Hey guys,
Everybody knows the snapdragon 810 runs too hot, and quick charging doesn't help. But with this year's hot summer it's getting to a point where I can barely use my phone because it's throttling and what's worse, it can't even charge correctly because the battery is too hot. It's just crazy, it's topping off at 300mA with a battery at 39°C, and if I put the phone in the fridge it's charging at 2.8A again.
So my question is: how do you guys cool it down? I can't be the only one in this situation. I'm to the point where I could try a gentle hack like a USB powered fridge you could put under the case, or something similarly ridiculous.
Any ideas?
microcox said:
Hey guys,
Everybody knows the snapdragon 810 runs too hot, and quick charging doesn't help. But with this year's hot summer it's getting to a point where I can barely use my phone because it's throttling and what's worse, it can't even charge correctly because the battery is too hot. It's just crazy, it's topping off at 300mA with a battery at 39°C, and if I put the phone in the fridge it's charging at 2.8A again.
So my question is: how do you guys cool it down? I can't be the only one in this situation. I'm to the point where I could try a gentle hack like a USB powered fridge you could put under the case, or something similarly ridiculous.
Any ideas?
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Time your charging to your commute, with a vent-mounted clip, AC blasting it. I've done that with my Note4 "optimizing" apps, even while charging, phone's ice cube cold.
Also, charging any Lithium battery under high temperatures shortens its lifespan. Not a big deal with a removable battery, but with the 6P you want to avoid that as much as you can.
Funny, I did that with the note 4 too (did nobody tell you that flashing while driving is dangerous? ^^)
The thing is now I commute by bike. Anyway, I charge the n6p at least twice a day (sigh) so that would still be a problem.
Also, I forgot to mention it but of course the loss of longevity associated with overheating is what worries me most.
To be honest i never recognized this and the lifetime is for me not a killer feature anymore,
i know ill buy every two years a new phone (even if i try not to ).
Its so hot in your room?
Well I'm definitely not buying a phone to keep it more than a year / a year and a half either. But the thing is a hot battery may die on you very quickly. My note 4 battery died after 8 months (quick charge and QI charge cooked it). But it was removable...
And it's not *that* hot in here, but you can reach 30°C inside so it's fairly easy to get a 40°C battery.
I usually keep my (naked) 6P on a slate or marble surface while it's charging, so that the good conductivity and high thermal capacity of the surface completely absorbs the generated heat. My phones battery is about 30-31° with 28° room temperature.
Also, I rarely charge it with its bundled charger, and use a 1.2A one whenever I'm not in a hurry
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I also keep mine on a cool granite floor while doing a full charge and it keeps it a little cooler!
I used a ice pack whenever I wipe the dalvik and cache and the phone has to optimize all my apps. Ice pack keep the back of the phone cold, i avoid resting it on the camera though.. don't want to risk cracking.
Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Same here. Just a bit warmer when optimizing apps, but that happens once a month (when I install google updates)
The rest of the time is just a bit warmer, when heavily used.
I've had the 6P for 3 months now and I've experienced zero overheating or the need to cool it down. Does it get warm? Yes when playing games or running many apps like any phone would but I never have to do something like that and go out of my way to bring it down, just let it sit and it cools itself.
I feel your pain. LA has been warm lately and my apt is usually a few degrees warmer than it is outside. My 6P is burning up sometimes.
My solution has been to use a 3D printed phone stand that I have (I'm sure most phone stands would help) and place it front of a small desk fan that I have while it charges. I noticed that it gets most hot when it's charging and lying flat on a surface (desk, my bed, etc.), so I prop it up in the stand and that seems to help.
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Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Well no, I just made up everything so you guys have something to talk about. XDA has been so quiet lately...
Subiegsr said:
I used a ice pack whenever I wipe the dalvik and cache and the phone has to optimize all my apps. Ice pack keep the back of the phone cold, i avoid resting it on the camera though.. don't want to risk cracking.
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Yep, I'm tempted to do that when it's really too hot but I'm afraid it could to as much damage as too much heat. Definitely works though. It's just fun to watch the amps go back up in the Ampere app when the phone is cooling down.
I run the phone in Hexamode (core 6 & 7 offline). Seems to help keep the phone temps lower. No real life performance impact. The reduced number of cores won’t adversely affect performance, as Android, and the majority of its apps, still aren’t optimised, nor demanding enough to need octa-core power. Give it a try!
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Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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It all depends on your ambient temperature. Battery capacity is notably reduced over time if it experiences temperatures over 35°C, and since the 6P is not that easy to take apart it is worth finding a solution to keep the battery cool.
The room temperature can easily be over 30°C in most places during summer, therefore it is common for batteries to overheat while charging.
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microcox said:
Yep, I'm tempted to do that when it's really too hot but I'm afraid it could to as much damage as too much heat. Definitely works though. It's just fun to watch the amps go back up in the Ampere app when the phone is cooling down.
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Low temperatures cannot cause any permanent harm to batteries instead. They might temporarily shorten battery life, but it is always good for batteries to be stored in cold environments (they are kept at around 8°C in labs to maximize their endurance).
So no problem from this point of view! just avoid condensation of humidity, which can actually kill your phone
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Well no, I just made up everything so you guys have something to talk about. XDA has been so quiet lately...
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Oh Ok. Thought so. Thanks.. :silly:
If anyone is worried about heat definitely don't create a backup in TWRP with compression on lol. I have a lot of data so it takes a while and wow does it get hot. I'd imagine thermal throttling is shut off while in twrp so the cpu just blasts away full speed.
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It all depends on your ambient temperature. Battery capacity is notably reduced over time if it experiences temperatures over 35°C, and since the 6P is not that easy to take apart it is worth finding a solution to keep the battery cool.
The room temperature can easily be over 30°C in most places during summer, therefore it is common for batteries to overheat while charging.
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Low temperatures cannot cause any permanent harm to batteries instead. They might temporarily shorten battery life, but it is always good for batteries to be stored in cold environments (they are kept at around 8°C in labs to maximize their endurance).
So no problem from this point of view! just avoid condensation of humidity, which can actually kill your phone
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Very interesting, thanks! Here in summer we are always between 25 and 35°C, and my battery is at least at 37°C (idle phone in the morning). So I'm pretty much guaranteed to destroy my battery
I live in place where in summer the avg temp is 40°c so it is hot and if i use outdoors i can definetly feel my device is warm even in my pocket
Also whenever it throttles i just keep it untouched for about 5 to 10 mins and it gets relatively cool again
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While charging and streaming TuneIn radio app through Bluetooth speaker. It's pretty hot though..
Here's mine, ambient temp is 28c. Not charging only TuneIn Radio dreaming on data.
46 degree c now. It's not that bad considering it was 64 earlier when charging and I live in Singapore
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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This is what i am worried about too. Since the battery are not removable. Hopefully the heat won't cause any damage to the battery. :fingers-crossed:
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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Batteries are made to withstand much hotter than 40c If it wasn't the case, batteries would just die in ambient temp in some summer countries
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This is what i am worried about too. Since the battery are not removable. Hopefully the heat won't cause any damage to the battery. :fingers-crossed:
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It wont do damage to the battery as long as the battery doesn't go over 60c. It just means it'll discharge quicker and you'll have to put it through another cycle. Modern phones have like 2 years of cycles in them in you charge each day before until the life starts to become noticeable that it dropping off. I think I saw something where they're at about 80% after a year of charging per day. At the same time not using the battery is bad for it too..
So tbh I wouldn't worry about it as contracts last 2 years.
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Batteries are made to withstand much hotter than 40c If it wasn't the case, batteries would just die in ambient temp in some summer countries
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Yeh but they discharge quicker as they become hot, usually the battery doesn't get hot on a summers day unless you leave it out in the sun. That is why they die so quickly under heavy use because they get really hot.
I've seen my battery hit 47 degrees. I asked HTC tech support about this. The guy clearly had no idea but went away and asked someone and came back with the answer that, so long as it's below 55, you should be okay. I hope he's right.
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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get kernel tuner and look at the "battery temperature". Some apps like GSAM takes the processor temperature and not the battery temp.
Or also dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to the battery statistics page. You should see there your real battery temperature. It's kinda strange about you guys reaching 40c on battery temperature as I live in a tropical country and this month is peak of summer season. And I only get like 27c on my battery temperature right now with regular use.
Here's me playing need for speed most wanted. Burn baby burn!
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Here's me playing need for speed most wanted. Burn baby burn!
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I thought that temperature scale was in Celsius for a moment...
His phone is going over 110F, so he's probably hitting about 44C
xxquicksh0txx said:
I thought that temperature scale was in Celsius for a moment...
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Lol yeah. Shoulda snapped a different picture.
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This is the most puzzling issue for me so far
I fully agree with @Terrorantula the problem is at hot temps it consumes battery quicker
i was using my uncle's unit for a while and i reported it doesnt get hot easily, my own unit is different though, its around 40C all the time during ordinary use as well
im worried about both drain and throttling in gaming
now i have a like an OCD about the previous unit
definitly we need to look into this, the funny part my own unit is supposed to consume less since its PVS3 vs PVS2, im even thinking we got it all wrong about PVS maybe the lower PVS is the better one?
How is the temperature while playing heavy games like DH4
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I get 40-41 on DH4. Maybe a few moments hit 42.
Right now, I'm charging my phone and using some low-demand apps and I'm sitting at 38. I believe it usually sits a little lower than that.
PVS4 here.
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ataft said:
I get 40-41 on DH4. Maybe a few moments hit 42.
Right now, I'm charging my phone and using some low-demand apps and I'm sitting at 38.
PVS4 here.
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DH4?
Dungeon Hunter 4. It's a decent looking game, so I imagine it pushes the phone fairly hard. I've come across times when it has noticeably slowed down. But that may be due more to lack of optimizations for the S600.
It's a gameloft game though, so you know they will try to screw you for money. And that is definitely the case with this game. Really good game, but you gotta be patient.
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I get high temps very often, I guess this is the cost of the premium aluminum build.
I'd think the aluminum build would help keep temps lower as it transfers heat more easily. I'm guessing the S600 and the battery combination are the cooker in this one.
...how the hell does Samsung get away with it's faster clocked s600?
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Hello, I've got my Nexus 4 from this Monday but only yesterday I noticed that it warms up a little too much.
Today I tried a "Classic Stability Test" to see how much the CPU and the battery warms up and after 7-8 minutes... The phone was like lava! Battery was at 50,7 c° and the CPU at 84 c°!
With games like GTA Vice City I got like 46 Battery and 64 CPU, and this should be normal, right?
P.S. I live in Sardinia, 30 Degrees today...
lol well.... is running stability test part of your everyday routine, and something you require to be able to do with your phone? thats like putting a brick on your gas pedal with the car in neutral and getting a little bit worried that the engine temp is rising.
on a more serious note, 64* is fine, more than fine for every day use. games like gta will probably stress your phone as much as anything youd do on a regular basis, even nova 3. mainly because gta optimization sucks, so it still strains your cpu as much as games with better graphics. 84* is getting up there, but lg didnt add a thermal shutdown limit just for the hell of it. you havent hit it, so you havent damaged anything.
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lol well.... is running stability test part of your everyday routine, and something you require to be able to do with your phone? thats like putting a brick on your gas pedal with the car in neutral and getting a little bit worried that the engine temp is rising.
on a more serious note, 64* is fine, more than fine for every day use. games like gta will probably stress your phone as much as anything youd do on a regular basis, even nova 3. mainly because gta optimization sucks, so it still strains your cpu as much as games with better graphics. 84* is getting up there, but lg didnt add a thermal shutdown limit just for the hell of it. you havent hit it, so you havent damaged anything.
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Ok, I know that, but that reassures me, thanks
BTW, for the battery the limit is like 60, right? So It should be okay, no?
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Ok, I know that, but that reassures me, thanks
BTW, for the battery the limit is like 60, right? So It should be okay, no?
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In all honesty, I have no idea what the limit is for the battery, I don't even care about this "too hot" nonsense, you should have seen the amount of threads we had on here a few months ago. I do know that 80* is pretty warm for the CPU, but still pretty far from even beginning to damage anything. The thermal shutdown for the CPU is 100*.I don't worry about battery temps, I've left my phones in my car on a hot summer day and it pretty much burned me when I picked it up.... everything was fine. Is that kind of stuff good for it? no. If someone snuck in my car, and brought it into my house and it was completely cooled before I touched it, could I notice that something was funky with my battery? hell no, any difference from any kind of battery abuse on any of my phones has been completely in-perceivable.
Brand new nexus 4 batteries on ebay are really easy to find. And cheap (all things considered). At 40$ a pop, I'll pay that a year and a half later than letting some kind of OCD drive me insane lol, To add fuel to this overheating scare everyone has, I've had my thermal throttle completely disabled since I got my phone, 6 months ago.
Electronics have ALWAYS produced heat, that's how they work. But now, having a quad core 1.5ghz processor in your pocket, that isn't even air cooled, you WILL feel the temperature. That doesn't mean anything is wrong. I dare you to open up your computer right now, flip it off, pull off the heatsink and touch the processor. You will get burned. But that's how it runs, and you never would have known if you didn't feel the heat coming through the case or touched it for yourself.
Sorry for the rant, but yeah, your good and in the clear... long ways to go before you cause damage lol
edit: looks like batteries are closer to 20$ now, they used to be around 40$
edit2: fixed some wording, I sounded a bit like a douche
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In all honesty, I have no idea what the limit is for the battery, I don't even care about this "too hot" nonsense, you should have seen the amount of threads we had on here a few months ago. I do know that 80* is pretty warm for the CPU, but still pretty far from even beginning to damage anything. The thermal shutdown for the CPU is 100*.I don't worry about battery temps, I've left my phones in my car on a hot summer day and it pretty much burned me when I picked it up.... everything was fine. Is that kind of stuff good for it? no. If someone snuck in my car, and brought it into my house and it was completely cooled before I touched it, could I notice that something was funky with my battery? hell no, any difference from any kind of battery abuse on any of my phones has been completely in-perceivable.
I also know that I found brand new nexus 4 batteries on ebay in about .5 sec, they are easy to find. And cheap (all things considered). At 40$ a pop, I'll pay that a year and a half later than letting some kind of OCD drive me insane lol, To add fuel to this overheating scare everyone has, I've had my thermal throttle completely disabled since I got my phone, 6 months ago.
Electronics have ALWAYS produced heat, that's how they work. But now, having a quad core 1.5ghz processor in your pocket, that isn't ever air cooled, you WILL feel the temperature. That doesn't mean anything is wrong. I dare you to open up your computer right now, flip it off, pull off the heatsink and touch the processor. You will get burned. But that's how it runs, and you never would have known if you didn't feel the heat coming through the case or touched it for yourself.
Sorry for the rant, but yeah, your good and in the clear... long ways to go before you cause damage lol
edit: looks like batteries are closer to 20$ now, they used to be around 40$
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Thanks for the answer, thanks!
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Thanks for the answer, thanks!
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no problem:good:
im glad i dodnt have to reply to this, that someone else answered, lol! but seriously, if the phone overheats, battery or cpu, the phone will turn itself off as a safety, to cool off. anything below the safety temps isnt overheated. when things get pushed, itll heat up, thats jusy how things work. and if the surrounding air temp is warmer, the phone will heat up quicker and warmer.
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im glad i dodnt have to reply to this, that someone else answered, lol! but seriously, if the phone overheats, battery or cpu, the phone will turn itself off as a safety, to cool off. anything below the safety temps isnt overheated. when things get pushed, itll heat up, thats jusy how things work. and if the surrounding air temp is warmer, the phone will heat up quicker and warmer.
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I know, but I was a little scared by this...
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I know, but I was a little scared by this...
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dont be. there is a lot of misinformed people out there, that just dont know, that publish blogs and posts that end up scaring people for no reason. the thing with the n4 is the "being able to feel the heat", thats what freaks out many. its all because of the glass. my other devices(galaxy nexus and nexus 7) get much warmer than my n4, but you cant feel the heat because of the plastic backs.
Sorry again but this is what i obtained after 20 minutes of Vice City.
OK, Maybe it's the game bad programmed but this can't be "normal".
I've 15 days for ask for a new one, star should i do?
P.s. I just coocked the CPU of my PC like 1 year ago, it works but it got some damages. I really don't want to burn anything else
(Sorry for my bad english)
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Sorry again but this is what i obtained after 20 minutes of Vice City.
OK, Maybe it's the game bad programmed but this can't be "normal".
I've 15 days for ask for a new one, star should i do?
P.s. I just coocked the CPU of my ar ago, it works but it got some damages. I really don't want to burn anything else
(Sorry for my bad english)
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its hot, but could be normal, especially while playing cpu and gpu intensive games. i play lots on my n7, and i can reach 85C easily when gaming. so its not out of reason. the safety is 100C for cpu, when the device shuts itself down to cool off. out of curiousity, were you plugged in?
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its hot, but could be normal, especially while playing cpu and gpu intensive games. i play lots on my n7, and i can reach 85C easily when gaming. so its not out of reason. the safety is 100C for cpu, when the device shuts itself down to cool off. out of curiousity, were you plugged in?
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No, it wasn't plugged in...
EDIT: I want to ask another thing... For N4, how much degrees needs for "overheat"?
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No, it wasn't plugged in...
EDIT: I want to ask another thing... For N4, how much degrees needs for "overheat"?
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the overheating temp for battery is over 60C and cpu is more than 100C.Funny my N4 can rungta vice city just fine.i played it for 15 or 20 minutes and the temp was 48C but idk the cpu temp
hope it helps
Ok, I searched the forum about this topic and didn't really find anything answering my questions. I'm currently coming from a Droid RAZR and it ran hot to say the least. I can't get a straight answer on this phone's operating temperatures and I'm trying to determine whether to put a thick case on or not(with almost no bezel, I'm paranoid it will break on first drop). From what I've read, about 60% of people aren't reporting very much heat. The other 40% say there is a huge problem and most have had to replace their phones thinking it was a defect.
When it came to my RAZR, at rest with a case on, battery temperature would sit at just under 87 F. Under heavy use, I've hit over 124 F. Without a case, 83 F, the highest I've hit is just under 117 F. Extremely significant when you can't remove the battery and swap it out. I believe that it led to it's premature failure. I want to avoid that with this phone.
Is anybody keeping track of their phone and battery temperatures?
What apps and/or widgits do you use?
What is the normal at rest temperature?
What is the heavy use temperature?
Thanks everyone. My phone gets here in a few days and I want to be ready with a case.
I don't keep track of it. However this phone does get really hot (uncomfortable to hold) when playing games. With Tpu cases this was less noticeable. But lately I installed skinomi stickers for back protector, and it always bother me when it gets hot this way.
That being said, normal uses such as Internet, music, YouTube, xda, camera.... The phone only becomes slightly warm.
-LG G2
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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Ok, I searched the forum about this topic and didn't really find anything answering my questions. I'm currently coming from a Droid RAZR and it ran hot to say the least. I can't get a straight answer on this phone's operating temperatures and I'm trying to determine whether to put a thick case on or not(with almost no bezel, I'm paranoid it will break on first drop). From what I've read, about 60% of people aren't reporting very much heat. The other 40% say there is a huge problem and most have had to replace their phones thinking it was a defect.
When it came to my RAZR, at rest with a case on, battery temperature would sit at just under 87 F. Under heavy use, I've hit over 124 F. Without a case, 83 F, the highest I've hit is just under 117 F. Extremely significant when you can't remove the battery and swap it out. I believe that it led to it's premature failure. I want to avoid that with this phone.
Is anybody keeping track of their phone and battery temperatures?
What apps and/or widgits do you use?
What is the normal at rest temperature?
What is the heavy use temperature?
Thanks everyone. My phone gets here in a few days and I want to be ready with a case.
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Admittedly, I'm not a gamer but the only times I've felt the device get hot enough to register with the Incipio Feather case were: 1) after a wipe/flash, and all my apps were downloading again from the Play Store and 2) when wiping and the device was plugged into the wall charger (CPU temp was around 100 degrees) - other than these 2 instances, I've never felt heat thru my Feather case.
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I don't keep track of it. However this phone does get really hot (I'm looking for.comfortable to hold) when playing games. With Tpu cases this was less noticeable. But lately I installed skinomi stickers for back protector, and it always bother me when it gets hot this way.
That being said, normal uses such as Internet, music, YouTube, xda, camera.... The phone only becomes slightly warm.
-LG G2
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The case I had been using with the RAZR was a TPU hybrid. I also went to a skin because of the heat. I don't think I cando that with this phone. I'm too clumsy.
WhiteZero said:
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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Exactly why I'm concerned.
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Admittedly, I'm not a gamer but the only times I've felt the device get hot enough to register with the Incipio Feather case were: 1) after a wipe/flash, and all my apps were downloading again from the Play Store and 2) when wiping and the device was plugged into the wall charger (CPU temp was around 100 degrees) - other than these 2 instances, I've never felt heat thru my Feather case.
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I was actually looking at getting the dual pro. Thanks for the feedback. Exactly the type I'm looking for.
Honestly i just replaced my phone due to overheating issues. It would literally shut down or restart just running the camera for too long. After reading some other reports in the forums I decided to send it in and get a replacement. My new one came in yesterday and absolutely no overheating issues. Even can run antutu without a reboot (my other G2 would reboot about 14% in). So from my experience there was a batch that had some thermal issues... I got mine the first day it came out. Loving this second one
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Honestly i just replaced my phone due to overheating issues. It would literally shut down or restart just running the camera for too long. After reading some other reports in the forums I decided to send it in and get a replacement. My new one came in yesterday and absolutely no overheating issues. Even can run antutu without a reboot (my other G2 would reboot about 14% in). So from my experience there was a batch that had some thermal issues... I got mine the first day it came out. Loving this second one
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Does anybody know if we can track manufacture/release date using the serial numbers?
I am using this case full time: http://goo.gl/0u05G5
I use Battery and CPU-Z to check battery temps. Even with over an hour of straight gaming, I have yet to see it get above 98F. I constanty run the screen at 80% brightness as well, as that can be a contributing factor. The games I have played this long with are Riptide GP and Madden 25.
You really cant feel any heat through this case, and hand temps are too subjective anyway.
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I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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yeah, especially while gaming.. and it's not the battery drain that concerns me, the heat is ridiculous for long term gaming..
and slapping a case would be good for your hand but not for your phone
plus there's not one manufacturer that make cases for heavy gaming yet..
i wonder what the case would look like if it was made for dissapating heat.. probably has a lot of thermal pipelines built in that would be awesome..
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I am using this case full time: http://goo.gl/0u05G5
I use Battery and CPU-Z to check battery temps. Even with over an hour of straight gaming, I have yet to see it get above 98F. I constanty run the screen at 80% brightness as well, as that can be a contributing factor. The games I have played this long with are Riptide GP and Madden 25.
You really cant feel any heat through this case, and hand temps are too subjective anyway.
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One thing I've noticed from people's screenshots is that the screen doesn't use that much battery. My RAZR would sometimes draw 46%. I'm sure that also contributed to the heat. smh.
atsfrnd said:
yeah, especially while gaming.. and it's not the battery drain that concerns me, the heat is ridiculous for long term gaming..
and slapping a case would be good for your hand but not for your phone
plus there's not one manufacturer that make cases for heavy gaming yet..
i wonder what the case would look like if it was made for dissapating heat.. probably has a lot of thermal pipelines built in that would be awesome..
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lol, I've actually thought about making a case like that, then I realized if there was a way to burn myself, I'd find it.
WhiteZero said:
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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I'm currently in the design step of a case that uses tubing to disperse heat at the top corners of the phone to cool it down and keep heat away from the hand.
If you'd like to give input shoot me a pm and we can discuss it further.
OnT: I very rarely pass 24c on mine, then again I never game on my phone either. Highest I've hit was 42c during some testing.
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Are you guys talking about battery temps or cpu temps?
Get the app CpuTemp from play store, it overlays cpu temp while you're doing whatever, enable only the top two options, enable overlay and start on boot.
Then get stability test app and run the first option at top, classic test.
Then report back here with your temp after you do the stress test for about 27 seconds. I hit 66c after 27 seconds.
Curious to see what everyone else hits.
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Are you guys talking about battery temps or cpu temps?
Get the app CpuTemp from play store, it overlays cpu temp while you're doing whatever, enable only the top two options, enable overlay and start on boot.
Then get stability test app and run the first option at top, classic test.
Then report back here with your temp after you do the stress test for about 27 seconds. I hit 66c after 27 seconds.
Curious to see what everyone else hits.
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Max temp i got is 60c
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my phone will sit around 40C idle and around 70C under heavy load.
using xposed module to show in notification bar
Is overheating an issue when wifi tethering? I want to use this thing for desktop PC games and downloads; does it overheat after hours and hours of intense wifi hotspot use?
Wompers said:
Is overheating an issue when wifi tethering? I want to use this thing for desktop PC games and downloads; does it overheat after hours and hours of intense wifi hotspot use?
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I have used it for a couple hours and it gets warm. Not warm enough for me to worry about checking the temperature.
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I have used it for a couple hours and it gets warm. Not warm enough for me to worry about checking the temperature.
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Thanks for your feedback. Would you say it was with heavy usage?
I have made the tests , and i get 72 °C after 1:20 secs running the standard test. About 35 °C in idle,and about 50-55 °C when i am using the phone for facebook,browser,youtube. Is this ok? (These are Cpu Temps).
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I have made the tests , and i get 72 °C after 1:20 secs running the standard test. About 35 °C in idle,and about 50-55 °C when i am using the phone for facebook,browser,youtube. Is this ok? (These are Cpu Temps).
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My G2 gets also around 55°C when using the phone normally (youtube, browser, etc.) and over 67-68°C while gaming. I think this is normal for a high frequency 4 cores CPU. Right?
Hey, I received my LG G2 yesterday and i've been experiencing cpu temperatures of:
42-48C being idle
52-59C during browsing, facebook, viber etc
62-64C when on youtube (after the first 5 seconds)
65C when on gps
As for the stress test after 1:20 and up to 20:00 it was around 72-74 C
The phone feels hot all the time though with no apparent reason.
Screen brightness is set to 30% all the time, 3g connection is off and I only keep Wi-fi on. I even tried turning off features like gestures, I don't know if it is of any relevance.
Of course I haven't trying gaming yet, since I'm not really interested in it, but I want my smartphone to be functional without burning up.
Should I return it and ask for a replacement? Or is it an issue with LG G2 or Snapdragon 800 generally? Will it be a waste of time?
Hi i bought the device two days ago and whenever i use it (i start opening Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp and other apps) it gets Pretty warm in the right side or the screen and behind. The CPU reaches 50 degrees and sometimes 55 and the worries me. What should i do? Is it normal or should i return it? I previously had an Honor 7 and it reaches the same temps but it doesnt feel that warm at the touch, it Just gets warm in the bottom left corner.
the temp while i'm typing is 41C, outside its 33degrees C and inside(where i am now) its 24degrees.
I do not believe this is normal whatsoever. My S8+ has been one of the coolest-running Samsung phones I have ever owned. You might want to return/exchange it if that is possible.
I have not used/tested with any apps to determine actual Temps but it never gets hot. It gets warmer but not very hot (like my S7 Edge did) when using Gear VR.
Have you done the simple things like closing all apps & rebooting? Clearing cache, etc? Maybe some app is "stuck."
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I do not believe this is normal whatsoever. My S8+ has been one of the coolest-running Samsung phones I have ever owned. You might want to return/exchange it if that is possible.
I have not used/tested with any apps to determine actual Temps but it never gets hot. It gets warmer but not very hot (like my S7 Edge did) when using Gear VR.
Have you done the simple things like closing all apps & rebooting? Clearing cache, etc? Maybe some app is "stuck."
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Yes i tried everything
After how long of using these apps does it get warm, right away or after 5-10 minutes?
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After how long of using these apps does it get warm, right away or after 5-10 minutes?
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I would say 5mins. Now it gets maximum 48 degrees in the CPU but i feel the screen and the body Pretty warm... Maybe it's me... I don't know. Feel free ti suggest me what should i do
it is absolutely not normal
my first device share the same issue with your's
well i ask for a exchange, the new unit just go to 45 when running games, most of time it wouldn't even reach 40 degrees
but
new device came with new problems, red tints, home button problem
it's up to you
ask for replacement until you'er satisfy with it
I would get an exchange(Yeah right the real me would hold on to it until it melted because i'm lazy). So far this is the coolest smart device I have ever owned. Even when playing intense 3d games and emulators it only warms up a little.
Thanks Guys! I'm going to return it on Monday.
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I would say 5mins. Now it gets maximum 48 degrees in the CPU but i feel the screen and the body Pretty warm... Maybe it's me... I don't know. Feel free ti suggest me what should i do
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If you're constantly scrolling and opening posts the phone will get warm, Facebook isn't exactly a battery friendly app, but if you're stuck at a post and reading it for a while it shouldn't get warm, it really depends how you use the phone. I can get my phone warm using twitter too. My friends z5 with the sd810 gets toasty.
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If you're constantly scrolling and opening posts the phone will get warm, Facebook isn't exactly a battery friendly app, but if you're stuck at a post and reading it for a while it shouldn't get warm, it really depends how you use the phone. I can get my phone warm using twitter too. My friends z5 with the sd810 gets toasty.
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Well i dont know what to do... I'm going to return it anyway and see if it gets better. Thanks for your help.
Mate. The CPU throttles when it reaches 80C. What are you worrying about?
I advise reading your manual, which specifically tells you that the device will heat up with use and the heatpipe is located on the top right section of the phone x)
The reason why it may feel hotter than your previous (?) phone is because the metal rim (and whole body) acts as a heat spreader and the heatpipe connects to it with a thermal pad.
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Mate. The CPU throttles when it reaches 80C. What are you worrying about?
I advise reading your manual, which specifically tells you that the device will heat up with use and the heatpipe is located on the top right section of the phone x)
The reason why it may feel hotter than your previous (?) phone is because the metal rim (and whole body) acts as a heat spreader and the heatpipe connects to it with a thermal pad.
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Okay but the warm feel is annoying.
Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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Let him get a new device. It's a better idea instead of dealing with that crap.
s4shield said:
Let him get a new device. It's a better idea instead of dealing with that crap.
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Trueee ?
Cpu temps keeps spiking up and down on any device that actually has a cpu.
What you need to look for is battery temp and not cpu temps. I consider battery temps a more steady measure of over heating rather than cpu as they dont spike.
Eitherways heavy bad background apps will make any device hot. Now if your just browsing on chrome with no background apps and your device temp ( battery temp ) is around 40c in a 20c room thats when ill be worried and exchange the device.
But hey thats just me
Gd luck !
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Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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It's already low
Vcaddy said:
Cpu temps keeps spiking up and down on any device that actually has a cpu.
What you need to look for is battery temp and not cpu temps. I consider battery temps a more steady measure of over heating rather than cpu as they dont spike.
Eitherways heavy bad background apps will make any device hot. Now if your just browsing on chrome with no background apps and your device temp ( battery temp ) is around 40c in a 20c room thats when ill be worried and exchange the device.
But hey thats just me
Gd luck !
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That's exactly what happens to me...
i also have the feeling that the phone get's warm. G950FD
i received yesterday, and im comparison to my OP2 this one feels all time warm.
just looked at the battery temp and it's @ 35,8°C... i will look out for the temp, and see if it changes
i also have the feeling that the phone get's warm. G950FD
i received yesterday, and im comparison to my OP2 this one feels all time warm.
just looked at the battery temp and it's @ 35,8°C... i will look out for the temp, and see if it changes
Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
trueiceman said:
Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
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Sorry but if it's overheating then it's a safety feature.
I'm sure you wouldn't prefer to be playing whilst you're phone is on fire.
I'm short, no it cannot be disabled, which I'm glad of as people would just point their finger at OnePlus.
*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
gsser said:
*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
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Hahah.
Do this with a PC when it's throttling.
Call the fire brigade first just incase
blackhawk said:
Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
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Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
dladz said:
Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
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Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
its not like i leave it dim when it automatically dims., i raise the brightness right away and do this until im done with my gaming session. Phone doesnt catch fire. Thanks for the thermal tip.
blackhawk said:
Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
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Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
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Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
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It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
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It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
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That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
dladz said:
That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
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They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
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It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
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It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
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Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
dladz said:
Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
manager.
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
I think a case with some space In it would help with heat dissipation..
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
Certainly shouldn't have to but needs must.
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Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
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The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
dladz said:
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
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With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
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There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
dladz said:
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
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I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
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The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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The Snapdragon variants are notoriously hard to root. They also have a good vapor phase heatpipe on the SOC.
Not worth it as they run well now