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Here is a video of my g1. boot is slow as it is first boot. The first boot screen is Gucci and the next is FBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82HBpTu8TMk

The 1st comment is hilarious. And true.
-bZj

I used to own a Toyota Celica, and belonged to a forum where everyone owned one. It was a fantastic handling car when stock, and could be made even tighter through minor suspension mods. I remember when a member of the forum replaced his suspension with hydraulics and airbags. We ragged on him because he turned a fun car into a turd.
This is frighteningly similar to that situation.

You will not believe that it is the first boot after flashing the update and my sd already had 300 apps installed. So in 3 mins it installed all 300 apps booted and for me i think its really faster than stock

charnsingh_online said:
You will not believe that it is the first boot after flashing the update and my sd already had 300 apps installed. So in 3 mins it installed all 300 apps booted and for me i think its really faster than stock
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I believe that it is a first boot, but I know it isn't faster than stock. I skipped past the long boot, and another minute or so in to give it time to populate all the apps in your drawer.. And even then it was sluggish and unresponsive for you.
Look, I'm not knocking you for your choice in ROM - Hero does look pretty fancy. But don't pretend it's quick - that really isn't.

the price is not that bad, for a device that's show to boot, it could be used as a guinnea pig phone for all your experimenting

Saiboogu said:
I believe that it is a first boot, but I know it isn't faster than stock. I skipped past the long boot, and another minute or so in to give it time to populate all the apps in your drawer.. And even then it was sluggish and unresponsive for you.
Look, I'm not knocking you for your choice in ROM - Hero does look pretty fancy. But don't pretend it's quick - that really isn't.
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It runs as fast as stock. It was unresponsive coz my hands were not that clean and i wan not able to touch the areas

Video of my G1 running Hero

SMOOTHLY. I figured instead of posting the video link to individual threads, I would just create a new one. The video quality SUCKS, as it was recorded from my other G1, but you get the idea. I hope to have a better quality one up later or tomorrow. I am running 2.7.4, with a 64 mg swap partition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLZOhUA3R0

Breakthecycle2 said:
SMOOTHLY. I figured instead of posting the video link to individual threads, I would just create a new one. The video quality SUCKS, as it was recorded from my other G1, but you get the idea. I hope to have a better quality one up later or tomorrow. I am running 2.7.4, with a 64 megs swap partition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLZOhUA3R0
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Very nice! Seems almost identical to my install of 2.7.4 with a 32 mb swap partition but I just switched over to the latest JACMyTouchSki to test that out. I'll probably jump back over to 2.7.4 to check out the larger swap settings and see if I can see a speed increase.
Did you use a 500 megs ext2/3 partition and left the rest FAT32 or did you use something different?

DirectMatrix said:
Very nice! Seems almost identical to my install of 2.7.4 with a 32 mb swap partition but I just switched over to the latest JACMyTouchSki to test that out. I'll probably jump back over to 2.7.4 to check out the larger swap settings and see if I can see a speed increase.
Did you use a 500 megs ext2/3 partition and left the rest FAT32 or did you use something different?
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Fat32 partition was left in tact. I also am running an ext3 of 500mgs.

Does it run that fast after it's been left on for a few hours? I mean, I leave mine on all day, and JacHero 2.2.3 (swapper app, no ext) got really slow by the end of the day.

AdrianK said:
Does it run that fast after it's been left on for a few hours? I mean, I leave mine on all day, and JacHero 2.2.3 (swapper app, no ext) got really slow by the end of the day.
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My awake time is now 34 hours and xx minutes.

Breakthecycle2 said:
My awake time is now 34 hours and xx minutes.
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When that video was shot? Wow....
The only thing that bugs me is TouchFlo taking a minute to reload after using the browser and listening to music, but hey I guess we should be thankful we have any kind of port

AdrianK said:
When that video was shot? Wow....
The only thing that bugs me is TouchFlo taking a minute to reload after using the browser and listening to music, but hey I guess we should be thankful we have any kind of port
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I shot it two days ago. I never shut my phone off for whatever reason. The browser is my only issue as it takes while to load.

Breakthecycle2 said:
I shot it two days ago. I never shut my phone off for whatever reason. The browser is my only issue as it takes while to load.
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Oh well, I could just push the android browser apk, I don't really like the hero one anyway The lack of a status bar is incredibly annoying...

AdrianK said:
Oh well, I could just push the android browser apk, I don't really like the hero one anyway The lack of a status bar is incredibly annoying...
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Hmmm...but do you still have flash?

Breakthecycle2 said:
Hmmm...but do you still have flash?
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I wouldn't have thought so, but it was useless anyway imo. All it was good for was loading ads, which made navigation slower. Also when clicking a link to a YouTube video it would try to watch it in flash (which failed) rather than the video player. I think I can sacrifice the sexy visual bookmarks for a huge performance boost.

Which my gay stock card would partition.

BigWorldJust said:
Which my gay stock card would partition.
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Mine doesn't either Just ordered an 8GB Class 6 Tanscend for Hero, can't wait. Btw, would you mind making that sentence a little more PC? :<

Root Review - 4 days of use

I am very pleased having rooted my phone. Big thanks to the devs!
The whole process took me about 30 minutes. But about 1 hour or so of reading time and downloading the right files. All i can say is READ CAREFULLY!
But i have noticed great performance from my phone. I removed all of the stock packages except for mediascape (lets face it guys... its not as bad as people say it is)
Camera has dramatically improved in speed. I use the camera often so I highly recommend anyone who uses it alot to root your phone.
Running co-pilot live for about 2 hours today. Music played for atleast 3 hours. Approx. 70 minutes of talk time. Atleast 2 hour of emails ane browsing the web. Installed a few apps from the app store (BTW google maps update today gives google navigation for canada ) Overall speed on the entire phone seems fantasic. VERY snappy.
I look forward to custom roms.

gypsydigi said:
I am very pleased having rooted my phone. Big thanks to the devs!
The whole process took me about 30 minutes. But about 1 hour or so of reading time and downloading the right files. All i can say is READ CAREFULLY!
But i have noticed great performance from my phone. I removed all of the stock packages except for mediascape (lets face it guys... its not as bad as people say it is)
Camera has dramatically improved in speed. I use the camera often so I highly recommend anyone who uses it alot to root your phone.
Running co-pilot live for about 2 hours today. Music played for atleast 3 hours. Approx. 70 minutes of talk time. Atleast 2 hour of emails ane browsing the web. Installed a few apps from the app store (BTW google maps update today gives google navigation for canada ) Overall speed on the entire phone seems fantasic. VERY snappy.
I look forward to custom roms.
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Every single improvement you noticed is due to the firmware upgrade and not the rooting. Rooting alone doesn't make any difference!

I'm sure rooting and removing alot if the stock apps makes some difference lol
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

Could anyone recomment a ROM with my "needs"?

Hello everyone and greetings from Denmark
Ok, I´ve asked in the german pocketpc.ch forum, and noone could help me, so I´ll try here (maybe someone can help me out here)
My "needs" for Android NAND rom:
- no Sense!
- fast
- stable
- the new Camera (not the one with focus on the outside)(the one with all those fiddly settings ^.^)
- should last at least 8 houres at heavy use (48 houres in standby/minimal usesage
I´ve tried a lot of roms through the last days, but none of them fitted my needs.
The one which come closest was: MarkinuX HD Extra Clean V1.71
But that one startet lagging after af few days =(
And I dont want to update my rom every few days, I need a rom which can run without performance issues, lagging and "need for update" for at least half a year
I´m desperate, and I hope some of you can help me =)
Thx and good night
BeeJay

Ultimate droid? From my past experiences, it was one of the best if not, best non sense rom for me.
I have no idea what camera you are referring to, but it probably has the stock android camera.
If you are referring to a camera which takes pictures that fill up the screen, has features such as vignette, depth of field, posterize, vintage, etc, you may be referring to a sense camera app. The sense camera app cannot be ported to a non sense build.
Just to note, no android build for us can last 8 hours on heavy use, none.
I don't think you can get a rom with virtually no issues around here, but all of them are good enough for daily use.

MarkinuX HD Extra Clean V1.71 had an uptime of 75 houres at minimum use (about 2 houres of "not standby", all the time 3G, pushmail 30 minutes, some facebook checks a day, about 20 minutes of gaming)
That was really impressive!
Yes, I think I mean the Sense Cam =/ Too bad, but nothing essential
I dont want the "old" Andoid cam, where the focus is set on the outer side of the (my Droid hat that one, sucked like hell)
After an update it had focus in the mid
Would you mind to post a link to the rom u recommended?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958953
There's a link to it. however don't be jumping onto it just yet. I haven't used non sense builds in a while so there might be a better non sense build. Just wait for people to reply if you can.

You could try a Cyanogen Mod ROM and maybe use a camera app like 'Camera360' to take pictures? Doubt you'll get that long out of the battery though.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899

try typhoon cm7

ReVoZ said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
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Ive tried this a few weeks ago.
Looked nice, but I had serious problems with some apps with the 167dpi of the display, so I quit this one again.
Thx anyway =)

BeeJayFL said:
Ive tried this a few weeks ago.
Looked nice, but I had serious problems with some apps with the 167dpi of the display, so I quit this one again.
Thx anyway =)
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You can always change the dpi...

BeeJayFL said:
Ive tried this a few weeks ago.
Looked nice, but I had serious problems with some apps with the 167dpi of the display, so I quit this one again.
Thx anyway =)
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use lcddensity app from market to change the dpi (assuming u have root)

Jaws miui 8thfeb cwm.
It's the business. Will fulfill all you needs.
Good luck.

Garrylufc said:
Jaws miui 8thfeb cwm.
It's the business. Will fulfill all you needs.
Good luck.
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Agree...theres a cpl different miui builds.
2.15 radio
2.2miui stock via cwm

Garrylufc said:
Jaws miui 8thfeb cwm.
It's the business. Will fulfill all you needs.
Good luck.
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Dont like that one, just tried

Miui Os incredible
BeeJayFL said:
Dont like that one, just tried
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There are 3 or 4 others. Just clean cache dalvik too and update any miui on another.
The standout features are,
1 Pulldown bar has a data toggle that actually works.
2 The best network usage monitor I have ever seen.
3 Its small, only 70 to 80 Meg update.
4 You can customize anything including fonts and all icons.
5 Its own built in music player downloads song lyrics which are played on screen as you listen.
6 Has its own legal market with apps we never see.
7 Has its own Dev site.
8 You can have as many screens as you want(12 for me) and no performance issues.
9 Text appear in a jump out box for quick reply.
There are many more standout features making miui the is of choice.
Good luck again.

Garrylufc said:
There are many more standout features making miui the is of choice.
Good luck again.
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Exept for the unusable Android 2.0 camera with the focus on the outer side of the picture, wich makes it unusable for me!
While i didnt mention that awful fake iPhone look (looks like some 80 bucks www.lightinthebox.com fake)
And no german version... but the camera and iPhone look are the biggest issues

BeeJayFL said:
Exept for the unusable Android 2.0 camera with the focus on the outer side of the picture, wich makes it unusable for me!
While i didnt mention that awful fake iPhone look (looks like some 80 bucks www.lightinthebox.com fake)
And no german version... but the camera and iPhone look are the biggest issues
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There are 2 cameras on most miui builds. I've never had or want an i phone so I don't even know what one looks like. Change the icons to Android.
If its not for you then good luck with finding what you want(hd2one is good)
Trying to help a fellow XDA user. Be more grateful.

Garrylufc said:
There are 2 cameras on most miui builds. I've never had or want an i phone so I don't even know what one looks like. Change the icons to Android.
If its not for you then good luck with finding what you want(hd2one is good)
Trying to help a fellow XDA user. Be more grateful.
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iPhone looks 99% like MiUi, including menus, swiches, homescreens...
They could just have called it: iUI

Alright all you root-ers.....

I come to the Droid X planet from the planet WinMo..... On my previous planet I frollicked in the flash-cooked-rom playground til I was dizzy & had a too-much-cheese-cake belly ache....so I waited 45 minutes & frollicked some more.
I've read all about rooting here, I get it. I thought, before arriving, that I'd be rooting the very night I got the DX, but that night came & went ... and so did about a week now.
I'm loving this phone in stock mode. Its so much better & faster & slicker than my Omnia that I can't honestly find a reason to root.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the primary benefits to rooting are:
More thematic control
The ability to tether
marginally better battery life
the ability to overclock
So I'm all the way through a day at work w/ some calls, 10 to 20 texts, a couple of browser sessions, and 2 hours of mp3 play which lands me home w/ 40-50% battery left.
I just don't need to tether (although it'd be cool....and I'd prolly do it)
The ability to put a picture of my honeymoon in Kauai is all the Thematic control I need.
I'm already surfing while I listen to the PowerAmp MP3 player...how much faster does it need to be that I wanna overclock it? (I mean, I get how cool it is to actually do it & enjoy the observed performance bump, but......then I'm used to it being that fast)
Why do I wanna do this? I'm not trying to debate you, I believe you all like it better...so it IS better..but why might I like it better?
Talk to me like if you get ONE MORE root convert you'll get the toaster.
< used car salesman schtick >So....what's it gonna take for YOU to put ME in a rooted X today? < /used car salesman schtick >

It's all about what you like. If you are satisfied with stock so be it. I too was satisfied with stock, but the more I hung around these forums and read. The more curious I became. Rooting and unrooting is ridiculously easy. One click. I don't use tethering so I won't be able to convince you. However on battery life it is no contest. I used to be at 40 percent at noon with heavy usage. Once I rooted and changed roms (apex 1.4.1) I saw an enormous improvement. Now I am at 50 percent by 6 at night. I make a lot of calls during the day (25+) and I am checking email and what have you. It all comes down to how happy you are with what you have. I could be happy with stock again (I actually don't mind blur). Good luck with your decision, but I must warn you. Staying around these forums will not help you stay with stock for very long.
Edit: I wouldn't make a very good car salesman.

Blur-less ROM. 'nuff said.

See, now I'd read more "marginal" battery life improvement....your experience is a significant improvement.
And yes, hanging around here is how I got to be a flash-addicted on my previous planet....all to the good I might add, although MAN I could blow some hours on that.
I'll have to do some more reading on Blur and Blur-less.

i too came from the omnia. loved that phone. ive had my DX for a few weeks now, and aside from changing how it looks drastically i havent had the need to root or ROM the phone at all so far. although, the wifi tethering is the one reason i will end up rooting later this weekend, i use that a TON throughout my workday. i have been kind of avoiding it, but its something that has been a hassle since i changed phones. im more interested in hearing more about this "oneclick" root someone in here mentioned, ive read the sticky and probably everything else in this forum about rooting the DX and havent come across a one click method so far. so, apparently ive missed the best part?

Hanover....I found this:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/27/root-and-unroot-your-droid-x-with-1-click/
...but it looks like a bunch of X-ers standing around the edge of the pool daring each other to jump in & report back. I like the "Noobs Guide" here better.
Another Rooting benefit I forgot to mention was how COOL backing up the state of the phone would be. I'm guessing that's App and Settings.....from WinMo flashes I loved the Dir you could put on the SD full of the apps & settings so that if the ROM you were flashing included this particular feature, those things would be loaded & setup from the get-go....forget what it was called; flippin fabulous. This backup capability that apparently comes along w/ Rooting (which isn't available from stock? ) sounds even better.
Anybody wanna tell me what they hate about Blur?

This discussion has a few links to Blur definition and commentary.....I guess I "like" the Blur stuff, although apparently it's been diluted to a palatable level in the X's 2.2.1 Android release.
I think its creepy keepin my schtuff in teh "cloud"....until I want it reloaded to my phone & poof! Its done...then its more cool than creepy
So far I've gotten
WAY better battery management (not just a little better)
Gotta Tether
And to that list I'd add the backup ability about which I'll have to read more.
So come on Rooters.....I'm still wanting to hear the GREATEST thing for you in your new ROM that Stock never provided.....

I had the tilt before coming to the X and I loved that phone. The "one click" method I was talking about is called z4root. You don't technically click it. It is an .apk that you run. Then click either temporary or permanent root. If you click permanent root, the next time you run it unroot will appear. If you get DroidX bootstrap you can make a nandroid backup of your current phone. Everything will be saved except the data from your apps. You would have.to use titanium backup for that. Then you could experiment with roms and if you don't like them go back to your backup. Which would put you back at stock. You can also make more than one backup. Keep reading and before you know it you will break down.
Just to let you know a little more between the blur and blur"less" roms. Since blur is part of motorola when a dev takes the blur out of the rom some of the functionality of the phone is lost. I.e. no hdmi, camera is less than stellar and etc...now you can just get the blur .apk for the camera. But you still lose hdmi out.
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Thanks....I really like the camera....seems better than my Omnia's ....maybe I'm just on a honeymoon w/ the X
I'll have a few more laps in the pool here & then I'll giver a go. I mean, if I can fairly easily bop back to stock, then what's the cost? (well...besides the unlikely bricking).
So I guess I'll need to figure out which things are "Blur" and which things are "Android"....for instance:
can anybody tell me if thiese things remain in blurless ROMS?
The little red target that moves the cursor in text boxes? (love that)
the voice mic to talk in text in most text boxes?
syncing to/from my Gmail for contacts & calendar?
can I have "some" of the Motorola widgets of my choice? (or are they just bone cuz they "are" blur?)
Again, I can figure these things out first hand or read up, just checkin if one of you wanna chime in some more.
Great info. THanks for playin.

my reasons are quite simple for rooting my dx.addless apps/over clocking/"disabling"some factory installed apps/wifi tethering(not being stuck paying verison 20 bucks a month to do it).

Another reason to root and ROM is "New Phone Syndrome". I was excited like a kid in a candy store when I got my X. You couldn't pull my fingers from it. After 3 months I started to get bored. Don't get me wrong I still loved it but I needed new meat and waiting another 21 months for an upgrade didn't cut it. So if all those reasons to root and load a ROM like tethering, battery life, overclock, etc isn't good enough for you, then consider this...its like having a new phone when you load a ROM. Just my 2 cents.
DX CFU LIB 1.5

It almost sounds like you want to be convinced on something you kind of want to do because your bored,
About ROMs. Think of it like this...take two LCD TVs, one is 1080p one is 720P...if they are in separate rooms, you will never be able to tell the difference. Side by side, yes, you can see the difference, marginally. To me, all flashing a ROM does is change the transitional speed between screens, apps, etc., and remove the bloat ahead of time so you don't have to manually do it. That's my opinion. (disclaimer for the trolls ) And to be honest, that is where mainly all the praise comes from having a so called " fast ROM ", over stock. Motorola's stock transition times are slow (blur) and developers customize these settings to probably be 0. Other then that, I have had two brand new Droid X's side by side and there is no difference. Heck I have had four of them side by side and can't tell a difference in anything really besides transitioning in tasking.
How much time are people really spending transitioning between the app drawer and the home screen is beyond me lol but running any rom while in an app is never going to make a difference on a phone call, text, taking a picture etc.
If I could change these transition times myself (much like on a PC), I would love to run the stock ROM as it's 100% stable and smooth and I don't have to sacrifice a thing. If you want a different look once in a while like a black top bar or new icons, flash a theme for stock rom or an icon pack or, make your own like I do.
As far as rooting, yes, rooting for me is a must.
I root so I can have an exact backup to the state my phone was in before I start to dink around with it. I like to change my battery icons, make all my own icons and such so it helps when I flash or edit the wrong file. I like to be able to backup all my apps with a one click install after I go back to stock if need be. I like to be able to tether and to know I have that ability because times have arose when I needed to. And last but not least, have the ability to download and install non-market apps and content. There are websites out there that have plenty of apps and content not available the market that I use. Probably my biggest reason I root. Some apps require root so that will be your preference if you use those specific apps.
If you enjoy overclocking, that's another reason to root. The DX is not a PC though, I don't need to overclock to make a call and I am not playing Crysis on max resolution lol. If you are OCD about watching your benchmark scores go up and down, then overclock away!
Other then that, I have always praised that a stock, rooted Droid X with all it's bloatware removed is perfect in every way. The hardware on this awesome device is really all that you may want in a smart phone. It handles everything I throw at it and it's reliable for me. Overclocked or not, I can't tell the difference between 1Ghz and 1.3Ghz and that's on my phone alone.
Everything always comes down to preference. If you don't have a specific reason to root then don't. Unless you’re bored that is, lol.

turbo614 said:
my reasons are quite simple for rooting my dx.addless apps/over clocking/"disabling"some factory installed apps/wifi tethering(not being stuck paying verison 20 bucks a month to do it).
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Me too. Tried all the roms, all had some shortcommings. I am now back to stock, rooted, bloat removed, themed and loving it. Best batt life I have had.

Stock , rooted, bloat removed, theme-able, sounds like a dream come true.
I appreciate the insight.

HanoverPhist said:
i too came from the omnia. loved that phone. ive had my DX for a few weeks now, and aside from changing how it looks drastically i havent had the need to root or ROM the phone at all so far. although, the wifi tethering is the one reason i will end up rooting later this weekend, i use that a TON throughout my workday. i have been kind of avoiding it, but its something that has been a hassle since i changed phones. im more interested in hearing more about this "oneclick" root someone in here mentioned, ive read the sticky and probably everything else in this forum about rooting the DX and havent come across a one click method so far. so, apparently ive missed the best part?
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Z4 root! One click! just get the link to download the app if it's not in the market.