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ICS problem solved. Best of luck to everyone else.

Update - After 2 months I couldn't take it any more so I sold it and actually got a rating of "good". The other solution involved a sledge hammer. I can't believe they didn't notice the 1 hour battery life. More proof that quality control worldwide is going down hill. Apologies to who ever gets mine as a refurbished unit or parts from it.
Screenshots
http://forum.xda-developers.com/album.php?albumid=6825
Battery Life from 100% to 0%
ICS .11 & .17 - 6 to 8 minutes (Pic 1)
ICS .21 - 35 to 52 minutes (Pic 5)
ICS .24 - 50 to 65 minutes (Pic 11)
Bug count
RR & Boot Loop - once on may 14th after 2 months on ICS
Battery meter stuck at 100% - 4 times
Irregular charge and discharge cycles - lost count
Battery meter continues to go up a few % after charger is unplugged - lost count
Screen flickered - 8 times
Screen unresponsive / no input - 11 times
No sound what so ever - once
Irregular charging ping sound - lost count
ICS .24 - Finally got over 1 whole hour of battery life from a full charge.
ICS .21 - Since the 9.2.1.21 update I had it 4 times total, it's been alternating with another bug where it goes from charged to zero battery and shuts down the second I unplug the charger. The infinite power bug must only be triggered by OTA update because I tried reinstalling the .21 firmware. The zero battery "bug" could be the result of the infinite power bug allowing the tablet to actually stay on long enough to completely drain the battery. Since .11 update the charging ping sometimes stutters and sometimes plays half a ping and stops. Just had a new bug of no charging ping. The tablet and the sound was on at the time. Battery was at 82% and icon changed to charge mode but no ping sound.
ICS .11&.17 - battery drain from 100% to 0% in about 7 mins and charges up in about the same amount of time. Had this bug for over a month from march onwards. I first got the infinite power bug after upgrading to ICS, it's where the battery meter stays at 100% for hours on end without being plugged in for charging.
My TF101 is from the B30 batch.
I do not have the dock.
I haven't used the camera since HC and I just noticed there is dust on the INSIDE of my case after the "repair". There's no way to clean it except to open it myself. The trim is also now separating a bit from the main body on the top left and bottom left. When I got it back from the repair center it was just a little on the left side only.
Things I have tried
Downgrading to HC, but method was very old and likely not a complete downgrade as it did not work. Battery status wipe, Reboots, factory data resets, cold boots, changing various settings, etc. I sent it in for repair which was a waste of shipping costs. Emailed ASUS twice, response time is longer than 1 week. Calling is much faster but same results no one knew if it was hardware or software problem. After sending it in for repair the left side of my TF101 looks like it had been spudged open so they could have already check the hardware. Dragging around a 12FT extension cord is still currently the best solution I've come up with.

Thanks for making a dedicated thread!
Suggestion: Throw a couple more keywords in the title to help others find it. Eg: based on your symptoms, maybe add something like "battery meter issues, shutdown when unplugged from charger" or something similar.

did you try wiping the device?

I managed to pre order my TF101 a full week before the official release date. Now it's come back to bite me in the rear end cause my warranty is up today. I have the service number and RMA from march so maybe they will still honor it if it turns out to be a hardware issue.

Nullinvoid said:
did you try wiping the device?
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That would probably be my first step as well, if we assume it's not a hardware problem.

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That would probably be my first step as well, if we assume it's not a hardware problem.
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Do you guys mean the factory data reset cause I tried that at least about 25 times by now in the span of a month.

yanbo2012 said:
Do you guys mean the factory data reset cause I tried that at least about 25 times by now in the span of a month.
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Yep. Have you tried doing a reset and supplying a brand-new Google account, so that it doesn't immediately copy any old data to the tablet? (Or even just not supplying an account or connecting to WiFi / Bluetooth at all, so it's 100% stock)?
Has it ever had a custom ROM or been rooted?

knoxploration said:
Yep. Have you tried doing a reset and supplying a brand-new Google account, so that it doesn't immediately copy any old data to the tablet? (Or even just not supplying an account or connecting to WiFi / Bluetooth at all, so it's 100% stock)?
Has it ever had a custom ROM or been rooted?
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The bug occurs even if no account is entered. Wifi, gps, bluetooth on or off it still happens. I had it rooted to overclock on android 3.2.1 I rolled back to 3.0.1 to unroot and get ICS, quite regretting that decision as it ran fine except for a few browser crashes which doesn't seem like a big deal now. I also tried downgrading to 3.0.1 from ICS, still had the bugs. It's running stock ICS right now and the browser rarely ever crashes.

did you try up up down down left right left right b a start?
Sorry, couldn't resist....

gee one said:
did you try up up down down left right left right b a start?
Sorry, couldn't resist....
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If it had a game controller attached I would have tried that also.

yanbo2012 said:
The bug occurs even if no account is entered. Wifi, gps, bluetooth on or off it still happens. I had it rooted to overclock on android 3.2.1 I rolled back to 3.0.1 to unroot and get ICS, quite regretting that decision as it ran fine except for a few browser crashes which doesn't seem like a big deal now. I also tried downgrading to 3.0.1 from ICS, still had the bugs. It's running stock ICS right now and the browser rarely ever crashes.
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How did you downgrade? It's my understanding that some methods leave the kernel Asus shipped with ICS in place, and hence aren't truly 100% downgrading...

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How did you downgrade? It's my understanding that some methods leave the kernel Asus shipped with ICS in place, and hence aren't truly 100% downgrading...
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That's most likely why it didn't work. I had the link to that guide saved but since it didn't work I deleted it. I'll have to wait for an official release or a better more complete method of downgrading.

I had a similar issue with my phone at one point. I went into cwm and wiped battery stats and it seemed to clear my problem up. I'm sure if it would work in this instance but it couldn't hurt to try.

headbangerkorn said:
I had a similar issue with my phone at one point. I went into cwm and wiped battery stats and it seemed to clear my problem up. I'm sure if it would work in this instance but it couldn't hurt to try.
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Tried that too, twice.

I really don't think this is an ICS issue as you are the only one reporting it (that I've seen). Sounds more like a hardware problem to me....
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jtrosky said:
I really don't think this is an ICS issue as you are the only one reporting it (that I've seen). Sounds more like a hardware problem to me....
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I have sent it in for repair, no change. The left side looks spudged open so they could have checked, but no one can tell me if they actually did check the hardware. They ask me to send it back for repair again. If they did replace it with andother TF101 it could be a refurbished one that has other kinds of bugs and be scratched and in worse condition than mine. If they gave me a brand new one it could also still have these or other issues. I am waiting on official or better unofficial way to downgrade to HC.

If anyone knows more about the hardware for the TF101 please post your thoughts on what could be going on with these bugs.

Could your battery not just be simply shagged?

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Could your battery not just be simply shagged?
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A few days before ICS update I had 7 hours of use out of one full charge. I always shut down instead of sleep. Normal battery life is usually 6 and half to 7 hours and 15 mins. The combined total hours of use during the 100% power bugs after .21 was 4-5. If it is really the battery then ASUS is the stingiest company in the world cause they should have replaced it at the repair center when I sent it in.

has anyone suggested to clear your battery stats in clockworkmod (assuming you have it)
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Motorola Droid Turbo 2 Shutdown,Battery Drain after Nougat update!

My phone is shutting down frequently and battery drain is so high.
Can I downgrade to marshmallow? or even fix these problems by any means?
Help!!

Same here. Battery has been draining like hell. Phone dies on me at work most days,with medium usage.
If anyone has got a fix, please feel free to let us know.
Thanks
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I literally can't use my phone.
Almost everytime I open an app, camera or anything the phone shuts down immediately

I had the same problems. Ended up contacting Motorola and got a replacement.
Still not as reliable as original on Marshmallow.
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Hello everyone, here is what I've done thus far. . .
Factory reset the phone and allowed all items to sync back over from Gmail
Factory reset the phone and DID not sync back over from Gmail
Ran phone in safe mode
Allowed battery to fully drain, then fully recharged using an OEM charger (battery lasted about 26 hours with very minimal usage)
Fully disassembled and reassembled the phone
Contacted Motorola Support (if phone is out-of-warranty, it'll cost you $100 or $125 for a USED REPLACEMENT of an ALREADY OLD PHONE)
Contacted Verizon Support (waste of time -- they just want you to upgrade of course!)
Cleared cached partition in Recovery mode
Attempted rolling back to Android 6.0 (FYI: you can't -- Bootloader is locked -- don't waste your time like me lol)
At this point, at least in my situation, I feel like the problem has something to do with the Battery and some type of "check" that is done when applications are opened. After I fully disassembled and reassembled my phone, I did not have the random reboot issue whatsoever.. UNTIL.. I used a non-OEM charger. After that, I had about 2-3 of the random shut downs that required the phone be plugged into a charger to start back up. At this moment, the phone hasn't had the random reboots since removing it from a non-OEM charger, but I will continue to investigate.
I planned on replacing the battery as well if the problems persisted. Really sucks that nobody in Motorola is willing to help their customers. I have probably spent upwards to 10 hours troubleshooting this issue and trying to find a root cause, but I'm not a mobile phone professional. If you contact Motorola, they just think $$$ and tell you to send in for a replacement instead of resolving the ROOT CAUSE. That ensures the DT2 to be my final Motorola purchase for a very long time.

Will try that
I hope it works, I really do
Because I can't basically use my phone outside because when it turns off I have to turn it on using a charger!!

Sparksys said:
Will try that
I hope it works, I really do
Because I can't basically use my phone outside because when it turns off I have to turn it on using a charger!!
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I have corrected this problem in my Verizon Turbo 2, the fix is to buy and install a new battery.
My own phone gradually lost it's charge capacity, it would deplete rapidly, then it wouldn't power on except on charger, then it wouldn't power on at all.
Funny thing, this problem is on multiple forums with no fix.
I tried, factory reset multiple times lost all kinds of important texts and memos.
Then I changed the battery from here:
ebay: search " New Replace Battery for Motorola Turbo 2 XT1585 Moto X XT1581 SNN5958A FB55 -USA "
I would say it is an extremely easy swap. Just have to heat up the back rubber with a hairdryer to release it, or not! (I didn't, I slowly peeled mine)
If that was helpful, shoot me those sweet wage slavery bills at my paypal catindahat247(at)yahoo(dot)com

utmtech said:
I have corrected this problem in my Verizon Turbo 2, the fix is to buy and install a new battery.
My own phone gradually lost it's charge capacity, it would deplete rapidly, then it wouldn't power on except on charger, then it wouldn't power on at all.
Funny thing, this problem is on multiple forums with no fix.
I tried, factory reset multiple times lost all kinds of important texts and memos.
Then I changed the battery from here:
ebay: search " New Replace Battery for Motorola Turbo 2 XT1585 Moto X XT1581 SNN5958A FB55 -USA "
I would say it is an extremely easy swap. Just have to heat up the back rubber with a hairdryer to release it, or not! (I didn't, I slowly peeled mine)
If that was helpful, shoot me those sweet wage slavery bills at my paypal catindahat247(at)yahoo(dot)com
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I had assumed it was a battery issue myself. I just now replaced my battery as well, so I will see if my problems resolve. $20 for a replacement battery > buying a new phone, that's for sure!

Got mine fixed by changing my charger. In my case my charger was the issue. Yes it's the charger that came with the phone.
I swapped out chargers with my girlfriend,she uses nexus 6. So far the nexus charger has worked magic
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Toxonuts said:
I had assumed it was a battery issue myself. I just now replaced my battery as well, so I will see if my problems resolve. $20 for a replacement battery > buying a new phone, that's for sure!
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Has the battery replacement fixed your issues permanently? Were you getting fast battery drain, or having random shutdown problems?

noybiznatch said:
Has the battery replacement fixed your issues permanently? Were you getting fast battery drain, or having random shutdown problems?
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Sorry for delays! Yes, this has absolutely resolved my problems. I bought my replacement battery off of eBay and I have not had random shut downs or fast battery drain. I will say the battery life isn't as good as a brand new device (from the manufacturer), but it's a barely noticeable difference in battery life.

Toxonuts said:
Sorry for delays! Yes, this has absolutely resolved my problems. I bought my replacement battery off of eBay and I have not had random shut downs or fast battery drain. I will say the battery life isn't as good as a brand new device (from the manufacturer), but it's a barely noticeable difference in battery life.
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I did the same thing and got the same results.

Tab S2 8.0 keeps rebooting.

Hi all. I bought a tab s2 for my step-dad this past Christmas and it keep rebooting once reach like 15-20% battery. One point, it got stuck on Samsung logo. I had to hard reset. I ended up exchanging that tablet with Amazon. Now the exchange tablet is doing the exact same thing. What are the odds of this happening again? Do these suffer from random reboots? I don't want to exchange again and it happens for a third time.
The tablet went to 0% charge. And it didn't turn on since then. It's currently on Samsung logo. I have older samsung tablets. And this never happens.

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Hi all. I bought a tab s2 for my step-dad this past Christmas and it keep rebooting once reach like 15-20% battery. One point, it got stuck on Samsung logo. I had to hard reset. I ended up exchanging that tablet with Amazon. Now the exchange tablet is doing the exact same thing. What are the odds of this happening again? Do these suffer from random reboots? I don't want to exchange again and it happens for a third time.
The tablet went to 0% charge. And it didn't turn on since then. It's currently on Samsung logo. I have older samsung tablets. And this never happens.
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I've been using my SM-T715 for the last 1.5 years and can't remember a single reboot irrespective of battery level.
For others to help, consider sharing your model number and firmware being used. :angel:

Masteryates said:
I've been using my SM-T715 for the last 1.5 years and can't remember a single reboot irrespective of battery level.
For others to help, consider sharing your model number and firmware being used. :angel:
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Sm-713 model. On nougat. I forgot exact number.

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Sm-713 model. On nougat. I forgot exact number.
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You can find those exact numbers somewhere in settings.

Masteryates said:
You can find those exact numbers somewhere in settings.
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i know. i dont have the tablet with me at the moment. but i cant check that anyways. since the tablet wont reboot..

So I sent the tablet in for repair.. they swapped the motherboard.. two days later.. it does the same thing.. so bizarre.. once it reaches zero.. turns off it wont turn back on.. stays on samsung logo screen...

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Sm-713 model. On nougat. I forgot exact number.
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Exactly same model, exactly same problem, I bought it 3 days ago, brand new.

droutis said:
Exactly same model, exactly same problem, I bought it 3 days ago, brand new.
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I'm taking it to samsung directly tomorrow. theres a repair center around me. They said they replaced the board but I don't think they did.

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
I'm taking it to samsung directly tomorrow. theres a repair center around me. They said they replaced the board but I don't think they did.
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I don't think the board is the problem, more likely the battery is the culprit.

droutis said:
I don't think the board is the problem, more likely the battery is the culprit.
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hm.. maybe.. its just weird it charges from 0 to 100% with no problem.. but then it doesnt boot. stays on samsung logo

Wth is going on with this tablet. I finally got it replaced by Samsung. New one is doing the exact same thing. Tablet is been used lightly. The tablet died to 0%. Now it doesn't want to turn on again. Crap is annoying.

Going to restore and install one app at a time and see if maybe it's an app that causing it. It has to be.

I have the same issue with S2 9.7". It randomly reboots with more chance the lower the battery is. Mostly zero chance above 50% then with around under 30% it happens way more often, especially when you install/update apps. So I guess the entire Tab S2 line has a battery issue, maybe a too low voltage over time, resulting in CPU/flash memory becoming instable of too low voltage. Mine was actually just 2 weeks old after showing the issue. Instead of swapping the battery, the repair service mostly will just swap the motherboard, which will not solve this issue.

Thought I had a fix - but I just got a reboot

Hey everyone. Just wanted to tell you i got the exact same problem in my T713. It's most certainly a spike on battery usage and the inability of the battery to keep up due to degradation, as this problem presents when I'm trying to do intensive tasks like watching videos on youtube or entering many apps in a short timespan.
My personal fix was to underclock the CPU maximum frequency using smartpack from 1804Mhz down to 1612Mhz. Obviously you need to root your device for this fix. Once i did this the rate of random reboots diminished substantially while minimally impacting performance. I know its not a perfect solution, but if you use your tablets just lightly, this might certainly work. Changing the CPU governor to some conservative mode might also do.
Hope this helps everyone.

geeman926 said:
Hey everyone. Just wanted to tell you i got the exact same problem in my T713. It's most certainly a spike on battery usage and the inability of the battery to keep up due to degradation, as this problem presents when I'm trying to do intensive tasks like watching videos on youtube or entering many apps in a short timespan.
My personal fix was to underclock the CPU maximum frequency using smartpack from 1804Mhz down to 1612Mhz. Obviously you need to root your device for this fix. Once i did this the rate of random reboots diminished substantially while minimally impacting performance. I know its not a perfect solution, but if you use your tablets just lightly, this might certainly work. Changing the CPU governor to some conservative mode might also do.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Seems to work for me too on my T719. For the first time in ages I was able to use my tablet until it shut down itself because the battery was too low, usually it started rebooting at 35-40% of battery.
Thank you.

Hi,
geeman926 said:
My personal fix was to underclock the CPU maximum frequency using smartpack from 1804Mhz down to 1612Mhz. Obviously you need to root your device for this fix. .
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I'd like to try the underclocking on my T813, could you please explain a bit more what you've done?
Thanks!

[-andi-] said:
Hi,
I'd like to try the underclocking on my T813, could you please explain a bit more what you've done?
Thanks!
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I just installed SmartPack-Kernel Manager (ROOT) from the playstore. Open the app and click the hamburger on the top left. Go to CPU and change the Maximum Frequency. Swipe over the Apply on boot.
I turned mine down to 1382 and I can make it to about 25% before it starts to reboot. We will see if that is good enough for the kids.

Thanks for sharing, will try this too!
I have had the tab sent back under waranty but the problem returned.
At first manifesting itself using a boating navigation (navionics) but this morning opening the play store also rebooted.
After recharging when making a backup AND trying above solution at 40% battery I could at least start navionics, which was hard before.
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Rebooted below 23%, changed cpu settings but forgot to reboot to apply.
Now at 11% and navigation still working.
Edit2:
For the first time in I think over a year I have been able to use the tablet for hours on end!

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Thanks a lot, it did indeed help. I set the frequencies using Kernel Adiutor and for the first time in weeks I was able to use the tablet below 50% battery.

how many have used aftermarket batteries with no issues?

I have 3 aftermarket batteries and over time have all showed the same issues. they may/may not boot, but even if they do, randomly for no reason whatsoever just turn off, like if I were to pull the battery out. it will boot but then keep bootlooping.
as soon as I put in the oem battery, its all fine.
how many have had this issue as well?

rocketman122 said:
I have 3 aftermarket batteries and over time have all showed the same issues. they may/may not boot, but even if they do, randomly for no reason whatsoever just turn off, like if I were to pull the battery out. it will boot but then keep bootlooping.
as soon as I put in the oem battery, its all fine.
how many have had this issue as well?
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Not the same issues but I have a supposed OEM battery which boots but then then phone screen show “Invalid battery” and it shuts down. My V20 is the V995 Verizon model. The battery look the same as the original with the exception that on the top next to the contacts there is a small area, which on the original battery has a white spot, whereas the spare has nothing.
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rocketman122 said:
I have 3 aftermarket batteries and over time have all showed the same issues. they may/may not boot, but even if they do, randomly for no reason whatsoever just turn off, like if I were to pull the battery out. it will boot but then keep bootlooping.
as soon as I put in the oem battery, its all fine.
how many have had this issue as well?
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Both the spare batteries I purchased have worked great, no issues at all.
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I bought
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/1Pp5oNE
and have been using it for 9 months without any problems.

Stransky said:
Not the same issues but I have a supposed OEM battery which boots but then then phone screen show “Invalid battery” and it shuts down. My V20 is the V995 Verizon model. The battery look the same as the original with the exception that on the top next to the contacts there is a small area, which on the original battery has a white spot, whereas the spare has nothing.
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Same thing here with OEM batteries, it's rare but it's happened a couple of times after inserting a new battery. I just hit the power button again and it boots properly and works OK. My wild guess is maybe the battery didn't make proper contact? Dirty contact, maybe? Don't know, it never fails a second time and it's been weeks since the last failure so I'm not worrying about it and if your phone reboots OK after the error and shutdown, I wouldn't worry about it either.
Oh, FWIW, both my batteries have the white spot you mention.
Update, just did it again, hit the power button and rebooted with no problem. It's mildly annoying but not worth worrying about IMHO.

Hi
My battery still shows as "Invalid " on reboot, every time. Have ordered another and hopefully this one will be ok.
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clsA said:
Both the spare batteries I purchased have worked great, no issues at all.
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which have you used and how long have you used them?
cheers

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which have you used and how long have you used them?
cheers
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I tried to link the ones I got at Amazon
But it just gives a sorry page not found error
They were sold as official OEM but the markings on the back have small differences
I also have a zero lemon but it's no where near the quality of the others.
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These days batteries lasts only two years. After that one day battery will stop working suddenly. This happened to my one plus one which was having normal battery but started rebooting suddenly one day. The service center guy said these modern batteries have some kind of kill switch which will trigger after a number of charging cycles.
The reason I bought lg v20 with an extra battery was to use it longer that two years.

I'm using this one since several months and had no issues. It took a few charges before getting my usual 4-hour SOT though. https://www.amazon.ca/Perfine-BCK-5200-BL-44E1F-Replacement-T-Mobile/dp/B06XTYCXJ5

I've had 6 different varieties of battery, including the IPossible 6600 (?) and the Li-Po. I've gotten the invalid battery message a couple of time but I just reboot and everything is fine. I've had the phone since 10\16 and I'll think about getting the LG V50 a year after it's released. I love this phone\Audio-God!

Still getting "Invalid battery" and shutdown, reboot and the same thing happens. Still waiting on my replacement due 18th. Original battery is now not lasting a full day but then I have had the V20 since Jan 2017. My main problem is that Amazon will not send batteries or liquid items to here in N. Ireland so have to try and source elsewhere.

I bought the Powerbear 3200 MAH, haven't received yet. but do you guys recon it's good?

S10+(SM-G975U1) battery life went bad

Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><

You might need to take it somewhere and have a tech look at it or contact Samsung on it or claim warranty with Samsung.

See if it does it in safe mode.
Probably a rogue apk(s)... a software issue.

okay i'm going to give a try on safe mode

it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.

Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung

zackyo said:
it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.
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I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
In Developer options look at running services.
Also in the same look at Standby apps; all buckets should show as active. If not then power management** is active, disable all power management; Android will manage it's self nicely.
Enable only the "Optimized" option for display/cpu and fast charging in Device Care.
Use the factory load version of Device Care if on Pie. Firewall block it though after which use it's system cache cleaner.
Download Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker from the Galaxy store.
Download Karma Firewall from Playstore.
Consider using this: https://www.packagedisabler.com/
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
**track down the roque apks one by one and deal with them without using power management options.

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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i completely agree with you
there no point replacing the battery like i did
Li-Ion/Li-Poly can't go bad in just 1 night unless it blow up or something
even my previous note 5 battery can take charge day in day out for over 3years without needing a new battery.

blackhawk said:
I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
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i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.

zackyo said:
i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.

blackhawk said:
Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.
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agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
blackhawk said:
Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.
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i totally understand what you meant xD and yeah hopefully that won't be necessary.

zackyo said:
agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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I haven't been a saint with the 10+'a battery but the insults add up if you do it every day.
Likewise being conservative with the charging and temp parameters should too.
It will be interesting how long this battery lasts as I use the phone a lot.
Accubattery to spite it's faults is a good monitoring tool. It's charge reminder is handy and it's milliamp overlay has been useful.
It also logs charge/discharge milliamps and times which is probably the best battery indicator.

speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device

zackyo said:
speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device
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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...

blackhawk said:
Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...
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okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet

zackyo said:
okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet
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Disable Android updates. Only update after others have given feedback and you have more to gain than loss. Once you update you may well need to start this witch hunt all over.
Androids are fun to play with... go to it

noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?

zackyo said:
noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?
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Depends what you want. If not sure, play with this one for a while.
I'm still running on Pie on my 10+ so I don't bother looking much at updates.
I'm not pleased with Q though so it's a no brainer to stay with Pie. At this point I have near zero issues, it's fast, stable, it does all I need it to do and runs the apps I use well.

zackyo said:
Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><
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Dial *#0228# in telephone app , and a advanced-looking app will pop up, click on quick start, neglect any warning messages.