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I just finished my 24 hour testing of the Nexus One for my employer and figured I would give my 2 cents worth:
1. On screen keyboard: Great, especially when used in landscape. Portrait has a bit more room side to side than the G1, and it makes it easier, but I wouldn't go so far to say in protrait it is a night and day difference. Landscape truly is, and I had no problem typing long messages in landscape mode, and using portrait for quick stuff. A physical keyboard is still a better option, IMO as a keyboard lover, but the onscreen is executed very, very well.
2. Speed/Android 2.1: I have tested some of the 2.1 ports on my G1, and as nice as they are, they do not give justice at all too what 2.1 is on a Nexus One. Blanket statement, the phone is faster and 2.1 is a great advancement. A more astute observation that I wasn't expecting, websites load much, much, much faster on the Nexus One. I didn't do an actual stop watch test, but a realistic guess says sites load about twice as fast. I am on an EDGE network where I do most of my surfing when not using WiFi... when on WiFi it was more dramatic (I actually loaded 1 site faster on the Nexus One than on my computer)
3. Stability: I tried my absolute best to slow it down and make it unstable. Couldn't do it. At one point in time, I had 23 apps open, the browser had 3 windows, I had youtube running, music, and so forth. Of course, several of the apps had to "reload" the last point I was at, but with this phone "reloading" is pretty much instant. The longest it ever took was one of the web pages had to re-download the content. I found that the phone's cache held my normal use just fine without ever having to reload.
4. Fit/Finish/Style: The phone has a very solid feel too, despite being very light in weight. Fits well in the hand, comfortable being used as a phone, and I got a lot of comments on it when I was out and about testing the "wow" factor (I was asked to go to a busy restaurant/bar and see how many people asked me about it). And, as odd as this might sound, being right handed the back button being on the far left was not a big deal, and I actually liked it's placement a lot since when I used it in landscape mode it was much more comfortable hitting it, and I think this is what they had in mind when they designed in like that.
5. Battery Life: Damn! That is all you need to know, Damn! I tried, really, really hard to push this to the max and see how fast I could run it down. I had WiFi and GPS both going, music playing, and was surfing the web as quick as possible, messing around with google maps taking a look at new and interesting places, and gave up. I used 80% of the battery in those 24 hours, but I was trying my best, for a little above typical usage it only went down 20% from 9AM-5PM. My G1 is usually about 60% gone over that period.
6. Conclusion: I am someone that pretty much demands a physical keyboard for me to even think about buying a phone. I am getting a Nexus One as soon as they become available through the company I work for. My manager is a BB addict, and she said as soon as we get it she is switching as well. That is a huge statement, her daily phone is a BB 9700, she texts and writes most of her emails from her phone, and the Nexus One out performed her BB 9700. She was using the google voice service to write, but she said out of all the texts and emails she wrote using it she didn't have a single typo!
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
cloverdale said:
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
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lmao i second that!
But seriously, great review!!
cloverdale said:
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I third that
But excellent review by the way (especially on the battery usage!)
cloverdale said:
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Too right, mate!
erlern said:
I third that
But excellent review by the way (especially on the battery usage!)
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Your welcome! I will say, if you check out the Nexus One forum opinions differ on battery life, but those saying it isn't good enough or are having issues with it not lasting long enough seem to have something off IMO.
I would say, with my normal usage, I could get 2 days of use on a full battery. Doing power use to the max I would get a full day. The only way I see this phone not lasting an entire day is if you are surfing the web, playing music, and using GPS non-stop type thing.
i seriously want a nexus so #$#[email protected]#$ bad its insane. but i cant afford it. being 18 sucks
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
hiddengopher said:
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
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That it does...........
hiddengopher said:
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
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I know, its so hard to get enough when your parents wont buy it for you.
And being to young for a job doesnt exactly help either.
Well, I have a few questions though...
1.) How's the battery life? I may use it for occasional web browsing and listening to music.
2.) I played with it for a minute when I was at costco. touch screen seems WAY much smother than my samsung impression. However, does it support multi touch?
3.) I noticed it has FM-Radio and integrated GPS. Are those features free or must be paid to be used? What about wifi?
4.) I don't plan on watching anything on my phone, but what about youtube; does it lag?
5.) FLAC support; actually, that's my BIGGEST concern. Is there any way to get FLAC to work?
6.) I noticed that it's a 600mhz cpu rather than the 1ghz snapdragon. Although, I've read reviews that it's still snappy and doesn't lag (assuming it's because it's smaller). But there's one particular app I'm interested in, though I'm not sure if it would work on the Aria: psx4droid.
1. pretty good. medium usage = day and a half. occasional browing and some music = maybe longer. I've let it sit idle for about 10 hours (work shift) and it only used about 5% of the battery.
2. yes
3. fm-radio is free, gps depends on what app you're using. If you're thinking of nav/maps, stick with the preinstalled google apps. ditch the att nav app (which you ahve to pay for)
4. no lag on 3g hq
5. i hear this works pretty well: androlib.com/android.application.net-avs234-tDqz.aspx
6. it works but is very laggy (less noticable with the sound off), the only game i've tried is ff7.
I was hoping more like a codec or something in order to get FLAC support with the android's media player.
Also, FF7 was the game I was crossing my fingers for... I was looking at it playing on the nexus one from youtube; guess it makes sense with the lack of snapdragon...
if you plan to root and flash in cya build, i hear they modded it to where you can play flac with the stock player.
as for ff7, it isn't too bad. It is a really consistent lag so it just seems like you're playing in slow motion :lol. You'll need to play it with the sound off though, as the choppy sound is definitely unbearable.
There's not really a codec type system for Android. Besides, the default player is very limited. There are a few options for getting FLAC to work, but for the most part you're looking at installing a new player, which really isn't that big of a deal. As far as what works best I'm not really sure. My friend (has a droidx) and I have started to look into it, but haven't done tried out too many solutions.
Since it was brought up I don't feel bad asking it here. Does froyo/cm6 give any improvement to emulators?
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amazon has it for 0.01 with 2 year upgrade
with regard to battery life, I am having to charge mine in the middle of the day to get it to last all day. it would go dead in 8 hours if I didn't.
of course, I use mine. I think 1.5 days would be astronomical battery life for this phone.
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amazon has it for 0.01 with 2 year upgrade
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Really? I'm always confused about the prices on amazon; it shows the price with a new 2 year contract, but nothing about upgrading. Are they the same price or do you have to click somewhere to find the upgrade cost (without signing into amazon).
if your are planning on play games on your phone... the Aria is not best choice...
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Since it was brought up I don't feel bad asking it here. Does froyo/cm6 give any improvement to emulators?
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i have gameboid installed on my aria and it works great, even on the stock rom (i would still definitely advise you root and install clockwork/cm6). i play mostly rpgs (ff6 currently) and it runs fantastically, sound and all. gameboid runs smoother and looks better on the aria than it did on any other phone i've had thus far.
as for action games, i'm not sure because i haven't tried.
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Really? I'm always confused about the prices on amazon; it shows the price with a new 2 year contract, but nothing about upgrading. Are they the same price or do you have to click somewhere to find the upgrade cost (without signing into amazon).
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wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=cell_dp_upa
on the right side of the page on that link, you'll see an option to upgrade. When you upgrade a individual line, it is 0.01, but if you are upgrading a line on a family account then it is a bit more: 99.99
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if your are planning on play games on your phone... the Aria is not best choice...
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Not the best, but it does the job.. and it does it pretty well.
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i have gameboid installed on my aria and it works great, even on the stock rom (i would still definitely advise you root and install clockwork/cm6). i play mostly rpgs (ff6 currently) and it runs fantastically, sound and all. gameboid runs smoother and looks better on the aria than it did on any other phone i've had thus far.
as for action games, i'm not sure because i haven't tried.
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could you try the psx4droid with ff7? I'm also curious if it performs significantly better on froyo
hey the aria is my first smartphone and i'm really enjoying it. had it for almost 2 months already.
anyways regarding the battery life question, if i do moderate work on the phone(texts, web,games, etc with syncs on manual, autobrightness, BT and GPS off, and killing att nav..attnavi kills my battery quicklyi), it'll last 1 1/2 to 2 days. if i dont touch it at all, i can do 3 days easily. the other day, i thought i'd keep track of my gaming. i spent about 1 hour playing a game which dropped my battery about 10% (from full). so if i were to use up my full battery, it'll probably last close to 9-10 hours straight.
also from what i read, the processor we have is quite similar to the snapdragon processor. i'd imagine the psx probably would be able to handle especially with froyo. our graphics is quite good and i think we can keep up with the snapdragons.
here's a link which may surprise you. the mytouch slide has the same internals as the aria i believe
http://androidandme.com/2010/06/news/high-end-android-gpu-showdown/
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Really? I'm always confused about the prices on amazon; it shows the price with a new 2 year contract, but nothing about upgrading. Are they the same price or do you have to click somewhere to find the upgrade cost (without signing into amazon).
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go here and put your zip code in and click availability and you should see it
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Andr..._rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1266686442&pf_rd_i=htc aria
The longer you wait, it seems, the cheaper it gets.
My friend bought it for $50 with a contract upgrade.
I got suckered in by the addition of a free activation ($18).
Now it's free (but you pay the activation: total savings: $32).
Who knows? Soon they might pay you.
Three years ago I got what was one of the best non-smartphones I ever had (Sony Ericsson w820i, I think, or some number like that) with a $300 rebate!
i payed 50 to
was the phone w810? that's the one I have it a good phone
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Yeah, that's it! A great phone. 3-4 days on a battery charge, great audio. It did everything that smartphones do, just in an awkward way, slowly, and with a tiny screen. But I carried it all over the world, and still use it in my studio for a remote control (I wrote a HID profile to start, stop, record, erase over bluetooth).
I have been reading a ton of reviews on the X10, and am thinking about getting one. However, I have some questions about it that can only seemed to be answered by everyday users and not tech blog critics, and was wondering if you can help me sort out some doubts. Especially when the 2.1 Update just come out and the critics haven't properly reviewed it yet.
- How is the battery life? Several places on the internet says the battery life is horrible. I am secretly hoping that there are also people who love the battery life that just haven't given it a shout yet. I don't mind charging it once per day, but can it survive through at least 4 hours of music playing, about 50 texts, 1 hour of call with 3G turned on at all times for one day?
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength? Would you still be able to hear it ring in a busy citycenter?
- Is TimeScape THAT useful? Do you use it, or do you use the native messaging app?
- Keyboard - GSMArena says the 2.1 update helped a lot. Your thoughts?
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? What would you have gotten instead?
I know I sounded annoying - please give in just any input. Thanks a lot in advanced!
I work for a cellular company, and really use the Internet a lot on 3G/HSPA. And I have 9GB of music playing nonstop. The battery lasts about 5-7 hours. I always have a spare battery available to last the day.
The ring/buzz is not very loud. I often have missed calls.
Timescape is more usable with 2.1.
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I have been using the X10 since April 26th and I think it is a great device with one fairly major flaw. The in-call volume is ridiculously low even at maximum level. It has been reported to SE since release and has not improved at all over the course of two software updates. It's my belief that the hardware is inadequate to raise the volume and users will be forced to live with it.
- How is the battery life? Several places on the internet says the battery life is horrible. I am secretly hoping that there are also people who love the battery life that just haven't given it a shout yet. I don't mind charging it once per day, but can it survive through at least 4 hours of music playing, about 50 texts, 1 hour of call with 3G turned on at all times for one day?
Battery life was abysmal to start, improved on R2 firmaware and has improved again on the 2.1 update.
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength? Would you still be able to hear it ring in a busy citycenter?
Ringer volume is adequate, even in busy places. I do not use vibrate unless I'm in a meeting and it is useful enough to alert me.
- Is TimeScape THAT useful? Do you use it, or do you use the native messaging app?
I do not use Timescape at all. I don't bother with Facebook or Twitter so it is essentially useless unless you like eye candy. I suppose if you are very socially inclined through these services that it would be benficial.
- Keyboard - GSMArena says the 2.1 update helped a lot. Your thoughts?
Keyboard has improved with the latest update and I find it to be on par with the better on-screen keyboards.
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? What would you have gotten instead?
I do not regret purchasing an X10. I'm happy with it. It is excellent for browsing and both audio and video capture and playback. The camera is outstanding as long as it is not dusk or later. The phone has good signal strength and call quality. The in-call volume is the only problem.
Thank you for your comments!
Regarding in-call volume - could this be solved with a headset/pair of earphones? I'd imagine that I would most probably use it as my primary music player anyway.
yes you can solve it by using headsets as I always use them for music playing and receiving phone calls
My battery life last minimum 13 hours with constant use ( beautiful weather live wallpaper ) with facebook and twitter updating every 1 hour.
I do use timescape and I found it very useful, the only downside of it that it uses the browser to open comments or status, it would be better if it uses integrated application or 3rd party apps to open the notifications.
the ringtone volume is not the best in crowded places as you will miss some calls eventually.
And no I do not regret buying it because I am enjoying it
Ok i dont know whats wrong with the people above but they should check their ears and handsets. First my battery lasts 2 days with medium use and a whole day with heavy use. Any smartphone with this kind of capabilities wont last any longer (iphone, galaxy s, desire hd.. etc) . The loudnes of internal speaker was fine on 1.6 and now with 2.1 is great. The external speaker good enough and a lot better than some brand new devices like the desire hd wich speaker is terrible. The phone itself is great, dont beleive this reviewers as they dont take time to play with the devices and they just test everything stock and untouched. The x10 is the best smartphone phone ive had and ive had quite a few some of woch are galaxy s and still have an iphone 4 wich my wife uses. Let me tell u from build quality, good looks, stability and usfulnes to modding, customising and having fun.. this phone delivers. Its just solid. I have looked for many other options and i just cant find anything that matches my needs better than this. For example the galaxy s is cheap built very light and ugly and really unstable had it for a week and its gone. Iphone is just simple and boring with no customatisation whatsoever, small screen and everyone has it. Htc devices have bad cameras and bad audio quality witch i cant cope with. The new dhd for example has a really bad loudspeaker and a really ****ty 8mp camera also battery life is half that of the x10. The x10 is unique device and my strong points that i look in a phone are : works good as a phone, has a big bright screen thats easy to read, fast and responsive, stable, good camera, good audio quality internal and external, good battery life, a lot of customatisation options to make it look and work as i want it to, sd card, removable battery, flash light (very useful), notification led (very very useful). The x10 gives me all this and more. There is many many x10 users that are very very happy with their handsets and i think you will find that out soon . Personaly the best experiance ive had with a phone. Hope this helps.
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Ok i dont know whats wrong with the people above but they should check their ears and handsets. First my battery lasts 2 days with medium use and a whole day with heavy use.
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Basically, it all depend on your usage... some have 4 days battery life while other 7 hours of battery life..
if you use your phone to update your social life every X hours, have direct push emails to your phone, live wallpaper that connects to your internet every 1 minute to check weather forecast. listen to music for 2 hours a day, play games for another two hours. Then you'll get the 13 hours I'm talking about..
Medium usage can take me up to 3 days but I am a heavy user so I don't think that I will cut-off anything just to save battery time
In the end it depends on how are you going to use your X10.... butt keep in mind that comparing to other android devices, X10 has the better battery life
The battery lasts me a day and usually have around 30-40% remaining before I go to bed. About 15 hours of usage. I listen to songs on it for about 30 minutes each day, 30 minutes ebook reading, 30-60 minute angry birds, a few texts, and some random playing around with it just for the sake of it, I feel like it is a bit improved since 1.6, about 15% more.
Ring is pretty loud, although I still have some missed calls because I keep decreasing the ring volume by accident.
In-Call volume has been a bit improved after 2.1, I can now hear the other person at a skytrain station, could still be louder tho.
Timescape takes too long to start up, I really never use it.
As for keyboard, there are tons of alternatives on the market, so I don't think that will be a problem at all.
Finally, I would probably get a WP7 phone if I hadn't got my x10, WP7 feels quite sexy IMO. But the x10 is still much more impressive than the n900 i traded. ( missing the built in FM transmitter though )
good luck
- How is the battery life?
I got about that sorta useage but i dont use headphones, i play the music over bluetooth to my sterio in my car and in the office. and i get 18 to 20 hours out of it.
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength?
The ring tone is a bit quiet but still prety good. you just have to find the right ringtone, or tweek yours till it's right. (theres Apps for that ) i herd my phone in the machine shop at work so i'd say it's loud enough.
- Is TimeScape THAT useful? Do you use it, or do you use the native messaging app?
Timescape is prety cool, i like how you can put all the post from all your social and SMS in cronological order. I dont use the native Messenging App nemore I use Handcent to make and read my messeges. Timescape is just to slow.
- Keyboard -
I like the new keyboard heap better, i'm still using it since i got the update. and prob will keep using it i think.
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? What would you have gotten instead?
Was loooking at a Samsung Galaxy but went for the X10 instead, Now my GF has the Galaxy i'm glad i went for the X10. it looks good, (doesn't look like a Iphone ) it's fast, and works.
- How is the battery life?
I play music, lots of texts and moderate calling... there has been maybe one day since I've bought it that it died before I got home to charge it, but that was at about two in the morning. If I dropped the music and kept my eye on the use, easily go two days. I have no problems with it..I don't have to be careful or not do what I want to do, and it'll still last at least the day
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength?
It's fairly loud, but the vibrate is great too....very rare that I don't know I get a text or call
- Is TimeScape THAT useful?
Pretty nice looking, but I don't use it. I think its just a fad, I'm kinda curious now as to how many people use it
- Keyboard -
New keyboard is nice, but you can download all sorts of things to get what you need
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? Not at all, I love this phone
Battery life depends on the apps you run, how much you use wifi, gps, etc. It's a decent battery that can easily be run down with heavy use. But that's not the battery's fault. Think of it as a car battery that has to run extra lights, high power stereo system, in-car DVD... Get the picture?
Ringtone and vibrate are fine. In-call volume is the problem that has yet to be corrected.
I don't use Timescape or Mediascape. There are many other good alternatives to them.
As other users have said, you have a load of keyboards to choose from, no problem there.
The X10 came late to Android 2.1 but it's a fine phone in general. There still are kinks that need to be ironed out but in my mind it's the best looking Android phone out there.
If I were to get another phone it would have to be its successor, the x12/Anzu which should arrive sometime in 2011. Maybe that's something you want to consider.
Wow... I'm surprised. Not a single bad review here... much different from what I've been reading elsewhere on tech blogs.
I was talking to a sales rep in a local electronics store, and he was trying to get me to buy the Desire HD. Honestly, it is giant, but I don't know if I am wiling to spend that much more money.
Alright then, I think I'm sold. Galaxy S isn't an option according to reviews and its bad quality. Others are just too out of price range. I'm coming X10!
If you can try to borrow an X10 & make a call in a noisy environment, so that you're sure you can live with the audio level. Go through some of the other threads & see what people are complaining about, & decide if it's something that matters to you.
Actually, only people who never used it, hates it. That's the downside of being beautiful. You have detractors. I don't find any problem with in call volume at all. I always have two phones with me, but at noisy environment both will be the same on whatever volume level it is. My solution, go inside or plug in the headset. I'm planning to buy a SE MW600 Bluetooth headset anyway, so this part will be a moot point soon, plus the benefit of having an FM radio...
Go inside is not a solution, & not everyone wants to wear a BT headset all the time. What if you forget to bring your headset with you?
To say that people who dislike the X10 have never used one is wrong. The advice I gave is sound, you can never go wrong trying something before you buy.
To be honest. I just not only like my x10. But I really love it. Although there are some relly annoying bugs like in call volume, battery performance, virtual keyboard problem. Use bluetooth is not a solution because it will decrease the power easily.
But x10 is good phone. Trust me. If you don't like x10, it means you don't like android. This is all about OS. All about Android. All about smart phone. A phone with so many features. Just find, install. And may be tweak.
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I know this won't go down well but here is a summary of my experiences.
I was really excited about the x10, I pre ordered it and owned it for about 6 months. I cannot in good conscience advise that you buy one. Having recently (last week) upgraded to a desire HD i realise just how poor the x10 was in so many respects. The only thing it really excels in is looks. When I bought it it was not a terrible choice, but it has only slipped further behind in my opinion. Despite the LONG awaited 2.1 update the software is still poorly implemented. SE have proven to be unreliable.
There are too many good (better) alternatives available at the same price that you should really look at them.
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I know this won't go down well but here is a summary of my experiences.
I was really excited about the x10, I pre ordered it and owned it for about 6 months. I cannot in good conscience advise that you buy one. Having recently (last week) upgraded to a desire HD i realise just how poor the x10 was in so many respects. The only thing it really excels in is looks. When I bought it it was not a terrible choice, but it has only slipped further behind in my opinion. Despite the LONG awaited 2.1 update the software is still poorly implemented. SE have proven to be unreliable.
There are too many good (better) alternatives available at the same price that you should really look at them.
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Sorry but can you please explain poor? I mean what is better in the DHD than the X10? Camera, Audio quality, Speakerphone, Battery life, Build quality? or is it just smoother because of 2.2 and you think its so great?
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Sorry but can you please explain poor? I mean what is better in the DHD than the X10? Camera, Audio quality, Speakerphone, Battery life, Build quality? or is it just smoother because of 2.2 and you think its so great?
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Im pretty sure its because of 2.2 which in fact is being worked on for our phones as we speak, and also because of the sense ui which i think is ubber s***. To the OP, the desire hd is garbage with battery and camera quality and tbh as a long time htc customer with devices owned such as the tilt 2 and touch pro and the desire(for a month) the camera can never be as good as x10s and also battery is outstanding on my x10 it all depends on how you configure your device its your decision mate, u can get the x10 now or wait for the x12 either way sony makes quality built phones im not trying to sound like a fanboy here, i like htc and sony equally, like people said, try it out, people who hate it, never tried it!
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Sure i can go into a little more detail...
Firstly, yes the DesireHD is fast, REALLY fast but i dont think that on its own if a fair comparison, its a newer phone.
Firstly, battery... the x10 battery is quite poor, not awful, but not great. If you use the phones features fully it will not last a day. That isnt too unusual when it comes to smart phones, but saying it has a good battery is wrong in my opinion.
The camera, part of the reason i bought the phone was the camera, and it really is not that great. The app takes a long time to open which is a real pain for "in the moment" shots and the results are below average in poor light. Not having a flash is a HUGE problem in my opinion. The camera application is hopeless too.
Timescape and Mediascape have some nice features but need to be faster. Overall though i like them.
The touchscreen, multi-touch issues aside, the actual touchscreen is quite poor. It really struggles with accuracy near the edges (more than most) and often gets "stuck" on. (I have had 3 x10 handsets, so not an isolated issue)
Sony made a lot of customisations, most of which sucked. The looked pretty (sort of) but impeded functionality and slowed things down. They have gotten slightly better in that regard but still...
As for HTC sense, i think its very good indeed. The sense launcher is not at all to my tastes, i use ADW, but the modifications HTC have made to the rest of the UI are actually helpful. Often just little things like the "magnifier" for moving the cursor in the text etc but it all adds up.
If the x10 were half the price i wouldnt have an issue, but its expensive for what it is.
To me, after 6 months of daily use, it seems obvious that this was SE's first attempt at an android smartphone, I would wait till they have had more practice or go with a manufacturer that has a better track record... Samsung, Motorola, HTC etc
Ultimately though, its a personal thing, you may fall in love with it!
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2011/03/ars-reviews-the-motorola-xoom.ars
Just read through the whole thing. Exhaustive review. 10 pages in all. Lots of information, esp. for someone like me who is on the fence about the device.
Just don't read the braindead comments...
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Thanks for this. I have been awaiting their review on the Xoom since they announced they were going to be doing an exhaustive one.
Only about halfway through, but I noticed something interesting. When discussing the browser and how most sites are still displaying the mobile version, he seemed to not have done any further searching as if he had, they probably would have found the "about:debug" fix. While I've heard that it isn't a persistent change, it still works out when in a pinch. Just thought it was odd they weren't aware/didn't do further searching on the issue.
Hm. So far this seems to be one of the better reviews out there (outside of the 10 pages of clicking...). Thanks for this.
Very good review. Ars Technica is one of the best Tech Blogs out there, and very rarely do their writers come across as fanboys of one OS or another. This review really confirmed to me that although the Xoom is a great start, it will likely be summer before I purchase an Android tablet to keep (mainly I'm waiting on flash, lower prices, microSD fixed, and more Honeycomb apps). I am very much in support of Honeycomb, but it's not time for me to buy yet.
Just bought a Xoom on Friday. Love it.
I started reading this review and I can't help to notice they say 7 hours of mixed use. I have had email notifications pushing, wifi on the whole time, and got 20 hours @ 50% battery left. This is leaving it on over night and playing games and messing with it for at least 3-4 hours straight, as well as syncing/transferring files, playing games like Words with Friends, etc. So I am very skeptical about this 14 hours of standby time. I got the device to 25 hours and it was still well over 30-35%.
pekosROB said:
Just bought a Xoom on Friday. Love it.
I started reading this review and I can't help to notice they say 7 hours of mixed use. I have had email notifications pushing, wifi on the whole time, and got 20 hours @ 50% battery left. This is leaving it on over night and playing games and messing with it for at least 3-4 hours straight, as well as syncing/transferring files, playing games like Words with Friends, etc. So I am very skeptical about this 14 hours of standby time. I got the device to 25 hours and it was still well over 30-35%.
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That's the issue with discussion on battery life. Unless it's explicitly mentioned what was done, when and for how long, it's hard to gauge exactly could be considered "intensive use" and look at battery life that way.
Ars rocks. Hopefully google will speed things up a bit in regards to the current disadvantages of the Xoom. Thus far, most of them can be cleaned up with a couple of patches. Hopefully it happens soon.
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That's the issue with discussion on battery life. Unless it's explicitly mentioned what was done, when and for how long, it's hard to gauge exactly could be considered "intensive use" and look at battery life that way.
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Before charging mine for the second time yesterday when it was around 18%, I had reached 26-27 hours of use. This is after I played, oh I don't know, an hour of Gun Bros, an hour (if not more) of Hex Defense (I think that's what it's called), push notifications on from, gmail, Twitter, fb, browsing, etc. I literally didn't put it down for at least 4 hours straight at one point. The screen was on auto/a third brightness. I even listened to an entire album, so around an hour of music playing.
I really don't see how anyone can have the audacity to say it's standby doesn't last for at least 24 hours.
Did someone get an LTE equipped version that we don't know about? Otherwise I just don't see how that's possible.
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Before charging mine for the second time yesterday when it was around 18%, I had reached 26-27 hours of use. This is after I played, oh I don't know, an hour of Gun Bros, an hour (if not more) of Hex Defense (I think that's what it's called), push notifications on from, gmail, Twitter, fb, browsing, etc. I literally didn't put it down for at least 4 hours straight at one point. The screen was on auto/a third brightness. I even listened to an entire album, so around an hour of music playing.
I really don't see how anyone can have the audacity to say it's standby doesn't last for at least 24 hours.
Did someone get an LTE equipped version that we don't know about? Otherwise I just don't see how that's possible.
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Same here, at 32% battery I was at 29 hrs of use. And this was after nonstop usuage. It was a new toy and I just played around on it for hours. Battery is definitely solid.
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Same here, at 32% battery I was at 29 hrs of use. And this was after nonstop usuage. It was a new toy and I just played around on it for hours. Battery is definitely solid.
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So apparently Moto has stumbled across something here - an Android device that can be used AND last longer than 24 hours without a problem!
Now if only every device could follow in its footsteps... Sure, the battery is bigger than a phone, but so is the screen, not to mention all of the stuff crammed in it (like a barometer I have no idea how to use yet).
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The software is not particularly stable or robust
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It's the first device running Honeycomb. Even with that said, I haven't had any crashes or freezes. It's running great for me.
Requires a proprietary power adapter and can't charge through microUSB
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While frustrating it's understandable. The iPad has a proprietary power adapter and doesn't charge through USB. Plus the Xoom charges pretty quick
Users have to rely on the MTP protocol to manage media on the device
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Agreed, Google needs to build their own "iTunes"
The built-in e-mail client has extremely poor protocol support
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I disagree, I love the built in e-mail client. Regardless their are plenty of other options for Android, and will hopefully be built new for Xoom/Honeycomb.
There are very few third-party Android applications designed for the form factor
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When the iPad came out, there were very few applications those first few weeks as well. It's a brand new OS.
The Google Books e-book application doesn't support side-loading content
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There are other options that do allow this.
Very few websites handle the Honeycomb browser's User-Agent string correctly
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You can change the UA string, or download a new browser. Hopefully it will be fixed in the future though.
The browser's support for advanced CSS3 features lags behind Safari's
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Haven't had any problems yet.
The browser issue is quite dissapoiting to me (as a web developer). I hoped for a full webkit browser with extensions. Maybe Firefox4 for Android will be better?
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The browser issue is quite dissapoiting to me (as a web developer). I hoped for a full webkit browser with extensions. Maybe Firefox4 for Android will be better?
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Extensions would be nice, and I can't believe Google still hasnt fixed typing lag in the browser yet (on some sites)
While the charger on the Ipad is "proprietary", its the same charger that is used on other devices of theirs. Also the Ipad will charge from USB, but very slowly.
I'm disappointed in their review. It's not very good, and seems in some spots like they're looking for something critical to talk about, like the default email client: yeah, it's not great, but it's been not-great for a while now, and isn't a Xoom-specific issue; they talk about future-proofing issues with browser rendering, correctly stress that it's not a big deal right now, but then make a big deal of it in the conclusion.
The review's written like the author doesn't really care about the device. Engadget's review seems a lot more balanced compared to this one.
(PS. Lots of reviews keep talking about the lack of tablet apps. Wasn't this _exactly_ the same issue when the iPad 1 came out?)
Most of the sites are apple bias they just don't admit it
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I'm disappointed in their review. It's not very good, and seems in some spots like they're looking for something critical to talk about, like the default email client: yeah, it's not great, but it's been not-great for a while now, and isn't a Xoom-specific issue; they talk about future-proofing issues with browser rendering, correctly stress that it's not a big deal right now, but then make a big deal of it in the conclusion.
The review's written like the author doesn't really care about the device. Engadget's review seems a lot more balanced compared to this one.
(PS. Lots of reviews keep talking about the lack of tablet apps. Wasn't this _exactly_ the same issue when the iPad 1 came out?)
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(PS. Lots of reviews keep talking about the lack of tablet apps. Wasn't this _exactly_ the same issue when the iPad 1 came out?)
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The iPad launched with ~2000 tablet apps. The Xoom launched with ~20
So what? The "non-tablet" apps still work great a la tapatalk
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The iPad launched with ~2000 tablet apps. The Xoom launched with ~20
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The iPad launched with ~2000 tablet apps. The Xoom launched with ~20
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I think you mean 2000 apps that were compatible with the iPad in full-screen. Google made the mistake of labeling the Tablet section in the Market as Tablet Apps. They have since corrected it to be Featured Tablet Apps. Most Android apps work fine on the Xoom, even if they don't support the new Honeycomb UI guidelines. Since Apple just threw their existing UI onto a larger device, there isn't really a comparison here.
Hello guys and thanks for your amazing support and development... I have a question.. I am planning to get LG G PAD 7.0 the WiFi edition (v400).. I guess it's the best in its price in my country.. and I heard that if it came with Lollipop I am no longer able to install TWRP and Flash custom ROMs??? because this is a very important thing for me.. and in general terms.. is it good in performance and everything? thanks a lot in advance
Can someone please answer me?
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Buy the V400?
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I have had the LG G Pad 7.0 for a few months now and can say that it works well. As I no longer root and do all this developer stuff I can't say much when it comes to custom ROMs, though this forum seems awfully quite.
In terms of day to day usage it works well, it has mid range specs so don't expect superb multitasking and performance, for daily activities it works great. By this I mean web browsing, viewing mail, Youtube etc... It has a dual window feature which is very nice even though its limited to stock apps like Chrome, Youtube, File Manager etc... The battery life is superb, although I only use it when I need to and I probably charge it around once a week.
I would advise you to look at other tabs as well because this released in 2014 and I don't think it will get marshmallow, if you want something fast and snappy then avoid this otherwise for light day to day use this is fine. One more thing the 8GB storage gets used up pretty quickly.
Feel free to ask if you have any other concerns.
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I have had the LG G Pad 7.0 for a few months now and can say that it works well. As I no longer root and do all this developer stuff I can't say much when it comes to custom ROMs, though this forum seems awfully quite.
In terms of day to day usage it works well, it has mid range specs so don't expect superb multitasking and performance, for daily activities it works great. By this I mean web browsing, viewing mail, Youtube etc... It has a dual window feature which is very nice even though its limited to stock apps like Chrome, Youtube, File Manager etc... The battery life is superb, although I only use it when I need to and I probably charge it around once a week.
I would advise you to look at other tabs as well because this released in 2014 and I don't think it will get marshmallow, if you want something fast and snappy then avoid this otherwise for light day to day use this is fine. One more thing the 8GB storage gets used up pretty quickly.
Feel free to ask if you have any other concerns.
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Thank you so much for replying
I have some questions.. Feel free to answer them whenever you want
1 - Some low price tablets have something called "Ghost touch" which means that sometimes (and in some cases many times) the screen touches by itself and it may become so annoying.. Have you ever faced this issue?
2 - do you prefer having 4.4.2 or 5.0 on this tablet? Have you tried both? And in general how is the software experience?
3 - I am a medical student and my main use if the tablet would be reading PDFs and viewing videos.. I think any tablet can handle that (I actually care about the price more than anything else for now ) .. But my biggest concern is the screen.. how is the screen in general.. Is it bright enough?
4 - you mentioned "no longer root" have you ever tried rooting it and installing a custom ROM?
Again thanks a lot.. It's very nice to finally have someone to talk to about the tablet in this forum
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Thank you so much for replying
I have some questions.. Feel free to answer them whenever you want
1 - Some low price tablets have something called "Ghost touch" which means that sometimes (and in some cases many times) the screen touches by itself and it may become so annoying.. Have you ever faced this issue?
2 - do you prefer having 4.4.2 or 5.0 on this tablet? Have you tried both? And in general how is the software experience?
3 - I am a medical student and my main use if the tablet would be reading PDFs and viewing videos.. I think any tablet can handle that (I actually care about the price more than anything else for now ) .. But my biggest concern is the screen.. how is the screen in general.. Is it bright enough?
4 - you mentioned "no longer root" have you ever tried rooting it and installing a custom ROM?
Again thanks a lot.. It's very nice to finally have someone to talk to about the tablet in this forum
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1) I have never experienced such an issue with this tablet, the screen is responsive-even with a glass screen protector.
2) I (very) briefly tried KitKat and it was more or less the same, just a slightly different themed UI. Lollipop is better, performance wise it felt the same but the material design looks nice. Again I repeat I very briefly used KK.
3) Lol I am a pharmacy student and use the tablet exactly for what you have listed, I view pdf/ebooks on there (incl the large medical physiology & chemistry ones) and also watch videos on YouTube. For the large books there is some lag e.g. when browsing to certain chapters/pages, but it can handle it just about-I use a pdf compressor to compress the pdf books to 'lighten' them. The screen is nice, good viewing angles, fairly bright (I use it on 50%), and colours are fine. This is my first tablet so I have nothing to compare it against.
4) I used to root/install roms, mods, xposed etc... back when I used Sony Xperia devices (the development was super :good, but after that I got an LG phone which had poor development and since then I sort of gave up on it as it took up a lot of time (all that flashing :silly
So if your really into development this tab will probably let you down. Plus side is that it has little features like the display can stay on when your looking at the screen (e.g. when reading), dual window, double tap to wake, clip tray (makes copy and pasting a LOT easier), QuickMemo (useful for note taking-not that I use it, pen and paper all the way :victory and so on...
My advice is that if you can get it cheap then do so otherwise if possible pay a little extra and get a more powerful tab. Down to you in the end...
Thank you very very much.. I now know everything I need about it
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Hi guys! anyone playing Vainglory using this tablet? how's the experience. I'm planning to buy this tablet for gaming purpose specially on Vainglory game. Can this tablet handle HD/Intensive games?
No, I wouldn't recommend this tablet for gaming, especially high end games. It is a mid range tab, I have never tried any intensive games but can say that it just about runs temple run, crossy road etc... Anything more would be laggy. It is a great tab for everyday usage but not for heavy gaming. Also I suggest you go for something newer, as this is likely reached end of life.
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Can someone please answer me?
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I have the v410, but i know that theres a v400 tool to downgrade the firmware to the original 4.4.2 so that you can boot bump'd images (Such as TWRP Recovery...) I'll give you the links ... h t t p://aiomobilestuff.com/lg-g-pad-7-v400-stock-firmware-flashing/ (delete the spaces in http)
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I have the v410, but i know that theres a v400 tool to downgrade the firmware to the original 4.4.2 so that you can boot bump'd images (Such as TWRP Recovery...) I'll give you the links ... h t t p://aiomobilestuff.com/lg-g-pad-7-v400-stock-firmware-flashing/ (delete the spaces in http)
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You're basically on about LG Flash Tool 2014 don't you? It's not for V400 only, it's for most LG Devices.
LG G3
Adam Myczkowski said:
You're basically on about LG Flash Tool 2014 don't you? It's not for V400 only, it's for most LG Devices.
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Yea... i used it with my g3