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Bash Script For Unrooting Your Transformer

I just had to unroot my transformer so I could RMA it (it didn't want to charge anymore) and I noticed that a lot of the actions could be scripted so it would be quicker and people couldn't screw the process up since it's automated.
I based my script off of [GUIDE] Official [unroot] guide here
Code:
#!/bin/bash
echo "Script by Brando56894 from XDA Developers"
directory=`pwd`
echo "Checking for necessary files...."
if [[ -e blob && EP101_SDUPDATE.zip ]]
then
echo "The necessary files are present, continuing process"
else
echo "One or more of the necessary files is missing."
echo "Would you like me to get the files for you? (y or n)"
read answer
if [[ $answer == 'y' ]]
then
wget http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF101/UpdateLauncher_US_epad_user_8239.zip
unzip -n UpdateLauncher_US_epad_user_8239.zip
cd ASUS/Update
unzip US_epad-user-8.2.3.9.zip
mv blob $directory
mv US_epad-user-8.2.3.9.zip $directory/EP101_SDUPDATE.zip
else
read -p "Please acquire the needed files. Press enter to exit"
exit
fi
fi
echo
adb devices
echo
read -p "If device is listed, press enter to continue unrooting"
adb push blob /data/local/
adb push EP101_SDUPDATE.zip /Removable/MicroSD/
adb shell dd if=/data/local/blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
adb reboot recovery
echo "It should now be flashing the stock update, unrooting the TF in the process"
echo
read -p "Press enter to exit"
exit

This is for 3.2 ?

It worked for me on 3.2 but I believe it should work for any version since it wipes everything out by reflashing the blob via nvflash. Make sure you have everything backed up to your sdcard because it wipes everything, including the internal memory.

This would also work if you were, for example, on 3.2 and wanted to go back to 3.1, wouldn't it?
Edit. Do you have the filenames to be downloaded for the WW version?

[Q] Understanding GladRoot Root script for 1.26-1.83

I was looking at the code for GladRoot (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060) and I had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
First of all, does anyone have the code for psneuter?
Secondly, if the goal of rooting is to Superuser.apk, why is temporary root access necessary? I've never used adb before this, but isn't the point that developers can easily do things like install applications using it? The superuser apk might grant super user access after it's installed, but before that it's just like any other apk.
I'd appreciate it if someone could answer these questions. Thanks.

Anyone want to help me out? Doesn't seem like too hard of a question...

Id take a look at What is root access on google. It sounds like you have no idea about the basics. There is a ton of info for beginners even on this site. If I misunderstood you I apologize but your question would only leave me to believe you need to learn the basics. Good luck
Sent using the phone with the biggest balls....Atrix 4G

Gladroot doesn't give temporary root access either unless it changed.
Sent using the phone with the biggest balls....Atrix 4G

dupreeks said:
Id take a look at What is root access on google. It sounds like you have no idea about the basics. There is a ton of info for beginners even on this site. If I misunderstood you I apologize but your question would only leave me to believe you need to learn the basics. Good luck
Sent using the phone with the biggest balls....Atrix 4G
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Well I'm definitely a beginner, but not that beginner. I'll show you what I'm talking about:
Code:
rem If we do, since we need to run several commands as root, use psneuter to
rem temporarily root the device.
echo.
echo Obtaining temporary root access...
%~dp0adb push %~dp0bin\psneuter /tmp/psneuter > NUL 2>&1
if not errorlevel 0 set message=Unable to send psneuter. && goto abort
set retval=
for /f "tokens=*" %%l in ('%~dp0adb.exe shell "/bin/chmod 6755 /tmp/psneuter > /dev/null 2>&1 && echo PASS"') do set retval=%%l
if "%retval%" neq "PASS" set message=Unable to chmod psneuter. && goto abort
set retval=
for /f "tokens=*" %%l in ('%~dp0adb.exe shell "/tmp/psneuter > /dev/null 2>&1"') do set retval=%%l
if "%retval%" neq "" set message=Unable to execute psneuter. && goto abort
echo.
echo Waiting for root access to kick in...
timeout /t 5 /nobreak > NUL 2>&1
So what I said was correct. GladRoot definitely get's temp root access. After it does that, it changes some settings and installs superuser.apk:
Code:
rem Remount the /system read/write.
echo.
echo Mounting /system as read/write...
%~dp0adb.exe shell mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /system > NUL 2>&1
rem Install sqlite3 for additional system changes required later in the script.
rem This is silent because it shouldn't interfere with anything even if it's
rem not used.
%~dp0adb.exe push %~dp0bin\sqlite3 /system/bin > NUL 2>&1
%~dp0adb.exe shell chmod 6755 /system/bin/sqlite3 > NUL 2>&1
echo.
echo Ready to root.
echo.
pause
rem Let's root!
rem Check for duplicate busybox installation and remove it.
echo.
echo Cleaning up SuperOneClick mess...
%~dp0adb.exe shell "find /system/xbin -type l | xargs rm" > NUL 2>&1
%~dp0adb.exe shell rm /system/xbin/busybox > NUL 2>&1
rem Copy su over and set permissions for use.
echo.
echo Rooting your device ...
%~dp0adb.exe push %~dp0bin\su /system/bin > NUL 2>&1
%~dp0adb.exe shell chmod 6755 /system/bin/su > NUL 2>&1
rem Install the Superuser app for allowing other apps root access.
echo.
echo Installing Superuser app...
%~dp0adb.exe install -r %~dp0bin\Superuser.apk > NUL 2>&1
echo.
echo Root complete.
echo.
So again my question is why do you need temp root access to install superuser.apk?

Temp root access is needed because superuser is installed in system/apps in the system partition. Without root a user does not have read write permissions in the system partition. This means a user cannot uninstall apps or install apps with out root permission. Temp access allows a script or person to modify the system partition, in this case it gives apps access to permanent root. The source code for psneuter is here.

on21st said:
Temp root access is needed because superuser is installed in system/apps in the system partition. Without root a user does not have read write permissions in the system partition. This means a user cannot uninstall apps or install apps with out root permission. Temp access allows a script or person to modify the system partition, in this case it gives apps access to permanent root. The source code for psneuter is here.
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Yeah that pretty much sums it up. Gladroot was and still is my method of root. I wish I could unlock the boot loader with my current 1.8.3 setup I have and not lose anything. If anyone has a solution I would really appreciate it. I like my phone how it is but want to be able to make nand backups basically. I am not huge on CM7 and it doesn't seem like there are many stable roms for the Atrix right now.

You can there should be a pudding for 1.8.3. I remember using it. It wipes data and allows you to unlock the boot loader if you choose. HERE
Just choose the correct sbf to download and then follow instructions in thread.

[TUTORIAL]How to manual root official 2.3

I always have problems to root official 2.3 with automatic ways, and found that this caused from some adb miscommunication.
So this is how to do it manual, in case automatic ways stacked.
First install adb-sdk and add its path to system variables, so to don't have to go to adb' s path before you can run it.
Then download doomlord' s rooting tool and extract it to drive C:\DoomLordRoot.v3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=784296&stc=1&d=1321435888
Preparation steps on device:
1) Dial: *#*#2846579#*#*
2) Go to projectmenu > background settings > log settings > log switch > set Log on
3) Reboot Phone
4) Switch USB Debugging ON
5) uncheck fast boot from settings -> applications
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Open windows command prompt window and do the above:
Code:
adb push c:\DoomLordRoot.v3\files\zergRush /data/local/tmp/
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]adb shell[/COLOR]
chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/zergRush
./data/local/tmp/zergRush
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]Hit CTRL+C to exit from adb shell[/COLOR]
adb push c:\DoomLordRoot.v3\files\busybox /data/local/tmp/
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]adb shell[/COLOR]
su
chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/busybox
/data/local/tmp/busybox mount -o remount,rw /system
dd if=/data/local/tmp/busybox of=/system/xbin/busybox
chown root.shell /system/xbin/busybox
chmod 04755 /system/xbin/busybox
/system/xbin/busybox --install -s /system/xbin
rm -r /data/local/tmp/busybox
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]Hit CTRL+C to exit again from adb shell[/COLOR]
adb push c:\DoomLordRoot.v3\files\su /system/bin/su
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]adb shell[/COLOR]
su
chown root.shell /system/bin/su
chmod 06755 /system/bin/su
rm /system/xbin/su
ln -s /system/bin/su /system/xbin/su
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]Hit CTRL+C to exit once more from adb shell[/COLOR]
adb push c:\DoomLordRoot.v3\files\Superuser.apk /system/app/
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]adb shell[/COLOR]
su
cd /data/local/tmp/
rm *
reboot
This is basic what the runme.bat file does, just some paths corrected to point to the right locations.

I have the latest official gingerbread (I think v3) and have been trying to root with no luck. I've gone through the steps here but when try to get root access (su), it gives me permission denied...
Any ideas?

Oneclickroot v2. 2 did the work for me or something like this
Sent from my U8800

SS said:
I have the latest official gingerbread (I think v3) and have been trying to root with no luck. I've gone through the steps here but when try to get root access (su), it gives me permission denied...
Any ideas?
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This probably means that rooting failed.
What messages you get when you run zergrush?

dancer_69 said:
This probably means that rooting failed.
What messages you get when you run zergrush?
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I got messages for sending 149, then 189 zerglings, then messages about not being able to mount, find or write to directories.
It seems like it wasn't able to get root access to be able to run its process.
In any case, I just downgraded to the previous release and then used ZergRush, which worked perfectly

don't work.

try this, it works for my B528 rom!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23565074&postcount=7

Need nudge in right direction. Un-rooting Droid X

Guys, need a nudge in right direction.
EDIT: I am running stock ROM
I have a rooted DroidX. Will be getting RAZR MAXX next month and want to sell my DX. So i want to take it back to stock to sell.
I have searched but couldn't find anything close to my situation.
Any ideas would be appreciated or can I just do a factory reset?
Here are the specifics.......
Had DX running .605.
I rooted using this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxks-o2cd7E&feature=plcp
This is the version of the script I used.. I still have the script but there is not an "unroot" option in it.
Code:
echo ***************************************************************************
echo * *
echo * DROID 3 Easy Root script v7 *
echo * *
echo ***************************************************************************
echo *
I can post entire code if needed.
Here is where I am running into my specific problem.
When .621 OTA update was coming down, I installed OTA rootkeeper.
I took the OTA update and was able to retain root and be on .621
Only other mods done were supercharger (which I reversed to stock) and a mod to get wifi hotspot going.
The hotspot mod I did was a complicated one. Downloaded some program from Motorola and went in and edited some values in a database in the phone.
Where can I go to figure out how to reverse this back to stock so I can sell it in good faith?
Unfortunately I was extremely new to all of this when I rooted it and didn't think about going back.
I have a full Titanium Backup of the system after root and before .621 update.
Heck, here is the entire rooting code if it helps.
Code:
@echo off
cls
adb kill-server > NUL
COLOR B0
TITLE DROID 3 Easy Root Script
cls
echo ***************************************************************************
echo * *
echo * DROID 3 Easy Root script v7 *
echo * *
echo ***************************************************************************
echo *
echo * Please make sure you meet these pre-requisites:
echo *
echo * (a) install the correct driver
echo * (b) turn on USB debugging (on your phone under Settings -^> Applications)
echo * (c) plug in your phone and set your USB mode to 'charging only'
echo *
echo * Note: your phone will reboot twice during this procedure. This is normal.
echo *
echo * READY TO ROOT YOUR DROID 3 WHEN YOU ARE!
echo *
COLOR E0
pause
echo *
echo * Waiting for your phone to be connected...
echo *
adb wait-for-device > NUL
COLOR B0
echo * Running exploit [part 1 of 3]...
adb kill-server > NUL
adb shell rm /data/local/12m.bak > NUL
adb shell mv /data/local/12m /data/local/12m.bak > NUL
adb shell ln -s /data /data/local/12m
adb reboot
echo *
echo * Rebooting the phone... please wait.
adb kill-server > NUL
COLOR E0
adb wait-for-device > NUL
adb wait-for-device > NUL
COLOR B0
echo *
echo * Running exploit [part 2 of 3]...
adb shell rm /data/local/12m
adb shell mv /data/local/12m.bak /data/local/12m
adb shell rm /data/local.prop.bak > NUL
adb shell mv /data/local.prop /data/local.prop.bak
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_netmon_usb=0" ^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_netmon_ih=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_res_core=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_res_panic=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_adb=1" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_all_core=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_efem=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_bp_log=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_ap_mot_log=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb shell echo "ro.sys.atvc_allow_gki_log=0" ^>^> /data/local.prop
adb reboot
echo *
echo * Rebooting the phone... please wait.
adb kill-server > NUL
COLOR E0
adb wait-for-device > NUL
adb wait-for-device > NUL
COLOR B0
echo *
echo * Running exploit [part 3 of 3]...
adb remount
adb push busybox /system/xbin/busybox
adb push su /system/xbin/su
adb push Superuser.apk /system/app/Superuser.apk
adb shell chmod 4755 /system/xbin/su
adb shell chmod 755 /system/xbin/busybox
adb shell chown system.system /data
echo *
echo * ALL DONE! YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE ROOTED!
echo *
echo ******************************************************************************
echo.
echo You may now close this window...
echo.
COLOR A0
adb kill-server > NUL
pause
TITLE Command Prompt
COLOR 07

Just simply try a factory reset
Sent from my shiny new white LOCKED SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

If that didn't work just sbf back to stock. That will work for sure and gives the buyer the new phone experience
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

dbett4 said:
Just simply try a factory reset
Sent from my shiny new white LOCKED SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
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Lol didnt mean to thank you but oh well...
Any ways lol to OP you can factory reset a hundred times and you still won't remove root.
Why remove root anyways you'll sell the phone faster and save someone the hassle of rooting again
As for the regs who don't know that root is... meh. Again won't hurt the phone in any way.
You will have to sbf back to what ever firmware you want. Afaik it's the only way to remove root. I'm not experienced enough for manual removal, and sbf is so simple and hassle free...when done right.
Easy to f-up if not lol.
Gl
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

I just checked ebay completed autions. Rooted phones do sell fast and are selling for more!! Great. Thanks for the tip.
If I do a factory reset, then it will go back to stock except it will leave root?? The main thing I was worried about was with the OTA upgrade.
If all else fails I will sbf with version .621 (afaik you can't go back further once you have .621 OTA) then re-root.

I did the same I had a deal and bought two DROIDX and rooted both then upgraded but kept root same way you did but my brother got a new phone so I went to market and downloaded an app called ginger unroot and bam full unroot. I even downloaded su and a root checker but no root. Hope this helps
Sent from my DROIDX using xda premium

Instead of SBF'ing I just did a factory reset. And it did in fact keep root.
Thanks guys.

Here's what ya do:
Factory reset
You will still have root.
Inform prospective buyer about rootkeeper.
Instruct them exactly what to do (don't make this part of your auction, just offer the advice after the sale;
make sure they know:
ota update =by by root)
Once buyer sets up their Google act and installs rootkeeper buyr can now ota with out worries of loosing root.
I just sold my dx and did this exact same thing.
Buyer was more than happy.
Hope that helps and glws
Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2

How much did you get for it?
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda app-developers app

[ROOT] <Generic topic about verified root exploit>

Sparkym3 released an automated tool for this, please see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31730134&postcount=1
Please DO NOT donate to nor credit me me for this matter, this was not my find, we just tried an existing exploit on the device.
Dear bloggers, source this when copying:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/17/amazon-kindle-fire-hd-7-already-rooted-heres-how-to-do-it/
Amazon failed to fix the bug sparkym3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4411543) found in ICS, whoops.
http://downloads.noshufou.netdna-cdn.com/superuser/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
unzip the zip, get su from /system/bin/ and Superuser.apk from /system/app/ and put them in your current directory
adb shell
rm -r /data/local/tmp
ln -s /data/ /data/local/tmp
exit
adb reboot
adb shell
echo 'ro.kernel.qemu=1' > /data/local.prop
exit
adb reboot
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /system
adb push su /system/xbin/su
adb shell
chown 0.0 /system/xbin/su
chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
rm /data/local.prop
exit
adb reboot
adb install Superuser.apk

SWEET!
jcase said:
Please DO NOT donate to nor credit me me for this matter, this was not my find, we just tried an existing exploit on the device.
Dear bloggers, source this when copying:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/17/amazon-kindle-fire-hd-7-already-rooted-heres-how-to-do-it/
Amazon failed to fix the bug sparkym3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4411543) found in ICS, whoops.
http://downloads.noshufou.netdna-cdn.com/superuser/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
unzip the zip, get su from /system/bin/ and Superuser.apk from /system/app/ and put them in your current directory
adb shell
rm /data/local/tmp
ln -s /data/ /data/local/tmp
exit
adb reboot
adb shell
echo 'ro.kernel.qemu=1' > /data/local.prop
exit
adb reboot
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /system
adb push su /system/xbin/su
adb shell
chown 0.0 /system/xbin/su
chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
rm /data/local.prop
exit
adb reboot
adb install Superuser.apk
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This is really exciting news! Been hoping for some good news on this front! Just got my new Fire over the weekend. Looking forward to getting the play store working.
Was there a way with the old fires to block Amazon's automatic updates?

As always thanks for your work man!!

ThaPirato said:
As always thanks for your work man!!
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Not my work, thank sparkym3. We just went testing older exploits before releasing a new one, and this worked.

Jcase , you love these kindles don't you. Thanks for helping us out
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

how do i get my kindle to be recognized when i type "adb shell" in the command line? I enabled adb in the security settings

stu5797 said:
how do i get my kindle to be recognized when i type "adb shell" in the command line? I enabled adb in the security settings
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If you have the SDK installed and you get "error: device not found" you need to do the following steps. This worked for me.
Navigate to the [your user name]/.android folder. It is under C:\Users
Edit the adb_usb.ini file, adding the following line of code at the end:
0×1949
Close and save that file.
Now find the folder where your SDK is installed, and open the usb_driver folder. In that folder, find the file android_winusb.inf and add the following code to both the [Google.NTx86] and [Google.NTamd64] sections:
;Kindle Fire
%SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_1949&PID_0006
%CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_1949&PID_0006&MI_01
Reboot and then run adb shell again. It should recognize your device.

Jcase is the android locksmith. Just about every device I have seen he has atleast helped unlock. Now if a working recovery can get made, I can see my self getting one of these puppies down the road.
sent from my Nokia 5110 using t9

jcase said:
Please DO NOT donate to nor credit me me for this matter, this was not my find, we just tried an existing exploit on the device.
Dear bloggers, source this when copying:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/17/amazon-kindle-fire-hd-7-already-rooted-heres-how-to-do-it/
Amazon failed to fix the bug sparkym3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4411543) found in ICS, whoops.
http://downloads.noshufou.netdna-cdn.com/superuser/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
unzip the zip, get su from /system/bin/ and Superuser.apk from /system/app/ and put them in your current directory
adb shell
rm /data/local/tmp
ln -s /data/ /data/local/tmp
exit
adb reboot
adb shell
echo 'ro.kernel.qemu=1' > /data/local.prop
exit
adb reboot
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /system
adb push su /system/xbin/su
adb shell
chown 0.0 /system/xbin/su
chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
rm /data/local.prop
exit
adb reboot
adb install Superuser.apk
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Thanks for your sharing!
Thanks Cameron Summerson!

Awesome work guys, especially for jcase and sparkym3...

Qemu automated root problem
Kindle Fire HD 7.2.1 using the Qemu auto - thing keeps stalling at step 3 "looking for access"
The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
It's leaving me an unstable device that requires a factory reset to operate. Any insight would be appreciated.

BELASCO said:
Kindle Fire HD 7.2.1 using the Qemu auto - thing keeps stalling at step 3 "looking for access"
The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
It's leaving me an unstable device that requires a factory reset to operate. Any insight would be appreciated.
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Mine did the same, simply ignore it..
CTRL c
to stop
restart the script and start with step 4 --> it will stall again but will work..
Scsi

scs1man said:
Mine did the same, simply ignore it..
CTRL c
to stop
restart the script and start with step 4 --> it will stall again but will work..
Scsi
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Happily rooted and hunting through Gplay.

Root works great with KFHD7 (firmware 7.2.1)

someonhe has sucessfuly rooted a 7.2.2 version?

7.2.2
So my system updated to 7.2.2 - darn!
So what's the current status...
- Google Chrome, Play store and frameworks still present - and working.
- ES Explorer is not able to enable Root Explorer, so root obviously shorted.
- The Superuser app remains, but is useless without the 'su' file.
- GoLauncher was completely removed.
- The Qemu exploit is not working. Gives error on cmd line: echo 'ro.kernel.qemu=1' > /data/local.prop
Hope everyone still on 7.2.1 puts up their firewalls. And :angel: praying that our developer legends work something out on what Amazon did to lock 7.2.2.

Also, an additional warning about the 7.2.2 update... I don't know if this happened to anyone else, but I had the Swype Beta installed on my rooted KFHD. The new update also came with Swype, and for some reason, instead of overwriting mine, there's this bizarre conflict with the two. When attempting to type, Swype tells me have an incorrect license, and refuses to work and tells me to redownload the beta. On top of that, attempts at removal or reinstallation are impossible since I no longer have root (Swype is in the system/apps directory).
Just about everything else works (minus apps needing root), including Nova Launcher Prime. I still can't type though. Yay Amazon.

I had Swype too, but I used nook tools to choose the Amazon keyboard and it works fine.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2

VbSin said:
So my system updated to 7.2.2 - darn!
- GoLauncher was completely removed.
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That's interesting. I had ADWLauncher before the update and it stayed. I've lost my desktop layout, I can't bind it to the home button and I can't add widgets but otherwise it works OK.

No root yet for 7.2.2
maxx1985 said:
someonhe has sucessfuly rooted a 7.2.2 version?
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I tried and tried, but no success. With the automatic procedure I get always the same error ( screenshot attached) and it sends me to NOROOT-
Going to try the cmd one, let's hope!