I restart, the app is not running. Going back to the back and setting it to partial has allowed me to play games, etc for extended periods of time and no problems. It shouldn't be that way, and I really suspect the marshmallow update and then security update screwed it up, it was fine before that.
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I'm gonna give this a go and hopefully it'll help! Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, for a couple of months the phone has been prevented from the screen going off. I get a text or a notification and the screen would stay on until I hit the power button to turn it back off. Get a text in the middle of the night and I'd wake up to a boiling hot phone the next day, almost too hot to even keep in the hands. This literally frustrated me beyond belief and had to get a new battery and all sorts of complications. Also you mention the android update which made me think, I NEVER had this issue before I installed the security update for 6.0.1 - I put my money on something really stupid that's sincerely knackered my phone for certain!
While upgrading a phone, especially for major upgrades like from LP to MM, OTA method should always be avoided. You MUST do a clean flash of the ROM, otherwise you are bound to have problems. 80% of time people complain because they didn't flash the ROM cleanly, so whatever you want to do now, do it, but if it doesn't solve it (very likely it won't), then kindly flash the ROM via Odin after a full wipe. And if even that doesn't solve it then its hardware.
QCube said:
80-90 times in one day is probably being generous. I've not actually counted how many times it restarts but If I need to use my phone I can guarantee it will be restarting a couple of times. Driving using navigation *Crashes* Inbound phone call *Crashes* get text message *crashes* all followed by the phone restarting. Practically unusable.
Vodafone UK - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / SM-N910F running Android 6.0.1
I'm gonna give this a go and hopefully it'll help! Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, for a couple of months the phone has been prevented from the screen going off. I get a text or a notification and the screen would stay on until I hit the power button to turn it back off. Get a text in the middle of the night and I'd wake up to a boiling hot phone the next day, almost too hot to even keep in the hands. This literally frustrated me beyond belief and had to get a new battery and all sorts of complications. Also you mention the android update which made me think, I NEVER had this issue before I installed the security update for 6.0.1 - I put my money on something really stupid that's sincerely knackered my phone for certain!
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Thanks for letting me know your version. Hopefully it wont affect mine since mine is US Verizon. But out of curiosity have you checked for even the slightest sticky button? I've had phones where a button started to get tacky and would cause it to keep the screen on or go on and off like what you're saying. May not even feel like a sticky button. Do they all click very responsive? or do any feel like they have a dull thud experience?
phonepie said:
Thanks for letting me know your version. Hopefully it wont affect mine since mine is US Verizon. But out of curiosity have you checked for even the slightest sticky button? I've had phones where a button started to get tacky and would cause it to keep the screen on or go on and off like what you're saying. May not even feel like a sticky button. Do they all click very responsive? or do any feel like they have a dull thud experience?
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The volume rocker and power button feel really loose but this isn't really something new. Something I have noticed is when I take the cover off the back, the battery barely stays in itself. If holding screen upwards and battery cover off then It doesn't hold the battery which made me possibly think that perhaps the battery does not situate properly and doesn't deliver enough power (or too much) but this was just one of my theories into why the hell my phone is acting this way.
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Forgot to add I'm running the security patch 01/08/2016
QCube said:
The volume rocker and power button feel really loose but this isn't really something new. Something I have noticed is when I take the cover off the back, the battery barely stays in itself. If holding screen upwards and battery cover off then It doesn't hold the battery which made me possibly think that perhaps the battery does not situate properly and doesn't deliver enough power (or too much) but this was just one of my theories into why the hell my phone is acting this way.
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Forgot to add I'm running the security patch 01/08/2016
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Are you able to wedge a folded small piece of paper between the bottom edge of the battery and the phone to make the battery fit tighter? I mean it's not good to have a loose battery. But I can't see how that would cause the screen to stay on. If anything I would think it would cause the phone to shut off or reboot.
QCube said:
80-90 times in one day is probably being generous. I've not actually counted how many times it restarts but If I need to use my phone I can guarantee it will be restarting a couple of times. Driving using navigation *Crashes* Inbound phone call *Crashes* get text message *crashes* all followed by the phone restarting. Practically unusable.
Vodafone UK - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / SM-N910F running Android 6.0.1
I'm gonna give this a go and hopefully it'll help! Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, for a couple of months the phone has been prevented from the screen going off. I get a text or a notification and the screen would stay on until I hit the power button to turn it back off. Get a text in the middle of the night and I'd wake up to a boiling hot phone the next day, almost too hot to even keep in the hands. This literally frustrated me beyond belief and had to get a new battery and all sorts of complications. Also you mention the android update which made me think, I NEVER had this issue before I installed the security update for 6.0.1 - I put my money on something really stupid that's sincerely knackered my phone for certain!
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Let me know how it goes. There are other threads about same issue. Most of us have tried reflashing, wiping everything, custom roms, going back to stock, trying to downgrade, taking out the sim card, taking out the sd card, not having both in at same time, brand new battery, I think even putting the battery in the freezer momentarily, etc. etc. Nobody seems to have had any real luck with it, except those who were under warranty and got a new phone, or are capable and wiling to exchange some hardware. I just find it odd that it happened all of a sudden after updates and recently to many people.. Still, I keep coming here hoping someone will have great news. Mine started with marshmallow, but definitely got worse with the security update.
grizzylemon said:
Let me know how it goes. There are other threads about same issue. Most of us have tried reflashing, wiping everything, custom roms, going back to stock, trying to downgrade, taking out the sim card, taking out the sd card, not having both in at same time, brand new battery, I think even putting the battery in the freezer momentarily, etc. etc. Nobody seems to have had any real luck with it, except those who were under warranty and got a new phone, or are capable and wiling to exchange some hardware. I just find it odd that it happened all of a sudden after updates and recently to many people.. Still, I keep coming here hoping someone will have great news. Mine started with marshmallow, but definitely got worse with the security update.
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why don't you reflash you device with supported PIT file and stock F.W ?
QCube said:
Hi there,
So my galaxy note 4 is having some serious problems for the last couple of days and it's really starting to bother me. I've tried doing everything I can find online so far but to no avail I've had no luck at all. Basically, my phone constantly keeps freezing and restarting. It will crash for quite a period of time then restart itself, crash and restart. It probably crashes and freezes about 80-90 times a day? More if I'm trying to use it of course (It also resets itself when not using it).
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it. Got to the point where I seen online about doing a factory reset so I backed everything up to my computer, started the factory reset and when I was going through the setup of logging into google and samsung account, it continues to crash and freeze all over again. (It crashed & restarted whilst retrieving my apps from google, thus I had to reinstall my apps again manually after I finally got it setup again).
To make matters worse, I cancelled the insurance cover last month and only a few days ago this started happening. I've not dropped the phone or damaged it in anyway, screen is completely perfect too. It just constantly crashes and restarts on it's own. Get a phone call and it crashes, using google maps, crash. It's beyond unusable now. I still have 4 months left of the contract before I'm due an upgrade and I really don't think it will last me that long.
Can someone PLEASE help? Suggestions would be so helpful!!!
Thank you!
P.S Phone isn't rooted, only using Nova Launcher prime.
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Aside from the previously proposed wake lock solution, members in the T-Mobile Note 4 threads have experienced limited success with a downgrade to LP from MM.
From my reading, these issues seem to be common across all Snapdragon models, not to say it Exynos is excluded (I don't frequent Exynos threads).
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himuslg123 said:
why don't you reflash you device with supported PIT file and stock F.W ?
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I tried that and it didn't work for me. The only surefire solution is a replacement device, but even then there's no guarantee the device won't start acting up in the future.
pls help stuck in download mode
this is the issue I'm getting...I did a complete data wipe using twrp...now stuck on this screen...cant even push files...device not recognized in adb or fastboot mode....
what to do...??
imgur(dot)com/a/gKPaL
Well a new motherboard was the only thing that fixed it for me, replaced under the 2 year warranty but I had to wait a while for parts. What is interesting is that the phone is much faster, the battery life much better than when it was new. Also it now barely gets warm using google maps - before it got quite hot. It would be very interesting to find out what percentage of Note 4's have been going down with is problem - mine was a fairly early one - was Samsung rushing to beat Apple two years ago and a bad batch of parts used? I don't know -we need some answers on what is the problem to be sure.
Just a personal experience and thus advice, please don't keep flashing bunch of stuffs every other day. The more your eMMC gets used more chance of your phone getting messed up. This is how my Note 3 died, kept flashing this and that, and did the same on Note 4 too, but have now stopped. I don't know whether there's an endurance rating on these eMMCs used or not but this is what I think, I could be wrong, please quote me in that case.
hathertonwood said:
Well a new motherboard was the only thing that fixed it for me, replaced under the 2 year warranty but I had to wait a while for parts. What is interesting is that the phone is much faster, the battery life much better than when it was new. Also it now barely gets warm using google maps - before it got quite hot. It would be very interesting to find out what percentage of Note 4's have been going down with is problem - mine was a fairly early one - was Samsung rushing to beat Apple two years ago and a bad batch of parts used? I don't know -we need some answers on what is the problem to be sure.
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Wow, that sounds promising. I'm sending mine for replacement, and although I'm not getting a new MB installed, hopefully the incoming unit will be similar in performance to yours.
ithehappy said:
Just a personal experience and thus advice, please don't keep flashing bunch of stuffs every other day. The more your eMMC gets used more chance of your phone getting messed up. This is how my Note 3 died, kept flashing this and that, and did the same on Note 4 too, but have now stopped. I don't know whether there's an endurance rating on these eMMCs used or not but this is what I think, I could be wrong, please quote me in that case.
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Your reasoning sounds plausible, but my phone suffered similar issues and I only flashed my unit 2-3 times in the 14 months I had it.

Help! Bootlooping out of the blue for NO reason

So... For no explainable reason my phone has gone into a bootloop, simply from me attempting to restart the phone.
Details of anything I can think of that might be related are below. I need a genius to help me A) figure out WHY this happend, B) help me figure out if there is a way to (non-destructively) get out of this bootloop (i.e. NOT having to do a factory reset), and / or C) tell me if there is a way that I can perform a full system backup using ADB, Fastboot or Odin with a phone that can't get past recovery or bootloader without going into an endless bootloop. I'm not a lazy guy and normally take the time to research problems and figure them out on my own, however at present this is my only activated phone, it's almost 11pm, I have to be up and out the door at 6am tomorrow, I will be judging competitions all day and will not have any opportunity to do anything about this until late tomorrow... In the meantime, I need a functioning PH1!!
My PH1 is the Sprint variant and I have not rooted it nor have I unlocked the bootloader. The only thing I have "done" to the phone is to sideload the latest OTA, NMJ32F (the day it came out, over a week ago, and it's functioned perfectly since that update). My phone has been in use throughout the day today with no difficulties. I went into a building with very spotty service for several hours this evening. On the way home, I noticed that I was stuck in 3G service, despite being in an area I know has good 4G/LTE coverage. I also noticed an unidentified icon on the status bar, a rectangle, which was located (I believe) to the right of the battery icon. It looked like a rectangle, perhaps representing a screen, or a phone? IDK. The other item of note is that I did sign into the guest account on my phone so that my daughter could use the stopwatch for timing competetion events without tampering with anything. She didn't drop it or get it wet or anything along those lines... she used it to time events, returned it to me in perfect shape. I logged out of the guest account, back into my account, rebooted to try to get the phone back into 4G service, and boom, I'm stuck in a frigging bootloop for no apparent reason.... And I'm about to lose my mind over this.
I CAN get into download mode and into recovery mode by holding the appropriate button combinations when it loops, but from there whether I power off and power on again or whether I select reboot from recovery menu, it continues to loop...
Well folks, still strange, still unexplained, but I had to bite the bullet and factory reset, just can't afford to wait. I'm still open to any thoughts on what might have gone wrong though I suspect we'll never know. This phone has been a bit buggy from day 1, things like BT randomly shutting off, VoLTE wouldn't stay enabled, etc... Hopefully this is the last time this happens. Still love the phone though!
So I am running O beta rooted and last night this happened to me. I ended up going into fastboot and starting OS through there and I had no issue with the reboot bootloop. However, last night I went to bed with a phone @ 75-80% and woke up 6 hours later with a dead phone. Charged and rebooted this morn and everything seemed normal today. It was super wierd
Had to return mine for this very reason. Less than a week in service and went into boot loop. The reboot happened after it lost all battery power (corrupt filesystem?). Several factory resets did nothing to fix it. Removed the SIM. The phone was also fully charged. Did not try ADB as it was brand new and a return was the safest easiest option.
ccopelan said:
Well folks, still strange, still unexplained, but I had to bite the bullet and factory reset, just can't afford to wait. I'm still open to any thoughts on what might have gone wrong though I suspect we'll never know. This phone has been a bit buggy from day 1, things like BT randomly shutting off, VoLTE wouldn't stay enabled, etc... Hopefully this is the last time this happens. Still love the phone though!
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Any issues since factory resetting? I'm having the same issue. Not sure if i should just return the phone or not.
chray1 said:
Any issues since factory resetting? I'm having the same issue. Not sure if i should just return the phone or not.
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I am stuck with the same problem, and this is my second phone already. This one doesn't stay on long enough even for an attempt to factory reset. I will send it back again, but I have no hope. Time to cut my losses and move on. Going to Pixel. And I sooo wanted Essential to succeed!
fhlutiis said:
I am stuck with the same problem, and this is my second phone already. This one doesn't stay on long enough even for an attempt to factory reset. I will send it back again, but I have no hope. Time to cut my losses and move on. Going to Pixel. And I sooo wanted Essential to succeed!
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interesting.
If it's your second phone, have you looked at what applications you install?
The probability of getting two bad phones is pretty slim unless there is a major manufacturing flaw.
Not saying it can't happen, but it would be unusual.
Could it be due to Encrypted Data partition?
It once happened to me on a Huawei Mate 2 which I encrypted data and battery dead, then bootloop.
If that's due to corrupt encrypted partition, there seems only other recovery mode can help you get some files back.

Random boot loops on new Redmi Note 7 (Stock 10.3.5 MiUI non root)

Saturday night, I plug my 1 week old phone on the charger at 9%. I power off the phone and see the battery charging animation. I turned it back on as usual but this time my phone did something I've never seen before.
It started bootlooping!
I was like what the hell.
It loaded up to the lock screen and then rebooted. This happened over and over again for about an hour.
After googling, I found a thread about a Redni Note 5 pro having the same issue.
The solution was to hold power and Volume down until the phone rebooted to recovery.
After doing that, I was presented with the option to reboot to system, wipe phone (which I definitely didn't want) and connect to My Assistant.
I chose the first option and sure enough....my phone was stuck in a boot loop once again.
This is my first Xiaomi phone. It's not rooted at all and has locked bootloader on the stock 10.3.5 ROM. Fresh out the box...just a few apps, some photos and texts.
I've seen stuff like this before happen with rooted phones but never on a brand new non rooted phone.
Fortunately (and with lots of prayer), I was able to let the phone battery drain out completely since it wouldn't power off.
Sunday morning, I plugged it back on the charger and to my surprise, I saw the battery animation only this time!
After charging fully, I turned it on and saw it bootlooping again. After 5 mins, I decided to remove both my SIM tray with both SIM and micro SD.
THIS time, the phone stopped bootlooping entirely! Again....what the hell was my question ?.
Normally, my nerves are steel but yesterday, they were more like spaghetti lol
Against my own judgement, I wanted to test if it was my own SIM card causing the issue or if my micro SD card caused the issue.
I placed the SIM try back in with each card 1 by 1 however, the phone immediately started bootlooping on it's own right from system!
I've never seen this before with any other phone or brand I've used in the past.
This activity occurred again and again regardless which card was inserted. With no cards, the phone worked normally.
I decided, you know what, at this point, I'm going to back up my data during and factory reset since now I have access.
Thank God that worked!
After many hours of backing up data, factory resetting my phone and then restoring everything on Mother's Day ( which meant working around free time and planned activities with my Wife), I am happy to say my phone is back working normally with the same SIM card and Micro SD as if nothing happened.
Fluke or not, definitely going to be watching this phone carefully to see if the problem is gone for good.
I will say this, when I first took the phone out the box last week, I turned it on and watched it update to MiUI 10.3.5. Normally I factory reset my phones after updates to be safe but since the phone was still new, I did not factory reset this time. That could be the reason it did this...I'm still not sure.
Sometimes I power my phones off, connect the charger and turn them on. For years I've never had an issue or doing it this way. For a few days I didn't have an issue with my Redmi Note 7 either. After this experience, I will stop doing that entirely.
My question is, have any of you encountered random random boot loops with any of your Xiaomi products? How did it occur and how did you fix it?
Got the same problem, fixed it the same way
tiguy99 said:
Saturday night, I plug my 1 week old phone on the charger at 9%. I power off the phone and see the battery charging animation. I turned it back on as usual but this time my phone did something I've never seen before.
It started bootlooping!
I was like what the hell.
It loaded up to the lock screen and then rebooted. This happened over and over again for about an hour.
After googling, I found a thread about a Redni Note 5 pro having the same issue.
The solution was to hold power and Volume down until the phone rebooted to recovery.
After doing that, I was presented with the option to reboot to system, wipe phone (which I definitely didn't want) and connect to My Assistant.
I chose the first option and sure enough....my phone was stuck in a boot loop once again.
This is my first Xiaomi phone. It's not rooted at all and has locked bootloader on the stock 10.3.5 ROM. Fresh out the box...just a few apps, some photos and texts.
I've seen stuff like this before happen with rooted phones but never on a brand new non rooted phone.
Fortunately (and with lots of prayer), I was able to let the phone battery drain out completely since it wouldn't power off.
Sunday morning, I plugged it back on the charger and to my surprise, I saw the battery animation only this time!
After charging fully, I turned it on and saw it bootlooping again. After 5 mins, I decided to remove both my SIM tray with both SIM and micro SD.
THIS time, the phone stopped bootlooping entirely! Again....what the hell was my question .
Normally, my nerves are steel but yesterday, they were more like spaghetti lol
Against my own judgement, I wanted to test if it was my own SIM card causing the issue or if my micro SD card caused the issue.
I placed the SIM try back in with each card 1 by 1 however, the phone immediately started bootlooping on it's own right from system!
I've never seen this before with any other phone or brand I've used in the past.
This activity occurred again and again regardless which card was inserted. With no cards, the phone worked normally.
I decided, you know what, at this point, I'm going to back up my data during and factory reset since now I have access.
Thank God that worked!
After many hours of backing up data, factory resetting my phone and then restoring everything on Mother's Day ( which meant working around free time and planned activities with my Wife), I am happy to say my phone is back working normally with the same SIM card and Micro SD as if nothing happened.
Fluke or not, definitely going to be watching this phone carefully to see if the problem is gone for good.
I will say this, when I first took the phone out the box last week, I turned it on and watched it update to MiUI 10.3.5. Normally I factory reset my phones after updates to be safe but since the phone was still new, I did not factory reset this time. That could be the reason it did this...I'm still not sure.
Sometimes I power my phones off, connect the charger and turn them on. For years I've never had an issue or doing it this way. For a few days I didn't have an issue with my Redmi Note 7 either. After this experience, I will stop doing that entirely.
My question is, have any of you encountered random random boot loops with any of your Xiaomi products? How did it occur and how did you fix it?
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Hello,
today I got the same issue as you stated above.
I tried to remove the SIM card (while the phone is on) and the phone brought me to the startscreen instantly. Inserting the SIM card caused the bootloop again ..
I googled this issue and found this thread,
went into the Recovery mode (Power + Volume Up) and did the Data Wipe.
Consequently, I could start the phone with my SIM card without problems ..
Later I found out, that removing the "Telephone"-permission from the "Contacts and dialer" app caused the bootloop.
(On my Stock 10.3.4 MiUI non root)
Greeting,
Dorian Rec
Dorian Rec said:
Hello,
today I got the same issue as you stated above.
I tried to remove the SIM card (while the phone is on) and the phone brought me to the startscreen instantly. Inserting the SIM card caused the bootloop again ..
I googled this issue and found this thread,
went into the Recovery mode (Power + Volume Up) and did the Data Wipe.
Consequently, I could start the phone with my SIM card without problems ..
Later I found out, that removing the "Telephone"-permission from the "Contacts and dialer" app caused the bootloop.
(On my Stock 10.3.4 MiUI non root)
Greeting,
Dorian Rec
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Adding all permissions in contacts& dialer is the solution - you saved my day!
man ... it saved my life thanks a lot. it 100% worked.
That is awesome!
Glad I could help out.
Talk about scary situation....caused by a simple glitch in Miui 10.3.5.
Wonder if the fixed it with the updates...
To scared to update right now since everything has been running smoothly since on my 10.3.5 phone.
Can anyone else share of this problem still occurs on newer versions?
Dorian Rec said:
Hello,
today I got the same issue as you stated above.
I tried to remove the SIM card (while the phone is on) and the phone brought me to the startscreen instantly. Inserting the SIM card caused the bootloop again ..
I googled this issue and found this thread,
went into the Recovery mode (Power + Volume Up) and did the Data Wipe.
Consequently, I could start the phone with my SIM card without problems ..
Later I found out, that removing the "Telephone"-permission from the "Contacts and dialer" app caused the bootloop.
(On my Stock 10.3.4 MiUI non root)
Greeting,
Dorian Rec
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tiguy99 said:
That is awesome!
Glad I could help out.
Talk about scary situation....caused by a simple glitch in Miui 10.3.5.
Wonder if the fixed it with the updates...
To scared to update right now since everything has been running smoothly since on my 10.3.5 phone.
Can anyone else share of this problem still occurs on newer versions?
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10.3.6 PFGEUXM here - no glitch so far
Hi mine went on a bootloop but I have removed my sim and SD card and it continues to be on bootloop. Since I have a lot of data I can't do wipe data. Can you guys help me
Hello,
I am having the same issue of boot looping on my Redmi note 7 PRO. I also want to enter boot menu so atleast I can do anything, but doing force shut down (Volume down+power) I came across "FASTBOOT" mode. To get out of that I pressed and hold the power button for a while and it went again in a boop loop. Can you guys please help, I am still not able to turn it on.
Greeting,
Akash Parmar.
Akashparmar1999 said:
Hello,
I am having the same issue of boot looping on my Redmi note 7 PRO. I also want to enter boot menu so atleast I can do anything, but doing force shut down (Volume down+power) I came across "FASTBOOT" mode. To get out of that I pressed and hold the power button for a while and it went again in a boop loop. Can you guys please help, I am still not able to turn it on.
Greeting,
Akash Parmar.
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most probably removing the "Telephone"-permission from the "Contacts and dialer" app is causing the bootloop - remove SIM and data card, start phone, fix the settings issue the get back the SIM
bootloop on my global version of redmi note 7
BThis last monday after all day work. I sat down and watch on youtube and after a few minutes my phone suddenly went black and when i turn it on it gets stuck on the logo redmi by Xiaomi then turns off.up until now i cant Open my phone. Pls help me resolve this matter. Thanks
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BThis last monday after all day work. I sat down and watch on youtube and after a few minutes my phone suddenly went black and when i turn it on it gets stuck on the logo redmi by Xiaomi then turns off.up until now i cant Open my phone. Pls help me resolve this matter. Thanks
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did you take off the card memory and sim?
Hi,
I am also facing the same problem since yesterday ecening, when I turn restarted my phone it gets stuck on the logo redmi by Xiaomi then turns off.up until now i cant Open my phone.
Also, I am unable to enter the fastboot or fatory reset menu as the fastboot menu ony flashes for a second and it again goes into the infinite loop.
Pls help me resolve this matter, any poiner would be appreciated. Thanks
hbhasin said:
Hi,
I am also facing the same problem since yesterday ecening, when I turn restarted my phone it gets stuck on the logo redmi by Xiaomi then turns off.up until now i cant Open my phone.
Also, I am unable to enter the fastboot or fatory reset menu as the fastboot menu ony flashes for a second and it again goes into the infinite loop.
Pls help me resolve this matter, any poiner would be appreciated. Thanks
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How you solved this issue?
It's MIUI 11.0.1 still the same problem
Ok I updated my phone to MIUI 11.0.1 it still has the same problem but thanks to everyone in this thread I
finally fixed this problem that kinda scared the crap out of me.
Thanks Everyone
I did not know this was a thing until last night. I'm on MIUI 11.0.9
My phone restarted out of nowhere and then my flash light came on by itself, gps was turning on by itself and the reboot/switch off screen kept coming and going, little while later it went into the loop. wouldn't even get to the android screen, i couldn't go into recovery mode either it was so bad. I let it die last night and after seeing this thread i plugged it in, and took out the sim (no memory card). So it seemed to work, though the torch and reboot/switch off screen did show up but nothing like yesterday where it kept interrupting me while i was trying to backup my data. Luckily i do a manual back up regularly.
I changed the "Telephone" permission and it went into the bootloop immediately. It turned on, and i started to backup the last of my data and it went into bootloop again. It's been 10 minutes now.
I noticed it seemed to go into bootloop every time i turned off gps,cell data, or was clearing files from my phone. Honestly i thought i was being hacked. Any suggestions on what I can do?
Srushti97 said:
I did not know this was a thing until last night. I'm on MIUI 11.0.9
My phone restarted out of nowhere and then my flash light came on by itself, gps was turning on by itself and the reboot/switch off screen kept coming and going, little while later it went into the loop. wouldn't even get to the android screen, i couldn't go into recovery mode either it was so bad. I let it die last night and after seeing this thread i plugged it in, and took out the sim (no memory card). So it seemed to work, though the torch and reboot/switch off screen did show up but nothing like yesterday where it kept interrupting me while i was trying to backup my data. Luckily i do a manual back up regularly.
I changed the "Telephone" permission and it went into the bootloop immediately. It turned on, and i started to backup the last of my data and it went into bootloop again. It's been 10 minutes now.
I noticed it seemed to go into bootloop every time i turned off gps,cell data, or was clearing files from my phone. Honestly i thought i was being hacked. Any suggestions on what I can do?
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Try turning off the call logs premission in the contacts app
Srushti97 said:
I did not know this was a thing until last night. I'm on MIUI 11.0.9
My phone restarted out of nowhere and then my flash light came on by itself, gps was turning on by itself and the reboot/switch off screen kept coming and going, little while later it went into the loop. wouldn't even get to the android screen, i couldn't go into recovery mode either it was so bad. I let it die last night and after seeing this thread i plugged it in, and took out the sim (no memory card). So it seemed to work, though the torch and reboot/switch off screen did show up but nothing like yesterday where it kept interrupting me while i was trying to backup my data. Luckily i do a manual back up regularly.
I changed the "Telephone" permission and it went into the bootloop immediately. It turned on, and i started to backup the last of my data and it went into bootloop again. It's been 10 minutes now.
I noticed it seemed to go into bootloop every time i turned off gps,cell data, or was clearing files from my phone. Honestly i thought i was being hacked. Any suggestions on what I can do?
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It looks like a hardware problem, if your phone gets into bootloop even there is no sim card - try to change to the other position for the sim card
same issue
gosh scared the xxxx out of me too! I was uninstalling updates uninstall to my redmi note 7 cause too little space and it went into reboot loop. removed sim and giving permission works. I wonder how to do it if removing sim didn't help me boot! how would j have been able to add back permission. what's worrying was I didn't remove any permissions , I only did uninstall updates to all xiaomi apps
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tiguy99 said:
Saturday night, I plug my 1 week old phone on the charger at 9%. I power off the phone and see the battery charging animation. I turned it back on as usual but this time my phone did something I've never seen before.
It started bootlooping!
I was like what the hell.
It loaded up to the lock screen and then rebooted. This happened over and over again for about an hour.
After googling, I found a thread about a Redni Note 5 pro having the same issue.
The solution was to hold power and Volume down until the phone rebooted to recovery.
After doing that, I was presented with the option to reboot to system, wipe phone (which I definitely didn't want) and connect to My Assistant.
I chose the first option and sure enough....my phone was stuck in a boot loop once again.
This is my first Xiaomi phone. It's not rooted at all and has locked bootloader on the stock 10.3.5 ROM. Fresh out the box...just a few apps, some photos and texts.
I've seen stuff like this before happen with rooted phones but never on a brand new non rooted phone.
Fortunately (and with lots of prayer), I was able to let the phone battery drain out completely since it wouldn't power off.
Sunday morning, I plugged it back on the charger and to my surprise, I saw the battery animation only this time!
After charging fully, I turned it on and saw it bootlooping again. After 5 mins, I decided to remove both my SIM tray with both SIM and micro SD.
THIS time, the phone stopped bootlooping entirely! Again....what the hell was my question .
Normally, my nerves are steel but yesterday, they were more like spaghetti lol
Against my own judgement, I wanted to test if it was my own SIM card causing the issue or if my micro SD card caused the issue.
I placed the SIM try back in with each card 1 by 1 however, the phone immediately started bootlooping on it's own right from system!
I've never seen this before with any other phone or brand I've used in the past.
This activity occurred again and again regardless which card was inserted. With no cards, the phone worked normally.
I decided, you know what, at this point, I'm going to back up my data during and factory reset since now I have access.
Thank God that worked!
After many hours of backing up data, factory resetting my phone and then restoring everything on Mother's Day ( which meant working around free time and planned activities with my Wife), I am happy to say my phone is back working normally with the same SIM card and Micro SD as if nothing happened.
Fluke or not, definitely going to be watching this phone carefully to see if the problem is gone for good.
I will say this, when I first took the phone out the box last week, I turned it on and watched it update to MiUI 10.3.5. Normally I factory reset my phones after updates to be safe but since the phone was still new, I did not factory reset this time. That could be the reason it did this...I'm still not sure.
Sometimes I power my phones off, connect the charger and turn them on. For years I've never had an issue or doing it this way. For a few days I didn't have an issue with my Redmi Note 7 either. After this experience, I will stop doing that entirely.
My question is, have any of you encountered random random boot loops with any of your Xiaomi products? How did it occur and how did you fix it?
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I cannot thank you enough!!
charles2020 said:
gosh scared the xxxx out of me too! I was uninstalling updates uninstall to my redmi note 7 cause too little space and it went into reboot loop. removed sim and giving permission works. I wonder how to do it if removing sim didn't help me boot! how would j have been able to add back permission. what's worrying was I didn't remove any permissions , I only did uninstall updates to all xiaomi apps
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I cannot thank you enough!!
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Anytime!
Glad I can help
tiguy99 said:
That is awesome!
Glad I could help out.
Talk about scary situation....caused by a simple glitch in Miui 10.3.5.
Wonder if the fixed it with the updates...
To scared to update right now since everything has been running smoothly since on my 10.3.5 phone.
Can anyone else share of this problem still occurs on newer versions?
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Seems like this problem exists on MIUI 12.5 too. I haven't tested the fix yet.

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