Which sensor is the Axon using? All we know so far is a 20MP ISOCELL sensor, but not even a part number. Easiest way to find out would be for someone with the device to download AIDA64 and go to the Devices screen. To anyone who does, thanks in advance!
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Which sensor is the Axon using? All we know so far is a 20MP ISOCELL sensor, but not even a part number. Easiest way to find out would be for someone with the device to download AIDA64 and go to the Devices screen. To anyone who does, thanks in advance!
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I'm not seeing anything. Is there something else I can try?
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I'm not seeing anything. Is there something else I can try?
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Did you enable camera permissions?
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Did you enable camera permissions?
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Had to do it manually in app settings. ????
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Had to do it manually in app settings. ????
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Whoops doesnt seem like it's recognized by S/W yet. Thanks for your effort though.
@peramikic posted on the ZTE forum (referenced in the last post at the bottom of this page) that the kernel source identifies the sensor as S5K2T8. Samsung doesn't list that on their site as a mass-produced sensor for purchase, but Truly Semiconductors does.
I posted the same on the ZTE forums, but the best guess is that's a 20MP variant of the S5K2P8, which is a 1/2.6" ISOCELL sensor with 16MP. Wikipedia lists the P8 as the only (mainstream) Samsung sensor never used in a Samsung phone. It is, however, found in the Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro. Take Wikipedia as a source as you will, but the Z2 Pro forum on XDA mentions the P8 sensor.
I was under the impression that Samsung doesn't sell the sensors it makes for its own use to other companies, though I could be wrong. If that's the case, though, it would make sense that they crammed 20MP on what was previously a 16MP sensor and sold it to ZTE, allowing ZTE to claim that the Axon 7 uses a Samsung sensor was made specifically for ZTE.
The question is why Samsung never used the P8. They produce the S5K2P2, which is nearly identical and found in the S5, S6, and Note 5.
It makes sense that it's a 16MP sensor "expanded" to 20MP.
A few days ago I noticed something weird: using the devcheck app, I remember dividing the sensor size by the number of pixels would give me 1.1um in one direction and 1.45um in the other. I guess we would get a square pixel size if the did the calculation with a 4/3 ratio rather than a 16/9 ratio
Thanks for the great info. Why wouldn't they just let people know the sensor ?
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@peramikic posted on the ZTE forum (referenced in the last post at the bottom of this page) that the kernel source identifies the sensor as S5K2T8. Samsung doesn't list that on their site as a mass-produced sensor for purchase, but Truly Semiconductors does.
I posted the same on the ZTE forums, but the best guess is that's a 20MP variant of the S5K2P8, which is a 1/2.6" ISOCELL sensor with 16MP. Wikipedia lists the P8 as the only (mainstream) Samsung sensor never used in a Samsung phone. It is, however, found in the Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro. Take Wikipedia as a source as you will, but the Z2 Pro forum on XDA mentions the P8 sensor.
I was under the impression that Samsung doesn't sell the sensors it makes for its own use to other companies, though I could be wrong. If that's the case, though, it would make sense that they crammed 20MP on what was previously a 16MP sensor and sold it to ZTE, allowing ZTE to claim that the Axon 7 uses a Samsung sensor was made specifically for ZTE.
The question is why Samsung never used the P8. They produce the S5K2P2, which is nearly identical and found in the S5, S6, and Note 5.
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I believe the rumor is they were testing it for the S7 and then dropped in favor for whatever they ended up using in that line. It would make sense that they would have a bunch ready to get rid of for cheap, or just to recoup any R&D by selling it to someone who still wanted it.
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Any number of reasons, though none I can think of seem good enough not to say, exactly, what the module is. Maybe some caveat with being able to say "custom-made by Samsung for ZTE"?
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I believe the rumor is they were testing it for the S7 and then dropped in favor for whatever they ended up using in that line. It would make sense that they would have a bunch ready to get rid of for cheap, or just to recoup any R&D by selling it to someone who still wanted it.
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I know that was a popular theory early on and it may very well be true. AFAIK, they don't have any other sensors with the "T" notation, so it could be the BRITECELL. IIRC, Samsung did say that it was a 20MP sensor with 1.0µm pixels and utilizing phase detection.
And it's entirely possible that Samsung abandoned the idea (RWB) for the same reason Motorola abandoned "Clear Pixel" (RGBC) and Sony abandoned RGBW: image quality issues. Or maybe they want to see what ZTE does with it. Who knows.
So some more tidbits from the kernel, here are all the possible mfgs for the sensor module apparently, with their ID codes
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_SUNNY 0x01
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_TRULY 0x02
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_A_KERR 0x03
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_LITEARRAY 0x04
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_DARLING 0x05
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_QTECH 0x06
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_OFLIM 0x07
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_FOXCONN 0x11
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_IMPORTEK 0x12
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_ALTEK 0x13
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_ABICO 0x14
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_LITE_ON 0x15
#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_SEMCO 0xA1
MODULE_Map_Table S5K2T8_MODULE_MAP[] = {
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_SUNNY, "sunny_s5k2t8","sunny_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_TRULY, "truly_s5k2t8","truly_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_A_KERR, "a_kerr_s5k2t8","a_kerr_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_LITEARRAY, "litearray_s5k2t8","litearray_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_DARLING, "darling_s5k2t8","darling_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_QTECH, "qtech_s5k2t8","qtech_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_OFLIM, "oflim_s5k2t8","oflim_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_FOXCONN, "foxconn_s5k2t8","foxconn_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_IMPORTEK, "importek_s5k2t8","importek_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_ALTEK, "altek_s5k2t8","altek_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_ABICO, "abico_s5k2t8","abico_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_LITE_ON, "lite_on_s5k2t8","lite_on_s5k2t8",NULL},
{ S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_SEMCO, "semco_s5k2t8","semco_s5k2t8",NULL},
};
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It makes sense that it's a 16MP sensor "expanded" to 20MP.
A few days ago I noticed something weird: using the devcheck app, I remember dividing the sensor size by the number of pixels would give me 1.1um in one direction and 1.45um in the other. I guess we would get a square pixel size if the did the calculation with a 4/3 ratio rather than a 16/9 ratio
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What is the sensor size reported by dev check?
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#define S5K2T8_SENSOR_INFO_MODULE_ID_TRULY 0x02
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Welp, there's Truly!
This is new territory for me; I didn't realize the kernel was written like that (identifying multiple manufacturers). Why is that done? Do they use different...drivers?
And so, just out of curiosity, if ZTE were to change the camera module in the future, I assume it would just be an added line (or lines) with that module information? Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting they will or that it's even that simple, but from an identification standpoint, is that all that's necessary?
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What is the sensor size reported by dev check?
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6.47mm x 4.87mm
5952px x 3348px
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6.47mm x 4.87mm
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The sensor seems to be a 4:3 but the native 20MP res is 16:9. That means there is 30% of the sensor that is not used and this is actually a 30+MP sensor. The pixel pitch is 1.08 on width, but isocell has that pixel issolation so the pixel width is most likely 1um. that would make the sensor 31.5MP in full res... if pixels are square
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Welp, there's Truly!
This is new territory for me; I didn't realize the kernel was written like that (identifying multiple manufacturers). Why is that done? Do they use different...drivers?
And so, just out of curiosity, if ZTE were to change the camera module in the future, I assume it would just be an added line (or lines) with that module information? Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting they will or that it's even that simple, but from an identification standpoint, is that all that's necessary?
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EEPROM mapping and to allow for different lens correction profiles and such. Each manufacturer would have a calibration correction so they can all be standardized in QA. Now truly having a camera module that is f2 but 6 element lens kinda makes sense, they probably could not fit an extra element without a larger bump to keep the f1.8
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The sensor seems to be a 4:3 but the native 20MP res is 16:9. That means there is 30% of the sensor that is not used and this is actually a 30+MP sensor. The pixel pitch is 1.08 on width, but isocell has that pixel issolation so the pixel width is most likely 1um. that would make the sensor 31.5MP in full res... if pixels are square
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That's...weird.
makes no sense, it would make the sensor on the 1" form type be 1/3.2 and not 1/2.6. I think the values devcheck is reading are not right or pixel is not square
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makes no sense, it would make the sensor on the 1" form type be 1/3.2 and not 1/2.6. I think the values devcheck is reading are not right or pixel is not square
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How common are non-square pixels? I wouldn't think very common.
I think iFixit tear down should reveal this info more definitively instead of guess work...
mjoshi123 said:
I think iFixit tear down should reveal this info more definitively instead of guess work...
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Is iFixit doing a tear-down?
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Is iFixit doing a tear-down?
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They have done in past for other devices, so hoping Axon 7 also gets same TLC
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This is the biggest motivation on my side to buy Vibrant to be frank. I am a casual developer and would like to write some acc+gyro related application on my own phone.
As far as I know, Vibrant has 6 axis motion sensor, which should be 3 axis acc + 3 axis Gyro if I didn't misunderstand it. However, I can not get any information from internet about what's the model the sensor is, and I'm not sure if this sensor is of exact function as acc+gyro. So if anybody happened to know such kind of information, please share it, my purchase decision would be definitely based on this.
Thanks!
If I remember correctly it is actually a 6-axis accelerometer. It gives you angular acceleration instead of angular velocity, which has it's goods and it's bads.
Thanks Lutin
I'm not sure if it's Gyro or not. There are two posts can be referred
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712303
http://fonefrenzy.com/2010/06/28/samsungs-galaxy-has-a-gyroscope-like-the-iphone-4/
Based on what I saw, I guess most people are still confused about its type. This is why I was wondering if anybody knows the actual model by chance
There's no gyroscope in Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate, Epic,...
just triaxial accelerometer from Bosch and triaxial geomagnetic sensor from Yamaha
Exactly the same sensor set with Galaxy S UK and Asian version.
Are you sure? This is totally different from what them claimed. They said they have something other than just digital compass
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Are you sure? This is totally different from what them claimed. They said they have something other than just digital compass
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100%, sir.
I own both Galaxy S UK and Vibrant
I used some different software and *#*#0*#*#* code to check on both devices. I'm not surprised to realize that there's no gyroscope.
But the Yamaha geomagnetic is superior to almost every smart phones on the market right now (bi-axis). It's a tri-axis sensor.
I suppose that the combination of tri-axis geomagnetic sensor and tri-axis acceleration sensor will be equal to gyros + accele in iphone 4
Sorry for my English.
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100%, sir.
I own both Galaxy S UK and Vibrant
I used some different software and *#*#0*#*#* code to check on both devices. I'm not surprised to realize that there's no gyroscope.
But the Yamaha geomagnetic is superior to almost every smart phones on the market right now (bi-axis). It's a tri-axis sensor.
I suppose that the combination of tri-axis geomagnetic sensor and tri-axis acceleration sensor will be equal to gyros + accele in iphone 4
Sorry for my English.
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thanks man, you saved me a lot of time!
I played with one Vibrant today and yeah, it's magnetic sensor. But it performs basically the same as Gyro, just will be affected by the metal thing.
I have no idea how good it would be in real use and I am still thinking if I should give it a shot.
Hey All,
Been trying to find detailed specs of main camera as Samsung only said it has OIS in their keynote. Lol.
Please help by posting max iso, aperture, f. Sensor size etc.
My Z2 overheating issues is starting to bug me so looking to go back to note line after note 3 camera sucked! Hoping Note 4 is better than S5.
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Hey All,
Been trying to find detailed specs of main camera as Samsung only said it has OIS in their keynote. Lol.
Please help by posting max iso, aperture, f. Sensor size etc.
My Z2 overheating issues is starting to bug me so looking to go back to note line after note 3 camera sucked! Hoping Note 4 is better than S5.
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Pretty slim pickings so far but I did find this
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Pretty slim pickings so far but I did find this
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It's a 4.8mm lens with f/2.2 aperture, OIS, 16 MP camera. I based these specs on the exif data of a sample picture. Samsung has not confirmed anything about the sensor, although it is suspected that it is by Sony. Not much more is known at this time.
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It's a 4.8mm lens with f/2.2 aperture, OIS, 16 MP camera. I based these specs on the exif data of a sample picture. Samsung has not confirmed anything about the sensor, although it is suspected that it is by Sony. Not much more is known at this time.
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get photo make with help Note4, then PUMa - Tools - Camera with this photo and have information about module & sensor
It uses Sony imx240 sensor afaik
Why are samsung not releasing info?
Thanks for all comments but this is weird English - The Galaxy Note 4 comes with a 16MP 1/2.6” size sensor with f2.0 aperture lens. This is not the same module as on the Galaxy S5 though. Did they mean it is the same module?
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It uses Sony imx240 sensor afaik
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How do you know for sure?
because he saw it on the internet so it must be true
ipmanwck said:
Why are samsung not releasing info?
Thanks for all comments but this is weird English - The Galaxy Note 4 comes with a 16MP 1/2.6” size sensor with f2.0 aperture lens. This is not the same module as on the Galaxy S5 though. Did they mean it is the same module?
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The aperture is wrong in that article. There are sample photographs out there you can download and then examine the exif data. That will confirm that the aperture is f/2.2 and the lens is 4.8mm. Exactly as Galaxy S5.
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The aperture is wrong in that article. There are sample photographs out there you can download and then examine the exif data. That will confirm that the aperture is f/2.2 and the lens is 4.8mm. Exactly as Galaxy S5.
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Thought as much. That's the reason samsung didn't release info as they knew they would be hammered grouping some camera tech!
Not asking much just a decent spec camera? At least S5 takes good pics in general just same Sammy low light fail (indoor)
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Thought as much. That's the reason samsung didn't release info as they knew they would be hammered grouping some camera tech! y
Not asking much just a decent spec camera? At least S5 takes good pics in general just same Sammy low light fail (indoor)
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The Note 4 may do better in low light however if they have incorporated a Sony sensor. OIS should help as well. There are other things that could be different too like ISO, and shutter speed, So I am curious to see how this thing will do in low light.
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The Note 4 may do better in low light however if they have incorporated a Sony sensor. OIS should help as well. There are other things that could be different too like ISO, and shutter speed, So I am curious to see how this thing will do in low light.
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Well it was believed to be the Sony sensor. However the Lenovo Vibe Z2 released with a 16MP OIS Samsung made ISOCELL camera sensor leads to believe Samsung used their own ISOCELL sensor in the Note 4.
And released samples show a lot of improvement in low light compared to past Samsung devices. Even the S5.
And the OIS video test compared to the S5 makes an immediate huge difference. And the S5's video without OIS was already outstanding. So the detail or better of the S5 with OIS to clear up more detail and stabilize it.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/01/galaxy-note-4-camera-vibe-z2
On the german Samsung-Site it looks like the rear camera will have only f/2.4 aperture
cyber-junkie said:
On the german Samsung-Site it looks like the rear camera will have only f/2.4 aperture
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do not believe the sites, believe your eyes
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Well it was believed to be the Sony sensor. However the Lenovo Vibe Z2 released with a 16MP OIS Samsung made ISOCELL camera sensor leads to believe Samsung used their own ISOCELL sensor in the Note 4.
And released samples show a lot of improvement in low light compared to past Samsung devices. Even the S5.
And the OIS video test compared to the S5 makes an immediate huge difference. And the S5's video without OIS was already outstanding. So the detail or better of the S5 with OIS to clear up more detail and stabilize it.
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I thought it was already confirmed to be a Sony IMX240 sensor?
Sammobile is usually on point - can't post links yet, but google "Exclusive: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Camera Features – 16MP, Side Touch, Wide Selfie, and much more." See below for quote.
According to our sources, Samsung is equipping the Galaxy Note 4 with a 16-megapixel Sony IMX240 camera sensor on the back with optical image stabilization (OIS), which is capable of shooting UHD (3840×2160) video at 30FPS. This isn’t the first time Samsung is using the IMX240 camera sensor - Samsung has used the exact same sensor in the Korean Galaxy S5 Broadband LTE-A (SM-G906S/L/K), however it lacked optical image stabilization (OIS)
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Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
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the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...
Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.
It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.
I was responding to the OP, though.
Sent from my X98 Air II (HG9N)
I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?
I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).
Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?
If a decent developer community forms and this gets the ability to work on Verizon then I'm sold. But I have to hold out hopes that the Mi5 progress keeps advancing and can easily translate to this device.
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Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?
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Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
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Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
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Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.
Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!
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Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.
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Well, sadly enough that the imx378's sensor is large and I assumed that is why the dual camera setup with that sensor is not achievable.
Same goes to OIS, most probably due to sensor size issues. (Pixel phones have no OIS thou)
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hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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Where did you ordered from?
Well, just wait for developers to get their hands on the device~
Device is just too new
hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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So how is your experience with Xiaomi Mi5s?
toffzter said:
Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?
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From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.
gnazio said:
From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.
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So I guess it will result to much clearer pictures and lesser noise compared to the single color camera. That's nice. :good:
EMJI79 said:
No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!
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Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS
Xziting said:
Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS
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You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]
EMJI79 said:
You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]
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Yep it can do bokeh effect
Wow great! [emoji1]
I saw a screenshot on eu.miui.
Would have bought it if it were sold with that when it came out. Now I have bought a Sony. Probably will wait for the Mi Note Pro 2.
Maybe some would want to post photo samples with the latest ROM?
EMJI79 said:
Maybe some would want to post photo samples with the latest ROM?
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I have it and for me there's 2 things that I don't like. MIUI 8 , I'm a stock Android guy I hope somebody bring cm or something like this to this mobile and the other thing it's the camera, it's a camera for me from the beginning of 2015, that perform well in optimal light conditions and in low light even with the stereo option it's not very well.
Conclusion, I'm not a photo guy so there's no problem but I can't support miui even that it runs fast in this mobile. So until we have some development to this mobile I'm going to stay whit my axon 7.
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EMJI79 said:
Maybe some would want to post photo samples with the latest ROM?
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Optimal light conditions interior and low light outside
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Don't you like taking photos during daylight?
Yes I do , but almost every 2105/2016 phone does nice or ok photos in daylight.
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Hello, I am really in doubt on which one to buy. My real interest is about the camera : I haven't found a single comparison between the Samsung and the Sony cameras of the two devices. Do the photos of the pro version really justify the 100+$ of difference and the missing b20 band? Right now I have a redm note 3 Pro and it's perfect for my everyday needs, so a super SoC or a lot of ram would probably be wasted as I don't play at all with my phone. Any advice? Thanks!
paraponzi said:
Hello, I am really in doubt on which one to buy. My real interest is about the camera : I haven't found a single comparison between the Samsung and the Sony cameras of the two devices. Do the photos of the pro version really justify the 100+$ of difference and the missing b20 band? Right now I have a redm note 3 Pro and it's perfect for my everyday needs, so a super SoC or a lot of ram would probably be wasted as I don't play at all with my phone. Any advice? Thanks!
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I'm also curious. I watched hundereds of comparisons and from what i understood the sony sensor offers better dynamic range and sharpness. Depth of field (background blur) is same due to same sensor size.
By not a higher margin btw.
GTRanushka said:
I'm also curious. I watched hundereds of comparisons and from what i understood the sony sensor offers better dynamic range and sharpness. Depth of field (background blur) is same due to same sensor size.
By not a higher margin btw.
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Do you have link??? I would like to see results. And also Gcam results, if it is not only in app.