Axon 7 and AOSP Drivers - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

Does anybody know yet if there are any non open sourced pieces of hardware on the Axon 7 that would lose functionality with an AOSP rom? On my LG G3 for example, running an AOSP rom means that the laser auto focus on the camera, and the IR blaster don't work because the drivers for those things are not present in AOSP roms. Would there be any hardware on the Axon 7 that would not have drivers in AOSP roms? I really like the look of this phone, but from what I hear the software it comes with is terrible, I'm just wondering what I would lose if I got it and flashed it with AOSP.

Dude, nobody knows yet. Come back in a month and ask again.

I'd say actually get the phone and see what you think about it. Mine arrives hopefully next week and am super excited. Most of the "software" can be fixed with nova launcher and we hopefully will have twrp soon.
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Nobody knows yet, but I'd suspect the audio may not be all open source, especially the Dolby Atmos codec. Is there an open source drier for our DAC?

celticchrys said:
Nobody knows yet, but I'd suspect the audio may not be all open source, especially the Dolby Atmos codec. Is there an open source drier for our DAC?
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Atmos won't be, but it already seems to be able to ripped out and flashed on (someone on this forum already did it).
Looking at AKM's website, there is no mention of any drivers anywhere. Some of it might depend on how much is built into the chip itself versus what needs to be programmed in/downloaded at runtime.

I'm more concerned for ****ty camers with custom roms than anything else.
But just wait and see. Roms take time.

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TV Out

Ok so I have searched a bit and cannot find anything related to a TV Out for the Dinc. I know I have seen it mentioned on this forum before, but search is not showing any results.
Anywho is it possible to use TV Out on a Dinc running AOSP Rom? (Miui...atm)
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Ok so I have searched a bit and cannot find anything related to a TV Out for the Dinc. I know I have seen it mentioned on this forum before, but search is not showing any results.
Anywho is it possible to use TV Out on a Dinc running AOSP Rom? (Miui...atm)
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I have not heard of it working with AOSP ROMs, only Sense. I don't use TV-OUT at all, but seeing posts about it, it doesn't work with AOSP.
At this very moment, I don't believe so. Although I haven't kept up with any AOSP roms in months. That said, the news (and Verizon support PDF to go along with it) that there is a gingerbread update dropping hopefully this week will bring with it the proper files that AOSP rom developers need to incorporate 720p.
awesome hopefully video out is included in this GB update and can be incorporated into the AOSP roms.
I assume I need a miniusb to hdmi cable or something?
GatorsUF said:
awesome hopefully video out is included in this GB update and can be incorporated into the AOSP roms.
I assume I need a miniusb to hdmi cable or something?
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Maybe some one will make a sense-less script that you can use to remove sense but keep TV out on GB. i know Lou had a script that removes sense on his rom. it felt the same as AOSP
Does TV-out work on sense GB roms? I thought it was just working on froyo but I could be wrong. Assuming that source is going to be released now for GB, maybe we'll see something implemented into AOSP GB roms?
I have no clue about tv out compatibility on gingersense roms,I don't have a use for it. But I will say there are quite a few people anticipating updates in EVERY rom with 720, tv out, kernel development, or glitches being ironed out. I'm happy everyone gets a piece of the pie if and when the source is released.
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Does TV-out work on sense GB roms? I thought it was just working on froyo but I could be wrong. Assuming that source is going to be released now for GB, maybe we'll see something implemented into AOSP GB roms?
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I haven't seen it on any Gingerbread ROMS that I know of... I last had it on WarmZ which was Sense 2.0 on Froyo. The closest I figure I can get to AOSP with TV-Out is LauncherPro+ on the Sense ROM of choice.
I've been patiently waiting for it to show up on G-Bread. The cord is just sitting right there begging to be used lol I have no idea why they can't implement TV-Out on AOSP roms though. Seems like one of those features that just gets thrown in uknow.
what cord is needed? I assume the correct drivers will be found when the source is released.
I assume the GB source thats coming will fix TV-out in both Sense and AOSP roms.
GatorsUF said:
what cord is needed? I assume the correct drivers will be found when the source is released.
I assume the GB source thats coming will fix TV-out in both Sense and AOSP roms.
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I 2nd that question. I know the Dinc has DLNA but what other option is there with just the microUSB port?
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I 2nd that question. I know the Dinc has DLNA but what other option is there with just the microUSB port?
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http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-micro-usb-tv-out-cable.html
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http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-micro-usb-tv-out-cable.html
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Thanks
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Wow, I didn't think that existed -awesome! I'm assuming composite is as good as it gets through USB, no component or HDMI?
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yup, composite is it. no component or hdmi. works well actually. though I usually just use it for podcasts through my receiver.
cpuspeed said:
yup, composite is it. no component or hdmi. works well actually. though I usually just use it for podcasts through my receiver.
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Have you used it for video at all? Good or bad quality? I'm ready to add it to my amazon shopping cart.
GinNjoose said:
Have you used it for video at all? Good or bad quality? I'm ready to add it to my amazon shopping cart.
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Its equivalent to a DVD player or a Wii; it looks really good on CRT TV's and kinda whatever on an HD flat screen... I have a 32 inch CRT and I watch movies off the phone on a regular basis, its pretty awesome
What's a CRT? ;-)
Good info though, thanks. I've been curious about the TV-out functionality of the inc.
I purchased from my Verizon store the TV out cable. Yeah, it works like the last guy said. I picked it up primarily to watch movies on my girlfriend's CRT TV. It worked great. Then she got an LCD and it didn't look quite as good.
I lost TV out once I switched from Sense to CM7. We'll see what happens with the coming GB update. Maybe I'll switch back. I doubt it, though, especially if TV out may be coming to AOSP ROMs.
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I purchased from my Verizon store the TV out cable. Yeah, it works like the last guy said. I picked it up primarily to watch movies on my girlfriend's CRT TV. It worked great. Then she got an LCD and it didn't look quite as good.
I lost TV out once I switched from Sense to CM7. We'll see what happens with the coming GB update. Maybe I'll switch back. I doubt it, though, especially if TV out may be coming to AOSP ROMs.
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I flashed the 2.3.4 leak last night, hopefully I still get tv out
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video looks good, but the processing power of the phone is limited so I've had stuttering issues with higher resolution videos that would look good on an LCD. not the cables fault.

Audio enhancer thread

Hello. I am interested in violation the audio on my 7, and saw the thread about the beats audio driver. I already have that driver installed, but not the other drivers that go along with it. I'm running stock rom, and wanted to know if I could install it even though I already have the Beats driver installed.
Also, after reading several posts, it seems that this hack has more problems than most. I'm happy with the stock jelly bean rom, but am not happy with the audio, but I also don't want to create problems that I have to deal with.
Any suggestions, or insight into whether I should try this or not?
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you could try a customer kernel like trinity and try using a USB audio DAC.. i have a USB Dac on its way to me over the next week or so, really looking forward to trying it out. You have to boot the nexus 7 with the DAC plugged in.. but apparently it works.. looking forward to listening to FLAC files through the DAC on my ie80s'
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Hello. I am interested in violation the audio on my 7, and saw the thread about the beats audio driver. I already have that driver installed, but not the other drivers that go along with it. I'm running stock rom, and wanted to know if I could install it even though I already have the Beats driver installed.
Also, after reading several posts, it seems that this hack has more problems than most. I'm happy with the stock jelly bean rom, but am not happy with the audio, but I also don't want to create problems that I have to deal with.
Any suggestions, or insight into whether I should try this or not?
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That sounds like a lot of trouble just to enhance my audio
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Volume+
Look around for it. Dev has free on his site or pay on play store.

[W.I.P] Samsung Camera App for the OnePlus 3T

I've read a lot about this phone lacking a good camera. I own a S6 and an S7, so I dumped the camera app from my Samsung phone as well as the frameworks required for the camera app to work.
I'm not sure if this will work because I don't have a OnePlus 3T phone on hand (I am planning on getting one though), so this hasn't been tested. These files are stock files and unmodified. From what I've read as long as the frameworks are available, the APK files should function, so if anyone would like to test these out and report back to let me know how it works I would appreciate it.
Recommendations:
Just to cover all bases, I do recommend everyone to make a backup of their system. This archive won't make any changes to your system outside of installing the stock samsung camera app, but I don't want to be responsible for any issues if something stops working for you.
I don't foresee anything causing any trouble because if this doesn't work, you can just uninstall it like any other app and remove the *jar files and everything should be fine.
Here are the steps:
1. Extract the archive file. (you should see a readme.txt, SamsungCamera4.apk, and a system folder)
2. Install the "SamsungCamera4.apk" file like any other app (Don't open it up yet after you install it)
3. In the system\framework folder of this archive, you will see a bunch of *.jar files. You need to move those into the .\system\framework folder on your phone. (These are required libraries for the APK to work properly)
You can do this using an app like "Root Browser", but you NEED to be rooted for this to work.
4. After you copy the jar files over, reboot your phone.
5. (Optional) When your phone powers back on, try and clear the cache for your camera app.
6. Try and run the Samsung Camera app on your phone.
I hope this will work out on this phone, because I would really like to see a better camera option for such a great phone!
Let me know what you find!
Extracted the apk and doesn't install.
Do you get any errors? If so, what is the error?
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Do you get any errors? If so, what is the error?
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I installed it as a system app because it can't be installed normally (package appears to be corrupted) and installed all frameworks with rw-r-r.
When I open the app, it flashes black for half a second and then closes
Dang, okay. Let me look into this and see what I can do. When you tried installing it as a regular app, did it say it's not compatible or anything came up?
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Dang, okay. Let me look into this and see what I can do. When you tried installing it as a regular app, did it say it's not compatible or anything came up?
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I would like to be optimistic but if it was possible someone would have done it ages ago. You should be able to port from one Samsung to another as the frameworks are similar but you would need to build it from the source (i.e. build the app yourself from scratch) to have it working on Oneplus 3t and the source code is not open I believe.
You would have better chances at tweaking stock camera than porting Samsung's
Yeah, I might need to look into it a bit further. I was being optimistic and hopeful. I mean, I get that the hardware is specific to the device, but I don't see why a camera like Samsung's camera app couldn't be ported for all Android devices. After all Android is built off the same base platform.
Thanks for at least giving it a try. I think I will go and order my OnePlus 3T when I get home from work, then I'll be able to do more trial and error on my own as well!
Thanks for the attempts guys!
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Yeah, I might need to look into it a bit further. I was being optimistic and hopeful. I mean, I get that the hardware is specific to the device, but I don't see why a camera like Samsung's camera app couldn't be ported for all Android devices. After all Android is built off the same base platform.
Thanks for at least giving it a try. I think I will go and order my OnePlus 3T when I get home from work, then I'll be able to do more trial and error on my own as well!
Thanks for the attempts guys!
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Good luck in testing this once you get your phone but I doubt that you'll be able to port Samsung camera to Oneplus 3t. I think better idea would be working on the stock camera and improving the algorithms and post processing there.
If you get stuck and need experts view on your ideas or help with the code ask the greatest camera developer defcomg for help as he with his expertise will be able to assist you where possible
Thanks! I was actually looking at some other apps in the playstore that are considered "high def camera" apps. I know that a lot of the quality in pictures is based on the hardware itself, however I also know that the software is what drives the hardware to work the way it works. I mean, granted the specs of the camera might not be the same as Samsung's, but a 16mp camera should be pretty darn good quality nonetheless.
Has anyone played around with any of the other camera apps?
I know someone here tried the stock android\google camera. What about one of these?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
I realize some of these are paid apps, and I'll look into it once my phone comes in as well. I definitely think there is opportunity for some optimization to make the camera a little better based off everyone's feedback about it.
This is a good initiative to improve the software side of the camera. I know sultanxda has his own hals in his ROMs but I find stock oxygen ROM to have better images and videos with less distortion.
All the luck for your attempt. If you're able to tidy up the algorithms ,it's gonna improve the camera for sure.
Crossing fingers.
That being said, what camera hal version is the sammy cam? But even if it´s the same, I belive you have to build a wrapper to shim the sammy function calls to the qcom camera hal... Good luck!
Propably logs (logcat and dmesg) from the crashing camera app would be usefull.
Bah, unfortunately it seems like I got ahead of myself. I did a little bit more looking into this, and it looks like the SamsungCamera app is actually using a custom SDK, so it doesn't follow the same practice your other universal apps use. Apparently SamsungCamera uses some more low-level technique that doesn't utilize HAL.
Hey Guy's
Have you tried Google Camera? You can get this on apkmirror.
Cheers
Right, it's like I suggested in one of my previous posts. There seem to be a few high def camera apps available across all android platforms which might be a great alternative. I'm not sure, but it's worth a look and test.
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Hey Guy's
Have you tried Google Camera? You can get this on apkmirror.
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I tried Google camera and it crashes every time I open the app.. Any insight?
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I tried Google camera and it crashes every time I open the app.. Any insight?
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Use the link from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...oogle-camera-4-2-035-141213305-t3531566/page1
Last post I think. First one doesn't work.
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Use the link from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...oogle-camera-4-2-035-141213305-t3531566/page1
Last post I think. First one doesn't work.
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Same result
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Use the link from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...oogle-camera-4-2-035-141213305-t3531566/page1
Last post I think. First one doesn't work.
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Having tried numerous Google camera versions unfortunately none of them give us the same controls (no HDR+, burst mode which no one uses ) that would give to Nexus line users as this is limited to just Google phones. If HDR+ worked on Oneplus 3T it would give the results that Pixel users get and since Samsung camera app is no-go as expected I think working on Google camera app to unlock HDR+ that Google/Pixel phones get would probably be the only solution to improve the results on OP3T.
@m0d hipp¥ can you port or arrange samsung Gallery app for Oneplus 3T???
It will be a great help bro

PETITION for: CAMERA API2 Support, lets try!

We want ZTE to add Camera Api2 support for Axon 7
why do we want it? it is easy to add! and axon 7 supports it, But is not enabled by ZTE yet.
"Camera API 2.0 is New API which allowing you much better camera control by camera apps and also increase the performance of camera.
Camera API 2.0 is fast enough to take advantage of the full resolution of the sensor at 30 fps-burst mode. This means HDR or other such computational photography should be much "cheaper" to do on Android devices. The new API also allows for much more fine-grained control of the sensor, lens and flash per individual frame".
https://www.change.org/p/zte-camera-api2-support-for-axon-7
Great idea!
In the same time would be write to send a petition
About stock player improvements or api for the sound libraries.
We have No useable player since release that fully utilizing the DAC....
What do you think?
Androowner said:
Great idea!
In the same time would be write to send a petition
About stock player improvements or api for the sound libraries.
We have No useable player since release that fully utilizing the DAC....
What do you think?
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I'd rather have them do it like it is done on LOS based roms ie only AKM dac is used.
Androowner said:
Great idea!
In the same time would be write to send a petition
About stock player improvements or api for the sound libraries.
We have No useable player since release that fully utilizing the DAC....
What do you think?
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Isn't neutron/aimp using it?
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Isn't neutron/aimp using it?
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On listening tests, neutron NOT. AIMP not tested A/B yet.
Neutron sounds differently that stock player on all settings.
I have wrote to developer, but no reply yet.
Also wrote to N7 player develeper, how he do that,
because it is the closest sounding to the Stock player. I can't say that it's exaclty same, but it is a good news listening on hiend monitor speakers or Sony headphones.
Neutron messing up the sound, and goes up until 48khz.
Thank you for the reply.
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I'd rather have them do it like it is done on LOS based roms ie only AKM dac is used.
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I'm on stock chinese v2.0 b13, no other custom ROM tested yet. Would be great to do A/B test with between theese two roms, but rooting custom ROM is tricky, becuase of guarantiee. I'm afraid that any problem on unlocking the phone and anything goes wrong I could no live without this phone even one day
(I could record the same sound to hi end recorders from each ROM and compare them in studio quality tests, it's not problem for me from the sound perspective, but "bricking axe" is always above us
Well how about we add --" DAC on/off "-- function toggle? for general use off, for some hi-fi moments you can turn it on, to use the very capable DAC.
What do you say? ( the more attention this matter gets, The more likely it will be taken into consideration and approved, and added .
Cheers!
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Well how about we add --" DAC on/off "-- function toggle? for general use off, for some hi-fi moments you can turn it on, to use the very capable DAC.
What do you say? ( the more attention this matter gets, The more likely it will be taken into consideration and approved, and added .
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That already exists and is a quick settings toggle on MiFavor 5. On MiFavor 4 it is under Sound - Hi-Fi
Did you guys actually buy this phone for the camera? I thought that it was literally the worst part of the phone.
Nothing wrong with wanting it though, if we can get the better camera api I'm all with you, but it seems fruitless for this phone unless someone can figure out how to update the firmware for our phones. I doubt ZTE will update ours until the axon 8.
TL/DR: I participated in the petition, but don't expect anything they never work. You should go over to the ZTE forums and try to request it there
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Did you guys actually buy this phone for the camera? I thought that it was literally the worst part of the phone.
Nothing wrong with wanting it though, if we can get the better camera api I'm all with you, but it seems fruitless for this phone unless someone can figure out how to update the firmware for our phones. I doubt ZTE will update ours until the axon 8.
TL/DR: I participated in the petition, but don't expect anything they never work. You should go over to the ZTE forums and try to request it there
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Done, On usa community and on European too.
Thing is, Next ZTE hero device will try to be better in this area.
3rd party apps go a long way making things better

Why are we working on Oreo???

Why are we working on android Oreo? Should we try to perfect Nougat first. I see this so much with other devices, instead of having a few perfect roms you have a ton of half baked ones.
I'm running this device on Oreo and it works perfectly well for my needs. Its not my day to day tablet, but as a backup tablet, its there when I need it and does what I need it to. Why wouldn't they work on Oreo? There's no such thing as a perfect rom and nobody is ever going to make one due to limitations in hardware and open source drivers etc....
Personally, I'm happy that they have brought the latest incarnation of Android to this device and look forward to watching it improve with each new release.
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I'm running this device on Oreo and it works perfectly well for my needs. Its not my day to day tablet, but as a backup tablet, its there when I need it and does what I need it to. Why wouldn't they work on Oreo? There's no such thing as a perfect rom and nobody is ever going to make one due to limitations in hardware and open source drivers etc....
Personally, I'm happy that they have brought the latest incarnation of Android to this device and look forward to watching it improve with each new release.
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>No such thing as a perfect rom
what are you talking about? Nougat on my RAZR M (just as old as the Nexus 10) runs flawlessly, and everything functions, so yes, there is such a thing as a perfect rom (or at least one with minimal bugs)
Most all roms have all functions on my ancient OG Nexus 7 (albeit a bit slow)
>Running oreo
HW video playback doesn't work, so no youtube app or netflix
Camera is still broken (some people need it for conference calls and hangouts chats)
--flash is broken too (you usually don't need it, but for those few situations you do, this is quite annoying)
Bluetooth wifi bug persists (turning on bluetooth and connecting a device makes wifi slow down and then disconnect)
My point is that we shouldn't just ditch/give up on fixing old bugs just to pursue a newer version of android. I'd rather run stable and fast Nougat than a half baked Oreo or Nougat build any day.
I know development is hard (my build set up errors out like no other) but that is just the reason we need to fix these things before wasting our time on something that will be harder to fix.
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>No such thing as a perfect rom
what are you talking about? Nougat on my RAZR M (just as old as the Nexus 10) runs flawlessly, and everything functions, so yes, there is such a thing as a perfect rom (or at least one with minimal bugs)
Most all roms have all functions on my ancient OG Nexus 7 (albeit a bit slow)
>Running oreo
HW video playback doesn't work, so no youtube app or netflix
Camera is still broken (some people need it for conference calls and hangouts chats)
--flash is broken too (you usually don't need it, but for those few situations you do, this is quite annoying)
Bluetooth wifi bug persists (turning on bluetooth and connecting a device makes wifi slow down and then disconnect)
My point is that we shouldn't just ditch/give up on fixing old bugs just to pursue a newer version of android. I'd rather run stable and fast Nougat than a half baked Oreo or Nougat build any day.
I know development is hard (my build set up errors out like no other) but that is just the reason we need to fix these things before wasting our time on something that will be harder to fix.
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If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you.
The Devs. which are still supporting the N10 said that they are not specialists for the open issues like camera, so they can't fix it. We should be happy that they try to make the best rom which they are capable and motivated for Nougat/Oreo etc.
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If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you.
The Devs. which are still supporting the N10 said that they are not specialists for the open issues like camera, so they can't fix it. We should be happy that they try to make the best rom which they are capable and motivated for Nougat/Oreo etc.
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>making the best rom which they are capable
they aren't though, that's my point. They are slowly moving on to building oreo instead of trying to fix nougat which would both be easier and more beneficial to the community.
>If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you
I obviously don't (not that I'm not trying to), and part of my point is that the people who are the most competent (not competent, just the most competent, if you know what I mean) would get on the camera fix choo choo train, we could probably have a fix sooner rather than never.
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>making the best rom which they are capable
they aren't though, that's my point. They are slowly moving on to building oreo instead of trying to fix nougat which would both be easier and more beneficial to the community.
>If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you
I obviously don't (not that I'm not trying to), and part of my point is that the people who are the most competent (not competent, just the most competent, if you know what I mean) would get on the camera fix choo choo train, we could probably have a fix sooner rather than never.
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Got your point. Nevertheless if the developers are not willing or capable doesn't matter. It's their decision and they owe us nothing. If you read the different threads each dev. said why he didn't fix e.g. camera.
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Got your point. Nevertheless if the developers are not willing or capable doesn't matter. It's their decision and they owe us nothing. If you read the different threads each dev. said why he didn't fix e.g. camera.
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link me, I have been looking for explanations on the camera for ages now. I didn't know if it was a problem with the Exynos framework for the camera or Nougat/Oreo themselves.
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link me, I have been looking for explanations on the camera for ages now. I didn't know if it was a problem with the Exynos framework for the camera or Nougat/Oreo themselves.
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Sorry my friend I will not read all posts of the last roms and why scanno, followmsi and the others are not fixing the open topics like camera, etc. That's your job. And if it is still not clear for you, you can ask the last active dev. (followmsi). he just pointed out today why he will not do so. Just read the posts around N10.
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link me, I have been looking for explanations on the camera for ages now. I didn't know if it was a problem with the Exynos framework for the camera or Nougat/Oreo themselves.
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Marshmallow is the last version of Android where everything works right on the Nexus 10. I don't have links but from everything I have seen/read, the devs can't do anything about the camera after Marshmallow. Google isn't giving the devs anything to work with anymore so stuff has to be ported or fixed by the devs alone. And I do beleive it has something to do with the hardware. But as it stands, Nougat is pretty flawless except for the camera. And Oreo is getting worked on to fix the HW Video Playback and other bugs which I'm sure they'll get fixed eventually. But most of the issues lie with the hardware. There's nothing much any dev can do about certain bugs. At this point, it's either live with the bugs or move on from the Nexus 10.
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Marshmallow is the last version of Android where everything works right on the Nexus 10. I don't have links but from everything I have seen/read, the devs can't do anything about the camera after Marshmallow. Google isn't giving the devs anything to work with anymore so stuff has to be ported or fixed by the devs alone. And I do beleive it has something to do with the hardware. But as it stands, Nougat is pretty flawless except for the camera. And Oreo is getting worked on to fix the HW Video Playback and other bugs which I'm sure they'll get fixed eventually. But most of the issues lie with the hardware. There's nothing much any dev can do about certain bugs. At this point, it's either live with the bugs or move on from the Nexus 10.
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I'll probably live with the bugs for a bit, I don't use the camera much, but when I do, its REALLY convenient. Marshmallow works great, and worst case I sell my N10 and grab a Nexus 9
Galaxyninja66 said:
I'll probably live with the bugs for a bit, I don't use the camera much, but when I do, its REALLY convenient. Marshmallow works great, and worst case I sell my N10 and grab a Nexus 9
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Yeah, don't get a nexus 9. Oreo has the same problems (no h/w video decoding, no camera) on N9. I've pretty much given up on Android tablets (I own 4, Touchpad, N10, N9 and Amazon Fire w/ LineageOS), it looks like google has too.
funkybrunk said:
Yeah, don't get a nexus 9. Oreo has the same problems (no h/w video decoding, no camera) on N9. I've pretty much given up on Android tablets (I own 4, Touchpad, N10, N9 and Amazon Fire w/ LineageOS), it looks like google has too.
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I can't, I love android tablets. They are a blast to use, and I use them much more often than my phone. To each their own, but frankly Google can suck it if they think people will stop using tablets.
The point is thet when android 8 wil works on nexus 10 all newer androids will work to thanks to project treble.
source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
sagu55 said:
The point is thet when android 8 wil works on nexus 10 all newer androids will work to thanks to project treble.
source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
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iirc project treble was only for devices shipping with oreo out of the box, and was only a requirement, i.e. you must have a compatible AOSP factory image that is compatible with other treble devices (which doesn't count the N10 as it shipped with 4.2). I'll give that link a read but I as far as I currently know it doesn't support the N10
@Galaxyninja66 to fix the camera you need to port the old api1 camera to nougat/Oreo.
The api2 camera code was removed entirely from Android, that's why the camera stopped working.
The reason nobody is working on this is because it takes a lot of time to do that and none of the active devs even use the camera
tetsuo55 said:
@Galaxyninja66 to fix the camera you need to port the old api1 camera to nougat/Oreo.
The api2 camera code was removed entirely from Android, that's why the camera stopped working.
The reason nobody is working on this is because it takes a lot of time to do that and none of the active devs even use the camera
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I also noticed while poking around in the camera HAL that a TON of values were just missing entirely. I would love a working camera but frankly it doesn't seem worth the work if it means either A: porting a deprecated API or B: rebuilding an entirely new one
*sigh* and the layer of dust on top of the Nexus 10 gets a little thicker.
Everyone else is doable tho
considering what an excellent tablet the Nexus was in its brief heyday, this is all very depressing! I really hate how valuable devices can be turned into landfill so gratuitously...

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