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I already got 2 S4 coming, but question is, I keep reading around in different threads that maybe the Note 2 is a better device than the S4, a few people who've already got their S4 are saying that the S4 does not compare to the Note 2, my wife wanted the note 2, and I talked her out of it....man I am in deep shi$ if she gets wind of any of this....and she reads a few areas here in xda...I smell the dog house coming
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I already got 2 S4 coming, but question is, I keep reading around in different threads that maybe the Note 2 is a better device than the S4, a few people who've already got their S4 are saying that the S4 does not compare to the Note 2, my wife wanted the note 2, and I talked her out of it....man I am in deep shi$ if she gets wind of any of this....and she reads a few areas here in xda...I smell the dog house coming
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I have never used a S4 (I do own a Note 2) and based on specs alone the S4 wins (full hd display with almost twice the pixel density and dual quad core processors). Good news is, if your wife really wants a Note 2 you should be able to easily sell your S4, buy a Note 2 and pocket a few hundred bucks.
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I have never used a S4 (I do own a Note 2) and based on specs alone the S4 wins (full hd display with almost twice the pixel density and dual quad core processors). Good news is, if your wife really wants a Note 2 you should be able to easily sell your S4, buy a Note 2 and pocket a few hundred bucks.
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Thank you for that advice, spec wise is what I sold her on, but there a few people out there bashing the S4.
I am going to keep her out of the forums until she gets the S4 in her hand, she has a note 1 now.
My wife has a note 2 and the only thing to be envious about is battery life. After using the s4 for a week or two now, I'm always taken back on the screen quality of the note 2. It's no where near as good as the s4. Same goes for ergonomics, camera and so on. You made the right choice, don't listen to trolls and ask yourself, if the note 2 is so much better, why are their fan base posing in the s4 section?
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My wife has a note 2 and the only thing to be envious about is battery life. After using the s4 for a week or two now, I'm always taken back on the screen quality of the note 2. It's no where near as good as the s4. Same goes for ergonomics, camera and so on. You made the right choice, don't listen to trolls and ask yourself, if the note 2 is so much better, why are their fan base posing in the s4 section?
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Once the S4 gets some stable custom roms out with custom kernels I am sure the S4's battery life issues will be a non factor. I run Jedi Master 13 with Saberkernel 23 on my Note 2 and the speed and battery life of the rom blows the Note 2 stock rom out of the water. You are right, people are just trolling. Based on the S4s specs it is a superior phone.
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Thanks guys, I kinda knew the G4 had better graphics, on the battery side, the Note gets her some serious time. I think I made the right choice, seen a few posts where some of the G4 users are selling them off now. wow. Don't remember, but I think this issue came up when the G3 was released also. man, I can not wait till I have that phone.
thanks, much appreciated!!!!
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Thanks guys, I kinda knew the G4 had better graphics, on the battery side, the Note gets her some serious time. I think I made the right choice, seen a few posts where some of the G4 users are selling them off now. wow. Don't remember, but I think this issue came up when the G3 was released also. man, I can not wait till I have that phone.
thanks, much appreciated!!!!
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Really, only get the Note if you need the s-pen features and plan to actually, you know, take notes on the thing. Otherwise, go for the newest shiny.
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Really, only get the Note if you need the s-pen features and plan to actually, you know, take notes on the thing. Otherwise, go for the newest shiny.
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That's exactly what my wife and I discovered. She came from the LG Lollipop to the Note2, and she was ecstatic about this thing, even though she "hated touchscreen phones" (mostly due to her experiences a long time ago with the Motorola Backflip, and the HTC Pure ... I don't blame her). She loves the Note2 because of the huge screen and low DPI (yet the picture is very clear and sharp at 720p) - excellent for texting and navigating around. She has no problems with a touchscreen now! Oh, and the camera is pretty good on the Note2 as well, with a snappy shutter time and extras like slo-mo video and such.
When she saw my S4, she was actually somewhat jealous! We've been comparing the devices side-by-side for a couple weeks now, and we've determined that the S4 is overall a much better phone. The primary exclusion to this statement is that the Note2 has the S-Pen, which is a really, really nice feature - for those who really use it. She uses it rarely to doodle or take some notes when she doesn't feel like dealing with the onscreen keyboard, so it would not be a huge loss for her if it were gone.
The sacrifice of .5in of diagonal screen space is noticeable by comparison, but the 5" screen the S4 has will still outshine nearly any other smartphone - especially at 1080p.
Lastly, I will comment on the covers. We purchased the official Samsung flip cover for her device, primarily because it was too difficult to find a third-party cheap-knockoff that actually included the NFC antenna. They exist now, but they were hard to come by when we were shopping. At least the S4 doesn't include the NFC antenna as part of the battery cover. >_<
I purchased the S-View cover at the nearest corporate AT&T store (30mi away or so in the next town) because I wanted it on Day-One (I had my phone on Day-Negative-One, and I was eager to buy the silly cover). After shelling out $60, I drove home with the shiny S-View cover, and I once again made my wife jealous. While she'll admit that the S-View window is a tad gimmicky, she both finds it "really cool!" and actually kinda useful for every-day use.
So, just as burhanistan stated: if you have a great need for the awesome S-Pen that the Note2 provides, buy it. Otherwise, the S4 certainly competes to be the best phone ever created to-date (IMHO).
She has been reading this thread at work, the pen she said is a plus, I think I got her leaning toward the G4, you guys are helping a bunch. I like the idea of the earlier reply, sell the G4 if she is not happy, get her the note 2 and save some $$$.
Or just keep it, and pass it on to some devs to help out with the rom progress, that would be my contribution to the cause.
This seriously is helping, cause she is seeing it from other people who have the phone and have been using it already.
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That's exactly what my wife and I discovered. She came from the LG Lollipop to the Note2, and she was ecstatic about this thing, even though she "hated touchscreen phones" (mostly due to her experiences a long time ago with the Motorola Backflip, and the HTC Pure ... I don't blame her). She loves the Note2 because of the huge screen and low DPI (yet the picture is very clear and sharp at 720p) - excellent for texting and navigating around. She has no problems with a touchscreen now! Oh, and the camera is pretty good on the Note2 as well, with a snappy shutter time and extras like slo-mo video and such.
When she saw my S4, she was actually somewhat jealous! We've been comparing the devices side-by-side for a couple weeks now, and we've determined that the S4 is overall a much better phone. The primary exclusion to this statement is that the Note2 has the S-Pen, which is a really, really nice feature - for those who really use it. She uses it rarely to doodle or take some notes when she doesn't feel like dealing with the onscreen keyboard, so it would not be a huge loss for her if it were gone.
The sacrifice of .5in of diagonal screen space is noticeable by comparison, but the 5" screen the S4 has will still outshine nearly any other smartphone - especially at 1080p.
Lastly, I will comment on the covers. We purchased the official Samsung flip cover for her device, primarily because it was too difficult to find a third-party cheap-knockoff that actually included the NFC antenna. They exist now, but they were hard to come by when we were shopping. At least the S4 doesn't include the NFC antenna as part of the battery cover. >_<
I purchased the S-View cover at the nearest corporate AT&T store (30mi away or so in the next town) because I wanted it on Day-One (I had my phone on Day-Negative-One, and I was eager to buy the silly cover). After shelling out $60, I drove home with the shiny S-View cover, and I once again made my wife jealous. While she'll admit that the S-View window is a tad gimmicky, she both finds it "really cool!" and actually kinda useful for every-day use.
So, just as burhanistan stated: if you have a great need for the awesome S-Pen that the Note2 provides, buy it. Otherwise, the S4 certainly competes to be the best phone ever created to-date (IMHO).
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You have a pic or a link to the cover?
I had both but returned my S4 & switched back to my GN2 since I'm changing carriers. At first it was hard to get use to since I was so use to the GN2.
I rarely use the spen but the big screen & not having to charge every night with the GN2 is awesome.
I was getting about 20-22hrs w/ 5-7hrs screen time with my S4.
I do admit being able to use the phone with one hand is cool but typing was a little awkward since I'm so use to typing with 2 hands on my GN2.
Now that I'm back to my GN2, I'm not sure if I want to get the S4 when the 32gb for TMO comes out but knowing my habit of always wanting the latest gadgets, I'll probably do get it. Lol.
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This YouTube video shows it in action, but I think it's French or something (dun car, not English). Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8mQOrk2DBg
Here' my experience with the S-View cover:
If you do not have a password/pattern/number lock on your lock screen (simply set to swipe-to-unlock), just opening the S-View cover will turn on and unlock the device. You open it, and it's ready-to-use immediately.
Closing the lid will lock the device for the most part, and for the next 10 seconds or so, it will show the time and notification icons (and battery/signal/etc) through the little window. After 10 seconds, the device shuts off. You can power it back on like this with the power button, but it doesn't unlock it until you open it again.
The window itself appears to be made of glass. It's fairly nice - I was half expecting it to be crappy plastic. If it's not glass, it's really nice plastic.
You can answer or decline incoming calls through the glass when it rings with a swipe of a little round icon one way or the other. Pretty neat, but if you have the touch sensitivity all the way down, you might have a slight trouble using this feature. I haven't tried it since the OTA update, so they may have improved that!
You can hang up an existing call in a similar fashion.
The flip cover itself needs some time to "break in". When you first put it on, it will not lay flat onto the glass of your phone without some convincing, or being held in place by your pocket. After enough use, or a day or two, it gets much better. Don't think the cover is defective from this, it's just too tight in the "hinge" at first, but will loosen up with use.
Occasionally, if I have the cover flipped backwards for long periods, it somewhat emulates the same effect as the above point. It will shy away from the screen for a brief while, and then return to normal. I suspect after several more weeks, this will go away entirely at this rate.
One thing that I really do like about this cover: Because it replaces the battery cover of your phone, it adds virtually no bulk to the phone. It is very slightly thicker, and I can tell you that I appreciate it for one reason: The normal battery cover is inset, such that the camera lens sticks out the furthest, and when placing the device on a flat surface, it rests on the edge of the camera lens. On the S-View flip cover, the new back sticks out just a hair past the camera lens, so it no longer rests on the camera anymore. I take a lot of pictures, so I like to keep my camera lens immaculate.
The glass window will get rather dirty, especially if you shove the phone against a greasy head. Not a big deal, just use a microfiber cloth once in a while and some screen cleaner to get it shiny again.
The normal covers have no window, and so when you open it all the way (flipped around backwards), you can't use the rear-facing camera! With the S-View cover, it lines up such that you can use the camera straight through the glass on the cover. A nice touch, really. Because I take a lot of close-up shots and other detailed pictures, I choose not to flip the cover all the way around, because sometimes the window is dirty. So I just flip it downwards or whatnot.
The flip cover, even when purchased through AT&T, does not have AT&T's logo on the back, like the normal battery cover. I like it that way better. Even better: the front shows "Galaxy S4" near the bottom, and makes it a lot easier to show that you have a really, really cool phone.
I hope this all helps if debating whether to drop $60 on the S-View cover or not. Generics are starting to become available, but I don't know anything about the quality, etc.
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RMXO said:
I had both but returned my S4 & switched back to my GN2 since I'm changing carriers. At first it was hard to get use to since I was so use to the GN2.
I rarely use the spen but the big screen & not having to charge every night with the GN2 is awesome.
I was getting about 20-22hrs w/ 5-7hrs screen time with my S4.
I do admit being able to use the phone with one hand is cool but typing was a little awkward since I'm so use to typing with 2 hands on my GN2.
Now that I'm back to my GN2, I'm not sure if I want to get the S4 when the 32gb for TMO comes out but knowing my habit of always wanting the latest gadgets, I'll probably do get it. Lol.
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I didn't mention battery at all, but you bring up a point. The Note2 has excellent battery life, there's no doubt about that. The S4 has "good" battery life in my experience, especially coming from the S2. People are saying that battery life has improved with the OTA update recently, but I haven't had a good chance to test that out. Freezing bloatware has really been a big help to increasing the battery life, regardless.
My S4 easily lasts the day, and can last two days with moderate/intermittent usage. I think the OTA update may have improved the battery life significantly, but I will have to test this out over the next couple days. Also, keeping it on Wi-Fi where available seems to be the best way to conserve battery life in my area.
Went from the note 2 to s4 pre update, ui fluidity was the only issue. I addressed it with nova launcher and the options in the developers setting, which made the ui very fast. Update addresses that issue and everything else on the s4 is better and my battery life is very comparable. I get 20+ hours with 4+ hours of screen time easily and I'm sure it will increase with roms and kernels.
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Went from the note 2 to s4 pre update, ui fluidity was the only issue. I addressed it with nova launcher and the options in the developers setting, which made the ui very fast. Update addresses that issue and everything else on the s4 is better and my battery life is very comparable. I get 20+ hours with 4+ hours of screen time easily and I'm sure it will increase with roms and kernels.
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Thanks, I needed this one....
I had the Note 2 for a week before I traded it for the S4. They are both awesome devices, but imo the S4 was the right choice for me. Much easier to carry it in your pocket. Battery life not as good, but that was expected. Cant go wrong either way. Go to the store and play with them both.
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I had the Note 2 for a week before I traded it for the S4. They are both awesome devices, but imo the S4 was the right choice for me. Much easier to carry it in your pocket. Battery life not as good, but that was expected. Cant go wrong either way. Go to the store and play with them both.
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funny you said that.. we just got back from the mall...saw them both....the wife agreed on the S4...so I am safe..for now....she will be ok when it arrives Monday. thanks...I showed her a few of the posts here...thanks to you all....very good imput.
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funny you said that.. we just got back from the mall...saw them both....the wife agreed on the S4...so I am safe..for now....she will be ok when it arrives Monday. thanks...I showed her a few of the posts here...thanks to you all....very good imput.
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She made a wise choice, I have a Note 2 and would gladly trade it for a S4. I don't even use my Spen, I got it last September because it had the best guts and it's a Samsung. Never buy a HTC. PITA software and very unforgiving. Buy Sammy, Odin is your friend. Enjoy your S4's!
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She made a wise choice, I have a Note 2 and would gladly trade it for a S4. I don't even use my Spen, I got it last September because it had the best guts and it's a Samsung. Never buy a HTC. PITA software and very unforgiving. Buy Sammy, Odin is your friend. Enjoy your S4's!
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I had a htc hd2...it was a nightmare..to flash roms...a win phone..dual boot crap..rock solid...hard to deal with...hehe i ask her..how much are you really use that pen..also the res on the s4 was SWEET...they had the perfect wallpaper on that demo...i showed her she said ok. so when she gets that new rom on it...she won't even mention the note. its on now.
as far as the G3...i love the damn thing..my son is keeping his...so i will be hanging around here for awhile still...sold 2 keeping 1...
Just dropped by the Galaxy Experience Store on Prince street in New York City. All the assistants were toting GS6 or GS6 Edges. Got to look at them both, and LOVED them. The Edge by far had the edge (clears throat) - felt absolutely tiny in hand compared to my Note Edge, and looked drop-dead. If you're in town, I'd definitely recommend dropping by. They even hinted the Sprint edition was already in stock with them ?? AT&T hopefully by launch date of 11 April. Counting down the days...
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Just dropped by the Galaxy Experience Store on Prince street in New York City. All the assistants were toting GS6 or GS6 Edges. Got to look at them both, and LOVED them. The Edge by far had the edge (clears throat) - felt absolutely tiny in hand compared to my Note Edge, and looked drop-dead. If you're in town, I'd definitely recommend dropping by. They even hinted the Sprint edition was already in stock with them ?? AT&T hopefully by launch date of 11 April. Counting down the days...
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How were the colors in person? Which did you like now that you've seen it live?
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How were the colors in person? Which did you like now that you've seen it live?
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Awesome question - i really liked the blue shimmer on the black one, the green emerald I think might have to get my vote though. I'd also say the S6 Edge felt significantly smaller/better in-hand than the regular S6....
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Just dropped by the Galaxy Experience Store on Prince street in New York City. All the assistants were toting GS6 or GS6 Edges. Got to look at them both, and LOVED them. The Edge by far had the edge (clears throat) - felt absolutely tiny in hand compared to my Note Edge, and looked drop-dead. If you're in town, I'd definitely recommend dropping by. They even hinted the Sprint edition was already in stock with them ?? AT&T hopefully by launch date of 11 April. Counting down the days...
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I this a standalone store or in a Best Buy?
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I this a standalone store or in a Best Buy?
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Standalone store on Prince Street!
Can you phrase verify the extinction of the recent apps lag?
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Can you phrase verify the extinction of the recent apps lag?
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I did try that, didn't see any lag. In fact, didn't get any lag whatsoever in my brief time with it. Silky smooth. Of course, my Note Edge started silky smooth and then went downhill a bit, so that could just be the newness of the unit!
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I did try that, didn't see any lag. In fact, didn't get any lag whatsoever in my brief time with it. Silky smooth. Of course, my Note Edge started silky smooth and then went downhill a bit, so that could just be the newness of the unit!
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Thanks! It's so frustrating looking for a new phone. Had a note 4 that i sold after several months of use out of frustration. Recent apps lag, animation stutters, etc. Have a z3 now which is so darn smooth, but camera is mediocre. Hoping S6 can get best of both worlds
I had the chance to hold the new s6 in my hands a couple of days ago at a store in my country and I have to say it really is an amazingly good looking phone from all aspects. No lag or stutter. Premium quality materials. In white it is not a fingerprint magnet at all. I think I'm in love. I really like my note 4 but the s6 is in a different level. The only thing that is holding me back from getting one is that I need to see some proper battery tests with a finalized firmware. Cheers.
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Awesome question - i really liked the blue shimmer on the black one, the green emerald I think might have to get my vote though. I'd also say the S6 Edge felt significantly smaller/better in-hand than the regular S6....
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Still wanting black one!
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I had the chance to hold the new s6 in my hands a couple of days ago at a store in my country and I have to say it really is an amazingly good looking phone from all aspects. No lag or stutter. Premium quality materials. In white it is not a fingerprint magnet at all. I think I'm in love. I really like my note 4 but the s6 is in a different level. The only thing that is holding me back from getting one is that I need to see some proper battery tests with a finalized firmware. Cheers.
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Did the smaller screen size compared to the note 4 bother you at all?
To be honest, just a bit. But I am willing to downgrade on the screen size. Moreover, having instant access to accessories like waterproof case and battery case is a big deal for me. With note it is almost impossible to have that.
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Did the smaller screen size compared to the note 4 bother you at all?
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To be honest, just a bit. But I am willing to downgrade on the screen size. Moreover, having instant access to accessories like waterproof case and battery case is a big deal for me. With note it is almost impossible to have that.
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To be honest, just a bit. But I am willing to downgrade on the screen size. Moreover, having instant access to accessories like waterproof case and battery case is a big deal for me. With note it is almost impossible to have that.
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To be honest, just a bit. But I am willing to downgrade on the screen size. Moreover, having instant access to accessories like waterproof case and battery case is a big deal for me. With note it is almost impossible to have that.
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I see. It's a bit of a concern as I'll be coming from a 5.5" screen and the 4.96" minus on-screen buttons Nexus 5 display seems a bit tiny now.
Please make the wait go away.
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I see. It's a bit of a concern as I'll be coming from a 5.5" screen and the 4.96" minus on-screen buttons Nexus 5 display seems a bit tiny now.
Please make the wait go away.
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Totally agree on the comments, I'm sort of over the large Note screen size now
, and don't use the pen as much as I thought I would... Kinda looking
Forward to a smaller, hand sized screen
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Totally agree on the comments, I'm sort of over the large Note screen size now
, and don't use the pen as much as I thought I would... Kinda looking
Forward to a smaller, hand sized screen
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Totally agree on that. That is why I want to go for the s6.
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Thinking about taking a train to NYC on Monday Evening to check the edge out. I live just a trip ride away so it's not an issue. My only gripe is that I only have 850 budget.. I want the 64GB edge...
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Thinking about taking a train to NYC on Monday Evening to check the edge out. I live just a trip ride away so it's not an issue. My only gripe is that I only have 850 budget.. I want the 64GB edge...
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I was basically all set on the Edge until I went to see the S6 in store. I have esentially completely changed my mind and am going for the regular S6 now. Don't get me wrong, the edge is cool and the engineering behind it is phenomenal but I found issues with the ergonomics and that combined with the additional cost makes the regular S6 feel like the better buy to me.
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I was basically all set on the Edge until I went to see the S6 in store. I have esentially completely changed my mind and am going for the regular S6 now. Don't get me wrong, the edge is cool and the engineering behind it is phenomenal but I found issues with the ergonomics and that combined with the additional cost makes the regular S6 feel like the better buy to me.
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Thanks for that, my one biggest concern about the Edge. I can make a trip to NYC by train or bus in about 1 hour but Best Buy will have them the end of next week. What am I going to do anyways since they will not be released till the 10th so I probably will not go into the city. It will make the wait even more excruciating to get my hands on the one I end up wanting to own and I really will have enough time to decide when Best Buy gets them.
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I was basically all set on the Edge until I went to see the S6 in store. I have esentially completely changed my mind and am going for the regular S6 now. Don't get me wrong, the edge is cool and the engineering behind it is phenomenal but I found issues with the ergonomics and that combined with the additional cost makes the regular S6 feel like the better buy to me.
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Have you been living under a rock?
To hell with functionality. It's all about design. Keep up with the times, bro.
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I had the chance to hold the new s6 in my hands a couple of days ago at a store in my country and I have to say it really is an amazingly good looking phone from all aspects. No lag or stutter. Premium quality materials. In white it is not a fingerprint magnet at all. I think I'm in love. I really like my note 4 but the s6 is in a different level. The only thing that is holding me back from getting one is that I need to see some proper battery tests with a finalized firmware. Cheers.
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Aha...see, precisely why I went for the white version...fingerprint smudges are much less visible than on the other versions. Coming from a Note 4 (black) as well. I'm very sure I will adapt in no time to the smaller screen. Counting the days until April 10th!
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Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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SD card and a removable battery. After the Note 7, I don't want a phone that I can't take the battery out.
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Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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For me is better in the following ways:
Second screen, removable battery, looks better, sdcard, the camera specs look better to me, better audio, full AT&T support (AT&T tends to not fully support features like VoLTE on non branded devices).
Downside: probably locked bootloader, potentially limited development support, and each version has a subset of all the possible LTE bands.
Almost 300 Dollars cheaper if you trade in your old 4G phone. Has some unique hardware features that the pixel doesn't have (2nd screen, dual camera, replaceable battery). Potential downside of V20: Slow with software updates and battery life. I decided today to cancel my Pixel XL order. To spent 1000 bucks for a phone that has no hardware wow factor didn't sit well with me. The Google software gimmicks on the pixel like assistant don't interest me and they are anyway 1st gen.Pixel owners are beta testers. Maybe next years Pixel 2nd gen will be nice.
The Silver phone is Silver on both sides, not Silver on the back and Girly White on the front.
I was debating between the two. My biggest gripe on the v20 is the screen. Not a bad screen, but LG calibration is usually bad and way too cold. Also no VR on the lg.
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The Silver phone is Silver on both sides, not Silver on the back and Girly White on the front.
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The worst is the blue pixel. Looks good from the back and then you turn it around and it is white. UGLY!
I hate the button placement on the Pixel. Similar to the one on the 6P. While holding the phone I constantly press the volume button. In a car holder the phone cannot be positioned in the middle because the holder presses than either the on/off button or the volume button down.
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I hate the button placement on the Pixel. Similar to the one on the 6P. While holding the phone I constantly press the volume button. In a car holder the phone cannot be positioned in the middle because the holder presses than either the on/off button or the volume button down.
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Very true, I'm hitting my 6p a lot! But otherwise the Nexus6p is awesome!
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Besides the price and the screen size, how is the V20 better?
Thank you for the help. I am trying to figure out what to replace my note 7 with.
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Removable battery, quad Dac, 64gb internal memory standard, expandable storage, and ir blaster
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For every cons you find on the LG V20, you get 2 or more pros. By the way. Someone already unlocked the bootloader for the Tmobile model! (I GOT TO LOVE TMOBILE LOL! IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO NICE). Smells like some rooting is about to be cooked up!... anyway, lets keep up with the listing, LG V20 is : Better looking, high quality built, shockproof, removable battery, Expandable SD CArd up to 2000TBS!, more megapixels in the rear camera, INFRAREEEED (an odd yet very effective feature to find in a phone nowadays), and the uniform color. and several other great features that you wouldnt find on google pixel /xl
^^what they said! and has wide angle camera feature! and already has a lot of activity on XDA! Cool
galaxys said:
^^what they said! and has wide angle camera feature! and already has a lot of activity on XDA! Cool
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YESSS you said it!
My main consideration in going with the v20 over the pixel was this is google's first phone. I think that alone increases the chances for problems. Plus, where I'm at, there's no actual physicall store selling the pixel. I'm more comfortable being able to go to a store and talk to someone if I have a problem and need replacement.
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My main consideration in going with the v20 over the pixel was this is google's first phone. I think that alone increases the chances for problems. Plus, where I'm at, there's no actual physicall store selling the pixel. I'm more comfortable being able to go to a store and talk to someone if I have a problem and need replacement.
Facts which can be chosen based upon preference.
I preordered the V20 based on these items below.
- Availability, the XL is out of stock for how long no one knows.
- MicroSD support
- Removable battery (Not a must for me)
- Audio experience.
- Camera has a lot of features, but quality could be a 50/50?
Thats basically it. Everything else would be preference honestly.
The PIXEL XL is just a bad ass phone.
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For every cons you find on the LG V20, you get 2 or more pros. By the way. Someone already unlocked the bootloader for the Tmobile model! (I GOT TO LOVE TMOBILE LOL! IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO NICE). Smells like some rooting is about to be cooked up!... anyway, lets keep up with the listing, LG V20 is : Better looking, high quality built, shockproof, removable battery, Expandable SD CArd up to 2000TBS!, more megapixels in the rear camera, INFRAREEEED (an odd yet very effective feature to find in a phone nowadays), and the uniform color. and several other great features that you wouldnt find on google pixel /xl
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What is current and previous phones?
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What is current and previous phones?
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What do you mean? do you mean which devices have i owned in the past and the one i own now?
if that is what you meant then... I have owned Galaxy S1/2/3/4/5/6; Samsung galaxy note 1/2/3 Samsung Galaxy Exhibit, LG Leon, Alcatel One touch fierce 1/2 LG G2/G3/G4/G5.
The red Ones are the ones i dont own anymore LOL. The V20 is on its way, supposedly arriving between 24th and 28th.
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What do you mean? do you mean which devices have i owned in the past and the one i own now?
if that is what you meant then... I have owned Galaxy S1/2/3/4/5/6; Samsung galaxy note 1/2/3 Samsung Galaxy Exhibit, LG Leon, Alcatel One touch fierce 1/2 LG G2/G3/G4/G5.
The red Ones are the ones i dont own anymore LOL. The V20 is on its way, supposedly arriving between 24th and 28th.
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just wanted to know how you formed ideas.
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just wanted to know how you formed ideas.
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wait. did i answered your question right?
i just don't the looks of the pixel. the design looks like every other generic phone that has come out over the last few years. i got the v20 for all the same reason others have already mentioned. i love the phone so far. even way better than my recalled note 7 which i hated so much. glad they got recalled.
I currently have an S7 Edge I got when I had to return my Note 7. Is it worth the money to switch to the V20 unlocked version that BH sells even though it doesn't offer Wifi Calling? Also I hear about the camera glass breaking on it as well easily.
Finally, would the iPhone 7 Plus be a better alternative to the V20?
Is there any particular reason why you want to switch? From reviews I've been seeing from actual users, the V20 can't match the Edge.
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Is there any particular reason why you want to switch? From reviews I've been seeing from actual users, the V20 can't match the Edge.
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I get bored with phones lol. I had the s7 edge back in march, then bought the Note 7 then had to return that and got the Edge. Nearly got the iphone plus instead of the Edge but it was out of stock. Now i see the v20 with a larger screen and more features.
Also better cases for teh v20 that are more protective because it has a flat screen. Im using a Defender for the Edge which this screen protector actually fits tight to the screen but you have to tap hard because it's a thicker kind of plastic. Im thinking about getting Speck candygrip shell for it and sticking with the edge maybe.
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I get bored with phones lol. I had the s7 edge back in march, then bought the Note 7 then had to return that and got the Edge. Nearly got the iphone plus instead of the Edge but it was out of stock. Now i see the v20 with a larger screen and more features.
Also better cases for teh v20 that are more protective because it has a flat screen. Im using a Defender for the Edge which this screen protector actually fits tight to the screen but you have to tap hard because it's a thicker kind of plastic. Im thinking about getting Speck candygrip shell for it and sticking with the edge maybe.
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we are not the worm in your stomach, why would we know what you want to do? ask yourself that then decide for yourself.
I switch to Iphone 7 for a month, couldnt live without root and xposed then came back to S7 edge.
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I currently have an S7 Edge I got when I had to return my Note 7. Is it worth the money to switch to the V20 unlocked version that BH sells even though it doesn't offer Wifi Calling? Also I hear about the camera glass breaking on it as well easily.
Finally, would the iPhone 7 Plus be a better alternative to the V20?
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When I returned my note 7, I tried both and had to return both. The problem you are going to have is the screen quality. Samsung makes the best screens on a smartphone. To me the LG v20 and iPhone was terrible compared to the s7 edge. That is the main reason why I bought the s7e, the screen is amazing. (also camera and battery life was good too.)
iPhone 7 plus
I also wanted to buy iPhone 7 plus but it was out of stock, instead I bought S7 edge. In my opinion, I see LGv20 as a downgrade from s7 edge. There's no doubt that iPhone 7 plus is the fastest phone you can buy. I really miss iMessage, FaceTime, great stand by time, way better app performance and excellent Siri features. However, the only thing you will be missing on an iPhone is Fast charging. That's the only reason I am staying with s7 edge and I hope that Apple releases the next iPhone with fast charging feature.
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I also wanted to buy iPhone 7 plus but it was out of stock, instead I bought S7 edge. In my opinion, I see LGv20 as a downgrade from s7 edge. There's no doubt that iPhone 7 plus is the fastest phone you can buy. I really miss iMessage, FaceTime, great stand by time, way better app performance and excellent Siri features. However, the only thing you will be missing on an iPhone is Fast charging. That's the only reason I am staying with s7 edge and I hope that Apple releases the next iPhone with fast charging feature.
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You won't get wireless charging too.
Windows XP would also run as the fastest OS on PC if you can manage to install it on modern PCs. That's why iOS is so blazing fast. If you're a casual user, iOS may be an option. But for some of us, we feel too limited by it. I can't even set it ti automatically change brightness and screen on time based on what app is in the foreground, at least maybe without having to jailbreak. On Android that's just a couple of minutes to set up.
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You won't enjoy your phone much with iphones because of short battery life.
I get bored quickly also I've had my s7e since release, I tried switching to iphone7 plus had for two days couldn't stand it sold it, then I bought a pixel xl which I did like a lot but the camera wasn't as good as s7e, which my wife still had an s7e so I was constantly comparing pics side by side but ultimately I returned the pixel also because I couldn't live with 32gb phone. So now I'm back to my awesome s7e, amazing it still reigns supreme after releasing so long ago. As for the v20, not impressed enough to even want to try it, why aren't you considering pixel xl? I think s7e and pixel xl are androids of the year
If you're bored with a top of the line Android, root it an slap a custom ROM on it.
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Only other phone i would consideris the iphone 7 plus if i was wanting to switch. Imessage, facetime and siri all suck! Better app performance is subjective. Been with apple before and hate being limited to do stuff. Battery life is superb with iphones granted that is the only thing i miss. Multitasking is much better on this s7 edge than previous iphones. Havent tried the 7 though but highly doubt much has changed. The s7 edge is the closest thing to the note 7 which i love. Why would u consider a total different ui is beyond me. To each their own but i for one wont be tied by the sack by apple.
There is no auto brightness in ios??? Wtf? Really?
And for you op, you change a lot of phones. Do the mother nature a favor and stick with your s7e. ?
I'm getting bored with my S7 edge, but I would never change to an iPhone because iOS is way to closed. The only way to open it is by jailbreaking it, but Apple is hunting the jailbreak and it's getting harder and harder to jb...
I'll buy a One+ 3T soon, then a One 4 or maybe Pixel 2 depending on the design
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There is no auto brightness in ios??? Wtf? Really?
And for you op, you change a lot of phones. Do the mother nature a favor and stick with your s7e. ?
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Not autobrightness. That's different from what I'm talking about. For example you open a game, you want autobrightness to turn off automatically, then turn on back when you exit a game. Or when going into Chrome, you want screen on time to automatically change from 1min to 10 minutes. That can be done on Android via stuff like Tasker.
But I've never seen any of my friends on iOS have autobrightness. It's always real dark or blinding bright.
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You won't enjoy your phone much with iphones because of short battery life.
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It's good enough for enjoying the phone I think
Blues fan said:
I get bored with phones lol. I had the s7 edge back in march, then bought the Note 7 then had to return that and got the Edge. Nearly got the iphone plus instead of the Edge but it was out of stock. Now i see the v20 with a larger screen and more features.
Also better cases for teh v20 that are more protective because it has a flat screen. Im using a Defender for the Edge which this screen protector actually fits tight to the screen but you have to tap hard because it's a thicker kind of plastic. Im thinking about getting Speck candygrip shell for it and sticking with the edge maybe.
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s7 edge a better phone end of
I had the note 2,3,5 but eventually switched to nexus 6 and 6p and have loved it, although disappointed with no OIS and the battery issues, my 4th RMA to be delivered today.
I personally am torn by the note 8 and pixel 2, once it's not so hideous, has less bezel. But the reasonable price on v20 and g6 seemed enticing for a second as does the screen on the s8.
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I had the note 2,3,5 but eventually switched to nexus 6 and 6p and have loved it, although disappointed with no OIS and the battery issues, my 4th RMA to be delivered today.
I personally am torn by the note 8 and pixel 2, once it's not so hideous, has less bezel. But the reasonable price on v20 and g6 seemed enticing for a second as does the screen on the s8.
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Noting looks interesting for me right now.
I'm waiting for new devices this fall.
If it doesn't have a Snapdragon 835 or better, I'm not interested.
Maybe a Pixel 2. Nothing with a curved screen. I hate them.
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Noting looks interesting for me right now.
I'm waiting for new devices this fall.
If it doesn't have a Snapdragon 835 or better, I'm not interested.
Maybe a Pixel 2. Nothing with a curved screen. I hate them.
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/10/google-might-bring-curved-screens-to-its-next-pixel-phone/
tech_head said:
Noting looks interesting for me right now.
I'm waiting for new devices this fall.
If it doesn't have a Snapdragon 835 or better, I'm not interested.
Maybe a Pixel 2. Nothing with a curved screen. I hate them.
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what's so annoying with curved screens ?
OnePlus 5.
S8+
neeko92 said:
what's so annoying with curved screens ?
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Personal preference.
1. They look plain silly to me.
2. Distortion in the curved part of the screen.
3. Finger falls of on the curved portion, so it becomes an unusable area.
4. Cases now look strange.
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I prefer a perfectly flat screen with minimal bezels.
I'll be hanging on to my Nexus 6P for a while if the Pixel2 has a curved screen.
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I had the note 2,3,5 but eventually switched to nexus 6 and 6p and have loved it, although disappointed with no OIS and the battery issues, my 4th RMA to be delivered today.
I personally am torn by the note 8 and pixel 2, once it's not so hideous, has less bezel. But the reasonable price on v20 and g6 seemed enticing for a second as does the screen on the s8.
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4th RMA? Aren't you entitled to a new device or a refund at that point??? I would've raised hell after the 3rd.
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Since i'm on google fi, i have the nexus 6p at the moment. I'll pass on the Pixel line and wait another year to see what google will come out with
I've switched to the S8. I looked at the plus but it's actually a large phone and the s8 has the same size screen as the 6P, but not as wide. Really, it's been a good phone. The bluetooth/wifi isn't as strong as the 6P, but I like that it's water resistant and easier to handle. Also, the always on screen is great, battery life has been better than the 6P and yeah. It's been a good device for the 4 days I've had it lol. now to sell my 6p on swappa
Ordered the Galaxy S8 Plus International G955F Exynos model which has unlockable Bootloader!
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4th RMA? Aren't you entitled to a new device or a refund at that point??? I would've raised hell after the 3rd.
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The first one was because of the massive battery drain but it came slightly after my manufacturer warranty and they took care of me. After a few weeks I finally had somebody who let me know they couldn't really hear me very well, so I turn my speaker phone on and realized it was something in my microphone or whatever. So I had that replaced and the one they sent me after that had the same battery drain immediately, so now I'm on my fourth total, I've been on it for about 12 hours and I just hit 13% and it has not shut down so it looks like I might be okay for a while. I agree they need to do something. I'm not sure what's going to happen with this whole class action lawsuit situation but Google has taken care of me. No complaints. Definitely consider the pixel 2 if it has thin bezels and larger screen
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I've switched to the S8. I looked at the plus but it's actually a large phone and the s8 has the same size screen as the 6P, but not as wide. Really, it's been a good phone. The bluetooth/wifi isn't as strong as the 6P, but I like that it's water resistant and easier to handle. Also, the always on screen is great, battery life has been better than the 6P and yeah. It's been a good device for the 4 days I've had it lol. now to sell my 6p on swappa
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Have considered the same but if I'm going Sammy, I'm going back to the note line. I LOVE this phone and the shamu though. I'd still be on it if the camera was better.
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Ordered the Galaxy S8 Plus International G955F Exynos model which has unlockable Bootloader!
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Sammy == KNOX.
KNOX == JUNK
SAMMY == JUNK.
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Sammy == KNOX.
KNOX == JUNK
SAMMY == JUNK.
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I wouldn't exactly call it junk. Knox is actually very good if you value security. It definitely increases the security of the phones.
It may hurt modding a phone but security should be every OEM's main focus, especially when their devices contain all your private information.
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I wouldn't exactly call it junk. Knox is actually very good if you value security. It definitely increases the security of the phones.
It may hurt modding a phone but security should be every OEM's main focus, especially when their devices contain all your private information.
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Should be an option and it should not brick the phone.
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Should be an option and it should not brick the phone.
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Perhaps if there's a way to hack the phone, then it is fully possible to install spyware, loggers, etc on the stock software, then sell it to someone and just steal everything. I do recall a ROM that actually did that and was instantly removed from the forums.
I mean it's nice to install custom ROMs on a phone, but you would really have to look at the whole picture and not from just what we want.
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Note 8 or 2017 nexus for me. Haven't had a note device in 4 years (tablet). But I'm not particularly thrilled with a touchwiz device or non nexus because of the lag, the inevitable lag. I got a g4 2 yrs ago and got bored with no real ROMs or low ability to mod it
Basically, any new phone with dual front facing speakers I will probably buy. I would like to have a newer processor though for connectivity reasons.
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Note 8 or 2017 nexus for me. Haven't had a note device in 4 years (tablet). But I'm not particularly thrilled with a touchwiz device or non nexus because of the lag, the inevitable lag. I got a g4 2 yrs ago and got bored with no real ROMs or low ability to mod it
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I'm really curious what the note 8 will bring to the table, I had the note 1 (laggy mess but original concept), note 2 and note 3. The 2 and 3 were some of the best phones I've had tbh.