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Hiya,
I'm copying my original post over from the Z3 Compact forum as there should be a fair amount of similarities between the two models regarding battery charging.
Hiya,
I' hoping this is the right section to post this in.
I don't have my Z3C yet, but I've been searching for information on charging speed, charging current etc. - and there is barely anything to be found. What seems to be consent: A full charge (0-100%) takes about three hours. But then, some people say an almost full charge (0-90%) takes much less, as charging current is greatly reduced for the last 10% to reduce stress on the battery. Sony itself also claims that a small charge (something like 0-10%) should be quite fast as well.
Then there's some speculation about QuickCharge 2.0 being used or not used, that you could use a Motorola 2.0A charger to charge it faster than with the provided 1.5A Sony charger etc., which also brings up the question which resistor values on the D+ and D- wires are necessary to toggle different charging currents. (Or I might be stupid and there's a standard for that by now, which is the same for all Qualcomm devices.)
To cut it short: I'd request those who have a Z3C to post some comments about their charging times, and at best even their charging currents. I used an app called BatteryMonitor on my Desire HD, I'm sure there's others around now that give the same information. If someone could try out different chargers and record charging current over time, maybe even with a pretty graph, it'd surely help all future discussions about chargers, docks, modifications, DIY charging issues etc.
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So, as the same goes for the Z3: If someone can record their charging times, charging current and charger used: Go ahead and post it. Bonus points for taking a look at magnetic charging.
dragonfet said:
Hiya,
I'm copying my original post over from the Z3 Compact forum as there should be a fair amount of similarities between the two models regarding battery charging.
So, as the same goes for the Z3: If someone can record their charging times, charging current and charger used: Go ahead and post it. Bonus points for taking a look at magnetic charging.
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A recent tear down confirms the Qualcomm chip for Quick Charge 2.0 support, so what we need now is for someone to get a compatible PSU that can 'talk' to the phone and then supply more power. That should see a huge improvement in charge time.
I am just trying to find a source for a compatible charger. So far I've only seen the Motorola Turbo Charger in the USA, and I'd be wary of buying anything made by a no-name brand at this point.
I have to assume the magnetic charging option won't be as fast, simply as there can't be a way for the PSU to know it is connected to a compatible device. Quick Charge 2.0 appears to require some sort of handshaking, or else the PSU will limit the power output, hence why I'd be wary of any chargers appearing on eBay or Amazon that claim to offer fast charging.
jonmorris said:
A recent tear down confirms the Qualcomm chip for Quick Charge 2.0 support, so what we need now is for someone to get a compatible PSU that can 'talk' to the phone and then supply more power. That should see a huge improvement in charge time.
I am just trying to find a source for a compatible charger. So far I've only seen the Motorola Turbo Charger in the USA, and I'd be wary of buying anything made by a no-name brand at this point.
I have to assume the magnetic charging option won't be as fast, simply as there can't be a way for the PSU to know it is connected to a compatible device. Quick Charge 2.0 appears to require some sort of handshaking, or else the PSU will limit the power output, hence why I'd be wary of any chargers appearing on eBay or Amazon that claim to offer fast charging.
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I have read excellent reviews for the Blackberry Premium Charger (the one with the yellow tip), super cheap on Amazon right now. Recommended by Android Central and others for its 2A charging capability. I have used it in the past from my HTC One X days and have re ordered for my Z3. Honestly, my Z3 is charging more than fast enough with the OEM supplied charger, which may be less powerful but more optimised than another OEM's charger. The one I'd trust most if I was forced to use one would be the above model of the BB charger.
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I have to assume the magnetic charging option won't be as fast, simply as there can't be a way for the PSU to know it is connected to a compatible device. Quick Charge 2.0 appears to require some sort of handshaking, or else the PSU will limit the power output, hence why I'd be wary of any chargers appearing on eBay or Amazon that claim to offer fast charging.
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more power can either be achieved through more voltage (that could potentially be harmful if the hardware is not compatible) or more current. More current is 100% save as the charging circuit just takes what it needs, independent of the (more potent) capabilities of the charger.
As Oppo showed with its find 7 just raising the current is a viable option which works. This is also a Snapdragon 801 device.
With the 1.5A original charger and cable, using Battery Monitor Widget shows the charging rate at around 900mA to 1000mA.
So I guess Z3 is restricting to max 1A charging?
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I have to assume the magnetic charging option won't be as fast, simply as there can't be a way for the PSU to know it is connected to a compatible device. Quick Charge 2.0 appears to require some sort of handshaking, or else the PSU will limit the power output, hence why I'd be wary of any chargers appearing on eBay or Amazon that claim to offer fast charging.
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Would it be possible that the PSU simply always limits the power output? For example, the phone might try to draw 1.5A, but the PSU doesn't support it and limits at 1.0A. Then magnetic charging could work with 1.5A or even 2.0A without the need for communication over the D+ / D- pins. (And attaching the magnetic port with a USB adapter to a PC or Laptop might cause the USB Port to shut down and trigger an overcurrent warning.)
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With the 1.5A original charger and cable, using Battery Monitor Widget shows the charging rate at around 900mA to 1000mA.
So I guess Z3 is restricting to max 1A charging?
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That would make sense. Though wonder where the extra 500 mA are going, it surely can't be the phone's standby. And given a typical maximum charging current of 1.0C (C = battery capacity), it would translate into 3.1A of charging current and therefore a 3.5A power supply.
Is this current constant from 1% to about 65%?
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With the 1.5A original charger and cable, using Battery Monitor Widget shows the charging rate at around 900mA to 1000mA.
So I guess Z3 is restricting to max 1A charging?
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If there are restrictions they are most likely within the Kernel and we may be able to change them in the future with custom Kernels
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That would make sense. Though wonder where the extra 500 mA are going, it surely can't be the phone's standby. And given a typical maximum charging current of 1.0C (C = battery capacity), it would translate into 3.1A of charging current and therefore a 3.5A power supply.
Is this current constant from 1% to about 65%?
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There is some fluctuation, but is roughly around 1A.
I have test 2 different charger
from "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" logs
with EP880 (1.5A max)
show ...................... 1.1A max
with 2 Amp charger
show .....................1.5A max
maxx228 said:
I have test 2 different charger
from "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" logs
with EP880 (1.5A max)
show ...................... 1.1A max
with 2 Amp charger
show .....................1.5A max
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Thanks for the results. I have my Z3 by now and recorded some as well.
From 0 to 68%, it charges with 1000-1100 mA, then it goes into CV (constant voltage) mode and stays there until 95%. Then the curent drops slightly. The rest of the charging curve is not usable, as it was the first full charge my handset had. And the last for now, as I have to send it back due to a gap in the frame and microphone issues.
I'll post a complete curve when I have the new one and did a few cycles. What's clear for now:
1. Charging current with the stock charger is around 1.1 A max.
2. The phone charges up to 95% with 0.5% per minute. (Stock Charger)
3. It drops to 0.125% between 95% und 100%, likely to put less strain on the battery.
It's nice to see that there's appearantly support for higher charging currents. Though we should keep in mind that a higher current also means more stress for the battery, especailly when the phone is used while charging (higher battery temperature as the CPU also adds heat).
my Z3 came with the charging dock dk48.. it is rated at 1.8a, charging is fast
I can't speak to the Z3 (yet), but my Z1s charges nearly twice as fast on the magnetic charging dock as it does through the USB connection. As a result, I can leave my screen on at full brightness while on the dock and still charge. I would *expect* similar behaviour from the Z3.
Original charger: about 1.0A - 1.1A. Result: 3h 50p - 4h for fully charged.
Magnetic charging dock or cable: 1.5-1.6A. Spend only 2h 45p
I'm tesing Xiaomi MI Power Banki 10400mAh. First test: 1.6A, much faster than original charger. A bit surprise!
http://www.mi.com/sg/mipowerbank/
Zanr Zij said:
Original charger: about 1.0A - 1.1A. Result: 3h 50p - 4h for fully charged.
Magnetic charging dock or cable: 1.5-1.6A. Spend only 2h 45p
I'm tesing Xiaomi MI Power Banki 10400mAh. First test: 1.6A, much faster than original charger. A bit surprise!
http://www.mi.com/sg/mipowerbank/
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The original charger is rated 1.5A, actual charging on Z3 is 1.0A.
Xiaomi is rated 2.1A, so I guess is reasonable to expect 1.5A actual charging from it.
For your magnetic charging dock or cable, are you using the original charger?
With the original charger, I'm getting the same result with or without dock.
Zanr Zij said:
Original charger: about 1.0A - 1.1A. Result: 3h 50p - 4h for fully charged.
Magnetic charging dock or cable: 1.5-1.6A. Spend only 2h 45p
I'm tesing Xiaomi MI Power Banki 10400mAh. First test: 1.6A, much faster than original charger. A bit surprise!
http://www.mi.com/sg/mipowerbank/
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where did you get the magnetic charging cable?
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The original charger is rated 1.5A, actual charging on Z3 is 1.0A.
Xiaomi is rated 2.1A, so I guess is reasonable to expect 1.5A actual charging from it.
For your magnetic charging dock or cable, are you using the original charger?
With the original charger, I'm getting the same result with or without dock.
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With Mi Power Bank, I used micro USB cable, not magnetic.
I'm using Samsung Note 3 2.0A charger. Through micro USB port, I got lower current, about 1.0-1.2A but with magnetic cable 1.5-1.6A.
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Shudder123 said:
where did you get the magnetic charging cable?
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Included in my Z3 retail box
Zanr Zij said:
With Mi Power Bank, I used micro USB cable, not magnetic.
I'm using Samsung Note 3 2.0A charger. Through micro USB port, I got lower current, about 1.0-1.2A but with magnetic cable 1.5-1.6A.
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Included in my Z3 retail box
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you mean the USB cable?
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you mean the USB cable?
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My Z3 Dual retail box has 2 cables: usb and magnetic
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My Z3 Dual retail box has 2 cables: usb and magnetic
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where did you get yours from? mine only came with a USB cable
I have a z3 dual .. I did not notice the second cable in the box. I have to check again
It appears like Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charge is in fact an equivalent of Quick Charge 1.0 but not Quick Charge 2.0.
Samsung's adapter outputs either 5V or 9V:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00071944/98120/SM-N910PZKESPR
Quick Charge 2.0 outputs 5V, 9V and 12V. It is confirmed by this photo of Motorola's Turbo Charger as well as exemplary page of some OEM quick charge 2.0 adapter:
http://auonlineshop.kddi.com/disp/CSfLastGoodsPage_001.jsp?GOODS_NO=4528&dispNo=001001002
Just a guess but I expect your need a bigger battery, like that in a tablet, to handle charging at 12 volts. As it is, I'm blown away by how fast this phone charges on the adaptive charger. Just wish I could get one for the car.
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As it is, I'm blown away by how fast this phone charges on the adaptive charger. Just wish I could get one for the car.
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I couldn't agree more :highfive:
Yep, its a beast at charging, according to PhoneArena it remains the fastest charging phone around, so its Adaptive Fast Charging is doing an incredible job!
My concern would be what it does to battery life..can't help but think the lifespan of the battery will take a hit using fast charging all the time.
rcobourn said:
Just wish I could get one for the car.
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You could always buy a car power inverter and use the fast charging adapter with that.
railshot said:
You could always buy a car power inverter and use the fast charging adapter with that.
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My car has an a/c outlet; the real problem is just finding stock on the adaptive charger. Even then, don't much want a cord running to outlet in back seat. As for using an inverter.. D/C ports are in awkward places to use one in Explorer. Will make due until auto version is available.
Guys does anyone know if the below accessory is real?
Samsung Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 USB Car Charger [Part No: ECA-P20CWE]
Not sure if this is real as this is the only website that stocks this 'Samsung branded' charger. A google search shows similar items on Alibaba so I'm guessing this is fake.
Anyway I am going to buy this:
rcobourn said:
Just a guess but I expect your need a bigger battery, like that in a tablet, to handle charging at 12 volts. As it is, I'm blown away by how fast this phone charges on the adaptive charger. Just wish I could get one for the car.
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What do you mean you wish you could get one for your car? There are plenty of compatible models available for your car. This one has 1 quick/fast charge port and 3 regular 5v 2.4amp ports.
http://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-C...d=1428955440&sr=1-5&keywords=quick+charge+2.0
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What do you mean you wish you could get one for your car? There are plenty of compatible models available for your car. This one has 1 quick/fast charge port and 3 regular 5v 2.4amp ports.
http://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-C...d=1428955440&sr=1-5&keywords=quick+charge+2.0
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You are quoting a post from last October. Things have changed.
2.0 works the same?
I am planning a 900 mile hike and need to minimize weight since I will be bringing filming gear. I have purchased a light weight plug strip with Quick Charge 2.0 USB ports. Will this work the same as the Adaptive Fast charger for my Note Edge? Or will I still need to bring the little white USB/AC plug thingy?
Thanks!
Guess I'll find out when the plug strip arrives.
light weight plug strip (http://www.amazon.com/BESTEK-2-Outl...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)
Power Device: (http://www.amazon.com/Generator-Eme...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00)
lustyffh said:
It appears like Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charge is in fact an equivalent of Quick Charge 1.0 but not Quick Charge 2.0.
Samsung's adapter outputs either 5V or 9V:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00071944/98120/SM-N910PZKESPR
Quick Charge 2.0 outputs 5V, 9V and 12V. It is confirmed by this photo of Motorola's Turbo Charger as well as exemplary page of some OEM quick charge 2.0 adapter:
http://auonlineshop.kddi.com/disp/CSfLastGoodsPage_001.jsp?GOODS_NO=4528&dispNo=001001002
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I tried the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 quick charger on my ZE550KL 2GB ram model. The starting battery percent was 18% and after about half an hour the battery was still at 42%. I read on Qualcomm's website that SD410 supports quick charging 2.0. But the results speak otherwise. Could it be the software restricting quick charge?
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I tried the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 quick charger on my ZE550KL 2GB ram model. The starting battery percent was 18% and after about half an hour the battery was still at 42%. I read on Qualcomm's website that SD410 supports quick charging 2.0. But the results speak otherwise. Could it be the software restricting quick charge?
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I thought that only the SD 615 version of the ZE550KL was quick charge compatible.
The 410 is also quick charge compliant as well. Check this
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The 410 is also quick charge compliant as well. Check this
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The processor supports quick charge, but as far as I know, it's not implemented in the phone.
Yes I tried it too recently and the best rate at which phone charging was 1.1A (I used 2.1A charger, it took 3 hrs to charge from 10% to 100%)
Either we should all ask ASUS to enable fast charging in coming updates or wait for someone to build custom kernel that supports fast charging.
if it's any consolation, the moto g3 also doesn't supports quick charging. It also has SD 410. 3 hours is the time is takes for me to charge it to full with the provided OEM charger as well.
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if it's any consolation, the moto g3 also doesn't supports quick charging. It also has SD 410. 3 hours is the time is takes for me to charge it to full with the provided OEM charger as well.
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I had Moto G 2015 for couple of weeks. Didn't really use wall charger enough, I used USB charging through PC most of the times so can't really say about charging time.
I found some references online they claimed Moto g3 does charge faster, here is one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/charge-time-t3171725
As far as the laser is concerned, has anyone raised this issue with them on forums?
can't bear slow charging :crying:
It more than likely has to do with the USB configuration so I doubt any software update will enable that, but to be fair it could be a software based limitation. The USB component needs to allow for the high throughput though.
I personally don't feel too negative about the charge time because I came from an iPhone 5S that doesn't have quickcharging. I am sure for others it is like watching paint dry though.
What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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Have you tested this? Devices will only pull what they are able from a charger so if it was designed to drawl up to 1.35A then even with a 2A charger it will only drawl 1.35A.
dexter20082001 said:
Have you tested this? Devices will only pull what they are able from a charger so if it was designed to drawl up to 1.35A then even with a 2A charger it will only drawl 1.35A.
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I think you are right on this. I just tested and even with a 2A charger it takes more than 3 hours to charge the phone.
Anyone tried using qualcomm 2.0 certified quick chargers?
From this zentalk link, looks like my suspicion was correct. Event though SD 410 supports quickcharge, Asus limited the circuits etc. to not take 2A. Sad!
At least it charges faster on super saving mode.
35% in 60 mins on Normal mode
41% in 60 mins on super saving mode
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What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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My ZE601KL comes with a 2A charger in the box. I would say it charges quick when battery is real low and slows down when it close to 80% to complete the rest of the charging cycle.
hkwildboy said:
My ZE601KL comes with a 2A charger in the box. I would say it charges quick when battery is real low and slows down when it close to 80% to complete the rest of the charging cycle.
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Quick charge is supposed to charge from 0 to 60% in 30 minutes then slow to normal speed.
heywheelie said:
I thought that only the SD 615 version of the ZE550KL was quick charge compatible.
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You sure 615 version support quick charge?
i can use qc2.0 on ZE550KL(Z00LD) Snapdragon 615 so enjoy
BulldozerAMD said:
i can use qc2.0 on ZE550KL(Z00LD) Snapdragon 615 so enjoy
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Are you sure that quick charge works?
What kernel are you using?
Can i use a quallacom quick charge charger rated at [email protected] (i guess what turbo power gives is 9v at 1.67A)
P.s both give charging current of nearly 2500ma in ampere app,my original moto charger is not wrking and i am out of warranty
Yes I use my samsung charger (9v 2amp) on my G4 all the time shows as turbo charger when plugged in.
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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Again, I don't understand what you mean. The SD625 support Quick Charge 3.0, but the charger supplied with the device is a QC 2.0 compliant adapter that is labeled "TurboPower", at least in the US. If I connect a Samsung GS7 to the Moto charger, it shows Fast Charging as well.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand what are you trying to say here.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
McKellen said:
But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
acejavelin said:
According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
McKellen said:
I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
McKellen said:
Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
Karlinski said:
Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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I'm just asking coz QC 2.0 charger is cheaper then QC 3.0 charger
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
acejavelin said:
Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
McKellen said:
I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
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That is my charger at work... If you have a QC 2.0 charger, don't bother getting a new one. If you are buying one, get a 3.0 one.
I know this thread is a little dated and I'm a late comer to this thread, but I just bought the g5 plus on a black friday deal at best buy $300 down to $225, US xt1678 variant, 64gb storage and 4gb ram, I jsut could not resist it for that price, and....it was actually cheaper than the 32gb storage 2gb ram variant which was listed at $229
Anyways on to my question, this is for acejavelin. You said your qc 2.0 worked and came up as showing turbo charging (not just normal charging)? I hope I am reading this correctly. Also is this one of those Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, that's what I was looking at buying for my car and was curious if it worked. Just checking to make sure I'm reading the thread correctly.
I recently just bought a 2.1 fast charge lighter plugin, but guess what, it doesn't turbocharge only normal charge. I tried with the cord that came with the phone, as well as 2 other cords and still only normal charge for each one.
Now with my wall charger (the provided turbocharger that came with the g5 plus) in the house, all 3 cords work and show as turbocharge as long as I am using the provided moto turbo charge wall charger.
I also was curious and tried an old samsung charger that I used on I think it was the s4, last samsung I owned lol. With my nexus 5x which has USB-C worked wonderfully with it, but sadly turbo charge does not work so well with the samsung wall charger, because it does not show as turbo charge, but only normal charge on the g5 plus.
Hello Guys,
Everyone know that is not good to our phones battery use other chargers that is not from Samsung. So, my question is: is safe to use power bank ? If yes, wich one is recomended for our phone ?
Sorry my bad english :cyclops:
I have the ravpower 26800mah usb-c version. Power banks work just fine with my s8. I've used multiple ones also.
Using this powerbank, the S8 charger fast ? And the battery life is good charging with powerbank ?
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Using this powerbank, the S8 charger fast ? And the battery life is good charging with powerbank ?
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I use a couple power banks I have. One being a 12,000 mah battery on a flashlight I have.But it only charges at regular 5 volt speeds...
I use a Choetech 6 ports usb hub 50 watts total and it charges = to or better than samsungs power blocks
In the end it depends on the output capacities of the charger source and capabilities of the Usb cable As long as its advertised power out put is that or greater than Samsungs fast charge should work just fine
If I use any charger that isn't from Samsung, the phone will tell me, but I use the Anker powerCore 20100mAh, works really well, chargers my phone like a normal charger, but lately I've been having trouble charging it at a good speed(with 30% it gives me 4hours to fully charge), only using the power bank gives me this problem, and only my phone. I've tried talking with the support of both companies, they blame the other. Still turning it off chargers it extremely fast.
https://www.anker.com/store/powercore-20100/A1271012