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I'm another owner of the K1. I've had it for a while now since xmas and I do like it, but I cant get over the locked bootloader. I was hoping to be able to overclock it so apps for school would run nice and smooth but it doesnt seem to be happening.
Do you guys think I should hold onto it and wait for a root with recovery and hopefully some mods? Or just sell it and try to get a tegra 3?
I'm torn between this man because I have a beefy laptop so I dont need a quad core tablet, I just want it to be smooth. Kernels, overclocking and custom roms always did it for me in prior phones, now its like we're forced to upgrade every year
shoot me some advice
manooti said:
I'm another owner of the K1. I've had it for a while now since xmas and I do like it, but I cant get over the locked bootloader. I was hoping to be able to overclock it so apps for school would run nice and smooth but it doesnt seem to be happening.
Do you guys think I should hold onto it and wait for a root with recovery and hopefully some mods? Or just sell it and try to get a tegra 3?
I'm torn between this man because I have a beefy laptop so I dont need a quad core tablet, I just want it to be smooth. Kernels, overclocking and custom roms always did it for me in prior phones, now its like we're forced to upgrade every year
shoot me some advice
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It has already been rooted. Once rooted you can OC all you want.
Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to make sure because the K1 doesnt even have its own category in xda.
So, this wont need a kernel to oc?
manooti said:
Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to make sure because the K1 doesnt even have its own category in xda.
So, this wont need a kernel to oc?
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I do not OC, but have read links saying there are OC tools and all you need is root. So, you'll have to Google it knowing that you can get root and see if that's correct.
TD
timmyDean,
Thanks. Im just hoping to not run into any problems with overclocking it. Ive rooted a lot of phones and overclocked them all.. even overclocked my pc. Since I started I cant stop lol. Its compulsive, i know, but there is a difference in responsiveness so it's not all my my head lol
I'm on A301_13_13_111209_US
Kernel 2.6.36.3
Do you know which method I should run?
Sort of confused in your development thread about using different blobs and updating with OTA.
Yup, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21309379&postcount=50
This will flash you directly to 13_13US rooted!
You're the man! I'll be attempting this tonight. Hopefully all goes well.
One question tho, if someone manages to port over cwm, will there be custom roms and so on for this tablet? I saw someone working on porting cwm, but doesnt look too promising.
manooti said:
You're the man! I'll be attempting this tonight. Hopefully all goes well.
One question tho, if someone manages to port over cwm, will there be custom roms and so on for this tablet? I saw someone working on porting cwm, but doesnt look too promising.
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CWM is already ported. I haven't tried it, but according to the developer it works. I have no reason to use it because there's nothing I want to load. I suspect it's just being used to make backups because I haven't seen any chatter on custom ROMS. As far as custom ROM development, who knows. In my opinion these Lenovo are 'junk'. Again, my opinion. Lenovo doesn't want you to modify their devices, so they make it hard to root. They want you to go to them for a custom ROM. We've tried that and it's a joke. We develop drivers and special drivers for hardware and develop several applications for vertical markets. Chances are, if you have a HC tablet you've got a driver buried in there that we wrote (our NDA keeps me from saying who, but I would say every make listed in these forums --if I were to guess). Our vertical applications cannot be sold as a solution to a fortune 500 company with us demanding they buy a custom Lenovo hardware. That has only worked with Government sales because the Lenovo suits convinced them that they are super secure.
Anyway, good luck
TD
Thats some good info man. Now I'm thinking of rooting and throwing it up for sale as rooted and buying a transformer prime
manooti said:
Thats some good info man. Now I'm thinking of rooting and throwing it up for sale as rooted and buying a transformer prime
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Also, might I add they seem to want to restrict you and feed you a bunch of their 'bloatware'. A few months back, when they were in talking with our management team they said they were offering a complete solution hardware and software. They want to make money on their Marketplace applications, etc etc. I sort of got the impression they thought that was where the real money was and not in just selling tablets.
TD
Now that makes sense. Theyll never release an unlocked boot
This sucks man..
Going to root after ghost adventures
One question before I go all the way with it, whats the procedure for updating with new releases? Best to wait for your releases?
manooti said:
Now that makes sense. Theyll never release an unlocked boot
This sucks man..
Going to root after ghost adventures
One question before I go all the way with it, whats the procedure for updating with new releases? Best to wait for your releases?
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New releases, go for it:
This is what I do:
1. Backup my apps because if the OTA knocks out root(#), you have to flash it.
2. I install the backdoor
3. I backup the su
4. I lock the su and backup su so updates HOPEFULLY don't break root(#)
5. Then I take the OTA.
6. After OTA, I reconnect and see if root(#) is still working. If not, I try the backup root(#). If they are both gone, then I hope the backdoor still works. If not then I flash back to where I was. I then ***** at Lenovo and look for a way to hack it.
Anyway, the backdoor and locking of su are in a script file you can run as long as you have adb working. 99% of the time su stays (because you lock it) or the backdoor works. Also, before taking the OTA you can usually download and see what they are changing. If it breaks root and the back door then what I usually do is pull it apart and build a custom system.img. Inside the OTA zip will be the boot.img. You can actually take it and 'cook' it in your kitchen adding root. Then you take the system.img from a prior release, mount it, and replace all the files with the ones inside your OTA. Make sure you account for blob changes if they are in the OTA. If there's a blob, then put it in the blob tool folder, extract it, and add it to the flash and replace bootloader.bin. Swear some more at Lenovo, and flash in your custom ROM. Now ad su and busybox, and superuser.apk. Use the dump tools in dump folder to build a new system.img. Replace your cooked boot.img with the original OTA boot.img and you're done.
TD.
Then ***** at Lenovo some more lol.
Thanks for the tips, Ill try the script if there is a reasonable update for it ie ICS.
For now the root worked.. flawlessly. Thanks for your work man.
Is it possible to un-lock the boot loader on this device? I have read that ATT has locked boot loaders.
Also do I need root to enable USB Host? When I use USB host checker , android,hardware.usb.host is checked green.
But,
Hanheld.core_hardware.xml & _core_hardware.xml are X'ed in red.
Any assitance would be greatly appriecieated
Not possible to unlock
To be more accurate, it is very very very very unlikely to be unlock able.
Sent from my SM-T330NU
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smknutson said:
Not possible to unlock
To be more accurate, it is very very very very unlikely to be unlock able.
Sent from my SM-T330NU
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I have the SM-t537a, Or the new 10.1 I used towel-root and it did in fact give me full root, Also unlocked the device. I only tested it for root with one of the root checkers from the play store I am sorry I cannot remember witch one. I booted to recovery mode and had full access to the boot-loader
However there are no roms for my device as it is so new. The towel-root is available on the net, I just typed in towel-root on Google,. It took me 3 or 4 tries before I got a clean link,just be careful and follow the instructions, and you should have no problems.Here is the good link for the towel root .apk just go to Google search and type in towel root. I am new here so I cannot post the link, but it is towel root by geohot.
Towel root won't install on my device even though i told it to allow unknown apps. Any ideas on why this is? I have the ATT tab 4 also. I really want to unlock the bootloader on this if anyone knows a work around.
kqarin said:
Towel root won't install on my device even though i told it to allow unknown apps. Any ideas on why this is? I have the ATT tab 4 also. I really want to unlock the bootloader on this if anyone knows a work around.
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hopefully you already found your answer... you have to downgrade to an exploitable version T537AUCU1ANE1 then use TR. I had the same issue around the start of this year. It's posted in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785869&page=25#post58495094
OK, I just got this damn Samsung tab 4. I Have the exact one (ATT), it is running 4.4.2. TR does NOT work on this, tried it. Can someone point me in the direction for another method. Looking for the method flashing older version to gain root. Usually google will get me where I need to go, not this time.
mbl1979 said:
OK, I just got this damn Samsung tab 4. I Have the exact one (ATT), it is running 4.4.2. TR does NOT work on this, tried it. Can someone point me in the direction for another method. Looking for the method flashing older version to gain root. Usually google will get me where I need to go, not this time.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61370235&postcount=1
Thanks rep, going to give this a try this afternoon. If this works I'll keep the tablet lol.
OK, so that root process worked. Big smile on my face. Now to get a custom recovery on this and flashe a rom. Anyone now of one for sm-t537a?
mbl1979 said:
OK, so that root process worked. Big smile on my face. Now to get a custom recovery on this and flashe a rom. Anyone now of one for sm-t537a?
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AT&T and Verizon lock all their bootloaders, so unfortunately custom recoveries and custom kernels are impossible. You could build a custom rom, just as long as it was able to run on top of the stock kernel (so no cyanogenmod). You still have to figure out a way to flash it (Flash Fire maybe?)
Dang. Time to sell this thing lol.
So when did all this get so complicated? I take a hiatus from Android for a year or two and come back and everything is locked down. Maybe I'm wrong, but it never used to be this difficult.
Locked bootloaders are a terrible thing
I have tried many methods to bypass boot loader and install CWM or TWRP on i337 phones, all for which they failed, I am not sure whether because I have NC1 device
My phone is Rooted, NC1, My ultimate objective is to install T mobile Rom, so I can get Wifi-calling on my at&t, what do I need to do in order to that??? I am willing to downgrade or anything to reach my objective.
Here are some guides that I saw at
galaxys4root dot com
"How to Install GT-i9505/T-Mobile Custom ROMs on AT&T Galaxy S4!"
But i couldn't Install cwm or TWRP to proceed. Please Help.
you are post mdl build and can not run cwm or custom twrp only safestrap recovery. surprised you didn't run across that when you rooted and installed safestrap--
as far as wifi calling--don't know, but believe i have read not on an att phone
rugmankc said:
you are post mdl build and can not run cwm or custom twrp only safestrap recovery. surprised you didn't run across that when you rooted and installed safestrap--
as far as wifi calling--don't know, but believe i have read not on an att phone
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OH right (I did this long time ago so forgot most of it), So if I wanted to install a tmobile s4 custom rom (DARTHSTALKER) on my i337 I could use safestrap, and then flash my kernel using odin for it to work? or that would break the phone?
not sure, i don't use SafeStrap and not familiar with rom
i would make sure it is safestrap compatible and see if any other att folks have flashed it
i do that by skimming last 30 pages and in-forum search for safestrap and att
or you can ask, but have found most times you get no answer on those type of questions. it has to be TW based--
You can get full root access on NC1
devil_2 said:
I have tried many methods to bypass boot loader and install CWM or TWRP on i337 phones, all for which they failed, I am not sure whether because I have NC1 device
My phone is Rooted, NC1, My ultimate objective is to install T mobile Rom, so I can get Wifi-calling on my at&t, what do I need to do in order to that??? I am willing to downgrade or anything to reach my objective.
Here are some guides that I saw at
galaxys4root dot com
"How to Install GT-i9505/T-Mobile Custom ROMs on AT&T Galaxy S4!"
But i couldn't Install cwm or TWRP to proceed. Please Help.
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It's very hard to achieve what I did in these screen shots... sorta lol I just got the phone delivered yesterday at 2pm and hit Red Bull for 15 hours hacking it... I have full root access in system... knox is frozen by TiBu as you can see SELiniux is permissive, SuperSU Pro in control without a popup warning... I do have a new boot screen though with the unlocked lock lol. Bye bye warranty! I bought the 2 year replacement one and they don't care if it's rooted lol.
Check out the screen captures... I had to slug it out getting one app at a time til I finally figured out how to get TiBu su access... that was the key! I'd have to write a small novel explaining it, and I'm tired as heck lol. Some shots were too big. Point is... its stable I don't think you get this with safe strap do ya? Maybe ya do... but I hacked it lol. Still stock OS with a lot of freezes. If this is something different and ya wanna know reply to the message, but it takes a while and you need to really know your adb commands and be good with terminal emulator because it' s literally all you'll have for most of the 'fight' with Knox... and it really is. Lucky it didn't boot loop lol but I wanted full root access. I'll just deodex it and get rid of the bloatware later. I still wish I could flash CWM though lol. I like AOSP roms
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It's very hard to achieve what I did in these screen shots... sorta lol I just got the phone delivered yesterday at 2pm and hit Red Bull for 15 hours hacking it... I have full root access in system... knox is frozen by TiBu as you can see SELiniux is permissive, SuperSU Pro in control without a popup warning... I do have a new boot screen though with the unlocked lock lol. Bye bye warranty! I bought the 2 year replacement one and they don't care if it's rooted lol.
Check out the screen captures... I had to slug it out getting one app at a time til I finally figured out how to get TiBu su access... that was the key! I'd have to write a small novel explaining it, and I'm tired as heck lol. Some shots were too big. Point is... its stable I don't think you get this with safe strap do ya? Maybe ya do... but I hacked it lol. Still stock OS with a lot of freezes. If this is something different and ya wanna know reply to the message, but it takes a while and you need to really know your adb commands and be good with terminal emulator because it' s literally all you'll have for most of the 'fight' with Knox... and it really is. Lucky it didn't boot loop lol but I wanted full root access. I'll just deodex it and get rid of the bloatware later. I still wish I could flash CWM though lol. I like AOSP roms
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Would have been easier on you to use TowelRoot which would give full root access and then use safestrap for its recovery. Could of avoided the 15 hours in about 1 minute with the TowelRoot app
I did try it. Several times. Didn't work at all... It was a lot of fun doing this honestly I haven't had a good challenge in a while lol. I managed to hack knox out of my device using nothing but the device itself and knowledge I have. I really don't want multiple Roms in my device. I just want one ROM like I have in all the others, and that's what I have now and I got CWM installed last night finally... A bit glitchy and not 100% stable yet... It has issues backing up to external SD for some reason. It'll backup to internal though. I used it to flash a small and meaningless update.zip I assembled to test it and it worked with it I'm not sure it would be successful using a backup yet either to restore the device... If I just used towel root I wouldn't have ever figured any of this out, and if I can get it a bit more simplified and figure out which particular steps or combinationof steps allowed me to exploit the system and get it in tthere and I can get it stable... I can tell everyone else how to do it. A friend on XDA is working on a tool now to simple install SuperSU into system... He done it on another device and got cwm installed on a device with a locked boot loader also. I used some of the code to get an idea how to do it on the sgh-i337. Its not impossible... Just hard to figure out I think that's one of the things XDA exist for... To learn and progress and help others... Right?
Lt1streconbn said:
I think that's one of the things XDA exist for... To learn and progress and help others... Right?
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Right, absolutely. Good job. We'll be curious how you do it once you get it figured out.
devil_2 said:
OH right (I did this long time ago so forgot most of it), So if I wanted to install a tmobile s4 custom rom (DARTHSTALKER) on my i337 I could use safestrap, and then flash my kernel using odin for it to work? or that would break the phone?
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Why a T-Mobile rom on an AT&T phone. Why not use one for an AT&T phone?
tailgunner9 said:
Why a T-Mobile rom on an AT&T phone. Why not use one for an AT&T phone?
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For t-mobile wifi-calling
Well Great Job then, I do applaud you for your work you done. Hopefully for those that are stuck using safestrap you can get it to the point they could use cwm. That would be awesome.
tailgunner9 said:
Why a T-Mobile rom on an AT&T phone. Why not use one for an AT&T phone?
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I seriously would not try that using safe strap in i337 @ this point. The ROM would need to be ported as a multicarrier , which is pretty simple in and of itself... A lot of debugging I'd imagine though. You'll only get 2g speed using ATT device on TMO ya know. They have different 3g and 4g LTE bands. It just won't work. If you flash that ROM.. IIt's very likely you'll soft brick or hard brick the device. I have the ATT kernel decomped now working with it... I haven't downloaded any existing ROMS used with i337 yet, but I'll get one and check it out and see what has been done with Knox in it. Just very risky flashing a ROM not specific to your device...
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
KaboneIsLegend said:
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
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Nope. We can still have custom roms but we're just stuck with the one kernel required for root.
KaboneIsLegend said:
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
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Bootloader is still locked. As of right now there is no way to unlock it so there is no way to have a custom ROM.
If you look at the development thread, you can see the options. One is a mod of the OEM ROM (PD8 only), but the other two are ROMs - on bade on 935U (echoe) and the other is a cleaned up modified Stock ROM.
With the locked bootloader you can only flash signed by Samsung ROMs - so no ASOP, CMxx ROMs. But by taking a stock ROM or the exiting unbloated one (with permission if you want to post your ROM - which would be welcome) it is something you can do right now (after you are rooted of course).
We also don't have custom recoveries, but flashing and backing up with FlashFire works pretty good, so go for it !
Binary100100 said:
Nope. We can still have custom roms but we're just stuck with the one kernel required for root.
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Your talking the engineering boot.img ?
ShrekOpher said:
Bootloader is still locked. As of right now there is no way to unlock it so there is no way to have a custom ROM.
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No way to force this?
gaww said:
If you look at the development thread, you can see the options. One is a mod of the OEM ROM (PD8 only), but the other two are ROMs - on bade on 935U (echoe) and the other is a cleaned up modified Stock ROM.
With the locked bootloader you can only flash signed by Samsung ROMs - so no ASOP, CMxx ROMs. But by taking a stock ROM or the exiting unbloated one (with permission if you want to post your ROM - which would be welcome) it is something you can do right now (after you are rooted of course).
We also don't have custom recoveries, but flashing and backing up with FlashFire works pretty good, so go for it !
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I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can we fake signing? Also where would I need to go to research what needs to be done to remove the locked bootloader for my specific device? Maybe I can contribute something towards helping this get done. Are there any places people have shared their research?
Thanks guys for the awesome replies
KaboneIsLegend said:
I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can we fake signing? Also where would I need to go to research what needs to be done to remove the locked bootloader for my specific device? Maybe I can contribute something towards helping this get done. Are there any places people have shared their research?
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People have been working on this since the device launched back in March. As far as I know, the files are cryptographically signed by Samsung, and the only way to bypass that is to find some kind of security exploit. As of yet, it hasn't been done. The leaked engineering kernel is basically the only known path at the moment to step outside of Samsung's locked down system.
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People have been working on this since the device launched back in March. As far as I know, the files are cryptographically signed by Samsung, and the only way to bypass that is to find some kind of security exploit. As of yet, it hasn't been done. The leaked engineering kernel is basically the only known path at the moment to step outside of Samsung's locked down system.
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Alright I will look into this then. I'm new to the android scene, but have experience with disassembly for applications, and reverse engineering for the older video game consoles. So why is there an option to oem unlock the phone if it doesn't really do that?
KaboneIsLegend said:
Alright I will look into this then. I'm new to the android scene, but have experience with disassembly for applications, and reverse engineering for the older video game consoles. So why is there an option to oem unlock the phone if it doesn't really do that?
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Because not all variants have a locked bootloader. Just the US Qualcomm versions.
Binary100100 said:
Because not all variants have a locked bootloader. Just the US Qualcomm versions.
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Thanks for that. I understand now.
We are rooted only because of the engineering bootloader. Stupid question time - with the problems with the kernel which are only partially fixed, ccouyld the kernel inself be modified or would it then be blocked by the bootloader.
There may custom kernels out there that would not work on a locked bootloader, but is the engineering kernel possibly open to modifications?
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
follow this (use odin to flash rooted kernel) ......you should search before posting things like this.....google is your friend bro.
GOOD LUCK - BTW use flash fire app in play store to make backups and flash roms
Okay okay.
A quick glance at T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion would have led you to the "How to root the S7 EDGE" thread.
I'd take a look in there if I were you.
Binary100100 said:
Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
EDIT: I just checked and the root didn't go through... even though ODIN said it was successful
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
Binary100100 said:
What you wrote above
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So for what I understood the dev support for this phone is very limited... I know the issues I may encounter, I had them with the galaxy note. but any way... If something I'll unroot it but I want to try it out Thank for you time. I've rooted it.
EDIT: Damn... I really don't like the visual style of Echoe... is that one the only one I can flash??
Binary100100 said:
Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
Arturofm2 said:
How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
Binary100100 said:
I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
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Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
Arturofm2 said:
Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
Binary100100 said:
I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
Arturofm2 said:
bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammmobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
Binary100100 said:
You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
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You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I didn't do it through that page. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
tduquefjc said:
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
Arturofm2 said:
You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I kept it. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
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Arturofm2 said:
If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
Binary100100 said:
You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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Perfect! All I did was reboot it, and the unlocked padlock went away, thank you very much for all your help! Happy new year!