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[Q] New TN7 - what to do first: root or upgrade?

Hello guys,
my TN7 is nagging me to upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 via OTA. I've read that with the upgrade the bootloader will be locked and if I tried to root afterwards a full wipe will be neccessary to unlock the bootloader.
So here's my question: if I root first and upgrade then will root access persist or do I have to suffer a full reset anyway? What would you suggest?
Any hints are appreciated!

freeekbert said:
Hello guys,
my TN7 is nagging me to upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 via OTA. I've read that with the upgrade the bootloader will be locked and if I tried to root afterwards a full wipe will be neccessary to unlock the bootloader.
So here's my question: if I root first and upgrade then will root access persist or do I have to suffer a full reset anyway? What would you suggest?
Any hints are appreciated!
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I have not rooted my device but after you upgrade to 4.3, within 5-10 minutes it will ask you again to upgrade to 4.4.2. I think you should consider this also before rooting. ( I am having 4.4.2. )
What is the advantage of rooting TN7?

asratxda said:
I have not rooted my device but after you upgrade to 4.3, within 5-10 minutes it will ask you again to upgrade to 4.4.2. I think you should consider this also before rooting.
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Thanks for the info. Up to now I'm not a big fan of KitKat...
asratxda said:
What is the advantage of rooting TN7?
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All my Android devices are rooted, because in general I don't like the idea that there is a lot of potential hidden from the customer. For example if you want to make Nandroid backups you need root access. And I'm using Nandroids excessively
Other apps like Tasker need root access to use their full potential.
So the question remains: will root stick through the upgrade(s) or not? And if it doesn't, what can I do make it persist?

no, you will need to root after each update. So you might as well do the updates, then the root. many here are wishing they would have just stayed on 4.3 and not rooted (IMHO) The only thing I like about KK is the gamepad mapper.

I did the two updates (4.3 and then 4.4.2) then I unlocked the boot loader and rooted using the tool as it supports the 4.4.3 update.
Was plain sailing and no problems.
Phil

Thanks guys, so I'm going to root on current version to backup all apps and settings. Then I can do both updates and unlock the boot loader without worrying about data loss.
I'll give feedback how it went :thumbsup:

So, I promised to report back. Coming from Android 4.2.2 I did the following:
Root like described in here:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47810386&postcount=1
I used the Chinese method, but please be aware that this way there is strange software installed on your device.
Then I grabbed Titanium Backup Pro and created a backup of all my installed apps. Those backups and important data from internal storage were pushed to a remote FTP server, because I read that unlocking the boot loader also wipes sdcard0.
Next step is installing all three OTA updates. Please be patient, because that this (especially the update to 4.4.2) may take some time.
Unlock boot loader. CAUTION: ALL DATA WILL BE LOST! Follow the instructions of Super Tool:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2627654
Flash ClockworkMod Recovery with Super Tool or manually via fastboot. I recommend Super Tool, because it's very handy to use.
Boot to CWM and flash SuperSU.zip by Chainfire and you should be good to go. Now you can reinstall Titanium Backup and restore your previously backed up apps and data from your remote location!
I hope this could come in handy for someone!

freeekbert said:
So, I promised to report back. Coming from Android 4.2.2 I did the following:
Root like described in here:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47810386&postcount=1
I used the Chinese method, but please be aware that this way there is strange software installed on your device.
Then I grabbed Titanium Backup Pro and created a backup of all my installed apps. Those backups and important data from internal storage were pushed to a remote FTP server, because I read that unlocking the boot loader also wipes sdcard0.
Next step is installing all three OTA updates. Please be patient, because that this (especially the update to 4.4.2) may take some time.
Unlock boot loader. CAUTION: ALL DATA WILL BE LOST! Follow the instructions of Super Tool:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2627654
Flash ClockworkMod Recovery with Super Tool or manually via fastboot. I recommend Super Tool, because it's very handy to use.
Boot to CWM and flash SuperSU.zip by Chainfire and you should be good to go. Now you can reinstall Titanium Backup and restore your previously backed up apps and data from your remote location!
I hope this could come in handy for someone!
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:good: GREAT!!!! you finally rooted your device!!! I just want to ask you, is it possible to flash "SuperSU.zip" from "STOCK recovery" after unlocking the bootloader? i.e
1) Unlock bootloader 2) Flash SuperSU.zip from stock recovery ; thats all, now your are rooted. ???
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I am going to root , but after at least 3-4 month's of usage. In the past I had rooted LG O1, CUBE U9GT4, iBall Andi4.3a. I also love taking BKPs with TB, very useful for game progress.
Have you tried "viper4android audio mod" and "GLTools"(for maximizing graphics performance for any app)?

asratxda said:
I just want to ask you, is it possible to flash "SuperSU.zip" from "STOCK recovery" after unlocking the bootloader? i.e
1) Unlock bootloader 2) Flash SuperSU.zip from stock recovery ; thats all, now your are rooted. ???
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Nope, unfortunately it won't work this way, because the stock recovery system looks for a special signature which is not present in the zip file.
asratxda said:
Have you tried "viper4android audio mod" and "GLTools"(for maximizing graphics performance for any app)?
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Neither one of them. But this is possibly because I don't play games on my tablet usually
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I am going to root , but after at least 3-4 month's of usage.
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Personally I'd do it as soon as possible, because you will lose all your saved data. So the earlier you root, the less you have to restore

[Q] Can't update OTA 4.4.3 w/rooted stock GPE

Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!

Install Stock recovery and then try again

Aamirx12 said:
Install Stock recovery and then try again
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Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.

1337squirrel said:
Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
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Flash it via Odin or simply restore recovery from Nandroid backup..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
this may help you..

1337squirrel said:
Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
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Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).

Joku1981 said:
Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
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I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.

1337squirrel said:
I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
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It's the problem of no read for be vague. It worked perfectly on the GPE of my sister. The update that appears in the website is ready for install it through custom recovery. Read all the guide:

M8 Eye Recovery and Root

Hello everyone. Finally i found it. I want to help everyone who search along time this recovery.
This is twrp recovery for One M8 Eye. First please unlock bootloader via HTC DEV. Than ( fastboot flash recovery twrp-m8eye-2.8.0.3.img ) After that flash UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip ( http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu). Now you have root :good::good:
Thanks Iman Mark and Chainfire
Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B71KxMi9guCSN0V5bU1DSUNaX2c/view?usp=sharing
Please don't forget thanks

This update supersu no longer works. I installed that twrp and did the process for that version of supersu and it said successful. Upon checking supersu, it says the binary files are missing. Then I installed the newer supersu verison through twrp, without deleting the old supersu and now the phone is stuck on htc boot screen. This may work for some, but DO NOT install another supersu over an old one without deleting it first. You WILL get stuck on boot.

Weisheit7 said:
Then I installed the newer supersu verison through twrp
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"Newer" meaning what? Always be specific, otherwise we can only guess. For all we know, you flashed 2.47, which is "newer" than 2.46.
You should be using the latest stable version, which is currently 2.78, which you can obtain the zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703
Try flashing this, and hopefully that works. I'm not certain, but as far as I know, you don't need to delete an old SuperSU app, in order for the proper updated one to work.
Also, a word of basic good practice when modding any Android device: Always make sure you are using the current updated methods according to your OS version.
The files in the OP are from July 15, 2015. That is well before Marshmallow existing. Root methods almost always need to be updated with each major OS version update. There is really no reason to have thought SuperSU from over a year ago would work on a current OS version device.

redpoint73 said:
"Newer" meaning what? Always be specific, otherwise we can only guess. For all we know, you flashed 2.47, which is "newer" than 2.46.
You should be using the latest stable version, which is currently 2.78, which you can obtain the zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/stable-2016-09-01supersu-v2-78-release-t3452703
Try flashing this, and hopefully that works. I'm not certain, but as far as I know, you don't need to delete an old SuperSU app, in order for the proper updated one to work.
Also, a word of basic good practice when modding any Android device: Always make sure you are using the current updated methods according to your OS version.
The files in the OP are from July 15, 2015. That is well before Marshmallow existing. Root methods almost always need to be updated with each major OS version update. There is really no reason to have thought SuperSU from over a year ago would work on a current OS version device.
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You're right, and as of right now I have a different issue. I found a link for the Chinese ROM of the htc m8 eye and I successfully installed it. Now the device is on 4.4.4 rooted. I've tried to do the OTA update but each time in stock recovery it fails after about 20-25% and says "system/bin/reboot has unexpected contents" and fails every time. I have uninstalled supersu from the app itself, deleted all of the residual files and checked the phone for root. Root checker says it's not rooted.
How can I fix the OTA problem through stock recovery? I checked the /system/bin/reboot file and there's nothing there specifically that I can see is corrupted or changed. Is there any possibility that supersu has system permissions and is causing this error? If so, how do I fix the /reboot has unexpected contents problem? How can I delete supersu (su) from having system permissions over everything?
I cannot find a stock Chinese ROM for this device, only the rooted one. I'm at a loss here..

Weisheit7 said:
I've tried to do the OTA update but each time in stock recovery it fails after about 20-25% and says "system/bin/reboot has unexpected contents" and fails every time. I have uninstalled supersu from the app itself, deleted all of the residual files and checked the phone for root. Root checker says it's not rooted.
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Unrooting in order to OTA doesn't work, you need the stock never rooted ROM.

redpoint73 said:
Unrooting in order to OTA doesn't work, you need the stock never rooted ROM.
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I've read online that if you unroot it the OTA update should go through. It depends on how the root was done, correct? If root has (owner) permissions over system files, how can I put it back to stock? Are you aware of any HTC One M8 eye mels_tuhl stock rom China region? I've scoured the internet forever and cannot find one. If you need my getvar info I'll post it here and I appreciate any help you can potentially give me.

Weisheit7 said:
I've read online that if you unroot it the OTA update should go through.
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I can't speak to what you read, if you are vague and don't reference any specific website.
What you read is not correct. Its been verified in the M8 forums many times (at least on the "regular" M8). The fact you unrooted, and the OTA doesn't work, also proved it.
Weisheit7 said:
It depends on how the root was done, correct?
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Incorrect. I haven't seen any root method on the M8, which allows OTA updates after unrooting.
Weisheit7 said:
Are you aware of any HTC One M8 eye mels_tuhl stock rom China region?
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Unfortunately, no.

redpoint73 said:
I can't speak to what you read, if you are vague and don't reference any specific website.
What you read is not correct. Its been verified in the M8 forums many times (at least on the "regular" M8). The fact you unrooted, and the OTA doesn't work, also proved it.
Incorrect. I haven't seen any root method on the M8, which allows OTA updates after unrooting.
Unfortunately, no.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Since then I have corrected the problem. I downloaded a TWRP backup of Marshmallow from another user on here in a different thread, placed it into my TWRP backup folder, wiped system, internal storage, cache etc and then flashed the backup. Everything went well...marshmallow is on the phone and root is gone.

necaticetinkaya said:
Hello everyone. Finally i found it. I want to help everyone who search along time this recovery.
This is twrp recovery for One M8 Eye. First please unlock bootloader via HTC DEV. Than ( fastboot flash recovery twrp-m8eye-2.8.0.3.img ) After that flash UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip ( http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu). Now you have root :good::good:
Thanks Iman Mark and Chainfire
Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B71KxMi9guCSN0V5bU1DSUNaX2c/view?usp=sharing
Please don't forget thanks
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Can you provide another share of the file? The previous link has expired

B161 Firmware

Im, rooted with a TWRP and unlocked BL and Xposed.
If I flash the update.zip in TWRP, what happens?
- Does my phone format?
- Will I retain everything except TWRP, root and Xposed?
Please let me know what would happen if I flashed the ROM via TWRP. Thank you.

Where did you get the update.zip?

Why do not a backup and watch yourself @EnzoDC.
What do you have for a version where do you get it?
I have only the L-31_151 version update.zip..... but not the 161.

Senaxo, cause I heard that when you flash firmware itll remove, root and recov. So backup is pretty useless. Get it? So I wanna know if what happens if I flash.

I have the update.zip installed and everything was removed, since you are right.
Then I had to re-set everything up and re-flash TWRP.
But then I could restore the backup without problems.

EnzoDC said:
Senaxo, cause I heard that when you flash firmware itll remove, root and recov. So backup is pretty useless. Get it? So I wanna know if what happens if I flash.
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If you flash through twrp,you only lose root.
If you flash it through erecovery(stock recovery),your bootloader is relocked and you lose root.
And AGAIN,where did you get the 161 update from?

If I flash via twrp, I only lose root? So I still retain my TWRP recov? Answer me first then Ill reveal ????

EnzoDC said:
If I flash via twrp, I only lose root? So I still retain my TWRP recov? Answer me first then Ill reveal ????
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"Answer me and I'll reveal."
You are really sassy,man. You aren't in any position to make demands,we are trying to help you and us at the same time.
As I said in my post,you only lose root if you flash the update.zip through TWRP,your bootloader will remain unlocked. However,after flashing the update.zip,you will lose twrp so just reflash twrp after booting into the rom.

@The Marionette B161 Firmware is an Asia version, maybe it will also come for us,
here the version update.zip

The Marionette said:
"Answer me and I'll reveal."
You are really sassy,man. You aren't in any position to make demands,we are trying to help you and us at the same time.
As I said in my post,you only lose root if you flash the update.zip through TWRP,your bootloader will remain unlocked. However,after flashing the update.zip,you will lose twrp so just reflash twrp after booting into the rom.
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I wasnt demanding lol. You still have a choice to answer or not. But since you did..
Scroll down this link and youll see B161:
https://www.boycracked.com/2016/09/...s-l31-stock-rom/amp/?client=ms-android-huawei

That is both in Europe and Asia FYI.

Anyone use the Huawei Firmware Finder (Team MT) http://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
There seems to be a B170 update for the VNC-L31-C900 model

The version is only for China ..only China language??

I think China uses other phone method... Like something MHz baseband... I think. It will messed up your network, cannot make phone calls, send sms or no network at all, in worst case scenario.

RS988 21d OTA in the wild

The RS988 finally has a new OS update with Google patch level Dec 1st, and that means that we are finally good against blueborne and krack!
Sent from my RS988 using Tapatalk

I just installed it. It's about time. I was beginning to wonder if they had stopped support on the RS988. I hear the LG G5 is supposed to get Oreo, but I have a feeling that the RS988 will get left out based on how the updates have gone so far.

Hi! Has the modem changed?

I rooted my device with SuperSU and TRWP, is it advisable install this update? Won't it remove or disable the root access?

Nispero said:
I rooted my device with SuperSU and TRWP, is it advisable install this update? Won't it remove or disable the root access?
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From what I know, in order to get the ota your bootloader needs to be the stock one, but I could not find it outside of full kdz packages.
I have not rooted yet waiting for this specific update (given the security fixes).
I would suggest you to backup all of your apps and settings with an app like Titanium Backup, flash stock, install the ota, reinstall TWRP, root and magisk and then restore apps and settings from the backup
Sent from my RS988 using Tapatalk

kattolo said:
From what I know, in order to get the ota your bootloader needs to be the stock one, but I could not find it outside of full kdz packages.
I have not rooted yet waiting for this specific update (given the security fixes).
I would suggest you to backup all of your apps and settings with an app like Titanium Backup, flash stock, install the ota, reinstall TWRP, root and magisk and then restore apps and settings from the backup
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Sorry for asking, but where do I get the flash stock? I loaded SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502.zip and TWRP-3.0.2-1-RS988.img to root after unlocking the bootloader

spinoza_web said:
Hi! Has the modem changed?
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I'm not completely sure (did not write down the previous baseband)
I'm attaching the current info

Nispero said:
Sorry for asking, but where do I get the flash stock? I loaded SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502.zip and TWRP-3.0.2-1-RS988.img to root after unlocking the bootloader
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the best source of full stock roms as well as info on the phone I could find so far is https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/info-autos-g5-thread-t3350648

The way I had to update was to flash 21a and then take OTA's up to 21d because when I flashed 21c back to stock using TWRP and tried to update it gave me an error and then rebooted and said I can't update because I had rooted the device.

kattolo said:
I'm not completely sure (did not write down the previous baseband)
I'm attaching the current info
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Here's the baseband version with RS98821c: MPSS.TH.2.0.c1.4-00047-M8996FAAAANAZM-1.88674.1.101802.1
The numbers are slightly different at the end compared to RS98821d , but I'm not sure what if anything might have changed.

maybe, for getting OTA should we just get unroot? How to do it properly?

If recovery is not the stock one, it will not be possible to install the OTA.
Alternatively you might need to wait for someone to make a flashable zip you could flash with TWRP, but given the fact development on this phone is not too active you might need to wait for a while before is available
Sent from my RS988 using Tapatalk

Awkydee said:
The way I had to update was to flash 21a and then take OTA's up to 21d because when I flashed 21c back to stock using TWRP and tried to update it gave me an error and then rebooted and said I can't update because I had rooted the device.
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I was also planning on flashing the complete 21c zip so that I could take the 21d OTA. Glad to know that might not work.
Anyone know if it would be possible to install just the stock 21c recovery image? It's my understanding that having a custom recovery installed is what makes the OTA installation fail. If TWRP is what's getting in the way of installing the OTA, wouldn't replacing TWRP with stock recovery solve the problem without touching the system? If anyone who knows more about this stuff than me could chime in, I'd appreciate it.

brewerywagon said:
I was also planning on flashing the complete 21c zip so that I could take the 21d OTA. Glad to know that might not work.
Anyone know if it would be possible to install just the stock 21c recovery image? It's my understanding that having a custom recovery installed is what makes the OTA installation fail. If TWRP is what's getting in the way of installing the OTA, wouldn't replacing TWRP with stock recovery solve the problem without touching the system? If anyone who knows more about this stuff than me could chime in, I'd appreciate it.
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First I flashed the magisk uninstaller and rebooted back to recovery. Then I flashed the 21c COMPLETE ZIP and didn't flash magisk so it would replace TWRP with the stock recovery on reboot. Then I rebooted and when I tried to update it went to the stock and threw up an error then rebooted. Upon reboot it displayed a message saying that I couldn't update because my device had been rooted. So I rebooted back in to bootloader and flashed TWRP again. Then I flashed 21a COMPLETE ZIP and no magisk so that the stock recovery would replace TWRP. I rebooted and went through setup and took OTA updates until I was on 21d. Then rebooted back into bootloader and flashed TWRP. Then rooted and we've through setup. I tried every other way but this was the only way that worked for me. I hope it helps!

should be an easier way. Did u see some changes to the radio?

Some of you may remember that last year I had the misfortune of installing the Brightpoint ROM on my Unlocked G5, which completely messed the phone up by not allowing it to connect to AT&T's LTE. It was a process to re-flash the older ROMs/Bootloader and then rebuild it to a stable 21c. I had used it for a while like that, and the only problem I had was that when ending a voice call (HSPA) it would take a while to change back to LTE.
I ended up going with the S8 over the summer (Samsung discount + Note 2 trade in) which got it for $18/month. I've been using it ever since and the LTE to HSPA Voice to LTE change-off on the S8 is done within a second, unlike the G5.
My mom had been using an unlocked Samsung S5 for almost a year now, and it's constantly dropping calls, and this past week it froze on her and required a battery pull, so was thinking of having her try out my (unused) G5 to see if she liked it more. When I turned the G5 on today, I updated all the apps, and then installed the 21d OTA update. The hand-off from voice to LTE still is not as fast as my S8, but seems to be improved from the 21c firmware.

ROM Posted
Just to let you all know, I have posted the latest 21d stock ROM in my thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/stock-21c-roms-flashable-zips-imgs-t3679907

Hi. After 21d received my phone starts to rebbot when I try to play music on phone. No matter if this is stock player or google music. After self reboot music plays normally but if I click pause and wait until first stand by mode, the problem returns. Want to ask you guys to check if you have the same problem or I should download full version of 21d and check if the problem still exists. Thanks.

ingressor said:
Hi. After 21d received my phone starts to rebbot when I try to play music on phone. No matter if this is stock player or google music. After self reboot music plays normally but if I click pause and wait until first stand by mode, the problem returns. Want to ask you guys to check if you have the same problem or I should download full version of 21d and check if the problem still exists. Thanks.
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I'm not having any reboot issues when playing music.