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N4 or Note II

I have a chance to exchange my N4 for Note II + $120 C on top of my phone. I don't know what to do. I would really like to have super amoled 5.5" screenn, SD card and stronger battery. The things I don't like is physical buttons, and not a Google phone (updates and freedom of Nexus phones). I have no idea what to do. Should I go for it. What you think? Please give me your opinion.

Do it. Use the $120 towards the N4 8gb.
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Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.

Before I got my Nexus, I was going to get the Note ll. Then I saw it up close, too big to fit in my pockets and a pain to hold. I ended getting the nexus 4, you can't beat it. I ended buying it unlocked because I don't want to sign another contract with ROBBERS. Great specs, great price, timely updates and stock Android.
It falls on the user though. Some people enjoy a huge phablet like a note ll. Depends what you are going to use it for.
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I never put my phone in the pants poked anyway. My hands can hold it normally, not to too big. Plastic look is bothering me I have to say that. Compare to N4 look Note II is like a toy. From other side Samsung device like Note II have no others to compare. What else you can take to have super amoled 5.5" screen and similar spec. Nothing really.

I've had both . The note is nice but i think its to big to be a phone for me . The removable battery is nice and I got over a SD slot a long time ago. So for me its N4 all the way .
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N4, nice solid phone, you can't go wrong go with it
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exactly...

I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.

EvoXOhio said:
I had the original Note and now I have the Nexus 4. The only thing I miss about the Note is the bigger screen. I don't make a lot of calls, my smartphone is more of a mobile computer, so a big screen is desirable.
The reason I switched is because Samsung (as well as most OEMs) do a horrible job of updating their phones. I've had two non-Nexus Android phones, and I hated that every time a new version of Android was released, I had to wait months or a year to get the update, if at all.
Sure there's always CM, but without kernel source, a lot of phones run like crap with CM. I have the HTC Inspire and battery life was awful with CM. I had the Note and it would randomly reboot with CM because the kernel was a hack because no JB source.
For me, features and stability won out over screen size. That being said, if the next Nexus phone is bigger than the N4, I'll be getting it immediately.
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I came from the Note n7000 as well. Used my phone in the same manner, as a mini PC. However, I wouldnt go back to the Note. It all depends on your needs for the phone. If you want a better camera and a media device due to the large screen. Then ya. However, if you prefer excellent battery life on a phone with a global community of great developers then stay with the n4.
PS remember Nexus 4 will get updates much faster than the note 2 and you wont get asked/mocked/ridiculed CONSTANTLY about having such a massive phone and explaining to others why you have it.
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ak700 said:
Decide it for yourself. One thing I hate about the Note(all Sammy devices) is that they get really sticky due to sweat. I have seen my brother's GS3 that it's really sticky to touch. On the other hand, the N4 requires a fragile user. You must have seen the numerous thread about people breaking the phone on the first day. If you are one who drops the phone a lot, then stay away from the N4.
OS side isn't a problem, if you don't mind rooting and modding. Both phones have great dev communities backing it up on the software side.
I highly suggest to try both phones by yourself in a store or some other place and decide it for yourself.
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i gotta say though the note 2 is lacking in the "original development" area. there's lots of ports and touchwiz based roms but for an aosp, there's much to be desired.
cyanogenmod was onboard until relatively recently then it stopped. it's up to a few to really keep it up and so far, it's all been nightlies and no stable releases.
i just gave up my note 2 and had to come back to a nexus 4 because of the lack of support. gs3 or gs4 probably has proper support.

Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.

testulous said:
Having both the N4 and the NII I'd say emphatically the Note II is worth it. No picky, fragile sim card tray. No fragile glass back, poor reception, slow mobile data.
The Note II has a 2-3 day battery, gets a signal where the N4 can't, and has a beautiful display.
The best thing about the N4 is the price and it's a Google device. For $120 anybody would be nuts to choose a N4.
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Is nexus reception that poor? I need to decide between those two phones. One big drawback for me is mali400 in note 2. I think that adreno 320 is more futureproof. Could you tell me about camera quality on nexus vs note 2? My brother has note 2 but unfortunately i dont know anyone with nexus 4 to compare them.
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Camera in note2 is far superior in focus IQ and speed. Low light images are better on the note 2. I also used to have one.
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Depends on your needs! For instance, a friend of mine is a designer, she loves NOTE2.

Thank you everyone. I will stay with my N4. I just can not stand physical buttons, cheap plastic and huge price differences. N4 is better device except sd card and smaller screen. The only thing I would like is 5.5" but everything else is step back for me. Not even mentioning the community for N4. So much stuff to choose between. With Note 2 after having N4 I will feel like having old device and stick with what I have. No way, not me...

#thanks4NOTEthing Sammy

Well, with the anoucement of the Note 5 and is full spec sheet released Sammy has officially jumped the shark (Happy Days reference - had to be there). They took away the removable battery, no expandable memory, lowered the battery capacity and produced an Apple 6 plus clone. For the last 4 years I eagerly anticipated Samsung taking my money because I knew what I was getting was different and a standard setter. There is NOTHING special about the phone now - S-pen aside. I am very disappointed in Sammy for too many reasons. From the lack of development and vision - for a full year, to the lack of accessories to not giving a [email protected] after they took our money last year. They have abandoned the mantle of leader and morphed into tail-between-legged followers. The one good thing is I will not have to use my jump program to hop to another phone this year. The Edge is solid and my favorite phone. Therefore, the option will be wasted on me this year unless some other OEM blows my mind. I reverted back to kit kat recently and have rediscovered the awesomeness of my Note Edge. #thanks4NOTEthing Sammy.

I agree its goodbye samsung. They have copied apple and it is the death nell for samsung. The reason I came to samsung from HTC was for the sdcard and removable battery.
The company that produces an android phone with stylus, sdcard and removable battery with get my custom.

colint3 said:
I agree its goodbye samsung. They have copied apple and it is the death nell for samsung. The reason I came to samsung from HTC was for the sdcard and removable battery.
The company that produces an android phone with stylus, sdcard and removable battery with get my custom.
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I picked up an LG phone that had a stylus but it was just a pointer. it had no functionality at all. Honestly, and I say this in all sincerity, I have zero issues with my note edge. Would I have given it up for a version 2 and the new s-pen animations and functionality? Yes, but nothing that is in the note 5 - especially with all they took away, warrants me to move this year. I will never switch to apple but if there is something that comes down the pike, other than Samsung, I will not hesitate to look now. Whereas I never gave any OEM an opportunity to get my attention before.

Since the note edge is going the way of galaxy round...and while I appreciate the devs keeping this device alive, since I have a JUMP v1 upgrade on tmobile since late july I'm probably going to get the note 5. The longer I wait, the more I pay for a phone I have to trade in. It was 870 at launch. Note 5 is 700, s6e+ is 779.
The note edge was a niche device, and it was fun to use since getting it on launch day. The lack of software optimization and ruined battery life due to overuse of fast charging makes me want to give this device up. I never use the IR blaster, and I can use a 64gb flash drive for TWRP/CWM backups and rom zips.
I was considering the s6 edge plus, but since I have a note 10.1 2014, I can use the sweet new s pen on my 2 year old tablet.
But until I get my hands on both, I can't be too sure about which to get....
Anyways, long story short, gonna give up the note edge before I pay anymore into it.
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thachosenone said:
Since the note edge is going the way of galaxy round...and while I appreciate the devs keeping this device alive, since I have a JUMP v1 upgrade on tmobile since late july I'm probably going to get the note 5. The longer I wait, the more I pay for a phone I have to trade in. It was 870 at launch. Note 5 is 700, s6e+ is 779.
The note edge was a niche device, and it was fun to use since getting it on launch day. The lack of software optimization and ruined battery life due to overuse of fast charging makes me want to give this device up. I never use the IR blaster, and I can use a 64gb flash drive for TWRP/CWM backups and rom zips.
I was considering the s6 edge plus, but since I have a note 10.1 2014, I can use the sweet new s pen on my 2 year old tablet.
But until I get my hands on both, I can't be too sure about which to get....
Anyways, long story short, gonna give up the note edge before I pay anymore into it.
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Samsung is going to force a lot of people's hands to follow suite because they abandoned the development side. I, on the other hand, am looking to buy another one in a few months when the price drops down even lower. This phone will be looked at as a milestone , and possibly , a huge missed opportunity by Samsung at some point in the future IMO. There are just too many practical real-life experiences where this phone is the perfect technology at that moment. Good on the new phone though.

I love the note edge. .. Samsung missing a trick on this one.

The lack of SD card is a deal breaker for me also. Luckily I can use a phone for 2 yrs, by then maybe they will get it right.??

MSK1 said:
I love the note edge. .. Samsung missing a trick on this one.
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The lack of SD card is a deal breaker for me also. Luckily I can use a phone for 2 yrs, by then maybe they will get it right.
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Agree on both counts. I compared my note edge to the s6 plus edge the other day to a person who was on the fence about the advantages. Needless to say the are looking to get the note edge before the end of next week. This phone is the real game changer and Samsung is really missing an opportunity. Oh well, I have mine.

An edge like the note should become a standard on all phones above a certain size.
It's that useful.
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Its a natural place for ur thumb to access. ..
Accessing the main screen with the thumb actually feels awkward now.

I love the concept. 1 side curve is more beneficial than 2 sides. I am not sure why samsung didn't release note edge 2.
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sohebq said:
I love the concept. 1 side curve is more beneficial than 2 sides. I am not sure why samsung didn't release note edge 2.
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They didn't release the note edge 2 because even though it was limited, you can go into any carrier and see it collecting dust on display for the past 9 months. I got it on launch day and only saw one other person with the note edge, and I work in a hotel, so I see a LOT of people everyday with their phones out.
As much as I loved having a phone no one else had, it was cumbersome to say the least with the snapdragon 805 constantly getting hot and dropping frames, and the battery that couldn't hold a charge well because of all the quick charge cycles. Not to mention the lack of development(from Samsung). Props to sbreen and tekhd for keeping this device interesting for the 9 months I had this device.
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Get 2 new batteries and use a battery charger. Keeps your battery working great.

petethepete2000 said:
Get 2 new batteries and use a battery charger. Keeps your battery working great.
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Why buy all that though? I just upgraded to a gs6e+. Most gorgeous phone I've ever owned. Using qi wireless charging, so fast charging won't kill my battery like the note edge or fry my auto rotate like the gs6e.
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thachosenone said:
They didn't release the note edge 2 because even though it was limited, you can go into any carrier and see it collecting dust on display for the past 9 months. I got it on launch day and only saw one other person with the note edge, and I work in a hotel, so I see a LOT of people everyday with their phones out.
As much as I loved having a phone no one else had, it was cumbersome to say the least with the snapdragon 805 constantly getting hot and dropping frames, and the battery that couldn't hold a charge well because of all the quick charge cycles. Not to mention the lack of development(from Samsung). Props to sbreen and tekhd for keeping this device interesting for the 9 months I had this device.
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Yes lack is development is there and disappointing as well. The edge part has a lot of potential but there are very limited apps. Also S6's edge is completely different from note edge so you can't expect development to carry on for long.

Another thing I can say is that there is no more recents lag like on the note edge. Loving that
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Why do i always like the niche products? I miss my N900 by nokia running maemo. Amazing unique phone in a world of androids and iphones and it had a stylus like my note edge... My last phone was an Xperia z1 and I live in the USA, no one here has sony phones. I also had an lg g2x, I bought it for its unique tegra processor, one of the first of its kind.

It's sad to see Samsung take the safe route with the Note 5 but hopefully it's just them wanting a guaranteed income and can then go back to taking a risk again with the Note Edge.
While the Galaxy series is popular and well known it still pails in comparison to the iPhone and I would hate if they continued down this path as we'd all essentially end up with iPhones with Android on them.

Hi guys,
actually the Note Edge brought me back to Samsung, after I left 2 years ago due to big problems with my Note 3 and the customer service of Samsung. So I sold it and had a HTC One, which now shows the disadvantage of a built in battery.
But when I looked around to find my next phone I was even more upset by the fact that every nice phone had no changeable battery, sd-card etc.
Found the S6 edge+ sexy, but same problems there. So I decided to look for the last available innovation which had the battery / SD-card thing still available for my decision and boom: Note Edge.
Bought it in mint condition second hand, 390 €, from January 2015I What shall I say: I really love it, and I will be happy with it until Samsung recognizes its mistake and turn around.
Good to be back again.

Top 5 MAJOR Flaws Of The Galaxy Note 5!

I have to say that I was pretty hyped about this device while watching the unpacked event. Then again I am always stoked when new devices are announced and released I am just a tech nerd I guess. I am not hating on this device. In fact I have already pre-ordered mine, and at full price so I can keep my Verizon unlimited data however there are several flaws present in this device. These flaws are especially true if you are upgrading from a device like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4.
What do you guys think? Are these flaws enough to keep you away from the Note 5? I mean it still has plenty going for it. Revamped premium design, great screen, great camera, SPEN, Samsung Pay, wireless fast charging and the list goes on and on.

Coming from an LG G2, it's a clear upgrade across the board. I dont even fill up my current 32GB so the 64GB note 5 I have preordered should be more than enough space.

Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......

It is a great video and those are not a deterrence to me coming from a S4. Hopefully I will get to see his next video on why to get the Note 5. At this point I might consider the Note 4 just to save money. Either one is a big upgrade for me.

Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.

Slie said:
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Honestly. People say that a lot..but it's wrong. It has most of the Note features that were on the 3 and 4, but the software is completely different. It's more like the s6.
Hardware is completely different too. It has the s6 hardware with more ram. I'm not sure why people think it's just a note 4 in a new body. It's far from that.
Not saying there isn't a level of disappointment. .there definitely is, only for different reasons. If I was coming from the Note 4 straight to the 5 without a 4 month pit stop on the s6, I'd be stoked. Problem is, I have the s6 and this is basically that with the spen features added. The Note line used to be a bigger upgrade over the previous S version. This year it's not.

Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Well, the guy has to get his hands on the phone to do a review right?

rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.

Maybe the trend has changed and the Galaxy S series is the phone to get the newest changes first. Seems to me with the S6 Samsung threw it against the wall and it stuck. It sold lots of phones and maybe for the more mainstream users the Note 5 will sell a ton. I think Samsung Note line was getting stale and needed an update. Heck if Samsung wasn't trying all this weird stuff with devices who knows where the smartphone market would be.
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
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I am hardly a sheep. Vote with your wallet and Samsung will get the message. The way I see it the new S6 design sold well so they figured they could capitalize on it with the Note 5. If they don't sell many the Note 6 may be different. If you don't like it buy another device this round. Seems that SD card slots and spare batteries are gonna be a thing of the past whether we like it or not.
By the way no disrespect to Rootjunky. He is great for the community but at this point everything is speculation.
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As far as we know, the S6 doesn't meet the expectations of Samsung in terms of sales.
I think, the Note 5 we are seeing is simply the result of decisions take a moment ago , regardless of the sales of S6.

I don't think there was anyway Samsung was going to keep increasing market share in the Android world. Probably why they have toyed around with Tizen. The flood of cheap phones from so many manufacturers was bound to happen with an open ecosystem. I think they figured that out a long time ago. They want to be the premium android manufacturer and not play in the low price war. They were probably smart and would have lost more market share if they had kept producing plastic, me too kind of devices. That's also the same reason they've always pushed all their special features (or bloat) Try to get you locked into something like Apple does. It just doesn't work unless the operating system is locked down and you control it.

rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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DroidModderX did the video LOL and yes I did pre-order the device and it arrives Tuesday. I think this device will be great, but i believe it is my job to weigh the pros and the cons of these devices.

I only have 3 major flaws but they are all deal breakers:
-no IR
-no 128GB
-Not available in the Netherlands
Other disappointments:
-small and non removable battery
-fragile build materials
-same processor as s6
-same camera as s6

The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.

Hamidd said:
The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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well the MicroSD is just the trade off for going with UFS 2.0. The memory controller doesn't natively support SDcards, so in order to have an SD card slot the phone would have to use eMMC 5.0/5.1 memory controller (which also supports SDcards), or add in a 2nd memory controller just to control the microSD slot. Which is a lot of PCB and headache just for a microSD slot, and i'm not sure if the Exynos 7420 would even allow you to use 2 different memory controllers at once, so i'm not even sure if you COULD just throw in another memory controller, even if you found space for it.
Basically, UFS 2.0 as the memory controller currently stands just doesn't support microSD, the next iteration of the UFS controller could potentially add microsd support, but I wouldnt count on it either.
As for the IR blaster, likely a space issue, but only samsung would know on that one.

hypersonicx said:
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
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You do know that the S6 edge has the exact same cpu and camera, right? The only thing thats upgraded is the memory. You were already on cutting edge.

rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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So what?
anyone can buy an a mediocre product. The thing is, it will disappoint and will no longer make you happy every day like the its predecessors did. Especially if it is grossly overpriced.
yes, for the majority of us, it would be insane to buy galaxy note 5, especially for its price.
but some people could, it's their choice.
i, personally, will vote with my wallet, and will advice AGAINST buying samsung products in my community.

Thanks for the correction. I don't know why I confuse those guys.
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Still worth buying?

I'm considering either this or the Galaxy Note 5 (although not out yet where I from) but favour the Note 4 because of the SD card slot. How does the screen compare to the Note 5? I usually keep the same phone for 2+ years minimum. Is the 64 bit processor a big deal?

topcorner said:
I'm considering either this or the Galaxy Note 5 (although not out yet where I from) but favour the Note 4 because of the SD card slot. How does the screen compare to the Note 5? I usually keep the same phone for 2+ years minimum. Is the 64 bit processor a big deal?
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While I can only speak of myself, I repurchased a note 4 for a few reasons. I had a s6 for a few months and it was ok. I kept missing features from the note series and also considered waiting till the note 5 came to Europe. However, I decided that I really needed a device with a removable battery and the sd card slot is a huge help. Battery life is a high priority for me and the note 4 can deliver that, it has fast charging, can add wireless and most of all, I can carry an extra battery.
The 64bit SOC isnt the standard yet, so its not a big deal atleast for another few years.

I want to know this too. I'm on the Note 3 and debating whether I should get the Note 4 or wait for the Note 6?
I saw a video that said the Note 4 has slow and unreliable GPS issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU85r3blu9c
Does it have any other problems?

I was in the same dilemma either to jump from a note 3 to a note 4 or 5 but ended up going to the note 4 for the convenient of the replacement battery and sd card.
IMO while holding the Note 5... People were saying it felt premium but to me it felt cheap. The note 4 felt more premium with the faux leather. On day to day usage I don't think you'll see much difference unless you're into heavy gaming.

Note 5 has not got lag at all and you would feel the screen improvement too. Note 5 is better from note 4 in global.
BUT someone who's got Note 4 can be disappointed in many ways.
Just for comparison you can sell N4 for 330 and buy new N5 for 450 in England which is not a big deal for a new NOTE
My opinion: I'll stay with my N4

Neo3D said:
I want to know this too. I'm on the Note 3 and debating whether I should get the Note 4 or wait for the Note 6?
I saw a video that said the Note 4 has slow and unreliable GPS issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU85r3blu9c
Does it have any other problems?
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On both note 4's that I have owned, I never had a GPS issue. Both were N910F

JSing said:
I was in the same dilemma either to jump from a note 3 to a note 4 or 5 but ended up going to the note 4 for the convenient of the replacement battery and sd card.
IMO while holding the Note 5... People were saying it felt premium but to me it felt cheap. The note 4 felt more premium with the faux leather. On day to day usage I don't think you'll see much difference unless you're into heavy gaming.
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I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.

Neo3D said:
I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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Yeah I agree. I'm not optimistic that Samsung will bring the MicroSD card slot back. It seems like it's the new trend going forward

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I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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That's why I chose the note 4 because of those deal breaker. TBH, phones have gotten so good in the past couple of years that we're merely just buying aesthetic of the phone instead of functionality when we're upgrading. If Samsung had the same support as Apple with their upgrade Operating System, I don't think a lot of people would be upgrading beside Tech Heads who needs the latest and greatest phone at the time.

I'm staying with my 4.
Got a note 5 on my hands at the store. It really feels better and the s pen is much better. But aside that, note 4 wins on the SD card slot that I swap a lot. I'll wait for the note 6 or some other thing.
As the other friend said. Phones got so much better in the last couple years that there is not much reasons for considering an yearly upgrade.
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For me, at least removable battery is enough & Note 4 can do that.
For storage, at least OTG USB flash drive is accessible, but microSD is of course better.
I hope Note 6 or 7 bring back at least removable battery.
For now Note 4 is worth buying/keeping instead of Note 5.

Compare all the features side by side and considering the price difference I would say note 4 is still a better option that of course if you don't need fingerprint scanner. All the features of the note 5 are already available through custom ROM s and developers are hard at work to improve them.

Previous Phone and Why Note 7

S7 edge and the curved on note 7 is better

S7 Edge, and because why not. New stuff is always fun, and I typically upgrade phones a lot.

Nexus 6p to note 7 because I like new phones

HTC One M8 to Note 7 because the M8 is wearing out and the Note 7 looks to be an awesome device. However I'm a bit uneasy about not having the ability to root, not being able to restore apps borked by updates, and not being able to TWRP backup the device once I have it set up the way I like. Hoping the device is good enough that no root will seem like a minor trade off.

Nexus 6 to Note 7. Nexus 6 is a lag-fest. I miss calls constantly because the screen refuses to let me swipe to answer. Yes, I've tried reflashing, keeping apps uninstalled, etc. The only thing I haven't tried is rooting and doing a custom ROM, which I am not doing to make the phone simply usable. Not to mention the camera is awful. Laggy, slow, and takes awful pictures. Of all the Android phones I've owned, the Nexus 6 is 2nd to worst [worst was Droid RAZR due to horrid battery life].
As much as everyone loves the Nexus, it feels like the only thing going for it is updates straight from El Goog.
One of my favorite phones was the Note 2, if not the favorite. It feels like I am coming home with the Note 7.

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HTC One M8 to Note 7 because the M8 is wearing out and the Note 7 looks to be an awesome device. However I'm a bit uneasy about not having the ability to root, not being able to restore apps borked by updates, and not being able to TWRP backup the device once I have it set up the way I like. Hoping the device is good enough that no root will seem like a minor trade off.
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I went from M8 to Note 5 and was uneasy like you. It was the first phone I ever bought with (1) Nonremovable battery, (2) no expandable storage, and (3) the knowledge that it probably would never get root. I have not regretted it or missed flashing ROMs constantly at all, honestly! Maybe I'm just over the non-stop updates and stuff, but it was great having a phone that flat out rocked and I never felt the NEED for root because it was fast and pretty damn great out of the box (and still is!). I think you'll find a similar experience with the Note 7, which looks even better!
Anyway, I'm coming from the Note 5 and going to the Note 7 because I was able to get a good deal and sell my Note 5 for $450, making my Note 7 free for 13 months (and then my upgrade kicks in so the cost per month drops to $16/mo basically). So the phone will cost me under $200. No brainer at that point!
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HTC 10 - I thought I could live with the screen size. Turns out I can't.
Also -- The n7 just looks so damned good.

Very reassuring, thank you! I am SO looking forward to getting this phone, and really tired of seeing the "order processing" status on Verizon lol.
PsiPhiDan said:
I went from M8 to Note 5 and was uneasy like you. It was the first phone I ever bought with (1) Nonremovable battery, (2) no expandable storage, and (3) the knowledge that it probably would never get root. I have not regretted it or missed flashing ROMs constantly at all, honestly! Maybe I'm just over the non-stop updates and stuff, but it was great having a phone that flat out rocked and I never felt the NEED for root because it was fast and pretty damn great out of the box (and still is!). I think you'll find a similar experience with the Note 7, which looks even better!
Anyway, I'm coming from the Note 5 and going to the Note 7 because I was able to get a good deal and sell my Note 5 for $450, making my Note 7 free for 13 months (and then my upgrade kicks in so the cost per month drops to $16/mo basically). So the phone will cost me under $200. No brainer at that point!
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Note 3. I REALLY wanted the Note 5 but was not impressed enough, I love my rooted Note 3. I thought it was just time for something new. Not thrilled with the Edge screen but tired of waiting for the perfect phone that just never seems to come out as expected.

Note 5, and because it's a Note.
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HTC M 9 because it's my 4th one and it's garbage. HTC NEVER AGAIN

jak341 said:
Nexus 6 is a lag-fest.
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My Nexus 6 is one of the fastest, smoothest phones I've ever used.
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The only thing I haven't tried is rooting and doing a custom ROM, which I am not doing to make the phone simply usable.
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That's unfortunate, because that's one of the main features of buying an unlocked Nexus device. Being able to ROM it with any number of amazing ROM's. And that is why my Nexus 6 runs super-fast and super-smooth.
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Of all the Android phones I've owned, the Nexus 6 is 2nd to worst
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My Nexus 6 has been the 2nd best device I've ever used, only next to my Note 2 and 3.
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As much as everyone loves the Nexus, it feels like the only thing going for it is updates straight from El Goog.
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One of the features is frequent updates. Another is one that I mentioned previously: to be able to install any ROM you like. To be able to completely customize the phone however you like from top to bottom. It's all about freedom to do what you wish with your device.
The only negatives I have about my Nexus 6 is battery life is waning. And the phone is much heavier and thicker than a Note. I'll be retiring my Nexus 6 (as a backup device), and getting the Note 7. I'll miss being able to root and ROM. But, with the updates to TouchWiz, and the amount of features and settings that come with the Note 7, I think I may be able to live without rooting/ROMing...... for now.

Exactly. Honestly I am tired of chasing custom roms, kernels, radios..... trying to figure out what works best, what's compatible with what, having to maintain software updates myself.... I want my phone to work and I don't have time or interest in "modding it". That's why my Nexus 6 is going back to VZW and I'm finally getting another Note..
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Note 5... because of the IP68 water and dust resistance.

S6 - wanted to give the curved screen and s-pen a try. Also miss microSD storage, but it appears I'm trading that for the IR blaster.

iPhone 6S Plus 64GB, Upgraded to the Note 7 for the iPhone 7 supposedly not having a headphone jack and never getting a jailbreak. Got bored with the phone and needed to go back to Android.

Coming from the Nexus 6P, main reason was no support on Verizon for my phone so features like wifi calling at my house isnt an option and I need to be able to receive calls for work. Love my 6P but when I saw that Note 7 i had to order

iPhone 6s to the N7. Bored of iOS and want a bigger screen. Love the water/dust resistance and miss having an s-pen when I had a N3.

Note 4. Because I dropped it and broke the screen about a month ago and had to use my wife's old phone waiting for the 7 to come out.

Coming from Note 5 64GB which I liked more than the note 2, 3, and 4. Upgraded because the SD is back, better battery, cool Iris feature, sleeker, Spen is better, color, and just the fact that it's a new note.