I have just recently started my journey into rooting, I've been in research mode for about a week trying to learn as much as I can but it's SO overwhelming trying to keep up with all the old and new techniques - trying to find out what is the best method to use.
Before discovering this place I asked a few questions on reddit and was able to get a cheat sheet on all the terms one needs for rooting:
https://www.reddit.com/r/androidroo...ingroot_considered_true_rooting_where_is_the/
and while browsing Xda I found this short guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/how-to-root-htc-one-m8-android-6-0-t3420748
However both of theses sets of instructions miss out a few starting points.
I've watched a few videos on how to root a htc but they've all been made around the time of the phones release, and as we all know each year things get bigger and better in computing, so new techniques might have arrived. So I wanted to ask here what are the full sets of instructions to root a htc one m8 in 2016, starting from watch software to use to back up your phone, how to unlock the bootloader, etc... and using whatever new rooms and kernels people have been using and would recommend.
My aim is, with your help, to make this post a place beginners can go to learn how to do their first root. thankyou in advance.
My phone:
service provider: Orange/EE (UK)
Android: 6.0 (Marshmallow I think)
HTC sense version: 7.0
Sofware number: 6.12.61.4
I've just rooted my phone unlocking the bootloader yesterday. I haven't gone S-off yet.
I'm coming from Samsung phones so things are a little different for me too. I followed this guide which covers everything you can and will need to gain full root on an m8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
to get root apps to have all the ability they have elsewhere you need to cover 3 steps
1) unlock the bootloader, which will make some partitions accessible, but writing to the system partition is still blocked apart from via custom recovery (the phone reboots when you try to write into the system partition without "full root").
2) root. fairly obvious what that is.
3) gain S-off, which makes system partition accessible outside of the custom recovery. the phone can be enjoyed the same as any other rooted device at this stage. **this can only be done one way, and that one single way isn't free.**
you want to have all the stages mentioned in that link covered apart from the last firmware guide which is more optional.
How are you getting S-off that isn't free? I had S-off within a week of owning my phone back when it was new, and I'm on Verizon, they are the devil when it comes to modding anything. Have you looked into Sunshine?
hello guys,im looking forward rooting my m8,is there any method to root my phone without void my warranty?(i mean if i unroot my phone will still be on warranty?)
ieatabiscuit said:
How are you getting S-off that isn't free? I had S-off within a week of owning my phone back when it was new, and I'm on Verizon, they are the devil when it comes to modding anything. Have you looked into Sunshine?
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the "not free" S-off I'm referring to is sunshine, unless things have changed (if they have I'll be delighted).
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the "not free" S-off I'm referring to is sunshine, unless things have changed (if they have I'll be delighted).
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Just rechecked into it to refresh my memory, as I've been S-off so long I forgot the method I had used. It was in the pre-Sunshine days. I used Firewater to get S-off (thought Sunshine sounded odd to me for some reason). Didn't cost me anything but a couple minutes of my time. Hope that helps. I wouldn't want to pay for S-off either, it's not really something that I think many people would want to do...
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GreiverX said:
hello guys,im looking forward rooting my m8,is there any method to root my phone without void my warranty?(i mean if i unroot my phone will still be on warranty?)
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If you have a way to revert it and become S-on again (assuming you're S-off also) I would say you could hide the fact it's been rooted by unrooting and removing any root apps, but don't quote me on that. I rooted back when mine was new, and never looked back at the warranty. Now my phone would have had the warranty expire anyway, so it still doesn't matter. When in doubt, assume the warranty to be void upon rooting, but research a way to revert if it's possible. Not like we have to bother with KNOX at least.
only way is USD $25 for sunshine....can't S-OFF it without other ways.
WingZer0n said:
only way is USD $25 for sunshine....can't S-OFF it without other ways.
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then why does firewater say different?
grrmisfit said:
then why does firewater say different?
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firewater doesn't work anymore unfortunately. Only way to get S-Off now is sunshine @ USD 25.
3mel said:
I've just rooted my phone unlocking the bootloader yesterday. I haven't gone S-off yet.
I'm coming from Samsung phones so things are a little different for me too. I followed this guide which covers everything you can and will need to gain full root on an m8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
to get root apps to have all the ability they have elsewhere you need to cover 3 steps
1) unlock the bootloader, which will make some partitions accessible, but writing to the system partition is still blocked apart from via custom recovery (the phone reboots when you try to write into the system partition without "full root").
2) root. fairly obvious what that is.
3) gain S-off, which makes system partition accessible outside of the custom recovery. the phone can be enjoyed the same as any other rooted device at this stage. **this can only be done one way, and that one single way isn't free.**
you want to have all the stages mentioned in that link covered apart from the last firmware guide which is more optional.
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Hi I can't root mine . Every time I try to get token it says that it's a incorrect file batch path or something like that? Do you know what the problem is?
Nebster7 said:
Hi I can't root mine . Every time I try to get token it says that it's a incorrect file batch path or something like that? Do you know what the problem is?
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Please stop making new posts in different threads. It won't get your issue fixed any faster. It just confuses those trying to help you, leaving incomplete bits of info here and there. Just stick to one thread, specifically the one where I am already trying to help you.
redpoint73 said:
Please stop making new posts in different threads. It won't get your issue fixed any faster. It just confuses those trying to help you, leaving incomplete bits of info here and there. Just stick to one thread, specifically the one where I am already trying to help you.
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Sorry. I have my issue fixed now as I just needed to type cmd on the top of the window to get token to unlock bootloader token. Flashed aicp 14.0 working excellent. Much faster, better battery oh only arm 9.0 pico seemed like the best gapps as I tried other ones didn't work. Man it took a lot of searching to do this as things are posted all over the place
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Nebster7 said:
Sorry. I have my issue fixed now as I just needed to type cmd on the top of the window to get token to unlock bootloader token. Flashed aicp 14.0 working excellent. Much faster, better battery oh only arm 9.0 pico seemed like the best gapps as I tried other ones didn't work. Man it took a lot of searching to do this as things are posted all over the place
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Just one thing my PC doesn't see my phone now.???
Nebster7 said:
Just one thing my PC doesn't see my phone now.???
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Meaning what exactly? Doesn't see storage (did you select the option on the phone to allow data transfer?) or adb or fastboot? Booted to the custom ROM, or something else (bootloader, recovery)?
When asking for help, please give as much information as possible. One sentence is really never enough info to go on.
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hi ive been looking round how to root my g1 and had no conformation if the UK version g1 are different to root than the US.
can some give me some clarification on how to root them.
thanks in advance
i am a us g1 users so i might be incorrect but i believe that you need to use rc9 or a gold card. if it is rc9, the rest of the method is the same just a different .nbh
porkky said:
hi ive been looking round how to root my g1
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No, you didn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Afirejar said:
No, you didn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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Hey I’m having some trouble getting to grips with rooting too; there is quite a lot of information (some of it contradictory or at least inconsistent) for someone new like myself to take in. I consider myself pretty tech savvy but my G1 is uninsured and I’m frankly terrified of bricking it as I’ve got a year left on my contract to pay.
Anyway my point being...the guide your pointing to is specifically tailored to US models as are most guides on the net it’s very hard to find anything definitive about rooting the UK models with regard to SPL and Radio, etc. Also, given that this stuff moves soo quickly (which is an amazing testament to the hard work that all the devs and everyone else involved puts in, thank you!) it’s hard to catch up on everything and understand what exactly to do.
One click root works fine on crc37 uk phones ive rooted a couple now just follow the usual instructions, there's little danger of anything getting bricked if you arent touching radio which you dont need to do to load CM using the one click root app
http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/
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One click root works fine on crc37 uk phones ive rooted a couple now just follow the usual instructions, there's little danger of anything getting bricked if you arent touching radio which you dont need to do to load CM using the one click root app
http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/
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I'm a little confused with all this too.
I've been to that blog and that seems simple enough.
It should work on this right? -
firmware - 1.5
kernel - 2.6.27 [email protected] #1
Build Number - CRC 1
Now, this means by phone is rooted, (Basically giving me sys admin rather than root user?)
Which in turn means I can install custom ROM images? Is there anything else this allows me to do?
And is all this permement? Or will it go back to the original ROM on the hardware when I hard reboot?
Sorry for all the questions, I got my phone today .
That's an original and most up to date UK version, so no you're not rooted. Easiest way is the one-click root, just install, put rom on SD card, run prog, reboot, flash (Read full instructions though).
Having root enables you to have full access, so you can do whatever you like from terminal and applications which require special permissions to run can, some cool stuff can only be done with root.
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That's an original and most up to date UK version, so no you're not rooted. Easiest way is the one-click root, just install, put rom on SD card, run prog, reboot, flash (Read full instructions though).
Having root enables you to have full access, so you can do whatever you like from terminal and applications which require special permissions to run can, some cool stuff can only be done with root.
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Thanks for the quick reply and I'm not trying to Hijack the thread, (But the OP will probably want to know this too), once I've rooted and installed the new ROM from the boot menu loader thing, how do I go about formatting my SD card to ex2?
I'm looking at this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535232
But in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204 CM himself says not to install APPS2SD. Can you do the format from inside that ROM or does it do it automatically for you?
Yeah cyanogen roms already contain their own method of app2sd, so trying to use another method on top just screws things up.
All you need to do is partition the card, then when you reboot it will see the partition, move your current stuff over and be good to go.
Follow this guide for partitioning from recovery console: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
I apologize if there is already a thread like this, but the search wasnt working.. I know what i can do with my phone once it is rooted, I am just interested in what happens tot he actual phone. I could be wrong, but once i root it isnt it always possible to tell that i rooted it even if i unroot it so therefor all warantees are voided? sorry if im being unclear, i cant think of another way to explain it haha.
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I apologize if there is already a thread like this, but the search wasnt working.. I know what i can do with my phone once it is rooted, I am just interested in what happens tot he actual phone. I could be wrong, but once i root it isnt it always possible to tell that i rooted it even if i unroot it so therefor all warantees are voided? sorry if im being unclear, i cant think of another way to explain it haha.
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The language on the "warranty void" screen says that unlocking the bootloader "may" void your warranty. On the Nexus One, HTC usually honored the warranty if the issue was with anything hardware related and could not have been the result of software tampering. Granted, that's them and this is Samsung.
Further, unless there is something hidden in the system files that counts the number of times you unlock the bootloader, you can always relock it prior to sending it in for repair with fastboot oem lock.
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The language on the "warranty void" screen says that unlocking the bootloader "may" void your warranty. On the Nexus One, HTC usually honored the warranty if the issue was with anything hardware related and could not have been the result of software tampering. Granted, that's them and this is Samsung.
Further, unless there is something hidden in the system files that counts the number of times you unlock the bootloader, you can always relock it prior to sending it in for repair with fastboot oem lock.
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So there is a way to kind of undo the root without them knowing? THanks a lot btw. I figured it was something like this.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
So there is a way to kind of undo the root without them knowing? THanks a lot btw. I figured it was something like this.
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unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things
jblade1000 said:
unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things
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Ahh i have no idea what unlocking the bootloader does then.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
Ahh i have no idea what unlocking the bootloader does then.
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In a nutshell, unlocking the bootloader means you will be allowed to flash non-Google/custom files to the system partition and more or less enables superuser access(aka root). Once thats done, then you "root" the device, push the Superuser.apk which will enable the rooted apps. Please check out the rooted section of my stickied FAQ for more detail on how to do this if you decide to. There are two great threads I link to.
Once you lock the bootloader, you lose access to the system partition and superuser I believe which effectively unroots it.
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In a nutshell, unlocking the bootloader means you will be allowed to flash non-Google/custom files to the system partition and more or less enables superuser access(aka root). Once thats done, then you "root" the device, push the Superuser.apk which will enable the rooted apps. Please check out the rooted section of my stickied FAQ for more detail on how to do this if you decide to. There are two great threads I link to.
Once you lock the bootloader, you lose access to the system partition and superuser I believe which effectively unroots it.
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So basically if you want to do any sort of mods, flash roms, etc. you need to unlock the bootload and root. Thanks a lot for explaining that. I think i understand it now, but just to clarify, if i unlock the bootloader and root will i be able to get the phone back to stock without samsung knowing that i rooted/unlock the bootloader?
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So basically if you want to do any sort of mods, flash roms, etc. you need to unlock the bootload and root. Thanks a lot for explaining that. I think i understand it now, but just to clarify, if i unlock the bootloader and root will i be able to get the phone back to stock without samsung knowing that i rooted/unlock the bootloader?
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Yes, to mod/flash roms you need to unlock the bootloader. It's possible that sometime down the road someone may develop a method of gaining root access on the phone without touching it, but it's unlikely given the fact that we can both unlock and lock the bootloader very easily.
Right now, the answer is... more or less. If you make a NAND backup in Clockwork Recovery/Rom manager of your stock ROM, you can restore back to that, fastboot flash the closest thing we have currently to the stock recovery(check development section for this), then relock the bootloader. This will give the phone all appearances of being stock. Unless Samsung has something deep in the system files tracking the number of times you've unlocked/locked(which I doubt, since I'm sure such a system would have been found by now), you should be good to go.
Most people who have returned the phone to Best Buy have noted that they don't even power on the device or check to see if the bootloader is unlocked or if there's a custom recovery on there. But your mileage may vary.
Interesting stuff. I was under the impression that once clockworkmod is flashed there is no way to remove it at this time.
Reading this thread I'm guessing and hoping this is not the case?
I had clockworkmod installed but used rom manager to flash the 2.3.1 update and i've now got the stock bootloader back. I guess the ota update does the same? It would seem that getting back to stock is pretty easy.
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Interesting stuff. I was under the impression that once clockworkmod is flashed there is no way to remove it at this time.
Reading this thread I'm guessing and hoping this is not the case?
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My apologies, I posted that before I came to the same understanding regarding the stock recovery.
Like the poster above me mentioned there is a NAND backup of stock 2.3.1 you could restore to which has the stock recovery.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll do some more reading in the dev section
Thanks a lot, this really helped me out a lot. I will proceed to rooting
So, just want to make sure I have this straight... You unlock the bootloader, load custom recovery, SU, and now phone is rooted. If you lock the bootloader, you lose root?
For me, I'm not big on custom roms since I just don't have time to keep things up to date or participate in the bug process, but I do like to maintain backups with Titanium (my primary reason for rooting). So by locking the bootloader down I will not be able to use Titanium. Furthermore, unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. So is there a reason one would not want to keep the bootloader unlocked? Have I completely misunderstood the system?
I am looking into rooting my Nexus S so I can install an ICS ROM. This is my first time rooting so got a question.
How will OTA updates work for me? Will the ICS update just work or will I have to in root to get the official OTA update?
Sry if this has been asked before couldn't find a clear answer.
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Don't do OTAs. Any update released by Google or your manufacturer will be released here, rooted, within hours.
If you take an OTA you will lose root and could even find your phone locked again (as unlikely as that is with the NS, better safe than sorry. Ask the EVO users who took the GB OTA )
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Rooting requires flashing custom recovery
OTA requires stock recovery to work properly
So if your phone has custom recovery the OTA will not work.
Alright, thanks alot for the quick responses guys.
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Once the ota is downloaded.....
* Put the zip on sdcard
* Reboot into custom recovery
* Manually flash it
* Directly after that, in the same recovery session, flash latest superuser zip
* Wipe cache
* Reboot
I run stock, so i'll add my two cents into this conversations. A few key points:
OTA's will NOT lock the boot loader
OTA's will work with CWM installed (The OTA will however remove CWM and needs to be manually applied)
OTA's will remove root access (the permissions on the binary get changed)
I have never seen an OTA on XDA that was pre-rooted. i have seen ROM packages that incorporate the OTA that are pre-rooted (installing these usually means a wipe of the device is needed)
if you replace the ROM on the phone, you will not get OTA updated. you must remain mostly stock to obtain them.
Custom kernels or custom google apps on stock roms will cause the OTA update to fail, however you will notified that the update is available.
I hope this answers your questions.
Good points.
What i do in order to maintain the full software (removing system apps, any system changes) is change the permissions of whatever i dont want to "000"
This will allow the verifying of OTA to flash.
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Good points.
What i do in order to maintain the full software (removing system apps, any system changes) is change the permissions of whatever i dont want to "000"
This will allow the verifying of OTA to flash.
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This does not always work, such as installing the "Black" version of gmail over top the original, the world-wide version of navigation or using market enabler to change the prop.build file. any of these changes will cause the OTA signature to fail.
Though if you are simply removing a system app, then yes, that would work well.
Also to be noted and this just occurred to me, if the OTA is a full ROM version, then the signature won't matter and it will just install. For ICS, this is what i'm expecting.
I'm on the fence about rooting. I know there are advantages like custom ROMs and added features, but I'm somewhat of a newb at this. While the instructions (for the Mac) seem simple enough, I always feel like something inevitably goes wrong or there's some variable I've either overlooked or don't understand that screws things up.
I definitely don't want to brick my phone.
I don't even know what I'm asking in my post, but I guess... what are some advantages of rooting? And if I root, is it fully reversible?
I'm also confused by some of the terminology. What is clockwork recovery? Is that a sort of ROM? I keep seeing that phrase every time I read instructions. Likewise, what's a bootloader? What's fastboot? Also, what's a kernel?
And after I root (as you can see, I am really tempted to), what happens next? How do I choose which ROM works for me? Is it a matter of flashing them and trying each of them out?
I'm afraid of entering the world of root, but I want to. Advice? Does it matter what baseband, or kernel or build number I have?
I'm on Android 2.3.6
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I run stock, so i'll add my two cents into this conversations. A few key points:
OTA's will NOT lock the boot loader
I hope this answers your questions.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145056
I know it's not likely, particularly with this phone, but it can happen. I maintain that if you're going to go through the process of unlocking your phone and putting a rooted ROM on it that you might as well wait for a modified OTA ROM to get posted by a trusted dev before just installing what the carrier hands out to you.
I guess maybe I should have said "re-lock"?
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I'm on the fence about rooting. I know there are advantages like custom ROMs and added features, but I'm somewhat of a newb at this. While the instructions (for the Mac) seem simple enough, I always feel like something inevitably goes wrong or there's some variable I've either overlooked or don't understand that screws things up.
I definitely don't want to brick my phone.
I don't even know what I'm asking in my post, but I guess... what are some advantages of rooting? And if I root, is it fully reversible?
I'm also confused by some of the terminology. What is clockwork recovery? Is that a sort of ROM? I keep seeing that phrase every time I read instructions. Likewise, what's a bootloader? What's fastboot? Also, what's a kernel?
And after I root (as you can see, I am really tempted to), what happens next? How do I choose which ROM works for me? Is it a matter of flashing them and trying each of them out?
I'm afraid of entering the world of root, but I want to. Advice? Does it matter what baseband, or kernel or build number I have?
I'm on Android 2.3.6
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OK, let's clear a few things up here.
CWM or ClockWorkMod is a custom recover that can be installed on the phones. This step is needed because the default recovery on the nexus does not allow for updates to be installed that are unsigned. CWM does, so it's a necessary step to installing the SU binary (aka root your phone) or installing custom ROMs
The bootloader is the basic system on your phone that reacts to the power on and hands over operations to Android. The equivalent in the PC world would be a BIOS.
fastboot is a utility that is provided by google that allows you to send commands to the bootloader and direct it's operations. It's needed to unlock the bootloader (so you can replace parts of it.. like recovery with CWM)
Interestingly enough, you can boot your phone to a custom recovery WITHOUT replacing your existing stock recovery by using fastboot.
Rooting your phone is simply installing and providing the proper rights to the SU binary to allow you to have full administrative rights to the phone, the superuser application is almost always bundled with it as it allows for a form of control as to what applications can use root access. Rooting your phone allows you to install some very interesting application, most popular are titanium backup (let's you back up app data and restore them after a reset) and removing advertising (adfree/adaway or it's like) Root can also be used by some applications that allow you to "cheat" at games.
rooting your phone is reversable, though not always the easiest to do. With the stock ROMS, it's fairly easy, you just re-apply the latest OTA and it will kill Root access on your device.
When it comes to custom ROMs the vast majority come pre-rooted to save you the hassel of doing it yourself.
On other phones where the bootloader remains locked, you have to use an exploit to gain root access, this then allows you to modify the OS and install custom roms and CWM while keeping the bootloader locked. Since the Nexus line can be unlocked, it's not needed.
Please note, root access is NOT required to install a custom ROM.
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I know it's not likely, particularly with this phone, but it can happen. I maintain that if you're going to go through the process of unlocking your phone and putting a rooted ROM on it that you might as well wait for a modified OTA ROM to get posted by a trusted dev before just installing what the carrier hands out to you.
I guess maybe I should have said "re-lock"?
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That's a link to a non-nexus phone. The question here is in regards to the nexus device and i believe my statement stands 100% true. Since it's a self proclaimed "newby" asking questions, i don't want to confuse the post with un-needed and non-relevant information.
Matridom, wow thanks. That clarifies a few things.
So, you say root access isn't required to flash custom ROMs? Let's say for example, I want to flash an ICS ROM, or even a ROM that allows me to have Backlight Notifications?
I don't need root? If I don't need root, how do I flash those ROMs?
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That's a link to a non-nexus phone. The question here is in regards to the nexus device and i believe my statement stands 100% true. Since it's a self proclaimed "newby" asking questions, i don't want to confuse the post with un-needed and non-relevant information.
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I'm not sure why it's so invalid to advise that he wait for someone to post an OTA that has been vetted for those of us who have unlocked our phones; I respect your opinion (even if you clearly don't mine), but your statement that I am providing "un-needed" and "non-relevant" information is a bit harsh.
The fact of the matter is that Sprint has had at least one OTA released (for the EVO 4G) that re-locked bootloaders and caused a lot of consternation for people who took the OTA on their unlocked phones and found themselves waiting months for a new exploit to be found. Those who waited had a rooted version of the OTA available on the forums very quickly, so if those who took the OTA had just waited they wouldn't have been stuck.
tl;dr: If you went to the trouble of unlocking your phone in the first place I don't see why you would rush to take an un-vetted update OTA.
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I'm not sure why it's so invalid to advise that he wait for someone to post an OTA that has been vetted for those of us who have unlocked our phones; I respect your opinion (even if you clearly don't mine), but your statement that I am providing "un-needed" and "non-relevant" information is a bit harsh.
The fact of the matter is that Sprint has had at least one OTA released (for the EVO 4G) that re-locked bootloaders and caused a lot of consternation for people who took the OTA on their unlocked phones and found themselves waiting months for a new exploit to be found. Those who waited had a rooted version of the OTA available on the forums very quickly, so if those who took the OTA had just waited they wouldn't have been stuck.
tl;dr: If you went to the trouble of unlocking your phone in the first place I don't see why you would rush to take an un-vetted update OTA.
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The key here is that SPRINT released an OTA for a SPRINT branded device. This has zero relevance to updates provided by Google for Nexus devices.
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I'm not sure why it's so invalid to advise that he wait for someone to post an OTA that has been vetted for those of us who have unlocked our phones; I respect your opinion (even if you clearly don't mine), but your statement that I am providing "un-needed" and "non-relevant" information is a bit harsh.
The fact of the matter is that Sprint has had at least OTA released (for the EVO 4G) that re-locked bootloaders and caused a lot of consternation for people who took the OTA on their unlocked phones and found themselves waiting months for a new exploit to be found. Those who waited had a rooted version of the OTA available on the forums very quickly, so if those who took the OTA had just waited they wouldn't have been stuck.
tl;dr: If you went to the trouble of unlocking your phone in the first place I don't see why you would rush to take an un-vetted update OTA.
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The issue at heart here is that fact that the OTA for the nexus line of phones comes straight from google and are not "tweaked" in any way by the carriers. (exception nexus 4g has additional applications required for CDMA support)
One of the selling features of the nexus phones is the fact that unlocking the bootloader is officially supported.
In regards to other phones getting their bootloader locked, I've experienced first hand the pains of that, having a galaxy S and the 2.3 installing a new bootloader and really screwing things up for me. In those cases, i agree with you whole heartily and to wait for pre-cracked roms that can be installed.
My question to you would be to please show an example of a nexus S getting it's booloader locked due to an OTA update as that is the phone we are discussing.
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Matridom, wow thanks. That clarifies a few things.
So, you say root access isn't required to flash custom ROMs? Let's say for example, I want to flash an ICS ROM, or even a ROM that allows me to have Backlight Notifications?
I don't need root? If I don't need root, how do I flash those ROMs?
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All you would need to do is to unlock the bootloader, install CWM, then apply the .zip associated with the ROM you wish to install. I would however carefully read the installation instructions for the rom as in some cases, it might be a multi-step process (such as going from a 2.2 rom to a 2.3).
Many ROMS also do not come with the google apps and secondary zip file needs to be applied to get those running (cyanogenMod does this)
I wanted to add, that the process of unlocking your bootloader will erase EVERYTHING on the phone, including the SDcard partition. So make sure you back up anything of importance.
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My question to you would be to please show an example of a nexus S getting it's booloader locked due to an OTA update as that is the phone we are discussing.
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I can't provide an example because, as I have already stated, this was a precautionary suggestion only.
I'm not going to get into a debate with you over this; I've made my point and you've made yours. Thanks.
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This does not always work, such as installing the "Black" version of gmail over top the original, the world-wide version of navigation or using market enabler to change the prop.build file. any of these changes will cause the OTA signature to fail.
Though if you are simply removing a system app, then yes, that would work well.
Also to be noted and this just occurred to me, if the OTA is a full ROM version, then the signature won't matter and it will just install. For ICS, this is what i'm expecting.
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Good point again but the trick is to put your apps in /system/framework
Along with framework-res.apk.
This will add a dex file to /data/dalvik-cache, which is needed for saving upon reboot
Does flashing another radio that's different from your original radio impact the ability to apply an OTA?
suksit said:
Rooting requires flashing custom recovery
OTA requires stock recovery to work properly
So if your phone has custom recovery the OTA will not work.
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Rooting doesn't require flashing custom recovery.
iboj007 said:
Does flashing another radio that's different from your original radio impact the ability to apply an OTA?
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No. It doesnt
Why can't I use the unlock bootloader option in settings on my 727 with .021 firmware to initiate the root process and adding twrp? Basically all I want to do is remove leeco bloatware, and I am new at this. I have read darn near every post on this phone here and seen too many variations on how to do this. If I brick it I'll deal with it but at the moment I am happy with the stock rom. Maybe as confidence builds I'll try other things but if I can rid myself of the leeco apps I'll be happy. Guide me through this and I will be eternally grateful.
millercd said:
Why can't I use the unlock bootloader option in settings on my 727 with .021 firmware to initiate the root process and adding twrp? Basically all I want to do is remove leeco bloatware, and I am new at this. I have read darn near every post on this phone here and seen too many variations on how to do this. If I brick it I'll deal with it but at the moment I am happy with the stock rom. Maybe as confidence builds I'll try other things but if I can rid myself of the leeco apps I'll be happy. Guide me through this and I will be eternally grateful.
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Read the forms on unlocking pro 3 727 their 2 or 3 threads on it.
Sent from my LEX720 using xda premium
From what I've gathered from hours of reading these forums I should be able to use the oem bootloader unlock in my settings, download twrp from Google play store and be on my merry way then. One of the forums went over oem unlock and they still had to use another process to unlock. Has that been resolved?
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Why can't I use the unlock bootloader option in settings on my 727 with .021 firmware to initiate the root process and adding twrp? Basically all I want to do is remove leeco bloatware, and I am new at this. I have read darn near every post on this phone here and seen too many variations on how to do this. If I brick it I'll deal with it but at the moment I am happy with the stock rom. Maybe as confidence builds I'll try other things but if I can rid myself of the leeco apps I'll be happy. Guide me through this and I will be eternally grateful.
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Try this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71566961&postcount=203
I appreciate the path to that post...looks like what I am after. What do I do with the unlock bootloader in my settings, lock or unlock?
millercd said:
I appreciate the path to that post...looks like what I am after. What do I do with the unlock bootloader in my settings, lock or unlock?
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It likely you will have to flash bootloader to get unlocked.
If zip fails you will need to do this to get unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75999245
Sent from my LEX720 using xda premium
millercd said:
I appreciate the path to that post...looks like what I am after. What do I do with the unlock bootloader in my settings, lock or unlock?
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Unlock
millercd said:
Why can't I use the unlock bootloader option in settings on my 727 with .021 firmware to initiate the root process and adding twrp? Basically all I want to do is remove leeco bloatware, and I am new at this. I have read darn near every post on this phone here and seen too many variations on how to do this. If I brick it I'll deal with it but at the moment I am happy with the stock rom. Maybe as confidence builds I'll try other things but if I can rid myself of the leeco apps I'll be happy. Guide me through this and I will be eternally grateful.
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Did you get it?
If not, I can send you extremely detailed step by step.
Be careful. Make sure that you root with Magisk and install a permanent TWRP recovery. After unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing TWRP, itseasy to do anything that you want to your phone. The steps for unlocking the X727 bootloader is different and a little more tricky than other Leeco's.
If all you want to do is unbloat your eUI ROM, just use adb to uninstall apps... you don't even have to be rooted. https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...co-spyware-t3503389/post69712213#post69712213
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
If you mess up, just factory reset the ROM and start over.
tsongming said:
Did you get it?
If not, I can send you extremely detailed step by step.
Be careful. Make sure that you root with Magisk and install a permanent TWRP recovery. After unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing TWRP, itseasy to do anything that you want to your phone. The steps for unlocking the X727 bootloader is different and a little more tricky than other Leeco's.
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Your offer is extremely appreciated. new to this forum and not sure how pm's sent...let me now and I will take you up on your offer.
sk8223 said:
If all you want to do is unbloat your eUI ROM, just use adb to uninstall apps... you don't even have to be rooted. https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...co-spyware-t3503389/post69712213#post69712213
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
If you mess up, just factory reset the ROM and start over.
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By golly 'sk' this may be exactly what I am after. After reading the article within your links there appears to be a little debate but I can pick thru that pretty easily. The 'space' issue would be nice to have after debloating but if in partitions that I cannot use so be it. The ram issue and battery usage are my main concerns when it comes to benefits of debloating (not forgetting the useless ads and apps I will never use along with any other trash I may receive from bloatware that I am unaware of) I will give this process a try and if any questions arise do you mind if I come to you or do you recommend another fully educated in this process? Many, many thanks for this post!
millercd said:
Your offer is extremely appreciated. new to this forum and not sure how pm's sent...let me now and I will take you up on your offer.
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See your inbox
millercd said:
By golly 'sk' this may be exactly what I am after. After reading the article within your links there appears to be a little debate but I can pick thru that pretty easily. The 'space' issue would be nice to have after debloating but if in partitions that I cannot use so be it. The ram issue and battery usage are my main concerns when it comes to benefits of debloating (not forgetting the useless ads and apps I will never use along with any other trash I may receive from bloatware that I am unaware of) I will give this process a try and if any questions arise do you mind if I come to you or do you recommend another fully educated in this process? Many, many thanks for this post!
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Okay, but I made a thread for this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/adb-bloatware-removal-le-pro-3-x722-x720-t3680384
It appears in posted thread that "pm uninstall" is the only path to take in my phone also as the disable path errors out. Never saw if there was an easy way to get lots of com.'''''''.'''' 's in one pass or if each one has to be pm uninstalled individually?
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It appears in posted thread that "pm uninstall" is the only path to take in my phone also as the disable path errors out. Never saw if there was an easy way to get lots of com.'''''''.'''' 's in one pass or if each one has to be pm uninstalled individually?
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You'll have to do it individually unless you can figure out how to mass insert a bunch of lines into cmd. Probably as a .bat file. Look around the Internet on how to compile one.
I have accomplished my task and am very thankful to sk and tson for their patience and willingness to help a person out. If all someone wants to do is debloat w/o root and their device will allow them follow sk's path...if want root follow tson's. Worked perfect with my leeco le pro 3 x727. Again thank you!
tsongming said:
Did you get it?
If not, I can send you extremely detailed step by step.
Be careful. Make sure that you root with Magisk and install a permanent TWRP recovery. After unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing TWRP, itseasy to do anything that you want to your phone. The steps for unlocking the X727 bootloader is different and a little more tricky than other Leeco's.
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Please send me that extremly detailed step by step, I am new with this and I do not want to screw it up.
Thanks in advance
mavelino said:
Please send me that extremly detailed step by step, I am new with this and I do not want to screw it up.
Thanks in advance
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75009966
At the risk of being barked at by the spirited young hackers on this forum:
After days of searching the interwebs, I am close to resetting to factory settings and returning this thing, even though I really like the phone itself.
Admittedly, I'm a total Android virgin and know only what many hours of googl'ing have left behind (it's all a blur, at this point), but after all of my attempts to use the common rooting suspects (KingoRoot, King Root, iRoot, etc.), I sit here more confused than I can handle.
First attempts at figuring out adb and fastboot made me realise I am in way over my head.
Anyone know of a way to root my XZP running Pie, from my Mac, for free (if at all possible), without first having to get a degree in computer science. I can stumble my way around Terminal, if given clear instructions, but that's where it ends.
hope someone can help.
I really want to get the EU firmware flashed onto this thing, with the modem working as designed for the US market, and hopefully use this thing as a router and many other things that require root access.
But I also read the thread about people like me, who don't know much about Android, ruining their bootloaders and then coming here for help/support...so the question for me arises is: reset to factory settings and return it, before I get myself into quicksand territory, or do whatever it takes to figure it out (with the help of the esteemed community).
It's just such a nice phone, and I miss the iOS jailbreaking days so much, that this would be the perfect antidote.
Anyone care to help?
About the reason, that you are post in this forum thread, I guess you've make your choice of phone. Isn't ir?
In this case, there is a very good manual how to save your TA partition, root the phone and so on...
If you are unsure, which phone you will buy...... Make first of all your choices... Look in xda if the device is supported and following the thread
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About the reason, that you are post in this forum thread, I guess you've make your choice of phone. Isn't ir?
In this case, there is a very good manual how to save your TA partition, root the phone and so on...
If you are unsure, which phone you will buy...... Make first of all your choices... Look in xda if the device is supported and following the thread
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thanks for that first heads-up, mad0701.
yeah, I am set on the XZP, as my first Android phone. It serves my primary purpose of being a little presentation device for my 4K video and photography work perfectly, I already enjoy it as a very good Hi-Res music player, it will hopefully serve me as a little portable router/VPN, etc. once I figure out how to root it, and it was a great deal, for a used one, for so much power. But I also want to be able to use its fingerprint sensor, here in the USA, and for that...
So when you say that "a very good manual" is out there, would you be so kind as to share a link? I tried to follow so many methods, at this point, that I am at the end of my wits.
Check this thread... There is a manual available... Step by step... Only give attention, that you flash the TWRP version for your device...
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3795510&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
[XZ1c/XZ1/XZp] temp root exploit to backup drm keys implemented
mad0701 said:
Check this thread... There is a manual available... Step by step... Only give attention, that you flash the TWRP version for your device...
[XZ1c/XZ1/XZp] temp root exploit to backup drm keys implemented
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thanks again, mad0701...I was out riding all day and just skimmed over that link...first reaction: this is more advanced than I feel confident tackling...I fear that a one wrong action on my part might leave me in a situation where I can't even get the phone back to factory settings, and won't be able to return it anymore (for which I have one week left).
I'll read through the manual in more detail, maybe tomorrow, and if it seems that I can actually do all that, successfully, then maybe I will give it a try. But since I don't even know what the TA is, or the TWRP version, it may be something I may not wanna get into at this time...only so many hours in the day.
but thanks for showing me the manual!
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but thanks for showing me the manual!
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[XZ1c/XZ1/XZp] temp root exploit to backup drm keys implemented
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Lots of people keep pointing at this thread without actually reading it. There still isn't a way to relock your bootloader with your saved TA partition. Yes you can save your individualy encrypted key, but then what?
You still need to unlock your phone to get permanent root, with no way of putting the key back in place, so you still need a 'fixed' kernel
If you want an easy way to root your phone, as you admit yourself your android experience is limited., then I would recomend Xperifix
@sToRm// wrote a one stop shop program that did everything, but then took his work to a private website as he wanted to charge for all the hours that he put into it.
The original thread is here, this would tell you what to do and the drivers you need to install (important). Then the go to the Xperiafix website and pay your $20.
I used it to root my XZ1 compact and it really was as easy as plug it in and follow instructions.
The only probelm with this is that there still isn't a root available for Pie firmware, so his fix is based on Oreo builds.
Lots of people speak badly of Xperiafix 'why pay for a fix when you can get it for free?'
Yea, but free is complicated and I'm happy to pay for easy.
Edit: To answer your original question, I'm not sure there is a Pie root kenel for a stock rom available yet, I know @janjan posted a Pie kernel on the XZ1compact thread, so it's just a matter of time before he updates the XZ premium
You could go with a custom rom to get rooted Pie, read the instructions and decide if you're up for it.
Didgesteve said:
Lots of people keep pointing at this thread without actually reading it. There still isn't a way to relock your bootloader with your saved TA partition. Yes you can save your individualy encrypted key, but then what?
You still need to unlock your phone to get permanent root, with no way of putting the key back in place, so you still need a 'fixed' kernel
If you want an easy way to root your phone, as you admit yourself your android experience is limited., then I would recomend Xperifix
@sToRm// wrote a one stop shop program that did everything, but then took his work to a private website as he wanted to charge for all the hours that he put into it.
The original thread is here, this would tell you what to do and the drivers you need to install (important). Then the go to the Xperiafix website and pay your $20.
I used it to root my XZ1 compact and it really was as easy as plug it in and follow instructions.
The only probelm with this is that there still isn't a root available for Pie firmware, so his fix is based on Oreo builds.
Lots of people speak badly of Xperiafix 'why pay for a fix when you can get it for free?'
Yea, but free is complicated and I'm happy to pay for easy.
Edit: To answer your original question, I'm not sure there is a Pie root kenel available yet, I know @janjan posted a Pie kernel on the XZ1compact thread, so it's just a matter of time before he updates the XZ premium
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Theres no need for a kernel for pie, flash pie, flash twrp flash magisk. That's it.
Beetle84 said:
Theres no need for a kernel for pie, flash pie, flash twrp flash magisk. That's it.
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I just realised that Xperiafix is a windows program anyway Doh
Didgesteve said:
I just realised that Xperiafix is a windows program anyway Doh
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I totally missed the Mac part....
Alright, u need adb and fastboot for mac.
If you will find newer instructions use it, here is the first thing I found.
Unlock ur device here using fastboot, it clearly written there how to do it.
Find latest twrp recovery in this forum.
Use fastboot again.
"fastboot flash recovery your.recovery.img"
Then, using this recovery u need to flash latest magisc.
I've gave u enough information, with minimum efforts u will be able to find everything u need to do it. Plus u will learn something useful.
Goodluck
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thanks again, mad0701...I was out riding all day and just skimmed over that link...first reaction: this is more advanced than I feel confident tackling...I fear that a one wrong action on my part might leave me in a situation where I can't even get the phone back to factory settings, and won't be able to return it anymore (for which I have one week left).
I'll read through the manual in more detail, maybe tomorrow, and if it seems that I can actually do all that, successfully, then maybe I will give it a try. But since I don't even know what the TA is, or the TWRP version, it may be something I may not wanna get into at this time...only so many hours in the day.
but thanks for showing me the manual!
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the manual looking complicated but it only took 2 hours for me, and if u backup and restore your TA partition, u dont need any drm fix for all firmwares, and dont pay for any useless programs like xperifix(the guy on upper comments always advertise this useless windows program)
for rooting, its very easy on pie
I really appreciate all of y'all's input...but, to be honest, I understand too little of it, at the moment, to feel inclined to dive into executing some of those instructions.
I mean, it looks like I was given enough info to have a chance to root and flash my XZP successfully, but I may just hold off for a bit, maybe return this one and wait until I can either score an XZP that's already been rooted and flashed with the mixed EU/US firmware, or wait until I can afford to get a newer device, which has all of the features I am looking for already working: 4K screen, fingerprint sensor, and preferably being a Sony...if such a device exists now.
But truly, thank you all, for now!