What exactly is causing lack of development? - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

Hey everyone,
I'm actually genuinely curious about this, I'm looking to potentially start developing for this phone but in order to do this I need to know the state of affairs and what exactly we have at the moment and don't. I see we can unlock bootloader and root....but the techniques used to do so seem very......primitive.... to say the least, and quite compressed for a newbie.
What exactly is the issue for lack of ROM development, what are we missing? Is it possible to make a tool to help with bootloader unlock and root, and if it is why hasn't it happened yet? I see we have TWRP but what else do we need?
Like I said I'm genuinely curious and not trying to start a flame war, this is for productive conversation and discussion. I come from a Nexus 6 so the lack of development is something I'm aware of before I bought this phone, but I would really like it to thrive as it's a great phone. As a disclaimer I haven't rooted or unlocked my phone yet, I just got it, and as much as I am very experienced in this field, I'm not yet ready to go through the process if it's not worth it.
Thank you.

A full image from ZTE is what we are waiting on (last I heard)

tele_jas said:
A full image from ZTE is what we are waiting on (last I heard)
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The full image is not a problem. All binary files can be extracted from partition backups.
If you check https://github.com/hax-on you will see progress. As an developer you will especially see what's missing. The main issue is audio vendor blobs getting to work without help of ZTE devs.
It requires reverse engineering. (IDA Pro, radar2).
Not everyone knows how to RE. That is why the community is pushing ZTE for help or release the sources for the required blobs.

Additionally, I am running into a back order issue so maybe more development will occur when next batch hits the shelves in a few weeks? But op brings up a good question.
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canezila said:
Additionally, I am running into a back order issue so maybe more development will occur when next batch hits the shelves in a few weeks? But op brings up a good question.
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Jet.com has it shipping Monday with 30$ off, free shipping, and no tax

Have faith - once they get CM13 going the flood gates will open.

Anything that can be done by us that don't have the experience but want to contribute?

S8ntsHaz3 said:
Anything that can be done by us that don't have the experience but want to contribute?
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For now only patients. And once CM becomes available testing and reporting bugs using logs and pastebin.

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Simple Un-Root!

Un-root And update download the file from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975888 and apply. This will give you stock and S-on.
That simple!
Thanks for the info, but the fun is just beginning. This is always good to have just in case you have to return it.
You should be able to load any stock RUU. As long as the hboot and the recovery exist in the RUU, it should return you to a stock condition.
Jaywan, how about a simple root and s-off?
It's simple to make a app run the commands needed to make a one click rooter. And easier to edit a already working rooter to work for this phone. Idk why he don't want the one click released. Took me 30 minutes to root.. maybe he only want people to root using his method. I not gonna step on his toes by posting one tho...
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ok ok, I hear yah. I will just bite the bullet and type in all 90 of the commands tomorrow when I get off work.
BTW, I left the MT4G and came over to verizon also. I went to the SGS4G before I left tmobile. Lack of dev support for that phone made me give it up. Thanks for coming over to the Thunderbolt.
also, take a look at this thread I started. Somethings up with this one click unroot deal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004567
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It's simple to make a app run the commands needed to make a one click rooter. And easier to edit a already working rooter to work for this phone. Idk why he don't want the one click released. Took me 30 minutes to root.. maybe he only want people to root using his method. I not gonna step on his toes by posting one tho...
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I heard him meantion he wants people to learn adb so if something happens further down the line they can use it
Seriously I'm with him, the hardest part about adb for me was getting it installed. The root was easy and took 30 min
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For what its worth, he said feel free to post the one clicks, just give credit. I dont honestly care however, copy, paste, seemed simple enough. Was no where near as hard as the original root method for the DInc.
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The only legitimate reason I could buy about not wanting a one click released, is if SOMEHOW it would make our phones vulnerable to some sort if attack.
As background, I've ben using custom roms since my old g1 was new and JesusFreke was just getting started and I dont ever recall ANY dev with holding something that would make the users lives easier. In recent history I've done a ton of flashing roms with both mine and my wifes old vibrants and the only time I used adb was if I wanted to push a file to the phone without mounting it on my computer.
PERSONALLY, this whole mess sounds of ego and elitism. I am incredibly greatful to the devs who have paved the way, but fearful of what they are trying to do. No one should have the right to prevent another from releasing something, it's in gross violation of the gpl. If a dev wants to code something under a different license, fine. However it needs to be clearly annotated as such, and devoid of any gpl work itself. In other words, it basically can't contain anything related to android unless it was developed 100% blind through an emulator.
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Can't step on my toes, I got stealtoe boots...
I want a chance to review any one clicks before release. I REALLY want new users to understand what they are doing BEFORE they try one clicking.
I want proper md5sum verifications, I want proper warnings, etc.
I already stopped the release (until fixed) of one 1click root that would of been REALLY bad for the community and anyone using it.
Ppl need to stop blaming me for this crud.
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The only legitimate reason I could buy about not wanting a one click released, is if SOMEHOW it would make our phones vulnerable to some sort if attack.
As background, I've ben using custom roms since my old g1 was new and JesusFreke was just getting started and I dont ever recall ANY dev with holding something that would make the users lives easier. In recent history I've done a ton of flashing roms with both mine and my wifes old vibrants and the only time I used adb was if I wanted to push a file to the phone without mounting it on my computer.
PERSONALLY, this whole mess sounds of ego and elitism. I am incredibly greatful to the devs who have paved the way, but fearful of what they are trying to do. No one should have the right to prevent another from releasing something, it's in gross violation of the gpl. If a dev wants to code something under a different license, fine. However it needs to be clearly annotated as such, and devoid of any gpl work itself. In other words, it basically can't contain anything related to android unless it was developed 100% blind through an emulator.
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Are you a troll or do you really believe all that crock you just posted?
The issue with one clicks was an increased risk of bricking with this method. And where does the GPL even come in here at, any GPL code we used as released before the root was even up.?
I stopped a one click from being released today that not only left your phone vulnerable to an attack, but also left you with an outdated, faulty radio and other faulty firmware.
Either you are a troll, have a personal issue with me, or have a seriously problem.
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Can't step on my toes, I got stealtoe boots...
I want a chance to review any one clicks before release. I REALLY want new users to understand what they are doing BEFORE they try one clicking.
I want proper md5sum verifications, I want proper warnings, etc.
I already stopped the release (until fixed) of one 1click root that would of been REALLY bad for the community and anyone using it.
Ppl need to stop blaming me for this crud.
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omfg most of us been rooting since g1 came out THE FIRST DAY come on if modaco was working on this aka paul. like his app visionary he would have it out.... who cares most of us know adb... but i dont want to turn s off i just want root access to remove **** and do a couple mods. why is this such a big fuc88ing deal just release the app and we will all be grateful of who release one click root
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omfg most of us been rooting since g1 came out THE FIRST DAY come on if modaco was working on this aka paul. like his app visionary he would have it out.... who cares most of us know adb... but i dont want to turn s off i just want root access to remove **** and do a couple mods. why is this such a big fuc88ing deal just release the app and we will all be grateful of who release one click root
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o.m.g.
Dude it doesn't work that way on this phone. It is not the G1, z4/visionary/anyonphoneroot does not work, root REQUIRES adb (even with one click).
Fact is, you can't root this phone, temp or perm, one click or not, without ad.
If you can find a way, please do. We are awaiting your one click, root that does not use adb, and is not dangerous.
fyi one click has been released, hours before your post.
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I'm going to cut out all your attacks, because you've clearly missed my point in its entirety and decided to get defensive.
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The issue with one clicks was an increased risk of bricking with this method. And where does the GPL even come in here at, any GPL code we used as released before the root was even up.?
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I brought the GPL in because like it or not, you don't have the right to say who can and cannot release anything regarding "one click" roots UNLESS you yourself made an essential piece of the current rooting method, that is in its entirety your own. To make an analogy, you can't patent (and thus control the distribution) to a Toyota Carolla, simply because you assembled the whole thing from spare parts. If you were to completely design and fabricate a motor vehicle without using off-the-shelf parts you WOULD have that right.
There is nothing personal in my view of this against you, I don't hold any grudges against anyone; but its the mentality here that irritates me, and it just happens that you're the one that posted it:
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I want a chance to review any one clicks before release. I REALLY want new users to understand what they are doing BEFORE they try one clicking.
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I understand you want people to learn; I really do. I've done enough work with computers that I too get really irritated at people who demand answers to questions answered much faster by doing a quick search. I also understand why you want to avoid screw ups because of a poorly made one click. HOWEVER, just because you WANT people to get them cleared through you first; does not mean they HAVE to or that you have a right to demand that they do.
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I stopped a one click from being released today that not only left your phone vulnerable to an attack, but also left you with an outdated, faulty radio and other faulty firmware.
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And thus you've found the wonder of open source software. Sometimes crap gets released. But guess what? Every one of us here are supposed to be adults, or at the very least the authorized users of our phones; which means that if we screw something up, or use something that screws up; its our own damn fault.
The whole purpose of OSS is to allow freedom of ideas and development. I don't know how old you are, or what your experience with OSS outside of Android phones are; but I personally have seen PLENTY of OSS software that started out as utter crap, turn into wonderful software packages. Maybe you're old enough to remember KDE2 vs KDE4, or how about pre v1 Mozilla vs modern versions of Firefox.
I'm not some OSS nutter; I've got no problem with closed source or proprietary software; just a problem with others trying to control things they have no right to.
All that having been said, maybe you DO hold software rights related to some piece of the current rooting method. If so I've seen nothing indicating so, nor anything indicating that any part of the rooting method is not OSS; however if you DO, then you have my apologies, as you would indeed have control over distribution of that specific piece. You still would not be able to prevent distribution of any one click that were released provided they simply had users download your piece separately.
You are missing the point, and obviously did not read anything. This will be my last time wasting time with you until then.
I never said THEY CANT release, I asked them not to, until we had a safer way and time to check it out. Big difference. I stopped one from going out today that would of more or less ruined phones until someone fixed them.
Fact is, MOST of the one clicks I have seen lately, violate the GPL, why don't you go after them, or hell even better we could really use you to go after HTC (in all seriousness).
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I'm going to cut out all your attacks, because you've clearly missed my point in its entirety and decided to get defensive.
I brought the GPL in because like it or not, you don't have the right to say who can and cannot release anything regarding "one click" roots UNLESS you yourself made an essential piece of the current rooting method, that is in its entirety your own. To make an analogy, you can't patent (and thus control the distribution) to a Toyota Carolla, simply because you assembled the whole thing from spare parts. If you were to completely design and fabricate a motor vehicle without using off-the-shelf parts you WOULD have that right.
There is nothing personal in my view of this against you, I don't hold any grudges against anyone; but its the mentality here that irritates me, and it just happens that you're the one that posted it:
I understand you want people to learn; I really do. I've done enough work with computers that I too get really irritated at people who demand answers to questions answered much faster by doing a quick search. I also understand why you want to avoid screw ups because of a poorly made one click. HOWEVER, just because you WANT people to get them cleared through you first; does not mean they HAVE to or that you have a right to demand that they do.
And thus you've found the wonder of open source software. Sometimes crap gets released. But guess what? Every one of us here are supposed to be adults, or at the very least the authorized users of our phones; which means that if we screw something up, or use something that screws up; its our own damn fault.
The whole purpose of OSS is to allow freedom of ideas and development. I don't know how old you are, or what your experience with OSS outside of Android phones are; but I personally have seen PLENTY of OSS software that started out as utter crap, turn into wonderful software packages. Maybe you're old enough to remember KDE2 vs KDE4, or how about pre v1 Mozilla vs modern versions of Firefox.
I'm not some OSS nutter; I've got no problem with closed source or proprietary software; just a problem with others trying to control things they have no right to.
All that having been said, maybe you DO hold software rights related to some piece of the current rooting method. If so I've seen nothing indicating so, nor anything indicating that any part of the rooting method is not OSS; however if you DO, then you have my apologies, as you would indeed have control over distribution of that specific piece. You still would not be able to prevent distribution of any one click that were released provided they simply had users download your piece separately.
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I agree!! If anyone is in violation of GPL license it is HTC.
And once we have that kernel source in the hands of the community amazing things will happen!!
Once the custom kernels start flying you will see the TB doing crazy things. I can only imagine 2GHz speeds or insanely efficient battery life (to name a few)!
ShanDestromp says "And thus you've found the wonder of open source software. Sometimes crap gets released. But guess what? Every one of us here are supposed to be adults, or at the very least the authorized users of our phones; which means that if we screw something up, or use something that screws up; its our own damn fault. "
This has got to be the stupidest statement I have read in a long time, I can guarantee, If you used a 1-click method and it bricked your phone you would be screaming " where's the oversight in this forum, I cant' believe that that mods would allow faulty programming to be posted."
Jcase I for one am glad you are stepping up and doing what needs to be done to prevent a potential $750 brick, thank you sir.
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I never said THEY CANT release, I asked them not to, until we had a safer way and time to check it out. Big difference. I stopped one from going out today that would of more or less ruined phones until someone fixed them.
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I'm not privy to any private conversations, nor do I read every thread here on XDA, so my general impression, which I'm sure is shared based upon what others have said, was of a more explicit "No you cannot," not a "do you mind if I take a peek first". Furthermore, I did not name any one individual "responsible" for any blockade; I only began to interact with you once you brought yourself into the thread. Beyond that, if you go back to my original post, I explicitly thank the people who made root possible at all.
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Fact is, MOST of the one clicks I have seen lately, violate the GPL, why don't you go after them
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For starters I don't know much, if anything about them other than they exist. Unless I personally see something that I think is in violation, I assume good faith. I certainly don't seeking violations.
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or hell even better we could really use you to go after HTC (in all seriousness).
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I'm guessing you're referring to the fact that they didn't release the kernel source as expected this week? I'd mentioned it in another thread, though I don't recall which anymore; but from what I recall of GPLv2 developers have 60 days from the "official" binary release to provide source. To expand on that, HTC has 60 days from when the phone officially went on sale, to provide upon request the source code to any GPL licensed software, however it is version specific. That is to say 60 days from March 17th to make available the source to the firmware that was on the phone when released (since to the best of my knowledge there have been no other OFFICIAL firmware versions released).
Of course any such source will inherently exclude any third party proprietary software, for example if HTC used a closed-source bluetooth stack (not saying they did, just a hypothetical example). Additionally, there isn't any specific method to release stipulated. If HTC wishes they could mail out copies of the source on 3.5" floppies and still be within the rules; and all this assumes GPLv2 is how Android is licensed. If its v3 then I honestly have no clue if any time provisions exist.
I just want to reiterate, I have no ill-will to you nor anyone else. It appears as though the whole issue stems from miscommunication.

motorola razr M prototype?

hi everyone, so i recently saw motorola razr m. the thing is, it had motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it was running jellybean. just the markings were a bit curious, if someone can shed some light on what it was. thanks !
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hi everyone, so i recently bought a second hand motorola razr m. the thing is, it has motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it works totally fine, gsm unlocked and its running jellybean. everything runs as it should, just the markings are a bit curious. ive attached a pic to see if someone can shed some light on what it is. thanks !
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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yea i saw that too. but that doesn't really tell me anything apart from the fact that other phones like mine were also sold(which i already knew).
It would be best to just drop the subject. You have something rare, and if you want to keep it, I would keep it quiet. The guys on the Motorola forum are launching a pretty big investigation into this. I would delete your pic and edit your OP. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone illegal activity, but there is a reason these are out in the open...
Regardless of the circumstances surrounding where or how he got the phone, there ought to be someplace where this guy can get answers as to its origin or what it is exactly without everybody overreacting.
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
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thank you! and btw, that wasn't me who posted in the official forums lol. thats the lase place i would think of posting if i had a prototype haha.
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It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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thank you! and yea, i agree.
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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uh, actually im pretty sure he is telling the truth. its sort of a Pakistani craigslist.
RSD is proprietary software, owned by Motorola. While I know it's very easy to find online, it's not intended for public use. The rules of this site forbid discussion of software installation or use unless that software is distributed by Motorola or one of its partners.
That pretty much sums it up. Had he come to xda, he'd have gotten help. He didn't seem too open to helping the Motorola guys out though, so they didn't help him. Don't see why he would lie about that, he's just a poor guy who wants his confidential Motorola property to work for him... By asking the people that someone stole it from... Yeah...
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guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
dasche said:
guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
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Nope. Since it's factory unlocked, you should be able to install TWRP and go about flashing whatever you want. It might be a wiser choice to buy a regular handset, since you want have Motorola property all over the front.

Shield Kill Switch

Hi figured we could use our own separate thread to discuss the killswitch Nvidia supposedly put in place on our old Shield tablets and see what has worked for those who have received their replacement units. If you've gotten a replacement please share if your old unit has been destroyed or not...if not please let others know what the old tablet has on it or what you did to attempt to prevent the brick! Thanks for helping us all out here!
As I said in the other thread, I received my new one, and my old one is still usable on rooted latest stock, unlocked bootloader, with the only app missing being Chrome for some reason. Nothing else disabled or uninstalled. Maybe they haven't turned on the server that sends the kill signal yet.
If the company wants the other device back (dunno if that is true), why keep it? You are breaking a deal while making it less appeling for companies to do this type of thing...+its a saftey risk for you and others around you.
Nvidia said they do not need it back
ManualG on the Nvidia forum said they are not requiring you send it back
"We don't require you to send it back to us to receive the replacement and are collecting them only to make it less of a burden on everyone else who dont have drop off locations like that close by." So you can keep it if you want ?
16 gig tablet, got it this morning. My original is still functional, it was stock rom, rooted with xposed on it. That's as much modding as I've done with mine.
does anyone have more informations about this killswitch?
Is it a service that needs to be deactivated or deleted or a kernel feature?
I just want to make sure it doesn't kill my old tablet when I set up the new one.
Alternatively, I could just flash an older factory image or custom firmware.
From what I've read on other forums (i.e. reddit) most have indicated that the killswitch is embedded in the bootloader and will activated on the defective tablet once the replacement tablet is registered on the nvidia side. I of course cannot confirm for this to be the case but just sharing what others have reported.
yea but it must communicate with the server then and that only works when Android is booted up and all communication drivers loaded.
So there must be another service running in Android that gives this information to the bootloader to kill itself.
If it's bootloader based, flash a bootloader from one of the older recovery images.
Will try that. BL from Update 2.2.2 should be fine?
actually if I flash it back to 2.2.2 it should be fine too since the changes to 3.X aren't that big
That should work just fine.
big time noob question but where are you getting the old bootloaders from to flash?
Until somebody's tablet gets deactivated and a log is captured during the deactivation process, everything said here or anywhere else is just speculation.
bluegizmo83 is right, however the discussion has to start somewhere so kudos to the OP for getting this thread started.
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bluegizmo83 is right, however the discussion has to start somewhere so kudos to the OP for getting this thread started.
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Oh I completely agree. I'm all for conversion. But I don't want people to get the wrong impression, like trying to flash an older bootloader. That may stop the deactivation, but it also may not. Its only speculation at this point.
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Oh I completely agree. I'm all for conversion. But I don't want people to get the wrong impression, like trying to flash an older bootloader. That may stop the deactivation, but it also may not. Its only speculation at this point.
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Well said. I apologize if my post came through as a solution. I was only mentioning that as folks had mentioned a possible bootloader lock.
Any thoughts on whether flashing CM would serve as a way to circumvent the killswitch? I see that release for this tablet is already available http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...-cyanogenmod-12-shield-tablet-lte-na-t3055043. Thoughts?
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Well said. I apologize if my post came through as a solution. I was only mentioning that as folks had mentioned a possible bootloader lock.
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No problem. As I said, I'm all for the discussion, I just wanted to make it clear to everyone that its all just speculation at this point.
I think the old bootloaders are in the old full OTA's someone correct me if I'm wrong. You can also extract them from the full OTA
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Any thoughts on whether flashing CM would serve as a way to circumvent the killswitch? I see that release for this tablet is already available http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...-cyanogenmod-12-shield-tablet-lte-na-t3055043. Thoughts?
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To me, this is the most logical place to start at this point! Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and installing a custom rom seem like a good starting place. If the stock devices are definitely getting wiped anyways, any changes we make now can't hurt the chances of keeping it alive!

Will Essential support custom ROMs, root, etc.

Anyone hear if they are going to be developed friendly our like Samsung locked down?
I'm a Nexus user for years & running the great Android O beta rooted already.
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Anyone hear if they are going to be developed friendly our like Samsung locked down?
I'm a Nexus user for years & running the great Android O beta rooted already.
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Bump. I wonder the same. Running with my old OnePlus one, all custom software, but have a preorder on a white PH-1....
Given its an unlocked phone, I'd assume the intention is to provide ROOT and encourage development
I really hope so. ??
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I guess we're still waiting on the kernel source and that's why?
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Anyone hear if they are going to be developed friendly our like Samsung locked down?
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Given its an unlocked phone, I'd assume the intention is to provide ROOT and encourage development
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It's carrier unlocked. I haven't heard anything about bootloader unlocked. Which i'm sure it's not, but probably able to unlock easily with "oem unlock" command (hoping anyway). I expect this phone to be easy to unlock, get root, and have a plethora of development. Although it could take some time to get rolling depending on how many devs buy it.
BTW- this thread should be in Discussion or Q & A.
https://www.xda-developers.com/essential-phone-will-have-an-unlockable-bootloader/
Bootloader will be unlockable
The biggest thing is that no one has the phones yet. To really start development we need the phones to extract the firmware and start messing around with the software. Patience, mods will come.
This runs almost completely stock Android, which means we will be abel to do ROMs just like any Nexus/Pixel phone does assuming Essential didnt lock down the "oem unlock" ability. Though they have said in a not 100% official capacity that it will be bootloader unlockable so we should have full ROM and kernel capability .
The bootloader unlock sounds pretty guaranteed, however the roms for Pixel/Nexus devices are built using the official source and kernels released from Google. I wonder how close to stock Essential will run that either they will release sources hopefully close to Google's schedule (which I sort of doubt considering they are launching with 7.1.1 and not 7.1.2) and how much modification their roms may need to run the wireless addon feature and camera on this device. I am hoping we can install and get full functionality out of the Google camera on this device as the stock one does look, limiting, however the wireless addons hopefully will be an easy addon that can be ported to whatever OS builds come down the line..
But like said above, only time and actual hands on can tell.
This thread really doesn't belong in the development section since it's a question it would belong in the Q&A
Anybody getting worried..lol
I'm just hoping for TWRP and Root soon... I'm not in a big hurry for any custom roms.
I'm just hoping that someone could make a custom kernel with gesture support such as dt2w/s2w and wave to activate ambient display.
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
Cowbell_Guy said:
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
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All we need is twrp to get root. Hopefully soon.
NeonHD said:
I'm just hoping that someone could make a custom kernel with gesture support such as dt2w/s2w and wave to activate ambient display.
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YES. Would love this.
Cowbell_Guy said:
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
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Rubin's doing an AMA on Thursday so hopefully we get an answer.
I think we need to wait for the Q&A from Andy tomorrow. That is when we can find out a timeline for when we can get source code to start doing things such as rooting and other modding/ ROM making. Just need to have patience and this phone will take off I think.
Cowbell_Guy said:
If this phone doesn't get rooted within my return window, I'm going to be forced to send it back. I can't get by without titanium
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This is akin to putting the cart before the horse. Wouldn't it have made more sense to get the phone WHEN root and etc was available for it?
The phone isn't going anywhere..

Someone Please Make A ROM!

I've been looking for a custom ROM for the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren for some time now. I'm really hoping someone can do that as we can now unlock our SIM card lock, Root and put TWRP on our phones and get unlock tokens from OnePlus. I think we can all agree that getting better battery life is a must! I would also love having the customized feel of this phone. Let me know what y'all think, and let me know if your able to run the regular OnePlus 7T ROM's on this phone. I would love to meet someone with a ROM on the McLaren device.
Everyone wants that too. But it's not that easy. First we need to get a base software for the phone (international variant software or similar) and that isn't easy when we have different hardware and restrictions on software by OnePlus. Patience. It'll come at some point.
Tip: never buy a carrier based phone for the sole purpose of rooting or modifying. Things don't always go according to plan
I've said this before...I don't think the base for the 7T Pro McLaren is big enough for Dev's to devote the time needed to develop and maintain a ROM for us. This is a T-Mobile only variant only released in the US. Perhaps some of us who has one may take it on but I would not hold my breath. I do think we'll eventually get a TWRP that sticks once someone gets past the R/O for system.
I'm pretty happy unlocked with root for now.
Mike02z said:
I've said this before...I don't think the base for the 7T Pro McLaren is big enough for Dev's to devote the time needed to develop and maintain a ROM for us. This is a T-Mobile only variant only released in the US. Perhaps some of us who has one may take it on but I would not hold my breath. I do think we'll eventually get a TWRP that sticks once someone gets past the R/O for system.
I'm pretty happy unlocked with root for now.
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That's what I'm thinking! My only issue with OxygenOS is the aggressive hibernation of apps in the background... At least with past OnePlus devices, trying to change every setting I could and using a custom kernel didn't always fix the problem.. however, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to tweaking kernel settings, so that could have something to do with it. Any luck with adjusting this? I already requested my unlock token and I'm just waiting to hear back from OnePlus
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That's what I'm thinking! My only issue with OxygenOS is the aggressive hibernation of apps in the background... At least with past OnePlus devices, trying to change every setting I could and using a custom kernel didn't always fix the problem.. however, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to tweaking kernel settings, so that could have something to do with it. Any luck with adjusting this? I already requested my unlock token and I'm just waiting to hear back from OnePlus
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nope, we cant mount system rw so, rooting is sort of pointless
Has anyone found a solution for the excessive battery drain? I just got my token from OnePlus so I'm about to Root the phone and I'm hoping Greenify will work better once rooted. If anyone has any other tweaks to get better battery please don't hesitate to share!
If anyone has even tried. You can just take the source from lineage and build it.
Fix the bugs and there's your rom.
There's alot that goes on behind the scenes.
Ain't nothing on xda anymore but people demanding things instead of reading and learning.
Our device has different modem and that is one of our issues. Not to mention the fingerprint not working properly but apperantly nobody has tried to build it yet
I've been using Blu Spark's kernel and my battery life and performance increased tremendously.
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I've been using Blu Spark's kernel and my battery life and performance increased tremendously.
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Is this the kernel you used ? https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/development/kernel-t4002711
Also is there a permanent twrp recovery ? You have a link ?
Mike02z said:
I've said this before...I don't think the base for the 7T Pro McLaren is big enough for Dev's to devote the time needed to develop and maintain a ROM for us. This is a T-Mobile only variant only released in the US. Perhaps some of us who has one may take it on but I would not hold my breath. I do think we'll eventually get a TWRP that sticks once someone gets past the R/O for system.
I'm pretty happy unlocked with root for now.
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So should I buy this phone directly from one plus in stead on from t-mobile. Thanks In advance!!!
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GDane1 said:
So should I buy this phone directly from one plus in stead on from t-mobile. Thanks In advance!!!
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I just replied to your PM explaining this. Take a look whenever you get a chance. ??
champ784 said:
I just replied to your PM explaining this. Take a look whenever you get a chance. [emoji16][emoji16]
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Sorry!!!
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