Should I buy the YotaPhone 2? - YotaPhone

Hello people,
Is it a good idea to get the YotaPhone 2 these days? Or is it too old?
I guess performance wise It'd be fine because it has Snapdragon 800, but I assume the battery life won't be good, because of it's age, especially 1 year from now.
What do you think?
Thanks

I'm roughly six months into using mine as a daily driver, w/ 5.0, and battery life is fine, comparable to what I was getting w/ my n6 (which has a larger battery, but also a larger screen, so evens out). On days when I make extensive use of the epd screen (outdoor work, reading in the park, etc), I get even better. So I'd call it a decent buy.
The one proviso is network speed, if you're somewhere where its bands support the local lte, awesome. I can live with hspa, personally, but it still nags at me from time to time (wishing I had lte).

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Battery Life?

curious to see what kind of battery life people are getting on average with their phones? im pretty happy with the life im getting but after reading what some other people are getting it puts mine to shame!
how many hours are you guys getting under how much load and which kernel/rom/mods do you have?
I too am interested in this.. maybe you could post your stats, I have no time atm.
My unrooted n1 battery is poor
unrooted N1, average use 3G, Wifi, some surfing, living wallpaper; about 5%/ hour -> 20 hours. Assume as acceptable, about one day of use; better than my Iphone used to be (worse than Hero 1.6 was)..
Mine is not rooted and the battery life is either less or on par with the iPhone. Only use beautiful weather widget as well as the default news one. It's relatively new so I'm hoping it improves after a few charges, definitely considering picking up another battery.
digital bliss said:
Mine is not rooted and the battery life is either less or on par with the iPhone. Only use beautiful weather widget as well as the default news one. It's relatively new so I'm hoping it improves after a few charges, definitely considering picking up another battery.
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you don't need another battery. just tune up your N1 correctly. Use either Wifi or 3g preferably when available. Use push rather than scheduled sync. Leave brightness down to minimum, you will only need more when you are outside.
Connections & screen usage take biggest part of your battery life.
I heard also some people who by pressing *#*#4636#*#* selected "WCDMA only" as preferred network so phone doesn't try to swap to 2g when there is no 3g. Changes between networks drain battery very fast. Let's say for example while traveling by car.
As well I have to say that last generation mobile phones have to be charged once per day. I consider that normal. Come on most of us play around, surf website, take pics and upload them to facebook, etc several times along the day.
I have the UV kernel and I think it does extend battery life. The first day I had it it lasted for 18 and a half hours with a fairly normal use: GTalk, browsing, camera, market downloads, gps, etc.
I do want to mention for those who are comparing their battery life to their iPhone's that there's nothing to compare, as there's absolutely no hardware equivalences. You just can't compare a 600MHz processor to a 1000GHz one, as well as larger and better screen, 256 vs 512MB mem, etc. I'd like to see what your battery life would be on your iPhone if you could plug in htc's battery.
Definitely not saying Apple is not good on batteries, just saying to read and check stuff before you make comparisons between devices.
St.Jimmy! said:
I have the UV kernel and I think it does extend battery life. The first day I had it it lasted for 18 and a half hours with a fairly normal use: GTalk, browsing, camera, market downloads, gps, etc.
I do want to mention for those who are comparing their battery life to their iPhone's that there's nothing to compare, as there's absolutely no hardware equivalences. You just can't compare a 600MHz processor to a 1000GHz one, as well as larger and better screen, 256 vs 512MB mem, etc. I'd like to see what your battery life would be on your iPhone if you could plug in htc's battery.
Definitely not saying Apple is not good on batteries, just saying to read and check stuff before you make comparisons between devices.
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mmm..... i'm thinking to load some rom on my N1 but... which ones are the advantages of doing so? the mods?
St.Jimmy! said:
I have the UV kernel and I think it does extend battery life. The first day I had it it lasted for 18 and a half hours with a fairly normal use: GTalk, browsing, camera, market downloads, gps, etc.
I do want to mention for those who are comparing their battery life to their iPhone's that there's nothing to compare, as there's absolutely no hardware equivalences. You just can't compare a 600MHz processor to a 1000GHz one, as well as larger and better screen, 256 vs 512MB mem, etc. I'd like to see what your battery life would be on your iPhone if you could plug in htc's battery.
Definitely not saying Apple is not good on batteries, just saying to read and check stuff before you make comparisons between devices.
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I don't want to compare hardware/ batteries, I am aware of all the differences.. But: I DO want to have a smartphone, which -at least- can go with for a day of usual use (calls, messages, internet) -at which point the Iphone just fails..
bmszabo said:
I don't want to compare hardware/ batteries, I am aware of all the differences.. But: I DO want to have a smartphone, which -at least- can go with for a day of usual use (calls, messages, internet) -at which point the Iphone just fails..
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then post your normal usage in mins/day for each thing and we would be able to tell you.
well i dunno i get a full days use out of my phone with maybe an hour or 2 or talk time and maybe 20 messages, syncing gmail 5 or 6 times, checking market, and a little bit of browsing. at the end of the day ill still have about 30% or so....im not complaining really but from what i hear from other people on the forums here their doing alot heavier usage and still at 70% or something. im just curious what is really making the difference, i dont have wifi, bluetooth, or sync on ever. but i keep my screen at full brightness always cause i love how the screen looks im running CM 5.5.3 and use setCPU.
I used a T-Mobile nexus one for awhile then sold it and bought an AT&T nexus one. The AT&T version is getting significantly less battery life than the T-Mobile one. I used the same AT&T service on both phones. I'm not saying it's necessarily a difference between the 2 versions, but between the 2 phones at least. I got probably 36 hrs. average on the T-Mobile version and maybe 18 hrs. average on the AT&T one.
maxh said:
I used a T-Mobile nexus one for awhile then sold it and bought an AT&T nexus one. The AT&T version is getting significantly less battery life than the T-Mobile one. I used the same AT&T service on both phones. I'm not saying it's necessarily a difference between the 2 versions, but between the 2 phones at least. I got probably 36 hrs. average on the T-Mobile version and maybe 18 hrs. average on the AT&T one.
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Let the battery break in.
blastik said:
you don't need another battery. just tune up your N1 correctly. Use either Wifi or 3g preferably when available. Use push rather than scheduled sync. Leave brightness down to minimum, you will only need more when you are outside.
Connections & screen usage take biggest part of your battery life.
I heard also some people who by pressing *#*#4636#*#* selected "WCDMA only" as preferred network so phone doesn't try to swap to 2g when there is no 3g. Changes between networks drain battery very fast. Let's say for example while traveling by car.
As well I have to say that last generation mobile phones have to be charged once per day. I consider that normal. Come on most of us play around, surf website, take pics and upload them to facebook, etc several times along the day.
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Thanks for the tips. How good is auto-brightness for this phone? Would it be better to just set a low and a high profile for outside?
Stock rom. Heavy internet. 7 hours straight....
Or 3 full movies
Or all day using it normaly...
Brightness always almost all the way down, no updating widgets other than weather, no push email...
Very happy with it..
maxh said:
I used a T-Mobile nexus one for awhile then sold it and bought an AT&T nexus one. The AT&T version is getting significantly less battery life than the T-Mobile one. I used the same AT&T service on both phones. I'm not saying it's necessarily a difference between the 2 versions, but between the 2 phones at least. I got probably 36 hrs. average on the T-Mobile version and maybe 18 hrs. average on the AT&T one.
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You were also probably getting significantly better battery life with the EDGE only of the tmobile one, on the ATT Network, than the now 3g enabled att nexus. You can force edge on the nexus one in the wireless settings, and switch it off if you are gonna be browsing the internet for a while, etc to try to get the most outta that battery.
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You were also probably getting significantly better battery life with the EDGE only of the tmobile one, on the ATT Network, than the now 3g enabled att nexus. You can force edge on the nexus one in the wireless settings, and switch it off if you are gonna be browsing the internet for a while, etc to try to get the most outta that battery.
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I tried edge only but didn't notice much of a difference.

Buying A Samsung Product

I have had every GSM android phone Available in the USA, as well as the Rogers Magic from Canada & European HTC Hero.
HTC has been Extremely amazing with their products and if any issues, they were very helpful.
Ive Read more bad things about Samsung products than good such as electronics dying a few months of being purchased brand new and their support being the worst.... I am a little shaky to buy the phone due to people commenting feeling like straight up plastic. and also because i would be pretty pissed for it to die just a couple weeks, or months from purchase date.
Anyone Experience anything wrong with their phones so far? Hardware Related???? Now Samsung also sucks with Updates and Promises, Just look at the behold. Seriously!!!!!!!! --- Flame, flag, discuss, be of use, do your thing-----
The various radios and their ability to hold a strong signal when touched by your hand is definitely a concern. Indoors, 3G reception with this device is extremely unreliable. I fluctuate from having full signal strength (not just going off of 'bars'), to EDGE, to dropped calls. I've had calls go straight to voicemail, while the phone is sitting on a desk, where other phones did not have this issue.
Outside, depending on how 'obstructed' I am, it's a bit difficult to drop. But if I walk between two houses, 3G signal is screwed. Blame it on the frequency of T-Mo's network, I guess; but I have used 3G phones on the network which have never suffered from these problems. A co-worker of mine uses a cheapo 'MyTouch 3G', which outperforms my $500 phone in terms of 3G strength and GPS-locking. Really sad.
The screen is incredible. The best in the industry, if you ask me. The pixel density isn't as crazy as the iPhone 4's, but the colors are unmatched. Watching videos on this screen is like sitting in front of a tiny Plasma TV. Speaker quality is actually quite decent, to boot. Sounds about as good as the speakers on a MacBook Pro.
The build quality is solid, for what it is. That said, it still feels like a toy, and is probably built from cheap plastic to keep the costs down (the screen probably costs a fortune). I would've preferred a heavier, metal-body phone.
The buttons, unfortunately, feel very cheap. My biggest concern is that the power button might fail some day. The headphone jack is cheap. In fact, my first headphone jack was non-functional, and would constantly short out.
Despite all of those hiccups, I still really like the device.
Samsung's support is not the greatest, which is why I worry in the first place. In 2003, I bought one of the last CRT HDTVs. It was an issue of 'spend $1k for CRT or spend $3k+ for LCD'. I was broke, and in school, so I went with the CRT. After a year of mild usage, the board inside of the TV died, and I could only view snow-laden black and white images. The TV was covered by the extended warranty I bought through the store. A year later, on the dot, it died again. And the next year, again. Eventually, I grew tired of spending money on warranties, and let it lapse. Sure enough, the TV died again. From that point on, I was skeptical of Samsung's QA. They wanted to charge me the cost of the TV to repair it. Needless to say, the set was junked, and I wasn't happy.
I still don't like their build-quality. I think Samsung cheaps out, even on their larger sets. Everything is thin, glossy plastic. But one thing is for certain: Samsung knows how to build a panel -- the best panels in the industry, if you ask me.
That's all I really have to say about them. Hope it helps.
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HTC has been Extremely amazing with their products and if any issues, they were very helpful.
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Surely you jest.
Go troll somewhere else.
@Jon C
Thank You So much for you detail reply, and the use of past experience as a reference. I may just hold on another month and see what else comes out if not, ill just go with the Mytouch Slide ...... Either Way Thank You Very Much.
Galaxy s is samsung's flagship product it's being launched globally, I don't think they are in position to let it die as behold. But it's my own opinion though.
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07/19-07/20/10
I would just like to add my 2 cents as far as battery issues.
1. I use task killer to disable unused apps and free up ram/cache info and save on a little battery power
2. i setup the brightness manually to be low and the phone is still very bright. The phone on average uses 80-90% of its power from this alone so it is VERY important to manage. I used it auto on the first day and the phone lasted me about 12 hours. Once i set it up manually i got about 14-15. For example 8am-11PM. With lots of use. The phone battery seems very realistic to use in a single day..but more than 20 hours i would say you would have to have moderate to low usage..i would say i have high usage..1st day i had it with a full charge
30emails 10with attachments
100+texts
20 app downloads
30 min of web browsing
30 min of phone calls
50% total time using WIFI
40% with 3g
the rest just browsing on the phone setting up emails and such
please feel free to email me with any specific questions: [email protected]
I love this phone!
Update: 07/21/10
Today is the second day i use the phone fully and using it for just about the same amount my battery is only about 47% compared to 30ish% the day before..last night it crapped out at around 1145 with 5% energy..its 8pm now and im at 47%..so far i have charged it fully 3 times..i expect 2-4 more charges and im gonna get a max time of about 15-18 hours of hard use..LOVE THIS PHONE!!

quite impressive camera but battery life...

Well.. last month I planned a trip to visit my sister. I’ve heard a lot about EVO camera and I just had one borrowed from my friend, though i already have another model of HTC…anyway I thought this might be a perfect time to do a small review of the Evo.
Below is my experience with her Evo 4G.Before that, I want to stress that my focus was to have fun and not make this as an in-depth review of the phone, and i also not compare it to my HTC.
First the Sprint's maps told that on our area but it has almost complete 4G coverage. The tests from different part of the vicinity only shows mostly 3G connectivity. And if it does show 4G, I don't notice any obvious change in speed.
I prefer Google Navigation which I think is excellent then Sprint's because of the satellite viewing while navigating... even better than the capability of full-fledged navigation devices…There were a few times that google navigation would give a longer/slower route, but so does all other GPS devices. Over all, I'm pretty impressed with Google Navigation.
I have to admit that this camera is a lot impressive to me. It won't replace a regular point and shoot camera. But this camera is excellent for internet viewing. Reduce the size to 25% of it's original size and almost all it's image quality issues will be greatly reduced.
About Battery life... The battery didn't last long for me, and surely I did put brightness to auto-brightness, turned off 4G, GPS and wifi When I wasn't using them. It barely lasted only about 3.5 hours, good thing I got my 5200 mAh extended power bank and an replacement battery. I didn't notice any major difference between the OEM battery and the replacement battery.
Again notice that my focus is to have fun and try my new phone camera. My battery after second charge held out till we got back home, with me posting on FB. Overall, I have not too much to complain about, I just found some solutions to my issues. The only solution I haven't found yet, is the 4G coverage. From Sprint's map, it says we're fully covered, but as I go from place to place, the 4G coverage was spotty at best.

Keep the Droid Turbo 2 or 5X?

I have the Nexus 5X and the Turbo 2, and I need to choose between the two devices, I'm coming from the Moto X 2014. I've been using the 5X for a couple days and I do like it, but there are a few annoyances to me, mainly the speaker when streaming podcasts and such.
I'm just having trouble deciding between a sleek, stock android, but cheaper built Google phone and the powerful, hefty, bloated, but higher build quality Motorola phone.
Kind of stumped on this one, but leaning towards the Turbo 2 because I feel it'd last a bit longer. I know only I can decide what phone I want, but just looking for some opinions.
I keep the both.
I've been debating the same thing with my wife's Turbo 2. The battery life gets here through the day but that's it. I'm very underwhelmed by it. It gets about 2.5 hours of screen on time from 7am to 7pm and that leaves the battery anywhere from 50% and sometimes down to 25%. I really thought Doze would clean up any errant apps she might have keeping it awake, but so, far it's been exactly the same. Even overnight it still uses up to 25% of the battery just sitting on the table. I'd like to switch her to the Nexus 5X, I know Doze would work properly, but with the much smaller battery, I don't know how it would hold up throughout the day. She'd prefer not having to charge a second time just to make it through the evening.
She also had the Moto X 2014 previously and the battery life on it was the only downside. Never traveled anywhere without a travel charger because it just couldn't be trusted to make it past 12 hours.
Do it. Once you go Nexus, you never go back. Unless you're an idiot like me lol.
My friend had the Nexus 5 - I thought the processor was very slow nice feel but needs more of a motor
That's tough...
What does she do on her phone? What do you think the upsides of getting her a nexus vs the dt2? Any benefits you think you will lose when switching? Personally.... I really don't know... After kind of being stuck on a contract with the DT2 (or else paying an arm and a leg) I think the DT2 is an awesome phone. I personally wouldn't switch because I love the speed, power, endurance, screen (shatterproof part, the actualy P-Oled is only okay) and clean stock android (with tons of bloat). However, I can live with the downsides. I obviously get the Fi benefits and the NEXUS support but, again, it's all tradeoffs. In the end, it's your decision. Speed and endurance, vs software and fingerprint sensor.

A brief comparison of popular phones

I had a Droid Turbo for 1.5 years that got great battery life. I am a power user, and averaged between 4 and 4.5 hrs of SOT in a 16 hour day.
For no good reason, I decided it was time to get a new phone, and I chose the S7e SD 820 model based on the reviews. While the phone is pretty, there were two dealbreakers for me. First, the Edge screen is too sensitive given the way I hold a phone, even when using a case. I'd constantly open apps on the left side of the screen by accident. Or worse, make weird typos in emails. The second, and bigger issue, is mentioned ad nauseum on this forum - the US version has major Android System battery drain that has not been addressed. I spent hours and hours trying to get in touch with someone who could help me at Samsung. I was promised callbacks, fixes, etc.. But when there was no follow through and I'd call back, they acted like nobody had ever reported the problem before. I then tried tweeting Samsung support, and they responded... By telling me that their customer service dept on Twitter has absolutely no way to contact someone who can solve the android system issue. Finally, after calling several times, I got in touch w a US based tier 2 tech support agent, who also told me the issue had never been reported. He had an S7 on hand, picked it up, and noted that there was definitely a problem. He put in a ticket but said it wouldn't be addressed until enough people complained to trip their system. Given the challenges of dealing w Samsung, and my big priority of having a long lasting battery, I finally gave up hope and returned my s7e to Verizon. This is the first time in 20 years of cell phones that I've ever made a return.
I wanted my Droid Turbo back, but unfortunately, I turned that in when I got the S7e. So, I decided to get a DT2. I'd call it a fine phone. Nothing special that differentiated it from the original for me. In fact, battery life for me averaged about 3.5-4 hrs SOT, less than the original. If I'm going to spend $700 on a new phone it has to be significantly better than my previous one in the category that's most important to me, which is battery life. I don't watch much video on my phone, but I definitely use apps intermittently throughout the day, including FB, Instagram, Bumble, TouchDown and Feedly. Since those don't need anything special in terms of graphics, my only goal was to get more device use time than the DT. Since that wasn't happening, I've now purchased a Nexus 6p.
From reading the forums, it sounds like Google is much more responsive to issues because this phone is running stock Android. While the processor is a generation dated from the S7e, I do appreciate that Google will update much faster than Samsung, who barely acknowledged a battery issue affecting 100% of US phones. I've now installed everything on my 6p, and am in the middle of testing it for "normal use" (meaning, how I use the phone, which may or may not reflect the norm). If this phone doesn't get better battery life than the DT, then I'm going to return it, call it a day, and purchase another DT on ebay.
I'm sure for many of you screen pixels, camera and processor speed matter, but I don't watch much video, find almost all cell phone cameras provide pixelated photos, particularly in low light, and I never had any issue opening FB or emails at warp speed on my Turbo. I can't justify getting equal or less battery life for a phone that costs $500 more than the original DT.
Anyway, I'll give an update once I've had a few days with my 6p, but feel free to post your experiences if you've had any of these devices.
You should be able to get at least 6 to 8 hours SOT with the SD820 Edge, just look at this threat and try it. Despite your bad experience so far this S7 should easily obliterate your DT and 6p. It's just a shame 800 bucks doesn't work great straight out of the box like most Exynos do and how it should be. But even Exynos isn't perfect, e.g. my standby drain is slowly creeping upwards from 2% per night on the first day till 4% now, 2 weeks later. Without ever changing a setting. Not complaining though This phone has potential like no other phone in market does at this point in time.
I'd strongly doubt that any phone could average 6+ hrs of SoT unless you're on wifi and using the screen continuously. But again, everyone uses their phones differently. For me, it was the terrible Samsung support that made me throw in the towel. I agree that the phone has potential, but potential is just that. If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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Touche

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