USB Gamepad support on Moto G4 ? - Moto G4 Questions & Answers

Going crazy here trying to connect my wired knockoff PS3 Gamepad to the G4 ! The cable is good it seems as I can connect a thumbdrive and OTG Troubleshooter detect OTG when I plug in the Gamepad. Unfortunately is it NOT recognized by any games.
I found a Gamepad discussion for the Moto G and some people were having similar problems, one trick was to use USB Joystick Center 2015. That app is no longer on the Appstore for some reason but I found it on an APK repository. It did indeed find my Gamepad (MaxFire Blaze 2) but I can't really map keys automatically or manually.
Anyway, has anyone had more luck ? Thanks for any help !
PS - managed to connect a bluetooth Gamepad but that's creating massive interference with the WiFi connection to my drone , hence my quest to use a USB Gamepad.

Answering my own question, hopefully it will help someone, managed to get USB PS3 Gamepad native support by flashing the Pacman ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/rom-pac-rom-6-mm-moto-g4-g4-plus-t3453595

Well, it gets better, using the stock ROM and flashing the Elemental Kernel here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/kernel-elementalx-g4-0-01-t3424836 actually adds USB PS3 Gamepad support, wonderful !

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[Q] Wired (Wireless) Dualshock 3 - aquiring full touch emulation?

So, these last few days I've been trying to achieve the functionality of the Sixaxis Controller touch emulation when connected by bluetooth, while using a Mini USB - Micro USB cable instead of bluetooth. I'm doing this because I want to control my computer via Splashtop Gamepad THD with the Dualshock 3 controller, worth mentioning is that it's an original version, not a knockoff. Bluetooth interferes with the WiFi to a level I consider unacceptable, lowering performance by 50-75%.
I've also tried it with USB/BT Joystick Center 8, bluetooth works fine, but wired doesn't even though the developer claims it's supported. The app finds the controller, but doesn't react to any buttons.
Do anyone of you know of a way to solve this?
I'm pretty much **** out of luck unless I get this working or find a USB WiFi stick and android drivers for the 5Ghz band, which I'm not having much luck with. So any help leading to one of these goals would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

Controller / Gamepad Support

I could have sworn when I had my Samsung S2 I would plug in an xbox controller via usb through a USB OTG cable and it would just work in games. This isn't happening with my Verizon LG G2 that I thought supports USB OTG. When I plug in a media card reader for example I actually see a popup like something is working. Nothing pops up when I plug in the xbox controller.
Anyone get a gamepad to work or have suggestions?
Here is someone else with the same issue that seems to have made some progress:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/54617/wired-xbox-controller-not-working-with-lg-g2
Where are my fellow Android gamepad gamers? You are all on bluetooth controllers? : )
tahlsr said:
Here is someone else with the same issue that seems to have made some progress:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/54617/wired-xbox-controller-not-working-with-lg-g2
Where are my fellow Android gamepad gamers? You are all on bluetooth controllers? : )
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I'm on Moga and Moga Pro Bluetooth controllers! Don't have a OTG cable. I did get a slimport cable though, and let me tell you, it is sweet playing Modern Combat 4 in 720p on my projector (don't have a 1080p projector) with a wireless controller ON A PHONE!
so you love the Moga? I guess I just figured since I had an xbox controller I'd save the money and only have to worry about battery life on the phone and not the controller. Also the xbox controller is awesome. What to do.... ugh.
Anyone else with gamepad setups they want to share? I guess I'll end up pulling the trigger soon if I can't resolve this. My gaming impatience will get the best of me : )
Another reason why I want wired is to reduce lag etc.. although I don't have experience with bluetooth lag but any perceptible amount is not worth it to me. So check out the email I wrote to LG:
to: LG
How come when I plug in my xbox controller through a usb otg cable it doesn't work? It should. Please see this post:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/54617/wired-xbox-controller-not-working-with-lg-g2
By the way, I really love this phone. Just hope you guys can enable gamepad support and pay to click using google wallet and the nfc chip.
Please advise,
Thanks so much,
Tahl
Here was their response... ha:
I apologize that you are having problems with the phone. If your xbox controller is not working with the phone you would have to get repair or troubleshooting information from Customer Care of Xbox.
If you are reading this, hope you had a good laugh too.
I ask LG a solution
tahlsr said:
Another reason why I want wired is to reduce lag etc.. although I don't have experience with bluetooth lag but any perceptible amount is not worth it to me. So check out the email I wrote to LG:
to: LG
How come when I plug in my xbox controller through a usb otg cable it doesn't work? It should. Please see this post:
By the way, I really love this phone. Just hope you guys can enable gamepad support and pay to click using google wallet and the nfc chip.
Please advise,
Thanks so much,
Tahl
Here was their response... ha:
I apologize that you are having problems with the phone. If your xbox controller is not working with the phone you would have to get repair or troubleshooting information from Customer Care of Xbox.
If you are reading this, hope you had a good laugh too.
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I do the same.
I have no solution to connect my wired xbox 360 controller to my LG G2 (if anybody has one, tell me)
I really like my phone and my controller
I hope LG will reply me in a good way but ...
wait and see.
Please ... tell me there is a solution.
Out of curiosity, did you try an AOSP ROM to see if it worked? I did not at this point.
tahlsr said:
Out of curiosity, did you try an AOSP ROM to see if it worked? I did not at this point.
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I didn't
I like the Mogas but they Feel similar to a 360.
Personally I think you can't get any better then a PS3 controller. It will work Wired out of the box (haven't tried on the G2) and also wirelessly through bluetooth with the rooted sixaxis app.
The PS3, I think, is a much better controller because of the separated DPad that becomes very very handy in retro gaming. Try playing SNES Mario World with a Moga or 360 and you'll hate it. I currently have 2 Ouya BT Controllers, a 360 Controller w/ Wireless Sync USB, and a PS3 controller.
I'm also curious if the PS4 was ever successfully paired to Android yet. The PS4 is similar to my Ouya Controller in a sense that it has the touchpad built in, which makes it very handy for navigating Android apps on a TV that aren't 100% gamepad compatible.
For gamepads to work, they need the specific .KO file that has the profiles. LG may not have included it. Custom roms should work out of the box though.
player911 said:
For gamepads to work, they need the specific .KO file that has the profiles. LG may not have included it. Custom roms should work out of the box though.
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Is that possible to include it ?
No answer from LG. I'm furious ! A so good phone and no way to play with a wired controller. I was thinking that the ability was included diectly inside android. Why LG did extract this ability ? Grrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoa I'm not saying they excluded it, but probably did... or goofed it up somehow.
Just do Bluetooth. Wired controllers don't work well anyway.
Are you sure it isn't working? You usually are required to download an app from the play store to really start utilizing the controllers for gamplay.
You can also just root and grab an app to restore the .ko file.
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
player911 said:
Are you sure it isn't working? You usually are required to download an app from the play store to really start utilizing the controllers for gamplay.
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I'm really sure of it. I use my controller on my acer A200 With a dedicated app. It's really good and it works really well.
player911 said:
You can also just root and grab an app to restore the .ko file.
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i really want to try this but how can I proceed ?
there is a lot of .ko files and I don't know the one to restore and how to do this.

[Q] OS and BT questions

Okay, the first question is aimed at Mad Catz Rich as from what I gathered he is a Mad Catz rep.
Can we expect an OS update to the MOJO? An update to at least 4.3 is important because of FSTrim which seriously affect performance in the long run.
The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
I'm interested in the MOJO but gaming is only third on my list. I want it more as a low power (HT)PC running android so I want to know if my logitech K810 (great for only using one keyboard when switching between the phone, tablet, and PC) would work on it and an actual mouse would be nice since it might take a while to get accustomed to using the mouse mode on the C.T.R.L. (plus I saw some comment somewhere where the person was concerned with the durability of the switch as it would get constant use and a mouse would avoid the need for constant switching).
I'm not sure whether to wait or not as game compatibility is only semi important for me for me (plus I have several humble bundle android games which might avoid the need for play store compatibility). But video playback is important as is the keyboard and mouse. If those work then despite the limited game selection it might be worth it for me.
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
ExtremeRyno said:
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
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Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
solsearch said:
Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
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Controller has built in blue tooth. Just flip the switch the the far left(blue tooth) and hold start button for 5 seconds. Controller will light up and seek nearby Bluetooth devices and sync.
solsearch said:
....The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
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I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
Mad Catz Nate said:
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
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When will you be updating MOJO to KitKat?
No news to share regarding this yet. Sorry. :C
gwaldo said:
I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
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Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
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Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
gwaldo said:
Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Mad Catz Rich said:
Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
gwaldo said:
My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication, such as Xbox 360), which even includes a Playstation 3 (although the button assignments will be all kinds of wrong).
Mad Catz Rich said:
Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication,...
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
scorpio16v said:
That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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It should be - the dongle conforms completely to the HID USB standard so it doesn't do anything funky or out of the ordinary. That said, I've noticed on our Nexus 7 that sometimes you have to unplug/replug the OTG cable a couple of times to get it to recognise correctly, depending on the OTG cable that you use. You can tell if you've got a good connection because the home button LED should illuminate blue rather than flashing.
So yes, provided you've got a good OTG cable and all other things being equal it will work on any device that supports USB game controllers.
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
scorpio16v said:
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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It's clear that it's not getting initialised through that OTG but can't explain why that is happening, I'm afraid. If it's working through your M.O.J.O. then we know it's okay and we don't do anything specific at all on M.O.J.O. to support it - it really is just a USB HID compliant dongle.
Strange, if I connect the bt dongle through a passive hub, it will be recognized by my G2 and N7.
It's not a really handy solution.
edit:
I bought another OTG cable and now, the dongle is recognized to my LG G2 without the HUB.
So, you're absolutely right. The C.T.R.L.R USB-dongle should work with any device. :good:

Sixaxis and PS2 controller

Hi everyone, this is my first post so please be patient.
I recently made a DIY USB OTG Y cable for my Nexus 4. I downloaded the Quanta Kernel and tried it out. It works pretty well with keyboards, mouses and USB drives I tested it with. The only problem is about my old PS2 controller, which is connected to an adapter and works perfectly with my PC. I downloaded the SIxaxis app from the play store and did everything to set it up correctly.
The problem is: when i connect the controller to the phone and try to pair it, an error "No controller found-connect it via USB" appears. I wonder if there is any way to solve this. I tried also with another app (it was something like BT/USB joypad) but it didn't found the controller. I have no clue on how to get it to work, anyone who can help?
Six axis is only for ps3
Nexus 4 minimalos 6.0.1
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How To Get PS3 Controller on G5 Plus

As the title says, I want to use my PS3 controller on my Moto G5 Plus, primarily for flying wifi drones, but also for gaming, etc.. I'd prefer connecting it via USB as opposed to bluetooth which could cause some interference with the drone's wifi signal, but I'll take what I can get at this point. I've got an OTG cable, but Sixaxis Enabler says that the phone doesn't have the firmware required for the PS3 controller. Presumably that means I'd have to root and install a custom ROM that has it baked in, or (hopefully) just the firmware, but I can't find mention of this anywhere on the forums. Has anyone else tried it? Would Sixaxis Controller (not enabler) install the necessary firmware after my phone's rooted? Does anyone know of ROMs that already have it baked in? Or is it just not doable? That would be disappointing because I love the value of the phone otherwise.
Just for the record, whilst I don't have a PS3 controller, I was never able to get any USB game controller working on my device. It's detected, but never worked. Might be a power issue, that it can't supply enough power. Bluetooth may be your best bet.
NZedPred said:
Just for the record, whilst I don't have a PS3 controller, I was never able to get any USB game controller working on my device. It's detected, but never worked. Might be a power issue, that it can't supply enough power. Bluetooth may be your best bet.
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I actually got a wired XBox360 controller to work by just plugging it in. My problem is that it's my only wired 360 one and the right stick only partially works, which could make flying the drone difficult.

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