Fire HD 10 Use SD card for ram, possible? - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there a way to use SD card for ram. I know you can on some other android devices. Also Should I update to 5.1.1 to fix amazon not writing to SD card, It sees it and the files on it, but doesn't allow me to give permission to write to it, but can give permission to write to tablet internal storage. I am currently on 5.0.1 version with ota updates disabled and rooted. I also got google play on there.

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No move app to external sd...?!?!??!

So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
Download gl to SD from play store, you can move any data to external SD, just follow the directions.
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Sadly I dont think rooting can even help... the sd slot just seems like they added it so people would buy the phone atleast thats why I got this in stead of the iphone..
DirectoryBind
SlayaDud said:
So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
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Here's the app that you need. Move any data to external_sd.
DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
EDIT: OOPS!!! DirectoryBind doesn't work on 4.2.2
(I'm still using it on my S2 w/Gingerbread. Waiting on the 32gb or 64gb S4.)
Have to use this instead:
[APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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ripper4209 said:
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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OK, I'm not a full-on geek (e.g. I do not want to root my device), still I'm pretty savvy, but I don't understand what you've said here.
I just updated from a Samsung Stratosphere (Android 2.3.6) to Stratosphere 2 (4.1.2), so I'm now acclimating to JellyBean.
I moved my SD card from the Strat to the Strat 2 and can see in the File Manager the sdcard0 and the exSdCard.
You are saying that in addition to my inserting an actual, physical SD card, there is both internal storage and additional built-in storage (sdcard0)?
Three separate storage areas?
The "main" internal is for the OS?
The built-in SD is for apps?
And my additional external SD is for data (e.g. video, music, etc.?)
I'm confused because, while the phone is still zipping along smoothly, Settings/Storage is telling me that, in 24 hours, I've already gobbled up 4.3 GB of my 8 GB device memory, > 3 GB of this being "miscellaneous" files.
Meanwhile, my application mgr tells me I have used 1.1 GB with 3.7 GB remaining.
Mind you, I am not a heavy app user (e.g. Evernote, my bank's app, NY Times, Dropbox, a few simple games), so what took a 3 GB chomp of my internal memory. For the life of me, I can't remember how I did it, but I did move all "consumer" data (e.g. documents, video, photos, etc.) to be stored on the extSD but, in 24 hours, I don't have that much to store.
Bottom line, are we non-rooters slaves to the internal (SD?) memory for our apps?

unable to move apps to sd card

Well i think my SD Card is acting strangely since i did the new marshmallow update
When i was still running with 5.1.1 Lollipop i was able to move all apps to sd card with no problems at all,
i did a factory reset to get rid of the root and then updated to marshmallow 6.0.1 and at first i could move apps to sd card normally like i used to do with the lollipop and everything was fine until i restarted the phone, when the phone restarted all apps that were on sd card were greyed out with a small sd card icon bellow each one and when i tap on it it says app not probably installed i knew this was a common problem and leaving the phone for a few minutes would restore it but i left my phone unused for 3 hours and apps remained greyed out so i deleted them and redownloaded them again for play store but this time when i tried to move them it would say not enough space on sd card although there is 6 gbs of free space i thought maybe some leftovers from those apps still remained so i formatted my sd card 2 time once with the android and another time from my laptop ...nothing changed still cant move apps to sd card ...and on plus on that when i connect my phone to my laptop it only reads the internal storage it doesnt show the sd card as if it isnt there
any suggestions?? Any help would be appreciated and sorry for my bad English
MbatauVille:
This has been effected by the new security feature on Android 6.0.1 firmware so as not to alter app system files. You should also check your SD file system (format) for compatibility. Also if your are running a custom kernel, Android security patch prohibits non-trusted apps from making changes to to execute as system files outside the inbuilt storage

[Q] Internal / portable SD card issue in Oreo

Hi
OK, so this is my question: I just installed LineageOS 15.0 on my XT1685 . And when I was using the stock ROM (N), I used my SD card to store pictures, videos, etc. After installing O, this option seemed to have disappeared for some reason. First, I couldn't get to choose save location from the stock camera app that came with the Gapps ( https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634797336 ). Then I tried installing Open Camera, but then I got this issue with not being able to write to the SD card (see attachment).
At this point my SD card was formatted as "portable". And I just could NOT get Oreo to understand that I wanted to use it as a default for storing pictures and video. After a while I gave up, and re-formatted as "internal". Which basicly means that now the phone's storage and the external storage are kinda "integrated" in a way.. the SD has become a part of a greater whole..
Which leads me to my actual question...:
Why is it that I could not get it to work as it did on Nougat - as portable, basicly..
And also; how to get around this?
Just to be clear, this is a general Android question (I think), NOT a question specific to the Lineage ROM (which is awesome btw, imo!)
Thanks,
- H
I have AOSP Extend Oreo on my g5+. I put open camera on my phone and was able to store pics on the SD card. However, it stopped working and won't store pics at all. I installed the native moto camera app, but it won't let me store pics to the SD card. I'm hoping someone can provide some assistance.
I am on stock Oreo and I currently use my SD as portable. Formatting the sd as Internal eventually led to 3 different corrupted sd cards after some time, so, if your problem is not software-related, try to stick to formatting the card as portable storage.
I only know a part of the problem, which is happening to me too: a while after restarting the phone, I open my SD card in any file manager (I have Total Commander) and it doesn't show any file but both the file manager and the system shows the Sd card's occupied and free spaces, and I've had to dismount and remount the SD card in order to be able to get to any file or folder of it, but several minutes later the files become impossible to access again.

Quick Question Would a Custom Rom allow me to FULLY utilize the SD cards as internal?

Hi, I'm currently on the Stock Unrooted G5 Plus Android 7.0, the device is only a 16GB but only 10gb usable space.
I have a 64gb SD card mounted, I formatted it as internal and I thought that would allow all the apps that are/get installed to the SD card. but it doesn't work for every app and well I end running out of space.
Would a custom rom fully utilize the SD as internal space?
Not directly... But rooting may allow things like App2SD or Link2SD to work and move apps to the SD card (may require formatting/partitioning of the SD card).
Under developer options there is a setting to ignore the application manifest and allow moving apps to the SD card anyway (Settings > Developer Options > Force allow apps on external). That may allow you to move a few more apps, however system apps will still be stuck on the device's storage. I feel your pain - my G5+ is 16GB too...
I didn't know the G5+ came with 16GB too
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I didn't know the G5+ came with 16GB too
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Same here,
Whn i was born i saw G5 Plus in 4/32gb n bought it..
2/3 gb ram on oreo+ devices doesnt perform as it is meant to.
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The devs hv made our device a "mini oneplus":good::highfive:
Don't make you SD function as internal. The commercial SDs are not meant to function as internal memories, thus get easily corrupted. I myself got 3 cards corrupted after turning them into internal SDs. Just stick to the external formatting option. In any case, the apps would operate more slowly as soon as you install them on the SD, even when formatted as internal.

Option to move data and apps to Micro SD card is greyed out

I purchased a new Fire HD 10, 9th edition, with 32GB of internal storage. I wanted to expand that so I purchased and added a new SanDisk 16GB card. All went according to plan and data and apps moved to the card. But after seeing it quickly filling up I purchased a new 32GB card. I turned off the Fire and removed the 16GB, then popped in the 32GB card. The Fire formatted the new card. It should be an easy process, but for some reason I'm unable to move data and apps to a new micro card. The option to move apps to new card is now greyed out. Also, neither card is now recognizable in any other device. What did I do wrong and how do I correct this? Thank you.
Did you take the card out while the apps you moved to it where still there? Or did you go through the procedure needed to move or delete the apps off before removing the card? There is a way in Settings.
You may have just screwed your tablet. The OS still thinks apps are on the SD card, but they aren't anymore.
You did the very thing most people use as a reason NOT to install apps on the SD card. It's too easy to just take out and mess up the system.
When apps are moved to the card, not everything goes there. Part of every app is still in system memory - it's the part that lets the OS know it's there. Then it looks to the SD to run it when you access it. Now, you've lost that connection as the OS still thinks those app are installed, but can't run anymore.
Wanting to move over apps to the SD card does have legitimate value, especially for devices with limited on-board memory, but one must know the risks, and how to handle it.
Yeah, I shut down the Fire and removed the 16GB card, assuming is was safe to do so since it was off. Then I inserted the 32GB card but it's not working. I'm assuming I'm looking at a factory reset, (not a big deal on a one week new unit), and then installing the SD.
Does the Fire use a unique file system? I ask because neither card is being recognized by my PC when I tried to format them. They are likely hosed?
When formatted as internal storage, the format is specific to Android. It can't be read in a PC. If formatted as portable, or external, it's in the Fat32 format that a PC can read easily. I don't know if the recent gen devices will format to eXFat. I know the 7th and 8th gen tablets don't.
Best use of an SD card is to format as external, keep all apps on internal memory, and store data - such as documents, photos, music, PDFs - all on the SD card. You can also set the tablet to download books, music and other media to the SD card, even while it's set as external.
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Thanks for the insights, Joel. It's safe to assume, then, that the two SD cards in question here are now headed into the trash? I guess I'll factory reset and install a new SD card as external. Worse things have happened.
You can try the bigger card again after the reset. It might then give you the option again on how to format it.
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